11:33 I agree but if the game is bad it will overshadow any good elements it has If a game is good most will overlook the bad elements. It's a shame because Metropolis looks great but David Hego (who was the environment designer/visual director since Asylum if not earlier) and the environment design team always do their part.
Gaming is a collaborative effort that needs everyone to be on their A-game. Games are the sum of their parts and if it's mostly bad then expect your work to fade into the background. Metropolis just makes me long for a superman game with Arkham levels of quality which would've looked even better with the game being single player and not worrying about carrying 4 players online. With the upcoming superman movie coming off of a superman game would've been something been the beginning of the superman mania. The same way batman did with the arkham series that began at the height of the Nolan trilogy.
1 Year Later and yet this is a Insult towards Games and Creativity that, this Game is a Failure in every single aspect and angle that all it did was to make people like me to never Trust neither Rocksteady or SweetBaby Inc. ever again, it was a Mistake to make this Connected to the Arkhamverse, a Mistaketo made it about a Suicide Squad Game, a Mistake to make it a Live Service Game, a Mistake to give them Guns than to make them Unique and have more Characters instead of DLCs, a Mistake in Design and Story Structure, and a Mistake to Kill the Justice League instead of making a Superman, Justice League, or Batman Beyond Game, all of that Potential Wasted, there’s not going to be any more Opportunities, No More Chances, it was a Huge Red Flag when the Title is called Kill the Justice League, another Evil Superman and iconic heroes, the multiple delays, and baiting us of using Kevin Conroy’s Name to this Monstrosity, the Price was Criminal and the DLC was so Hollow, if I want another Arkham Game, it should be given to the People who made Origins and Shadows, Never Rocksteady.
Rocksteady will have to prove themselves again in my eyes. Game development takes way too long to have blind faith. I honestly do not anticipate their next project. It's up to them to convince me otherwise.
After this game and many other studios failing my philosophy with game studios has been "focus on their current project instead of being blinded by their best work as you don't know what their mentality is going into the current projects"
Where they f up is putting this in the Arkham series. They could made this in a different universe because it's hard to believe the Batman we played threw 4 games origins to Knight he would get brainwashed that easily. The last role for Kevin Conroy is getting a bolet to the head where fans lost it Then they make WW the only one to not get brain wash and the other gets disrespected to all levels flash green lanter and superman get a hell of nerfed and don't even get a good send of.
I mean they messed up by trying to say this was tied to the Arkham verse Race swapping dead shot. The premise was actually stupid to begin with because we never played as any other character from the Justice League but we're getting a suicide Squad game in the world of Arkham now where it could have worked if it was a continuation to what Arkham origin set up. But they didn't they were trying to do looter shooter game with diversity and inclusion at the forefront while trying to disrespect the Justice League team and uplift the females It was such a dumb premise to begin with as soon as I saw Raceswap Deadshot and they said it was part of the Arkham verse I already knew this game was dead. You can't have a team game where everybody's doing the same thing especially in a superhero world because if that's the case we could have just played DC Universe online which is a better looter shooter game that they was trying to get us to play.
I think you misstated the reaction to the original SSKTJL reveal. Lots of fans of the Arkham games were at that point already disappointed in Rocksteady going in the Suicide Squad direction instead of a Batman/Bat-Family or JL game. The reveal trailer was already off because of the quirky humor and retconned characters in the SS being main characters in this game. Remember, King Shark was supposed to be dead, Captain Boomerang was out of left field, Deadshot was literally a different person, and Harley’s appearance (face especially) was entirely redesigned. Fans were able to call out the inauthenticity from the beginning. The story and premise of the game was inherently the first strike against it.
Rocksteady the ultimate example of a fall from grace. The studio that committed career suicide ironic that the game they used made use of the moniker. There's no defending rocksteady as they take a great chunk of responsibility. deadshot's race did bring about some controversy questioning it place in the continuity. The HUD did leak before the before the gameplay. I tried the Alpha it was hit or miss. The studio that made me love gaming is also the same studio that ultimately made me jaded to the hobby.
@@Trench-coat Learned? They ran before launch and didn't suffer any consequences for their incompetence. Unless you're talking about he new heads. It doesn't help with all the poor treatment that occurred under their watch to the point of a dev leaving not even wanting her name in the credits before they revealed this atrocity.
Honestly if there’s a better way to make this premise work here’s how? Have the main heroes die off EARLY in the game (but here’s the catch) You can still play as them! You’re in heaven (as an angel) and you try to fight your way out to get back to earth Also angels are helping you get back to earth You also get to have a sword that could change into many things (based on puzzles and combat) Fire ice thunder and air! No micro transaction no DLC none of that GARBAGE!
Now listen I don't want to say this sounds worse than suicide squad kills the justice league but your idea makes suicide squad kills the justice league sound like pure poetry
It feels like most premium live service games follow the same pattern-long development cycles, a lot of lead managers leaving due to creative differences, and a short lifespan. It’s like the leads work in a vacuum, ignoring what players actually want. If they had released a free version of the game (like Warframe), it probably would’ve been received better, with lower expectations and more room to grow. The only premium game I can think of that still has a small but loyal following is The Division, but even their fanbase seems to be moving on to games like Warframe and Descendant. The industry execs and producers keep trying the same old tricks that just don’t work anymore in 2025. --- Does that capture the essence of your thoughts? Let me know if you’d like to tweak anything!
One year later the game suck it was waste of time it was a waste of development it was a waste of people trying to defend it it was just something that should have never existed One year later it killed the stocks of WB and it killed any accolades that rocksteady and WB games had
Literally one of the WORST Superhero Game EXPERIENCES OF ALL TIME. This Story doesn’t make any sense. The Justice League is alive and the Squad were fighting clones the whole time and it turns out it was Batman’s plan from the beginning? And for some reason his plan involved Wonder Woman being killed by a clone league member? It’s apparent Rocksteady didn’t care anymore about the story after the HUGE Backlash the game received should have just made a Superman game instead you’re already in Metropolis. I would rather play Superman 64 than Suicide Squad Kill The Justice League. Gameplay is very repetitive, main characters are annoying and they have zero growth throughout the story. The mission design is TERRIBLE there are literally 7 main campaign missions where you have to protect a very slow moving vehicle against waves of enemies it’s so boring and repetitive! Man I can’t believe Rocksteady made this game it feels like Ubisoft created this crap the quality is a TREMENDOUS drop off from the Arkham Games. It was a huge mistake to set this game in the Arkham Universe because it retcons everything in the Arkham games. Rocksteady Studios might not be able to bounce back from this mess. We went from playing as “The BATMAN” to transgender Mr. Freeze… oh how the mighty have fallen. 4/10
SPOILER WARNING for this video! - What were your thoughts on Suicide Squad? Let me know down in the comments!
Concord saved that game from being 2024's biggest bomb
Totally did… 🤣
11:33 I agree but if the game is bad it will overshadow any good elements it has
If a game is good most will overlook the bad elements.
It's a shame because Metropolis looks great but David Hego (who was the environment designer/visual director since Asylum if not earlier) and the environment design team always do their part.
Yeah.. the game genuinely looks fantastic but all the bad stuff makes it hard to notice.
Gaming is a collaborative effort that needs everyone to be on their A-game.
Games are the sum of their parts and if it's mostly bad then expect your work to fade into the background.
Metropolis just makes me long for a superman game with Arkham levels of quality which would've looked even better with the game being single player and not worrying about carrying 4 players online. With the upcoming superman movie coming off of a superman game would've been something been the beginning of the superman mania. The same way batman did with the arkham series that began at the height of the Nolan trilogy.
@@baki484 you are 100% right...man a single player Superman game would be so great!
@@Trench-coat Especially after seeing the interior of he daily planet and superman's design.
1 Year Later and yet this is a Insult towards Games and Creativity that, this Game is a Failure in every single aspect and angle that all it did was to make people like me to never Trust neither Rocksteady or SweetBaby Inc. ever again, it was a Mistake to make this Connected to the Arkhamverse, a Mistaketo made it about a Suicide Squad Game, a Mistake to make it a Live Service Game, a Mistake to give them Guns than to make them Unique and have more Characters instead of DLCs, a Mistake in Design and Story Structure, and a Mistake to Kill the Justice League instead of making a Superman, Justice League, or Batman Beyond Game, all of that Potential Wasted, there’s not going to be any more Opportunities, No More Chances, it was a Huge Red Flag when the Title is called Kill the Justice League, another Evil Superman and iconic heroes, the multiple delays, and baiting us of using Kevin Conroy’s Name to this Monstrosity, the Price was Criminal and the DLC was so Hollow, if I want another Arkham Game, it should be given to the People who made Origins and Shadows, Never Rocksteady.
It was tough seeing things go down the way they did!
The devs were just as confused this was under Sefton's leadership.
Rocksteady will have to prove themselves again in my eyes. Game development takes way too long to have blind faith. I honestly do not anticipate their next project. It's up to them to convince me otherwise.
I agree! Only time will tell. They have to convince us again.
After this game and many other studios failing my philosophy with game studios has been "focus on their current project instead of being blinded by their best work as you don't know what their mentality is going into the current projects"
Where they f up is putting this in the Arkham series. They could made this in a different universe because it's hard to believe the Batman we played threw 4 games origins to Knight he would get brainwashed that easily. The last role for Kevin Conroy is getting a bolet to the head where fans lost it Then they make WW the only one to not get brain wash and the other gets disrespected to all levels flash green lanter and superman get a hell of nerfed and don't even get a good send of.
100%… totally agree
I mean they messed up by trying to say this was tied to the Arkham verse Race swapping dead shot. The premise was actually stupid to begin with because we never played as any other character from the Justice League but we're getting a suicide Squad game in the world of Arkham now where it could have worked if it was a continuation to what Arkham origin set up. But they didn't they were trying to do looter shooter game with diversity and inclusion at the forefront while trying to disrespect the Justice League team and uplift the females It was such a dumb premise to begin with as soon as I saw Raceswap Deadshot and they said it was part of the Arkham verse I already knew this game was dead. You can't have a team game where everybody's doing the same thing especially in a superhero world because if that's the case we could have just played DC Universe online which is a better looter shooter game that they was trying to get us to play.
Exactly.
I think you misstated the reaction to the original SSKTJL reveal.
Lots of fans of the Arkham games were at that point already disappointed in Rocksteady going in the Suicide Squad direction instead of a Batman/Bat-Family or JL game.
The reveal trailer was already off because of the quirky humor and retconned characters in the SS being main characters in this game.
Remember, King Shark was supposed to be dead, Captain Boomerang was out of left field, Deadshot was literally a different person, and Harley’s appearance (face especially) was entirely redesigned.
Fans were able to call out the inauthenticity from the beginning.
The story and premise of the game was inherently the first strike against it.
Rocksteady the ultimate example of a fall from grace.
The studio that committed career suicide ironic that the game they used made use of the moniker.
There's no defending rocksteady as they take a great chunk of responsibility.
deadshot's race did bring about some controversy questioning it place in the continuity.
The HUD did leak before the before the gameplay. I tried the Alpha it was hit or miss.
The studio that made me love gaming is also the same studio that ultimately made me jaded to the hobby.
I think the creative heads at Rocksteady learnt a massive lesson from the failure of this game. Hopefully they learn from it...
@@Trench-coat Learned? They ran before launch and didn't suffer any consequences for their incompetence. Unless you're talking about he new heads.
It doesn't help with all the poor treatment that occurred under their watch to the point of a dev leaving not even wanting her name in the credits before they revealed this atrocity.
Amazing video! 🎉 I agree with you on all aspects!
Thanks for watching!
You need more subs with this editing skils
Thank you!
Honestly if there’s a better way to make this premise work here’s how?
Have the main heroes die off EARLY in the game (but here’s the catch)
You can still play as them!
You’re in heaven (as an angel) and you try to fight your way out to get back to earth
Also angels are helping you get back to earth
You also get to have a sword that could change into many things (based on puzzles and combat)
Fire ice thunder and air!
No micro transaction no DLC none of that GARBAGE!
Now listen I don't want to say this sounds worse than suicide squad kills the justice league but your idea makes suicide squad kills the justice league sound like pure poetry
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Yeah it’s just an idea I don’t think it’s going anywhere!
Just a thought!
Amazing video bro
Gald to see you back
Good to be back
It feels like most premium live service games follow the same pattern-long development cycles, a lot of lead managers leaving due to creative differences, and a short lifespan. It’s like the leads work in a vacuum, ignoring what players actually want. If they had released a free version of the game (like Warframe), it probably would’ve been received better, with lower expectations and more room to grow.
The only premium game I can think of that still has a small but loyal following is The Division, but even their fanbase seems to be moving on to games like Warframe and Descendant. The industry execs and producers keep trying the same old tricks that just don’t work anymore in 2025.
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Does that capture the essence of your thoughts? Let me know if you’d like to tweak anything!
This game could have done well if it’s wasn’t for wonder brothers,
Yeah... but trust me the heads at Rocksteady also had a lot to do with it.
11:07 yeah member berries .
One year later the game suck it was waste of time it was a waste of development it was a waste of people trying to defend it it was just something that should have never existed One year later it killed the stocks of WB and it killed any accolades that rocksteady and WB games had
One year later, the game is still a less-than-worthless knock-off The Boys game.
There, one year later in 20 words or less.
Lol fair enough…
@ No disrespect meant, I just wrote that on impulse after watching a video on ultimatum.
@ no I found it super funny 🤣
Literally one of the WORST Superhero Game EXPERIENCES OF ALL TIME. This Story doesn’t make any sense. The Justice League is alive and the Squad were fighting clones the whole time and it turns out it was Batman’s plan from the beginning? And for some reason his plan involved Wonder Woman being killed by a clone league member? It’s apparent Rocksteady didn’t care anymore about the story after the HUGE Backlash the game received should have just made a Superman game instead you’re already in Metropolis. I would rather play Superman 64 than Suicide Squad Kill The Justice League. Gameplay is very repetitive, main characters are annoying and they have zero growth throughout the story. The mission design is TERRIBLE there are literally 7 main campaign missions where you have to protect a very slow moving vehicle against waves of enemies it’s so boring and repetitive! Man I can’t believe Rocksteady made this game it feels like Ubisoft created this crap the quality is a TREMENDOUS drop off from the Arkham Games. It was a huge mistake to set this game in the Arkham Universe because it retcons everything in the Arkham games. Rocksteady Studios might not be able to bounce back from this mess. We went from playing as “The BATMAN” to transgender Mr. Freeze… oh how the mighty have fallen. 4/10
Definitely a disaster game
But have they been creative