M1 Abrams Tank Tactics in Ukraine
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What happened to the Gadaffi vid?
(he uploaded it yesterday then it got removed after 43min)
@@williamforbes6291you gotta watch em while they're hot, boys....
I had to delete the Libya video because youtube basically censored that one so I'm going to reupload it within a week or two ! its one of my favorite episodes so im looking forward to posting it again soon@@williamforbes6291
Will y’all train them on MUD ??!!
two cappy videos in one day? And they're both well made and a proper length? You spoil us, Chris. Thank you for the hard work.
He uploaded a video on the fall of Libya yesterday morning which got demonetized so he was forced to take it down. He then uploaded a video on Israel 9 hours ago. Now he uploaded this one.
There was 3! He uploaded and deleted a full gadaffi vid I got to see it woop
Deleted 43 min after upload?
This guy is a machine!
This is the only channel that I actually pay for membership too. Been watching since channel had less than 250K and I’ve sent video to friends and family more times than i can count.pretty much everyone ive sent videos from here too has subscribed at minimum. Id love to have this job cause he does this the right way and news channels should watch his videos to relearn how to tell the truth to us all. Cappy, ur the man and keep up the great work!!!
The Abrams acoustic signature is generally lower than diesel powered tanks. The trick is that it sings tenor rather than bass, and higher frequencies attenuate more rapidly with distance.
Thanks for the explanation, it's really fascinating
Thanks!
But they are also easier to locate compared to lower frequencies.
Yes. Instead of 5-7 kilometers, it will be heard at 3-5. He is big and clumsy. And I saw several videos of a leopard being hit by artillery right on the move. Those. he was seen from a drone and was constantly being “led.” The tank did not stop for a second, drove onto the forest road and still received a shell directly on the roof. It's like being in the damn "world of tanks". Leo is much more mobile. I think that the main point of sending Abrams is to prepare for serious urban battles, where this tank will show its best side
Only if they are being sent with their tank urban survival kits that were introduced during second war of Iraq.
Well this video aged really poorly😂😂 Ukraine lost 4 Abrams in 5 days the first time they finally put them On the front lines
Americans always proud and hype when it talks about their weapons 😂, but they weapons only superior in hollywood movies 😂
I was around tanks for 26 years. Abrams are really quiet compared to other tanks. You can hear the tracks rattling before you would hear the engine.
This is exactly what i was thinking. Every account ive heard has abrams very quiet unless you are up close to them
Didn't it get the nickname "Whispering Death" death in the 80s because no one heard it coming compared to other tanks?
I had the same thought when I heard him say the Abrams was loud. I was infantry when I was in the Army but I had the opportunity to be near Abrams on numerous occasions. I recall the clankety-clank of the tracks being louder than the engine.
I was a member of a Marine Infantry Battalion. Every Marine infantrymen received flash cards of different tanks and armored vehicles. I made sure every Marine in my squad could identify with 100% accuracy from those cards. We did not want to shoot a Bradly or any other allied vehicle with our AT Missiles and rockets.
As a former Army tanker who sometimes trained with the Marines, your diligence in not blowing us up is appreciated.
How difficult was it to get your Marines to put down the crayons long enough to study those flash cards?
@rogerwood5228 the trick is to write them in crayon to keep the children focused. If you answer correct, you get to eat it
SMAW against a Bradley that's a bad day ,SMAW against an Abrams , touch up the paint scuff and good to go
Did those flashcards come standard with pop up pictures and crayon writing?
You know its deadly serious when Chris does double upload in 9 hours
you look like the dude who always comment on the friendly puma hissing the cameraman🙀
That's around the service time of the M1 from F to R (Idiling) Now really who am I kidding we just try to prepare our bloody arse that these tanks will likely be captured or destroyed by the Russians in the security zone like they are not there. The lad's knowledge about T series tanks is a wee bit questionable He also lied about the Challenger and Leopard losses
13 Leopard and 2 Challager confirmed, 56 Bradley and a dozen armoured boxes dubbed as APC Cringe
I hope he is okay, he usually makes funny faces when taking about death and mass destruction
@@whitefalcon630 Where are you finding your sources for the tank losses? The most I can find is around 8 losses on the Leopard max outside of Arab news sources which just are biased as all hell, and the most they got to was 10.
its a long way from the wt comment section.
It has been an absolute pleasure seeing this channel grow from memeing, to still memeing, but also putting out the highest tier of analytical/informative content.
The loudness of an Abrams is interesting. I read an article some time ago that while close up the Abrams is louder, it puts off higher frequency sounds than a diesel engine. Those frequencies don't travel as far, so from a distance the Abrams is very hard to hear, while the lower frequency sounds of a rumbling diesel are much easier to hear even from far away.
I've heard that the Abrams is basically silent once you get a little bit away from it
What is the point of this silence if the entire battlefield is visible from the sky?
@@lordlol3787 It's not as if every soldier has a drone ready to drop munitions able to disable a tank in their pockets. Soldiers in the field still rely on their senses too.
@@Odin029 Look at the war in Ukraine, almost every unit or group has its own drone
As a former Army mechanic I can firm the bit about Americans replacing parts is true. Mechanics are basically finding the problem, removing the part, and putting a new part on. With that said, removing an engine is always a struggle. It's never easy to replace an engine because you always need a crane and like 5 people make sure everything is going correctly. I wished the engines had a rail system that would make it easier to just slide out of the engine bay.
I have seen here on YT, 4 men change engine on Leopards in 35 min.
@@dragononwall8733 The M1 and Leopard engines differ in layout, although they have the same power. So your 35 minutes to replace the Leopard engine is a few hours for the M1
As Canada Maint, we could do a Leo1 in 20 +min with a 2 man team, couple extra made it go easier. I've been told by the guys still in the Leo 2 is comparable.
Changing the pack was easy. Changing the transmission was not.
My question is, why does Ukraine get free tanks, but service members gotta pay for their meals
Cap, a correction. Abrams is *louder* close up, but at a distance it's much quieter than any diesel engined tank.
The reason for this is due to how sound attenuates over distance. Low frequencies (diesels) will travel much further at a higher sustained volume over ambient than higher frequencies will.
Another correction is that while yes, the Challenger 2 is also a 120mm, because it carries a rifled main gun, it is not compatible with NATO standard 120mm projectiles. Challenger 2 uses multi-piece ammunition with the munition and charges inserted seperately.
And it's especially noticeable at night.
Doesnt the Challenger 2 also have version of it where it uses a 120mm smoothbore gun?
@iplaygames2q it was planned to in the Challenger 3 upgrade, but lol England and budget cuts
Also remember that we probably sent the Abraham's tank with the export package. This means the tank has no Chabum Armour. It's steel.
@@bass305-HCCA Thats not true. The export version has composite armor. The only difference is that it doesn't have depleted uranium inserts, nor does it come with an expensive graphite coating on that depleted uranium armor.
But the export version still contains NERA (non explosive reactive armor) composite armor. So it will have comparable resistance to HEAT warheads.
They'll just be weaker against newer APFSDS munitions. Which is less of a concern at this phase of the conflict. As russia had depleted a lot of its newer armor piercing rounds. And they are now deploying older ammunition and older tanks.
At this phase in the conflict, the export version will be more than sufficient.
I think the final commentary over the skies over Ukraine is an understatement.
There is no contest, Russia dominates the airspace.
The frequency in which you manage to produce new videos is admirable!! Thank you, sir! (and your team, probably?)
The Challenger 2 tank doesn't use the same ammo at all. Although it is a 120mm gun, it is rifled.
yea think he overlooked that its not the chally 3 in use yet
It makes a lot of sense for everyone involved to send older tanks already in Europe. The US gets to get rid of old stock to replace with the Abrams X without having to decommission them. Ukraine gets a bunch of refurbished tanks quickly that are already in Europe.
No it doesn't, you don't need to decom them and if we decide to we get back a ton of resources for recycling.
They are useful to have around in case of an invasion, and if you are that naïve to think we can't be invaded just look at our border now ffs. Even China has 20k troops in Canada, which with their BS probably means 20k with another 80k illegal.
We could have also sold them to another country for some profit instead of pissing away money sending them to a graveyard.
They already lost a ton of the tanks and equipment we sent with their insistence on running into meat grinders.
Win win situation. Please send more!!!
Slava 🇹🇼
implying Abrams X will ever be mass produced
I don’t get why idiots keep saying the US military will produce Abrams X. It’s a technology demonstrator. It is not meant to be the next upgrade to the Abrams and was only meant to show off what tech could be used to upgrade the Abrams.
I don't have much to give, but you have been absolutely pumping these out and they are so well done, well made, and well researched, you deserve more than just my views. Thanks Cappy, hooah.
Many hooahs to you and yours
That's a very helpful video supplying lots of new information. Thank you very much.
Cappy, the rate and quality of your content is absolutely phenomenal. This channel continues to go from strength to strength - your ongoing success is well deserved! Keep up the great work.
Yeah total propaganda. Show us how bad the Ukrainians are losing. They must fight harder, most of our congress and Senators have their money hidden there. Democrats elected a man who has never shown compassion for us. Far as I'm condrned only thing Joe did was bringing in 7 mil and counting into the labor force.. Which will effectively end the progressives plan to live off tax payers and gave them the biggest screw job. Who will vote again. That magic word that gets them to do and believe every thing the Dems want. Dare I say it. 😂😂😂😂😂😂 smart guys voted against their best intrest.
@@MasterBlasterSrnailed it
@@MasterBlasterSr I mean you got to control the narrative.
What narrative?
@@MasterBlasterSrit's a think tank, not CIA.
Turbine engine in Abrams we'll have them glowing bright for KA52 thermals and whirlwind.
Excellent video, as per usual. I appreciate the work and effort that you put into the videos.
Compassion and happiness are not a sign of weakness but a sign of strength.
You gotta admit the Abrams is a beautiful tank.
French Leclerc: Please hold our 🥖
9:26 "If what you looking at is another Abrams Tank: Showes Abrams
A Leopard tank: Shows T- sires
A Soviet T-sires: Showes Leopard 2
You do a fantastic job. Your research and presentation is outstanding. Even someone without a military background like me can gain a huge amount of knowledge from your videos. Thank you.
Except his information is more than 30 years out of date. Basically its BS.
It's not like they didn't get Challenger 2, Leopard 2, M-55Ss and are not getting the Leopard 1s that all require 4 man crews. Also T-62s and T-55s on Russian side have four man crews.
Sorry Cappy, but one of the reasons it took so long to get them there, was they had to be converted to the A1 'Export' model. That means the DU armor had to be taken out. ( It's an Export controlled item; U.S M1's are the only one's with it).
Doesn’t the USA have thousands of pre-1988 (the year when DU armor was introduced) M1A1 Abrams? The M1A1 upgrade was introduced in 1985. So it had been in production for 3 years before DU armor was introduced.
@@kurousagi8155 Yep, plus all of the USMC A1's after they got rid of them. Alot of the early A1's where converted to baseline A2's. If there are any remaining pre DU A1's left , those are the oldest hulls still in storage. Probably be cheaper to scrap them; refurbing them would take too much time and money.
@@kurousagi8155I think most of the ones in storage got the DU upgrade in the 90s, but there are certainly some without it.
@@gregdomenico1891 how well can you scrap old tanks for parts? I imagine a direct improvement/new model could use many of the olds' parts, but apart from that, they're all specialised items, right? so selling them on the civ market is very hard. and decommissioning has a price too
@@sztallone415 With 40 year old hulls? Not much will still be good, I'm afraid. Maybe the engine and some internals. Gaskets, most of the wiring harness are all shot by now. And your right: Demiling them won't be cheap. Knowing the Army, they will end up as Range targets. Now if the hull is still good, that can be stripped and re-used; But, there are newer hulls in storage that would be Up graded first, if they are really needed. And the reason we have so many in storage, is because Congress kept ordering Tanks to keep the Plant open. The Army actually told them that they didn't need them(at the time).
That AT mine and Lancet combination is quite terrifying on the mentality of an armoured crew. Imagine knowing that you've just thrown a track, typically a fixable problem, but you simply don't know if there's loitering munitions waiting.
Will be interesting to see how armoured vehicles are going to deal with these loitering munitions in the future.
With plasma beams
Google the Israeli system by Rafael called Trophy. It was designed to shoots down anti tank missiles and will also work on loitering weapons like drones.
@@Sophie-and-Ken You seriously should keep up with reality more. The so called Trophy didn't helped Merkava that was recently obliterated by 200$ drone. That's just how it is.
@@Sophie-and-Ken its kind of failing in Israel now. Either the crew dont turn it on or its not flagging targets based on their angle of approach as threats
It's not a question of if it will happen
16:29 Slight caveat: the Challenger doesn't and can't use the same 120mm rounds as the Abrams and the Leopard because it has a different gun, an L30 from Royal Ordnance as opposed to the Rheinmetall Rh-120/M256. The L30 uses separate charges and projectiles whereas the the Rheinmetall gun uses cased cartridges.
Thank you, I knew he made a mistake and I only found your comment that confirms it. 🙏💪👍
Interesting. Isn’t that in violation of NATO standardization though?
@@alex434343from what I can find, technically not. STANAG 4385 only covers _smoothbore_ 120mm tank guns. The L30 is rifled and is likely not subject to STANAG 4385.
Is this changing soon? I seem to remember hearing that the Nritish are phasing out their rifled 120s in favor of smoothbore 120s due to the perceived (or exspected) obsolescence of HESH rounds.
2 vids in one day . Thanks, Chris. We know you are working hard .
well actually🤓 abram engine noise is louder than diesel at close range but is actuallly quiter from farther away than a diesel engine. a bit more Heat signature doesnt really matter when diesel engine run over 300 degree hot
Basically a big slow moving target that any modern Russian ATGM will destroy, or a Lancet will land on top off.
"They can't hear us if we blow 'em up" might be my favorite line ever 😂🤣💥
Great info and the research is insane. Thanks!
You are really cranking out those videos this weekend. And 20+ minute ones, not just some short ones.
Damn, Cappy is absolutely killing it with these back to back uploads. Great work as always 👍
Couldn't wait to see your coverage on this
So happy for this veteran and his incredible, informative channel.
I was a M1A1 crewman in Iraq in 2003 and I'm not really sure how 31 tanks are going to be very helpful. Only 2/3 of them will prolly be battle ready most of the time considering how often they break. When I was at NTC our tank crew got an award cuz we were the only tank that managed to be in every battle in the whole brigade and that was just a 45 day training exercise. Tanks crews are normally only allowed to do 10 level maintenance and that is tank crews in the US Army that have a lot of experience on the vehicles. I knew how to do a lot of 30 level maintenance on the tanks(the only reason my commander wanted me to reenlist lol) but that saved the tanks I was on from missing multiple battles during my enlistment and was able to do "services" that normally took a whole tank crew a week by myself in two or three days cuz I only needed the maintenance section to work on the engine. The whole time I was stationed at fort riley there was only one time that our tank was completely 100% with no issues on our M88 form and we were also the only tank I knew of in the battalion that achieved that(it wud have lasted longer but a ripped drivers headrest on was the m88 for months b4 we got it). 31 tanks are not even 2 full companies and I feel like the US wants to force Russia to give up more than they want Ukraine to actually win cuz they are scared of Russia using nukes but I wish they wud just give Ukraine 1000 tomahawk missiles and this war wud be over in a month because Russia wud have to decide to withdraw or use nukes and even tho they claim they are willing to use them I'm sure if they do the rest of the world wud be a lot more serious about ending the war than they are now.
Agreed.
Russia is going to be targeting the M1A1 before they ever hit the front lines for propaganda points. Unless Ukraine ferries them forward under the protection of patriot missiles, they might not make it into battle. As we have seen, there isn't a tank out there with proper protection from the sky above.
Ukraine is essentially a mini NATO at the moment. The 31 Abrams is working along side British and German tank designs. The M1's might be held back in the main battles acting as spotter for the other tanks or working alongside them taking out threats they see and allowing the other tanks to hunt other targets.
31 tanks is 31 more tanks than Ukraine has at the ready currently. That's how they will be helpful. People who are defending their homes ALWAYS find a way to make the best use of what they have.
The 31 tanks allows the Ukrainians to work out their maintenance and logistics hands on, after that is figured out and put in place, you can ship the tanks in bulk.
US personnel are notoriously restricted in what they are allowed to do. In Sweden, it's more a recommendation, don't touch unless you know what you are doing.. but if there's someone around with proper skills from other areas go right ahead.
I am not a military expert, but I don't think 31 tanks would be enough and they alone would not make a difference. Without proper air support, the tanks would be vulnerable targets to Russian drones and attack aircraft.
Thanks for the in depth reporting on the Abrams as well as it's modular repair system. Really useful reporting. 31 is silly and a pretend effort but having this background is good. We did see more of a direct engagement from tanks around the time of the Robotyne counteroffensive. Reports showed AFU tanks at a standoff distance, acting somewhat successfully in more of a sniper role, from the northeast quadrant of the battle area. Given the mines this makes sense. Obviously, the handful of Abrams with their longer range accuracy would be useful in this kind of role.
I agree. The Abrams may be a poor fit for front line in Ukraine. But I think the reason the US government was OK with sending them is because thy won't be the offensive solution, but a more defensive tool which will free up many more lighter armored vehicles for the faster combined arms offensives while the M1a1 plays safety to pick off any passes up the middle.
T&P crushing it. Thanks Cappy, the hard work of you and your team is obvious. 🤘
One note: Almost all Russian tanks seen in Ukraine do have laser rangefinders and all T-72s, T-80s, and T-90s seen have these systems.
Their also confirmed images of old model bring deployed with thermal aswell as a full utilization throguhtout the armor forces, honestly i like his presentation but leave the infantryman to infantry and the armor to tankers
@@123456qwful Most Russian tanks do not have thermals. Only ones I've seen are the ones brought up to modern standards (T-72B3?) and those are NOT the majority.
@@ryanj610 which are the majority then?
@@ryanj610T-72B3, T-80U, and T-80BVM along with all T-90 models have thermals. They don’t really use the old T-72A’s and B’s as much as they did at the start of the war…majority of Russian tanks on the field rn probably have thermals
@@ryanj610 The good old "trust me" me source.
The CITV is great, but it can be hard to use when on the offensive. Most TCs want to look around, even if just with the hatch at open-protected posture. The CITV requires the TC to sit down inside the turret, making it harder to keep your situational awareness. Additionally, while the hull is heading one direction, the turret is constantly slewing left and right. Add in the CITV turning independently of both hull and turret, and before you know it, the TC is looking behind the tank, rather than offset from the turret's orientation.
One of the big benefits of the -A1 model vs the A2, is that mechanics (and crew) can actually fix things, versus just swapping 'Line Replaceable Units' or LRUs. From a cost perspective, a newer -A2 has 3x thermal sites - Gunner's TIS, CITV and the .50 cal RWS. An M1A1 only has 1. An M1A1 also holds 2 fewer rounds - not a game-changer, but when you only have 40, 2 extra is apppreciated. Ukrainians will have to learn about loader responsibilities, as they have no reference for this job. As air guard, it has some real value in a drone-filled world. Finally, as some have mentioned, the noise of an M1 is fairly unique, due to the higher pitch turbine whine. It often isn't that noticeable when at lower RPMs (not accelerating).
Also, I don't think DU armor will go to Ukraine. No export M1s (including Australia's) have this. This would be a significant break from precedence.
DU is used as a backer for the composite matrix. It's always a "plus" (other than weight). It will probably be replaced with tungsten; and if not that, just steel.
M1 Abrams with yellow tape gave off heavy GDI vibe ngl
A nod to your comment.
M1 Abrams MBT Repair Schedlue.
1. Look at tank
2. Have a smoke
3. Photograph tank for social media profile.
4. Call Tech Support
5. Listen to music
6. Engage with Auto Callhandler.
7. Swear at Auto Callhandler
8. Have a smoke
9. Listen to music
10. Talk to human operator
11. Repeat everything you already told ACH
12. Listen to more music
13. Have a smoke
14. Talk to new operator and repeat Step 11.
15. Swear at operator
16. Get cut off
17. Have a smoke
18. Read Manual
19. Fix it yourself
I was a E5 gunner on a M1A1 tank in second armored division from 90to 94ish. Returned as prior service in 2003 in the same capacity except I had to accept a corporal, rank due to the time away, and return to Iraq with the 1st cavalry division. that being said, I agree and loved everything you said, but I take great exception to what you said about the noise level an Abrams tank makes. It is a high-pitched whine when starting the turbine which takes probably less than 20 seconds , and after that, it is a sound signature that does not travel,far at all. I am not schooled or have a PhD in Phonetics or whatever you would call it. But I Will tell you from experience, A LOT of experience but I can tell you that an Abrams turbine engine is far less discernible on the field at distance than a diesel engine.
The British Challenger II is equipped with an L30 120mm rifled tank gun ... Completely different than the smooth bore Leopard II and the M1A2
I thought the nickname for Abrams back in the day is Whispering Death due to how quiet the AGT1500 is compared to diesel engine like MTU MB 873?
Technically the gine is quiter in pure decibels. But it is in higher frequencies than the low rumble of heavy diesel engines and such, which comes with 2 drawbacks:
Higher frequencies are usualy easier to locate/ find for humans.
They also carry better over longer distances, dropping of much less than the lower frequencies.
@@reappermen , you're wrong about that last assertion. Low freqs carry farther in air than high freqs, the natural result of having a longer wavelength.
This also holds true in water which is how whales can communicate with each other over Hundreds of kilometers. The freq range large whales can talk in is infrasound, far below the range of human hearing.
@@reappermen Easier to hear up close yeah but higher frequencies dont travel as far as lower frequencies
Lancet 😂
Who think in a couple of years we could have lots of wars going on? I kinda do
There already are. No one respects America anymore, now that it is basically Mexico. I mean... Do you think China or Russia gives a shit about Mexico? Why would they care about America after all the Americans have been replaced by Mexicans?
Already are, some of them we just don’t hear about much. Most Americans don’t even know about the modern French wars in North Africa. Or pretty much any war in sub Saharan Africa.
Biden is a warmonger and Trump was the first president in 40 years to not start a new conflict so it’s not surprising.
I've been expecting it for 3 years now.
Syria, Yemen, Mali, etc.
The M1 A1 'Ese' version.. South California edition ... bling, hydrolics, spinning rims and fuzzy dice!
Thank you and have a great week.
We will also send Stacey Abrams… she is built like a Tank and is a real killer.
Excuse me sir that constitutes a war crime
Please send her somewhere, lol.
You think those Abrams turbines are resource hogs, wait til you gotta feed THAT.
Thanks for bringing back your good ol’ spare parts army humor to this video in just the appropriate places. Well done.
3:13 can we take a moment to appreciate the 91A specialist that marked the main gun on that Abrames. Chef kiss.
Best journalist out there. Dude does in depth reports with FACTS and he let's US make our own mind up on the news that is reported. Great video Cappy
Agreed!
Two basic errors in this video I noticed so far:
1) Many Russian tanks have no laser rangefinder (that's false, it is not WW2).
2) Challengers and Leopards share same ammunition (false, because the Challenger has a unique rifled gun which requires non-standard ammo).
The Challengers sent have riffled barrels. There is also a smooth bore gun available that does use the same ammunition.
@@simonwatson2399Yes, but that upgrade is not in service yet.
3) Most Russian tanks have 2gen+ thermals and latest have CITV for commanders too (it ain't the 1990's anymore).
Another lie: “5 Leopards were destroyed..”
Leopards were killed by the dozens.
@@JohnSmith-gd6ej No proof of that in the ONYX database, which makes me believe the Leopards are quite effective, although obviously they are not a "wonder weapon".
Who said “ please don’t target them “ ? , 5k bonus on the head of each one for a Russian soldier , Russians rubbing there hands “ brucey big bonus 🤭”
What about the reality today ? Abram The game changer ? Nope only good in Holywood movies 😂
From what I’ve heard from former Abrams tankers was that the Abrams was loud, but only in the rear. Because it’s a jet engine that’s pushing the tank around, the sound is very directional, so it’s pretty quite from the front, even more quite than a diesel engine (I know, that’s hella surprising). But at the same time, it’s insanely loud from the rear, far louder than a diesel, and hotter as well. Just the nature of engines, what beautiful mechanisms they are.
Just came in here to say that while Abrams has a turbine engine, it is both more quiet and less visible to thermal cameras when compared to Soviet designed Diesel engine equipment.
Smashing it T&P ! Two top quality videos in 12 hours 💪🏼💪🏼
With all the documentation, spare parts and such it's a great vehicle to take a few hits and get repaired rapidly. Especially since crew survivalbility is a huge factor in this war, losing an experienced crew is worse than losing a vehicle. Heavy weight is an issue, so much that the military's already developing a smaller, more lightweight tank, but it's good enough for now. Not like the US can't send some engineering vehicles for bridge building or reinforcing the ground if need be as well.
Yeah, why are we sending taxpayer money to back an openly fascist regime?
this tank isnt built for drone atack
@@tomislavvaldec1not totally true. Yes, drones did not exist in the 80s when the tank was designed, but we have countermeasures like Trophy today. I would not not be surprised if Israel isn’t sending Ukraine anti RPG and drone countermeasures.
They also have thousands of them in storage that will never be used.
@@Sophie-and-KenIsrael isn't really supporting Ukraine. They are fence sitting because they need a good relationship with Russia to shape middle-east politics. They certainly aren't sending ukraine trophy systems
Correction: M1 abram is not louder than diesel tank, it’s higher pitch and dissipate quickly but more annoying for the crew and it runs cooler than diesel engines too, M1 has exhaust temperature of 500f and leopard 2 has 600f but this doesn’t matter, they all show up on thermal
While the Abrams is louder in Db, it is said that you can hear a diesel from way farther away. It has commonly stated that the Abrams' turbine sounds a lot like wind from a distance and not a 76 ton tank like Russian tanks
These sorts of logistical issues often make me wonder if it would be better to have a worse tank that is logistically easier to support.
No.. The true strength of any main battle tank or mechanized armor is their crews. Only tank crews turn inanimate tank into a winning machine.
The best tanks use well-established design principles to allow a crew to survive direct hits. Ukrainians LOVE the Bradley because it's very survivable relative to the Soviet APC's they used before.
To quote Stalin, 'Quantity has a Quality all of its Own'.
But, judging by the age of some of the Tanks Russia is bringing to the field now, their attrition rate must be damn high too.
@@CoffeeAndPaul I know that a good tank is, by definition, better than a bad tank, but if logistics become too much of an issue, it might be the choice between a bad tank and no tank. And if that is the case, and you still want to have a tank, then it might be useful to have such a logistics-minded tank.
@@tsubadaikhan6332 I have not seen any reports of old tanks being used in the actual fighting on the Russian side. There were plenty of old tanks moved to Ukraine, reportedly to be used as stationary artillery on deeper defensive lines but so far Ukrainians were not able to breach the first one to get close to them. Only old tanks used in Ukraine were on the Ukrainian side, some of them were captured by Russians. As they have not much of use for that crap, Russians usually send them back to Ukrainian lines, obviously filled with several tons of ordnance and explosives.
34000 destroyed t34
Maybe thd Russians needed a better tank
I respect the grind!!! Godddamn
Great video again. Fantastic
I think the title is a bit off. The US did not gladly start sending tanks. It took months of begging from Ukraine for us to send a few tanks. The weight will also bog down in the months-long wet weather that is coming up. Good review of the logistics issues.
Ah yes because the Leopards and Challengers smoking on the fields were clearly not also designed to fight soviet T-model tanks as well 😂
IT was so nice of the Russians to provide several pictures of those two tanks from multiple angles and with different backgrounds. 😉
@@simonwatson2399🤡🤡
@@simonwatson2399look, everyone, even most anti Russian media admite 1 or 2 Challangers got smoked and 9 Leopards 2a6. And i mean unreparable. Its not like its some crazy Rus made up propaganda.
Im not sure what you think tanks (western or not) are, but they are not indestructable. Infact its not that hard to disable a tank. Destroy its track and it ain going nowhere. Let alone if it lands on a mine or two.
@@walkinondamoon1 yeah they leopards and challengers were destroyed but the west didn't call them indestructible like Russia calls theirs and the leopards and challengers did their job ad kept the crew alive to get in a new tank and keep fighting
@@jtl05 i think Russians only called t14 indestructable cause u are not gonna see one in this war lol. Not the rest. Latest T90 is a capable tank, but certainly isnt indestructable. In west the media (and some military analist) made fabels of both the leopard 2a6s (best tank ever game changer) and challanger 2s (never been destroyed in battle except friendly fire, indestructable chobam armour). Personaly i found the Challanger 2 one funny. Got to the front line and in matter of days got torched. Ofc military isnt stupid enough to say those thing but they did keep their trap shut when others said it ofc since it sells tanks and makes the troops driving them feel invincible. Abrams will burn aswell. Its inevetable.
All armour gets blown by mines or artillary.
It really doesnt matter what you have for armour if its even slightly comparable. Its what tactics you use to have least tank casualties while inflicting the most dmg.
31 tanks that seems very little to make any change on the whole operation, I believe the point to sent it was to trigger the Leopards release
No, these 31 are a precurser for many more to come. The focus now is setting local up logistics and training infrastructure.
@@frankderks1150LOL manufacturing a M1 not a hope they have not actually made just rebuilt in over the last 20years in the US, Ukraine will not get manufacturing of any sort in at least 3 years for other tanks. It is not making a car and even that takes years to build a manufacturing plant
@@colemichae Plenty are mothballed and can be made operational in a short amount of time. Nobody is suggesting anything about sending shiny new ones.
@@frankderks1150 the US will not be sending any more they don't want the media spotlight on them being destroyed by mines UAV's helicopters. The US is playing a media advertising plan, we have the best. The Bradley's they knew before were not perfect from Afghanistan, but the Abrams is their perfect MBT having 20 Destroyed will play havoc with military sales
Always amazed by American ingenuity, engineering, and logistics
The Uncle Rico reference just brings the whole thing home. Well done.
Ukraines Counter offensive from June 4 to Oct 4:
90,00 KIA (average age 40)
557 tanks lost
19,000 armored vehicles lost
380km2 or >1% territory reclaimed
Solution? Thirty one 80s M1 Abram tanks from the US but 'modernized'.👍
Sources: New York Times, Reuters, Business Insider, Ben Wallace fmr UK Minister of Defence
Finally some sanity This needed like a bit of bread
Except the numbers which you made up everything checks out. Love the 19 thousand armored vehicles lost or 90 thousand KiA meaning 300k wounded. Ukraine Army doesn’t exist at this point so why are russians retreating? 😂😂😂
@@kroolis77 "russians retreating" - where exactly?
"Ukraine Army doesn’t exist" - it can't conduct large scale operations like in June anymore.
@@RustedCroaker in Sevastopol or in Verbove. So where are Russians surging forward? Destroyed UA army shouldn’t be a problem according to your numbers. I’m curious about 19 thousand armoured vehicles lost since June as well as 400 thousand casualties since June. You muppets are predictable in your ignorance. That level of casualties would mean Ukraine would cease to even man the lines never mind hold them.
There is no unit in the world that will hold cohesion with 50% casualties. You kacaps should lie more realistically. Ukraine lost 557 tanks since the start of the war. Russia lost 3000.
@@kroolis77 From where?
I spent 10 years on the M1A1 and I guarantee, a majority of these tanks will be dead lined before they even see any action! Trying to keep up with maintenance and parts alone in the American Army was a bear, I can't imagine how it will fare in Ukraine without a steady flow of parts, fuel, and turboshaft, notwithstanding, the expertise needed to keep these beasts on the battlefield and not back at the UMCP!
They got smoked by russian drone
Thank you for the video.
It appears that this war in Ukraine is being kept on a western life support with the sole purpose of hardware testing and the testing appears to be in small batches that will likely not make a huge strategic impact on the war overall.
Super expensive, with a few major advantages over other tanks available to Ukraine. Meaning there will be few opportunities to make it worthwhile using these. That is areas where: targets are are beyond 1500m, tank is close to roads to reduce fuel usage, allow resup and repair, likely at night.
No point using these in most of the battles being fought, which are occuring at relatively close range, and being exposed to mine fields and trench systems.
Likely will be used as part of an attack or raid to hit targets from extreme range, enabling over vehicles to close with the Russians, then will either withdraw, or stay 1 or 2 klm behind the advancing units, and called as fire support.
Much like a big heavy expensive battleship, stays as far away as possible, hitting from extreme range, and surrounded by supporting weapons to keep it relatively safe. Because there are only 30 in country, of that only 10 or 15 will be available for use at any one time - repair and maintenance being done on 20 odd. And then there will be vehicles lost to enemy actions. 30 - really is not very many.
The over all effect on the war will be minor, but Ukraine needs everything that anyone will give it.
They may be more trouble than their worth. Ukraine is suffering from the same logistical nightmare the Germans had in WWII. The Germans had so many different types of equipment used from so many countries it was a nightmare keeping spare parts on hand for the right types. Ukraine doesn't have such a widespread theater of operations, but 31 tanks is a pittance in this conflict, not a game changer.
I agree that it's a nice gesture on the part of the US, however I am struggling to see the advantages.
@@jaggedskar3890 It's just the first package of tanks. More tanks will be sent. It went this way with every weapon system we've sent them so far.
With our peace talks this is just cruel using 70 year old tankers.
@@quartermaster1976 They aren't even remotely close to 70 years old.
First there is the Germans tank, destroyed! Then followed up by the British tank, destroyed. M1 Abrams? Not going to make much difference. Finally, the long anticipated M1 Abrams. We'll see some burning M1 Abrams.
Russia has been waiting for quite some time now. 😅😂🤣
Great videos! Keep up the good work, Ranger! 😃🇺🇸👍🏾
14:16 while the Abrams is louder strictly by decibels, this doesn't paint the whole picture. While it is *technically* louder, it's also at a much higher frequency (higher pitch) because it's a turbine engine. Higher frequency sounds dissipate much more quickly than lower ones. So while an Abrams may be louder up close, there is actually a distance where you could hear something like a Leopard 2 but wouldn't be able to hear an Abrams. So while it's *actually* louder, it's *effectively* quieter.
I remember seeing a video where, I think it was ISIS, shot a kornet at an Abrams on the side. Every single one of those inhuman beings started screaming Allahu Akbar!!... Until the turret of the M1 started turning towards them and you could hear the panic in their voices.
Iirc , it wasn't ISIS , it was Saudi Abrams vs Houthi rebels
If it was a kornet it definitely penitrated it since I have seen videos of kornet taking it out, they might have gotten lucky and nothing important was hit
@@rajaydon1893 depends if it hit the hull steel or the composite and DU armor in the turret side
@@jtl05 it doesn't matter what was in the side of the hull it won't stop a kornet
@@rajaydon1893 no it really does matter the turret composite of a M1A2 has about 2400mm of chemical protection where as the hull side has 100mm of steel
77 tons... yeah sure this thing can only fight in space where there is no gravity
lol what?
@mlgmounted9599 the Abrams is one of the heavies MBTs on planet Earth. It simply isn't a practical tank for Earth Gravity. On the Moon maybe but good luck trying to cross any damaged bridges with that much mass or even worse trying to get out of mud. Sad to see the West adopted German WW2 tank ideology. Your great metal beast doesn't do shit against a triple stacked AT mine or just a simple ditch and mud.
as a M1 tanker for 20 years, you hit the nail on the head. the M1 wont help Ukraine much at all, unless they use it in Defense .
The Abrams engine is loud up close, but because its a high frequency sound the sound waves lose energy quicker than a diesel engine. A diesel engine can be heard from farther away than than the gas turbine engine especially if there's obsticals in the way such as hills, trees, building, etc.
They will hear death coming.
Doesn't take 2 years to upgrade 31 to M1A2, it could take 2 years IF the deliveries were not to interrupt other considerations..Come on, be more precise
The Abrahams.
The symbol of America.
with its German Turbine technology,
Its German cannon,
Its British armor,
The list goes on.
A real patriotmobile indeed.
Good assessment
Amazing research ❤❤
The M1 Abrams success in Gulf war is due to air superiority. In Ukraine war, it will not be able to enjoy the same success until Ukraine air superiority.
*unless not until
@@MikeyisNinja*until, not unless
@@deathzombie1267 until implies Ukraine has a chance. Which they really don't. Especially with more wars breaking out and global interest shifting.
During the battle of 73 easting the aviation was grounded due to a sandstorm. Yet Ambrams + Bradley combo decisively rekt the elite Iraqi armor
Outranging their targets was also a big factor. Its success wasnt entirely due to just air
I would like to point out that while yes, the abrams turbine engine is louder up close, it is actually quieter at range because higher pitched noise is more easily attenuated by the terrain
Creasy fuel consumption on idle tough. Exactly the same then when driving. Cuts the operability time usually by 2/3 on average.
@@Flitalidapouet what does fuel consumption have to do with noise output?
@@jackmioI'd assume your vehicle regardless of tonnage or engine size would run louder when you're at your max speed 🤔
@@EastlakeRasta7 yes, that's obvious, but im confused about the point you are trying to make
@@jackmio your question is "what does fuel consumption have to do with noise output?"
And one would assume that my answer would be obvious but apparently not
Excellent information
Thanks for that Vid.
Some people raised a point that the Hamas's attack in Israel was possibly encouraged by Russia to draw attention and support away from Ukraine. Moscow talked to Tehran, then Tehran talked to Gaza. Sounds quite far fetched but I don't know. Just need China and North Korea to show some actions and we're on the brink of world war 3.
Seems far fetched. If you’ve followed the conflict in the region you’d know it wouldn’t take Russia to cause it.
Very far fetched. Not to mention i doubt most Western countries would help isreal doing their ethnic cleansing
That's exactly what I told my father. HAMAS literally had nothing to gain out of their murderous rampage in Israel, except the wrath of an enraged IDF. Putin must have prodded Tehran into prodding HAMAS to attack Israel to divert some supplies meant for Ukraine. And it has worked, with Biden shifting Patriot missiles into Israel.
@@yaboyed5779Thry aren’t saying they caused it, though - rather, encouraged it to be the scope and ferocity it was. Probably provided munitions as well…
@@mduckernz I get that, but Russia can’t really afford to spare ammo rn given the ferocity of their own war in Ukraine.
There is no tank that is invincible. It is just a penetration and support Do not make it a mobile fortress
You make a lot of sense…knowing your past n quite funny too! Well done!
I love the fact you use War Thunder as certain video clips! The way you explain things in your video is top tier😮💨 thank you for your super duper assume content
You and I have a very different definition of "gladly". The US was too scared to send any tanks to Ukraine until the UK sent Challenger 2
"Too scared" um, no, it just wasn't efficient for us to sent Abrams tanks to Ukraine when Leopards would be better suited for Ukraine's needs. The only reason we sent them in the first place was Germany's unwillingness to send them without us.
Laser rangefinders were standard on t72-t90 FC systems, so those tanks definately will be fine for ranged combat. But it's easy to say there is a probably 1 in 2 chance the t72-t90 your fighting in Ukraine at the moment has thermal vision
Soviet T-72 did have accuracy issues with the beam. It was off-center from bore (hence the red dot marking in the GPS) and couldn't reach out as far without giving an incorrect return. It could matter in Ukrainian ranges of 3km+. I think it's also fixed in new units; T-72B3 doesn't have the dot anymore and lazes from the center of the GPS.
The Abrams returning to its natural habitat. Nature is healing.
The biggest issue the abrams is going to face is the dirt/mud i have first hand experience using an abrams in Europe throwing track was a common occurrence and once the track in thrown you're a sitting duck for drones and artillery it takes a seasoned crew to not throw track and sometimes its just happens everyone says it was designed for Europe but it does best in the desert