Romans 11:17-21: "But if some of the branches were broken off, and you, being a wild olive, were grafted in among them and became partaker with them of the rich root of the olive tree, do not be arrogant toward the branches; but if you are arrogant, remember that it is not you who supports the root, but the root supports you. You will say then, “Branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in.” Quite right, they were broken off for their unbelief, but you stand by your faith. Do not be conceited, but fear; for if God did not spare the natural branches, He will not spare you, either."
@@Aaron_Wells you took that verse out of context because in the start of romans 11:1-16 Gentiles need to provoke jews to jealousy so they will come back to the truth , it doesn't mean they replaced all israel only small part of Israel will be saved , in verses 25-26 .
The term "Israel" refers in the Epistles refers to ANYONE Jew or Gentile who believes. Israel in the Bible is a paradigm for what God really wanted to do in Christ for all humanity.
Is Piper Pro Biden and anti-Trump because of Piper's Replacement Theology views? See what you think? It is interesting that in Piper's latest article he seems to think Biden's Character isn't an issue. I could have agreed with Piper's article IF he had also shown Biden's Character and evil deeds, Piper hides Biden's character and evil while focusing on exposing Trump's. Also what Piper seems to be implying is that "Yes, Biden is a little misguided in some of his policies but his Character is much much better than Trump's." What Piper hides is just as revealing as what Piper highlights. I essential agree with what Piper wrote but it is only one side of the coin, I would like to flip the coin over and now highlight what Piper hides. Piper is more offended at Trump's brash manner than Biden's evil deeds. Piper discounts Trump's deeds as almost unimportant. Could it be that Trump's deeds as a leader are much more Biblically aligned than Biden's ever were? Trump's deeds are: pro-life, pro-church, pro-constitution, pro-law and order, pro-freedom, pro-Israel, pro-Peace in the middle east, pro-family, pro-equal opportunity, anti-corruption and Trump takes no salary for all of his headaches. These are Trump's deeds that we can applaud, Piper never mentioned those as being important. Like CNN he seems to not notice those things that contradict the narrative he is putting forth. Now let's look at Biden's deeds...Pro-Iran government giving them Billions in cash which were clearly intended for terrorism and IS being used to destroy Israel and kill Christians as a rule of Iranian law. Death to Israel's right to exist is Iran's #1 Goal...Biden is Pro-Iran and helping them do that by his policies. Biden is Pro-Corruption, selling his position for money to the Ukranian corrupt politicians, selling his influence to Russia through Hunter, selling his influence to China for huge amounts of money. Corrupting his own family (Hunter) and making him play this role for the GOOD of the Biden family Bank Account. Biden is corrupt in falsely accusing Trump of the very things he and Obama actually did. Biden knew all of those false charges he was making and was complicit in making. He knew they were total fabrication. Biden's deeds are terrible, yet what Piper seems to like is that Biden can do it all with a calm facial expression. To Piper it seems Biden's demeanor while he is actually practicing evil is so good that the evil deeds that Biden actually does should be considered of little consequence because Biden's demeanor is so quite and smug. Yet in the book of Jeremiah God hates it that "When they practiced abomination they were not at all ashamed; they did not know how to blush." Piper seems to like that about Biden. He calmly practices evil. That seems to be good for Piper....why? Biden's character and deeds are: Pro-killing babies, anti-church, anti-constitution, anti-police, anti-Israel, anti-peace in the middle east, anti-family, pro-corruption in the government including the courts, pro-Iranian hatred of Israel. But Biden win's Piper's heart because he can do all this evil with a calmness that comes from a heart practiced at doing evil. Let's look at the names of satan and see if Biden reflects any of those characteristics: Devil means "false accuser, slanderer", Angel of light "capacity to deceive by outward appearances" "father of lies" "Liar" "Deceiver". It is also clear that Biden is a "Lover of Money" Psa 52 "a worker of deceit. You love evil more than good, and lying more than speaking what is right." Mic. "you who hate the good and love the evil" Biden is obviously a hater of God according to Proverbs "all who hate me love death" anyone say Abortion, Biden loves killing babies, even encourages it and gives Baby killers lots of money to do it more and more. So at the end of the day why is Piper so Anti-Trump? Is there more to the story? Is there a deep seated reason for this despising of Trump and being favorably disposed towards Biden? I submit that there is and it is REPLACEMENT THEOLOGY. Trump won the debate with Piper as it relates to Replacement Theology. What do I mean?? PIPER is a huge replacement theology guy. The Peace deals in the middle east right now PROVE clearly that Replacement theology is a terrible error and a false teaching, (which Piper has arrogantly preached for decades). Replacement theology at it's root has always had an element of anti-Semitism. Anti-Semitism comes from the one who is and has always been the Biggest anti-Semite ever, Satan himself. Many Replacement Theology guys resent Israel's existence in the middle east and I have heard it said by them that the middle east would be better off without an Israel. (Just maybe Piper was hoping that Israel would finally get snuffed out by Iran (which Biden supports) and thereby prove his Theology correct. Now under Trump, with Israel gaining strength and the peace deals coming one after another Piper is in a state of crisis, one last hail mary in Biden's direction who is always Pro-Iran the greatest hater of Israel.)) I believe one of the underlying root reasons Piper is so Anti-Trump is because of what Trump has achieved in the middle east deals giving Israel Peace in the middle east and establishing an even greater prominence in the middle east for Israel, this pricks Piper's conscious and exposes his false teaching. These things scream in Piper's conscious that his teaching has been terribly wrong for decades. When the debates were merely intellectual and you could simply say "well great scholars differ on these issues" Piper felt good because he was NOT yet SHOWN to be wrong. But all that is happening in the middle east right now, through Trump's dealings now PROVES that PIPER is wrong and that Replacement Theology is a lie. Piper hates Trump because it is through Trump that his theology has been proven to be wrong. This brash man has PROVEN Piper's theology to be wrong. The facts do NOT line up for Replacement Theology, the facts do NOT line up in favor of Piper and the greatest debater of Replacement theology ironically has been Trump's deeds in the middle east. Piper's pride in his intellect allowed him to argue everything away until now. But now, even his intellect cannot get him out of the unavoidable Truth before his eyes. The middle east happenings are proving daily that Replacement Theology is a hoax, and Trump reminds him of it. So of course Piper is going to shoot the messenger (Trump) the one who proved by deeds and facts that Piper's theology is wrong. I expect Piper to be Anti-Trump simply because of his Replacement Theology and how Trump shakes Piper's tree right down to the roots. Here is a quote from SEA and relates to Replacement theology, I believe it helps us understand Piper's Hail Mary at this stage as his tree is being uprooted.... “If a man builds his house in a tree, he will defend that tree with his life, even when it is discovered that the tree is diseased, simply because his life’s investment (the house) is in that tree. I am convinced this is what happened... Better to build one’s house on solid rock.” Replacement Theology is that diseased tree and Piper's whole house is in that tree. Trump's deeds have proven that Piper's tree is diseased, and Piper is angry at the messenger. Ultimately Piper is angry at God for God not holding to Replacement Theology. Piper is like Jonah angry at God for God's Good plan for Nineveh. None the less maybe Piper will get his wish (Biden). Whatsoever a man sows that shall he also reap, however I hope it is only for Minnesota where Piper lives. God help us.
Paul used the term "the Israel of God". Should that not tell you something? Why would Paul need to qualify that? There's an implication to Paul's characterization of the Israel of God in this way....and i will leave that for you to deduce.
Who is really teaching “Replacement Theology” ? (Did God fulfill His promises to the Jewish people at Calvary? Matthew 26:28, John 19:30) The advocates of modern Dispensational Theology often accuse others of promoting “Replacement Theology”, or some may even say “Antisemitism”. What does the Bible say about their accusations? 1. Who is replacing Christ as the seed of Abraham through which all the families of the Earth would be blessed in Genesis 12:3, with Abraham’s modern descendants? 2. Who is replacing the one people of God in John 10:16, with two peoples of God ? 3. Who is replacing the one seed (Christ) in Galatians 3:16, with the many seeds? 4. Who is replacing the children of the promise in Romans 9:8, with the children of the flesh? 5. Who is replacing the faithful “remnant” of Israelites in Romans 11:1-5, with the Baal worshipers? 6. Who is replacing the word "so" in Romans 11:26, with the word "then"? 7. Who is attempting to replace the Church made up of all races of people, with one made up only of Gentiles? Why did Peter address the crowd as “all the house of Israel” in Acts 2:36, when about 3,000 Israelites accepted Christ on the Day of Pentecost? 8. Based on Hebrews 9:15, the New Covenant cannot be separated from the Messiah’s death. Is the covenant in Daniel 9:27 connected to the Messiah’s death in Daniel 9:26. Is the covenant with the “many” in Daniel 9:27 the same covenant with the “many” in Matthew 26:28? If it is, some have replaced the New Covenant in Daniel 9:27 with a future covenant made by an antichrist not found in Daniel chapter 9. (See the 1599 Geneva Bible used by the Pilgrims.) 9. Those promoting the Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology often accuse others of teaching “Replacement Theology”, but are they the masters of it? Are they promoting a form of Dual Covenant Theology based on race? (See “genealogies” in Titus 3:9) 10. Watch the UA-cam video “Genesis of Dispensational Theology” to see the origin of this man-made doctrine, which is less than 200 years old. It was brought to the United States about the time of the Civil War by John Nelson Darby. The doctrine was later incorporated into the notes of the Scofield Reference Bible, and then spread through much of the modern Church. Dallas Theological Seminary in Dallas Texas was created in part to promote John Darby’s Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology. Lewis Sperry Chafer, the first president of Dallas Theological, had the following to say about the difference between Israel and the Church:
“The dispensationalist believes that throughout the ages God is pursuing two distinct purposes: one related to the earth with earthly people and earthly objectives involved which is Judaism; while the other is related to heaven with heavenly people and heavenly objectives involved, which is Christianity.” Lewis Sperry Chafer, Dispensationalism (Dallas, Seminary Press, 1936), p. 107. Chafer states that, ‘Israel is an eternal nation, heir to an eternal land, with an eternal kingdom, on which David rules from an eternal throne,’ that is, on earth and distinct from the church who will be in heaven.” Lewis Sperry Chafer. Systematic Theology. 1975. Vol. IV. pp. 315-323. John Walvoord, another prominent voice of Dallas Theological stated… "...it is an article of normative dispensational belief that the boundaries of the land promised to Abraham and his descendants from the Nile to the Euphrates will be literally instituted and that Jesus Christ will return to a literal and theocratic Jewish kingdom centred on a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem. In such a scheme the Church on earth is relegated to the status of a parenthesis.” John F. Walvoord, The Rapture Question.1979, p. 25 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Are there two peoples of God in John 10:16? (See also 1 John 2:22-23, 2 John 1:7-11.) What is the land promise to the Old Testament Saints in Hebrews 11:15-16? Based on 2 Peter 3:10-13, is this earth “eternal”? Will it be replaced by a new earth? Based on Acts 2:36, and Romans 9:6-8, and Romans 11:1-5, and Hebrews 12:22-24, and James 1:1-3, can faithful Israel and the Church be separated into two different groups? Who is the New Covenant promised to in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and Hebrews 8:6-13? Will modern Orthodox Jews ever be saved outside of the New Covenant Church?
The Church is the true Israel of God!
Replacement .... , gentiles have been grafted
Romans 11:17-21: "But if some of the branches were broken off, and you, being a wild olive, were grafted in among them and became partaker with them of the rich root of the olive tree, do not be arrogant toward the branches; but if you are arrogant, remember that it is not you who supports the root, but the root supports you. You will say then, “Branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in.” Quite right, they were broken off for their unbelief, but you stand by your faith. Do not be conceited, but fear; for if God did not spare the natural branches, He will not spare you, either."
Romans 11 is talking about the salvation of the remenant of Israel and of the gentiles
@@Aaron_Wells you took that verse out of context because in the start of romans 11:1-16
Gentiles need to provoke jews to jealousy so they will come back to the truth , it doesn't mean they replaced all israel only small part of Israel will be saved , in verses 25-26 .
The term "Israel" refers in the Epistles refers to ANYONE Jew or Gentile who believes. Israel in the Bible is a paradigm for what God really wanted to do in Christ for all humanity.
Is Piper Pro Biden and anti-Trump because of Piper's Replacement Theology views? See what you think?
It is interesting that in Piper's latest article he seems to think Biden's Character isn't an issue.
I could have agreed with Piper's article IF he had also shown Biden's Character and evil deeds, Piper hides Biden's character and evil while focusing on exposing Trump's. Also what Piper seems to be implying is that "Yes, Biden is a little misguided in some of his policies but his Character is much much better than Trump's." What Piper hides is just as revealing as what Piper highlights. I essential agree with what Piper wrote but it is only one side of the coin, I would like to flip the coin over and now highlight what Piper hides.
Piper is more offended at Trump's brash manner than Biden's evil deeds. Piper discounts Trump's deeds as almost unimportant. Could it be that Trump's deeds as a leader are much more Biblically aligned than Biden's ever were? Trump's deeds are: pro-life, pro-church, pro-constitution, pro-law and order, pro-freedom, pro-Israel, pro-Peace in the middle east, pro-family, pro-equal opportunity, anti-corruption and Trump takes no salary for all of his headaches. These are Trump's deeds that we can applaud, Piper never mentioned those as being important. Like CNN he seems to not notice those things that contradict the narrative he is putting forth.
Now let's look at Biden's deeds...Pro-Iran government giving them Billions in cash which were clearly intended for terrorism and IS being used to destroy Israel and kill Christians as a rule of Iranian law. Death to Israel's right to exist is Iran's #1 Goal...Biden is Pro-Iran and helping them do that by his policies. Biden is Pro-Corruption, selling his position for money to the Ukranian corrupt politicians, selling his influence to Russia through Hunter, selling his influence to China for huge amounts of money. Corrupting his own family (Hunter) and making him play this role for the GOOD of the Biden family Bank Account. Biden is corrupt in falsely accusing Trump of the very things he and Obama actually did. Biden knew all of those false charges he was making and was complicit in making. He knew they were total fabrication. Biden's deeds are terrible, yet what Piper seems to like is that Biden can do it all with a calm facial expression. To Piper it seems Biden's demeanor while he is actually practicing evil is so good that the evil deeds that Biden actually does should be considered of little consequence because Biden's demeanor is so quite and smug. Yet in the book of Jeremiah God hates it that "When they practiced abomination they were not at all ashamed; they did not know how to blush." Piper seems to like that about Biden. He calmly practices evil. That seems to be good for Piper....why?
Biden's character and deeds are: Pro-killing babies, anti-church, anti-constitution, anti-police, anti-Israel, anti-peace in the middle east, anti-family, pro-corruption in the government including the courts, pro-Iranian hatred of Israel. But Biden win's Piper's heart because he can do all this evil with a calmness that comes from a heart practiced at doing evil. Let's look at the names of satan and see if Biden reflects any of those characteristics: Devil means "false accuser, slanderer", Angel of light "capacity to deceive by outward appearances" "father of lies" "Liar" "Deceiver". It is also clear that Biden is a "Lover of Money" Psa 52 "a worker of deceit. You love evil more than good, and lying more than speaking what is right." Mic. "you who hate the good and love the evil" Biden is obviously a hater of God according to Proverbs "all who hate me love death" anyone say Abortion, Biden loves killing babies, even encourages it and gives Baby killers lots of money to do it more and more. So at the end of the day why is Piper so Anti-Trump? Is there more to the story? Is there a deep seated reason for this despising of Trump and being favorably disposed towards Biden?
I submit that there is and it is REPLACEMENT THEOLOGY. Trump won the debate with Piper as it relates to Replacement Theology. What do I mean??
PIPER is a huge replacement theology guy. The Peace deals in the middle east right now PROVE clearly that Replacement theology is a terrible error and a false teaching, (which Piper has arrogantly preached for decades). Replacement theology at it's root has always had an element of anti-Semitism. Anti-Semitism comes from the one who is and has always been the Biggest anti-Semite ever, Satan himself. Many Replacement Theology guys resent Israel's existence in the middle east and I have heard it said by them that the middle east would be better off without an Israel. (Just maybe Piper was hoping that Israel would finally get snuffed out by Iran (which Biden supports) and thereby prove his Theology correct. Now under Trump, with Israel gaining strength and the peace deals coming one after another Piper is in a state of crisis, one last hail mary in Biden's direction who is always Pro-Iran the greatest hater of Israel.))
I believe one of the underlying root reasons Piper is so Anti-Trump is because of what Trump has achieved in the middle east deals giving Israel Peace in the middle east and establishing an even greater prominence in the middle east for Israel, this pricks Piper's conscious and exposes his false teaching. These things scream in Piper's conscious that his teaching has been terribly wrong for decades. When the debates were merely intellectual and you could simply say "well great scholars differ on these issues" Piper felt good because he was NOT yet SHOWN to be wrong. But all that is happening in the middle east right now, through Trump's dealings now PROVES that PIPER is wrong and that Replacement Theology is a lie. Piper hates Trump because it is through Trump that his theology has been proven to be wrong. This brash man has PROVEN Piper's theology to be wrong. The facts do NOT line up for Replacement Theology, the facts do NOT line up in favor of Piper and the greatest debater of Replacement theology ironically has been Trump's deeds in the middle east. Piper's pride in his intellect allowed him to argue everything away until now. But now, even his intellect cannot get him out of the unavoidable Truth before his eyes. The middle east happenings are proving daily that Replacement Theology is a hoax, and Trump reminds him of it.
So of course Piper is going to shoot the messenger (Trump) the one who proved by deeds and facts that Piper's theology is wrong. I expect Piper to be Anti-Trump simply because of his Replacement Theology and how Trump shakes Piper's tree right down to the roots. Here is a quote from SEA and relates to Replacement theology, I believe it helps us understand Piper's Hail Mary at this stage as his tree is being uprooted....
“If a man builds his house in a tree, he will defend that tree with his life, even when it is discovered that the tree is diseased, simply because his life’s investment (the house) is in that tree. I am convinced this is what happened... Better to build one’s house on solid rock.”
Replacement Theology is that diseased tree and Piper's whole house is in that tree. Trump's deeds have proven that Piper's tree is diseased, and Piper is angry at the messenger. Ultimately Piper is angry at God for God not holding to Replacement Theology. Piper is like Jonah angry at God for God's Good plan for Nineveh. None the less maybe Piper will get his wish (Biden). Whatsoever a man sows that shall he also reap, however I hope it is only for Minnesota where Piper lives. God help us.
Paul used the term "the Israel of God". Should that not tell you something? Why would Paul need to qualify that? There's an implication to Paul's characterization of the Israel of God in this way....and i will leave that for you to deduce.
Yes, it tells us the Church is the Israel of God.
Who is really teaching “Replacement Theology” ?
(Did God fulfill His promises to the Jewish people at Calvary? Matthew 26:28, John 19:30)
The advocates of modern Dispensational Theology often accuse others of promoting “Replacement Theology”, or some may even say “Antisemitism”. What does the Bible say about their accusations?
1. Who is replacing Christ as the seed of Abraham through which all the families of the Earth would be blessed in Genesis 12:3, with Abraham’s modern descendants?
2. Who is replacing the one people of God in John 10:16, with two peoples of God ?
3. Who is replacing the one seed (Christ) in Galatians 3:16, with the many seeds?
4. Who is replacing the children of the promise in Romans 9:8, with the children of the flesh?
5. Who is replacing the faithful “remnant” of Israelites in Romans 11:1-5, with the Baal worshipers?
6. Who is replacing the word "so" in Romans 11:26, with the word "then"?
7. Who is attempting to replace the Church made up of all races of people, with one made up only of Gentiles? Why did Peter address the crowd as “all the house of Israel” in Acts 2:36, when about 3,000 Israelites accepted Christ on the Day of Pentecost?
8. Based on Hebrews 9:15, the New Covenant cannot be separated from the Messiah’s death. Is the covenant in Daniel 9:27 connected to the Messiah’s death in Daniel 9:26. Is the covenant with the “many” in Daniel 9:27 the same covenant with the “many” in Matthew 26:28? If it is, some have replaced the New Covenant in Daniel 9:27 with a future covenant made by an antichrist not found in Daniel chapter 9. (See the 1599 Geneva Bible used by the Pilgrims.)
9. Those promoting the Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology often accuse others of teaching “Replacement Theology”, but are they the masters of it? Are they promoting a form of Dual Covenant Theology based on race? (See “genealogies” in Titus 3:9)
10. Watch the UA-cam video “Genesis of Dispensational Theology” to see the origin of this man-made doctrine, which is less than 200 years old. It was brought to the United States about the time of the Civil War by John Nelson Darby. The doctrine was later incorporated into the notes of the Scofield Reference Bible, and then spread through much of the modern Church.
Dallas Theological Seminary in Dallas Texas was created in part to promote John Darby’s Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology.
Lewis Sperry Chafer, the first president of Dallas Theological, had the following to say about the difference between Israel and the Church:
“The dispensationalist believes that throughout the ages God is pursuing two distinct purposes: one related to the earth with earthly people and earthly objectives involved which is Judaism; while the other is related to heaven with heavenly people and heavenly objectives involved, which is Christianity.”
Lewis Sperry Chafer, Dispensationalism (Dallas, Seminary Press, 1936), p. 107.
Chafer states that, ‘Israel is an eternal nation, heir to an eternal land, with an eternal kingdom, on which David rules from an eternal throne,’ that is, on earth and distinct from the church who will be in heaven.”
Lewis Sperry Chafer. Systematic Theology. 1975. Vol. IV. pp. 315-323.
John Walvoord, another prominent voice of Dallas Theological stated…
"...it is an article of normative dispensational belief that the boundaries of the land promised to Abraham and his descendants from the Nile to the Euphrates will be literally instituted and that Jesus Christ will return to a literal and theocratic Jewish kingdom centred on a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem. In such a scheme the Church on earth is relegated to the status of a parenthesis.”
John F. Walvoord, The Rapture Question.1979, p. 25
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Are there two peoples of God in John 10:16? (See also 1 John 2:22-23, 2 John 1:7-11.)
What is the land promise to the Old Testament Saints in Hebrews 11:15-16?
Based on 2 Peter 3:10-13, is this earth “eternal”? Will it be replaced by a new earth?
Based on Acts 2:36, and Romans 9:6-8, and Romans 11:1-5, and Hebrews 12:22-24, and James 1:1-3, can faithful Israel and the Church be separated into two different groups?
Who is the New Covenant promised to in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and Hebrews 8:6-13?
Will modern Orthodox Jews ever be saved outside of the New Covenant Church?