@@turtlefalcon5546Also zones is the only layout with the car skewers which ALMOST make the side routes usable (I know the reason is because the objectives like the tower but like if they were there on clams it would be way more playable).
When I played on Rom-en the first time it immediately clicked that it was a good map even without being super competitive, the multiple routes are just inherently more fun and interesting and I still don't know why the devs won't add some routes to other stages
I just finally got Splatoon 1 and started playing for the first time ever and holy crap are the maps insane and more fun, I've seen them in videos . To be honest the ones that returned in 3 (aside from Hammerhead) do feel very similar (yes, even Mahi) but just scaled up a lot more, like they got a 1.5x multiplier in size at least vertically, and just with more random routes and climeable walls added allowing for way more exploration and sightseeing, and just kinda gawking in awe at the scale of the maps. 3's just feel way smaller and a bit too focused most of the time and thus kinda boring (comparing them is like comparing what some place looked like when you were a child and then you coming back to it as a much larger adult if you know what I mean). Rom-en still feels smaller and more like the latter in philosophy compared to the S1 maps, but way better and so much more fun than the other S3 ones, making for a good balance I'd say, as the latter approach does have the benefit of actual combat and interactions with the competitive aspect of the match happening more and being more focused if done right, which is harder to do with S1's massive stages, and I'd say Rom-en very much does do it right (except maybe in clams because that one feels a bit stall-y to me).
I, a c-rank dweller who mostly just playsvturf, have a fantastic memory of a round of crableg zones where the teams were evenly matched, leading to unadulterated violence happening for basically the entire match. So much fun.
A lot of people are saying that zones only is a bad idea for this tier list, and I have to jump on the bandwagon too. Zones maps are always much, much worse than the maps in any other mode due to having more one-way drops and limited options. Scorch, for example is a decent map in the other modes, but is literally unplayable on zones. I would have preferred to see each mapmode ranked separately since there's a lot of disparity. On a related note, this tier list shows the problem with the zones-only mindset. There are only six maps in A or higher, which means that you'd often be playing the same six maps over and over. I know most viewers wouldn't want to see that, and I doubt comp players would want to either after long enough.
While I agree with this sentiment, tower has A maps that would be A tier or higher, Rain would have 0, and Clams would be the only mode comparable in terms of quality. Its kind of an issue with any single mode which is why I think zones preferred is better, but thats a topic for another time.
@@ProCharaEven if zones preferred is objectively the better ruleset rn, other modes still get played in zones preferred and it would have been nice to draw attention to maps that are really good/really bad on other modes
@@Dr_sharko I get why you would think that, but this tier list is not made for casual,d or evex really x rank players even, this is specifically for tournaments an similar things, where zones is more relevant
I appreciate any and all tier lists, as they are great to listen to when I am doing work. I find it a little off putting the community is going to a zones-only dynamic as I find Blitz and TC more fun, but that is just me.
The community isn't going to zones only, at least right now. Zones is being discussed as being a favored mode in tourneys, meaning that there will be more zones games than other modes.
Basically the idea is to have as many zones games as the total other modes. This is primarily because the maps being generally pretty awful negatively affects RM and Tower much more than Zones and clams has their objectives a little bit too far back and so is often quite slow. Zones is currently the mode with the most weapon diversity too. It's mainly to try and make the games more exciting for casual viewers so they actually watch tournaments even if they're not too interested in comp.
Correct me if I am wrong on this (I am still learning comp splatoon I mainly come from Smash), but it appears that the C tier stages are akin to counterpicks in Smash stage lists (meaning they cannot be picked first game of the set). Stages that are a bit more controversial, but can lead to interesting specific interactions as opposed to more general strengths. And it would not surprise me if D tier and below are just not allowed in tournaments. This is of course not based on your ranking specifically, but instead in thr scenario of a tier list used to visually explain a competitive stagelist. Great video, and honestly the maps have improved a lot over the past year. We obviously have a lot of stinkers, but there's enough good now to counteract it to a degree. Now bring back Urchin and Blackbelly people ninty!!
I wanna hear about the other modes, but I'm gonna say that I actually enjoyed this video just from a "watching a tier list video" standpoint with its single-mode focus! I played Eeltail/Shipshape Zones last night and I could instantly relate, rather than trying to sort out all the mapmodes in my head. so what i'm saying is that you can just have more content whenever you want and this vid was fun
Zones only makes no sense here. At least for the weapons, zones only basically meant a “mode-independent” scenario to more fairly judge the weapon. But here, you are literally basing the entire tier list off of 1/4 of the information that we have. This tier list would be vastly different if all modes were included, so it just doesn’t make a lot of sense to give people the impression that some maps that are better in zones than other modes are better than more well rounded maps (ex: mincemeat and manta in the same tier).
This video is not for casual or even x rank players, if you are one of those 2 this video should be used purely for entertainment, this is for competitive players in tournaments alone, where zones is just way more relevant atm. If other modes become more important in tournaments hed probably do videos on them, but for the intent of this video zones only is fine. If you want a tierlist to guide your own opinions on maps, look elsewhere.
@@EepyCreatureLava If you think zones is more relevant to the comp scene right now than other modes outside of the highest levels of the comp scene, you’re just not paying close enough attention to what’s actually getting played at tournaments. Other modes have a lot of prevalence right now as they always have, zones-only has just been pushed by a small amount of top-level players that don’t have a bearing on what the rest of the scene is playing.
@@DHVF28 Chara is a top level player though so it makes sense for him to rank things from his perspective, but also your original comment you say “this tier list would be vastly different if all modes were included”. If Chara did all the modes in one tier list it would be much less accurate as some maps change wildly between modes.
@@hugoshires5162 The difference would not be enough to render the list completely inaccurate. Better to include all information at hand in a tier list than leave 3/4 of it out just to make it easier to understand.
I used to not really like Hagglefish, but I think I’m starting to realize that it’s just the solo queue experience and not the map. Every time I play on that Zones layout, the backlines will not move off that one tent. Never changing positions as a backline is bad enough, but only the longest range backlines like E-liter and Hydra can actually do anything besides paint the closer half of the zone. And when the rest of the team takes zone and pushes up, even they are way too far back to make any meaningful impact. Hagglefish Zones is probably a lot better of a map than I think of it as, but I do wish there was some other decent backline positions to encourage anchors to actually think once in a while
4:57 - 8:07 is when the song Moonstruck Blossom from Kirby Triple Deluxe Plays (he has it labeled wrong in the description) Also mincemeat not being low tier is crazy to think about
2:19 It's like Morey Towers from Splatoon 1😎 3:45 This map was really unbalanced in Splatoon 1 😒 7:37 This map has changed A LOT since Splatoon 1 and I don't love how they changed it 😡 10:03 I agree that they made a big mistake getting rid off the other spawn exits 13:36 I love Humpback pumptrack! It's one of my favourite stages and it's pretty good for snipers. ❤ 14:18 I always get crushed at splat zones on this map 😑 14:57 This map is the only map from the first game that hasn't really changed at all 🎉 16:24 Mako Mart is great 😍 16:56 I don't like how they changed Mahi Mahi Resort so much from Splatoon 1 💔 17:38 I LOVE THIS MAP. IT'S MY FAVOURITE ❤️😘❤️😍🎉
Um’ami doesn’t feel like it has a spawn area. As a charger main, the side with the ink rail feels unusable (platform too short to be meaningful + charge doesn’t carry thru the rail unless you’re a good tuber so you’re super vulnerable). I hate Brinewater, but I think I enjoy it more than Um’ami
On a casual aspect, I personally always have so much fun on Eeltail SZ with my first main weapons: Dapple Dualies. People just don’t know how to deal with me on that map/mode and it’s a rush lol.
Pls look at competitive. It is zones only bc zones only is what is being played in competitive. So it doesn't hurt the mindset. Also these tierlists in general are mostly for comp where there is more coordination
@@EchoSynthesis but it's not though. There are some zones only tourneys yea but overall zones only isn't the dominant method of competitive play. This doesn't even make sense from the viewpoint from a casual viewer of Chara considering he himself asked IF people would like a zones only format not even a month ago IF
I personally disagree a lot with Um'ami and Barnacle, me personally, I think Barnacle should never be played anywhere due to any lack of a left side and in turn, how snowbally it is. Similarly with Um'ami, although there is a left route, it's not a very good route and is extremely easy to watch. I generally think mid is okay but imo, Um'ami and Barnacle are way more lock out heavy than Brinewater in my experience
Um’ami Ruins is my favorite. I love jumping from middle platform onto the small box between spawn and mid and onto the enemy team’s highground. Those grates makes the jump possible for literally every weapon in the game. And once you’re up there, you become a walking squid beacon. Imo Um’ami Zones is my favorite! But Um’ami Clams is life!!!!!
I hope that the bottom/low tier stage get major changes these stages are not fun to fight when there a long range chargers and have absolutely no flank routes making it harder to go in. Please Nintendo fix these maps
im not lying when i say that i have never lost a game of tower control eeltail with my vroller. I know that makes it a bad map but im always so excited when I see it in rotation I cant not love it
It sucks that some maps have no good ways to come back up spawn once you drop off, but isn't it trivial when you can always just super jump to spawn? It's faster, too, than just swimming there.
I have a hard time thinking Flounder Heights was ever good competitively even in Splat 1, because of the map layout. All that space available, and only a small fraction of the map felt relevant to the gameplay.
This game is in fact growing at a positive and i'm not making that up because the updates are being handled with care with in turn with the past two seasons have seen more and more people give it positive feedback
Hey Guys happy new year! To Chara, thanks for the amazing content throughout the year! It’s always a highlight of my day to watch your videos. Keep up the good work!
I will stand by ranking it zones only is kinda awful Mincemeat is not at the bottom, and pre rework mahi would be a high tier, two things that would never be uttered outside of a splatzones context
I feel like the tunnel is overhyped for flounder since adding it back would just bring you into a bunch of worsened areas to fight The top of each building was effectively cut in half since the left path from spawn is a one way that traps you in a corner and the trenches being made so cramped just makes fighting there suck. The overall height change and spawn snipe being more realistically contestable were good changes though
Nice video, would have loved if you'd showcased all the changes from S1 you mentioned in greater detail, I. E. always with an accompanying clip. Also, have you considered making this video for the other three modes as well?
ProChara I need your help. I just got back from a large break from Splatoon and can't seem to get back into the groove. Before the break I was doing quite well and was in S+1 or 2, but now, for the first time, I am stuck at S+ -900. This is not a typo, I actually managed to reach -900 score in S+. It seems no matter what I do there is something that goes wrong like a stray bomb from nowhere, an E-liter with an insane reaction time, a bucket or a blaster that won't lose my trail. The weird part is that I do really well in open battles with games like 23 kills, 3 splats and the most turf inked. I really don't know what I am doing wrong because even when I take a few steps back it seems like there is no way around my problems. Even when it seems like I am doing good, I loose. I am currently trying my hand with the splat roller and have seen some amazing results with it, but now I am stuck and don't know what to do. I can't tell if I am doing something wrong or just have insanely bad luck. If you have any tips or ideas I am open to all. Thank you.
Ever since the 2023 trailer came out I've still thought that the wall behind the elevator should be inkable so you have two different options, but yeah the elevator speed should be faster too Edit: WAIT THE BAYO MUSIC oh my god
I’m confused as to why drop offs are a bad thing. In my experience, I have a lot more fun on a map when it is much harder to get to the enemy spawn and, by extension, spawn camp or lockout objective. That’s probably the main reason I hate zones so much lol!
@@MKJBlewisSponges are still better than nothing but some of the larger ones leave you really vulnerable when you swim up and give time to shoot and shrink them
@@hugoshires5162 True. I would imagine his experience is different than mine lol, but in my experience the easier it is to get to the enemy spawn, and unfortunately by extension how easy it is to retreat, the more spawncamping and lockouts happen, which ruins the everything from the fun to the fights--regardless of whether my side is winning or losing.
They do, and I feel he should have restate this, but this is a competitive list only for people in ternaments, not even x rank, but exclusively competitive, and in comp splat zones are far more important than all the other stages, if this was a casual or x rank tier list, he probably would include the other modes. Just with comp, zones are so much more important.
Reminder to any unreasonable person! This video does not have an impact on how YOU enjoy Splatoon 3. It is still a good game that could use a lot of changes.
You know, I agree with most of this, especially on the lower end. There are a few maps I just won't play if they're in rotation. . .Zones Eeltail is the big one. Like others, I do think showing them off as Zones only hurts some of these maps. Personally speaking, I find Zones rather boring. Admittedly what competitive I play is essentially a homegrown league setting and our map pool is much broader. . . but I'd probably stop playing if they went Zones only. I HATED Clams in 2. . .put me with a team, and its becomes one of my favorite Team environment modes. I don't typically even attempt Clams solo anymore, I'll do anything else.
i love seeing chara's chat reacting so negatively when mincemeat gets placed over anything else lmao
Mincepeak Metalcook >>>
Honestly zones is probably mincemeat’s best mode, it’s mostly the other ones that make it so bad
@@turtlefalcon5546 funny because I kinda like mincemeat tower (even tho I don’t like tower)
@@turtlefalcon5546Also zones is the only layout with the car skewers which ALMOST make the side routes usable (I know the reason is because the objectives like the tower but like if they were there on clams it would be way more playable).
When I played on Rom-en the first time it immediately clicked that it was a good map even without being super competitive, the multiple routes are just inherently more fun and interesting and I still don't know why the devs won't add some routes to other stages
hopefully theyll do reworks for eeltail and hammerhead
I just finally got Splatoon 1 and started playing for the first time ever and holy crap are the maps insane and more fun, I've seen them in videos . To be honest the ones that returned in 3 (aside from Hammerhead) do feel very similar (yes, even Mahi) but just scaled up a lot more, like they got a 1.5x multiplier in size at least vertically, and just with more random routes and climeable walls added allowing for way more exploration and sightseeing, and just kinda gawking in awe at the scale of the maps. 3's just feel way smaller and a bit too focused most of the time and thus kinda boring (comparing them is like comparing what some place looked like when you were a child and then you coming back to it as a much larger adult if you know what I mean).
Rom-en still feels smaller and more like the latter in philosophy compared to the S1 maps, but way better and so much more fun than the other S3 ones, making for a good balance I'd say, as the latter approach does have the benefit of actual combat and interactions with the competitive aspect of the match happening more and being more focused if done right, which is harder to do with S1's massive stages, and I'd say Rom-en very much does do it right (except maybe in clams because that one feels a bit stall-y to me).
I, a c-rank dweller who mostly just playsvturf, have a fantastic memory of a round of crableg zones where the teams were evenly matched, leading to unadulterated violence happening for basically the entire match. So much fun.
You probably dont need to worry about this list then lol, sounds fun
A lot of people are saying that zones only is a bad idea for this tier list, and I have to jump on the bandwagon too. Zones maps are always much, much worse than the maps in any other mode due to having more one-way drops and limited options. Scorch, for example is a decent map in the other modes, but is literally unplayable on zones. I would have preferred to see each mapmode ranked separately since there's a lot of disparity.
On a related note, this tier list shows the problem with the zones-only mindset. There are only six maps in A or higher, which means that you'd often be playing the same six maps over and over. I know most viewers wouldn't want to see that, and I doubt comp players would want to either after long enough.
While I agree with this sentiment, tower has A maps that would be A tier or higher, Rain would have 0, and Clams would be the only mode comparable in terms of quality. Its kind of an issue with any single mode which is why I think zones preferred is better, but thats a topic for another time.
Welcome to the club
@@ProCharaEven if zones preferred is objectively the better ruleset rn, other modes still get played in zones preferred and it would have been nice to draw attention to maps that are really good/really bad on other modes
I can’t wait to see how many of Tent’s maps are located in the lower end of the list lol
Really carries on those awful maps yeah lmao
Man this was hurt most by being zones only as some maps vary wildly in quality between modes like my beloved undertow rainmaker
I agree. Some map’s change a lot depending on the mode. Having it zones only just is unfair
@@Dr_sharko I get why you would think that, but this tier list is not made for casual,d or evex really x rank players even, this is specifically for tournaments an similar things, where zones is more relevant
real, umami and shipshape clam are my beloved
@@EepyCreatureLava I know but it just doesn’t feel right to me.
Brinewater springs is pretty, and that's about it
Also give Wahoo cannons and long rails to mid
I appreciate any and all tier lists, as they are great to listen to when I am doing work.
I find it a little off putting the community is going to a zones-only dynamic as I find Blitz and TC more fun, but that is just me.
The community isn't going to zones only, at least right now. Zones is being discussed as being a favored mode in tourneys, meaning that there will be more zones games than other modes.
I think it’s just because zones is the most varied and interesting of the tier lists. If it were just TC or Clams it’d be “what you expect”
Basically the idea is to have as many zones games as the total other modes.
This is primarily because the maps being generally pretty awful negatively affects RM and Tower much more than Zones and clams has their objectives a little bit too far back and so is often quite slow.
Zones is currently the mode with the most weapon diversity too.
It's mainly to try and make the games more exciting for casual viewers so they actually watch tournaments even if they're not too interested in comp.
only real ones know this was recorded first 😭
This man knows
Damn so im not real
@@IhonestlydekNO!!
Damn im fake asl 💀
I love the trend that were seeing right now, recetly added maps makes it in the higher tiers
Now we need a Chara Tier List tier list. Which tier list was X Tier and which one was F tier.
Correct me if I am wrong on this (I am still learning comp splatoon I mainly come from Smash), but it appears that the C tier stages are akin to counterpicks in Smash stage lists (meaning they cannot be picked first game of the set). Stages that are a bit more controversial, but can lead to interesting specific interactions as opposed to more general strengths. And it would not surprise me if D tier and below are just not allowed in tournaments.
This is of course not based on your ranking specifically, but instead in thr scenario of a tier list used to visually explain a competitive stagelist.
Great video, and honestly the maps have improved a lot over the past year. We obviously have a lot of stinkers, but there's enough good now to counteract it to a degree.
Now bring back Urchin and Blackbelly people ninty!!
The guy that made ROM-en definitely cooked and needs to design more maps
Splatoon 3 in a nutshell:
"Which bad map do I play today?"
Honestly I was expecting Scorch Gorge to be the absolute worst map for zones because in zones that map is irredeemable
I wanna hear about the other modes, but I'm gonna say that I actually enjoyed this video just from a "watching a tier list video" standpoint with its single-mode focus! I played Eeltail/Shipshape Zones last night and I could instantly relate, rather than trying to sort out all the mapmodes in my head.
so what i'm saying is that you can just have more content whenever you want and this vid was fun
Zones only makes no sense here. At least for the weapons, zones only basically meant a “mode-independent” scenario to more fairly judge the weapon. But here, you are literally basing the entire tier list off of 1/4 of the information that we have. This tier list would be vastly different if all modes were included, so it just doesn’t make a lot of sense to give people the impression that some maps that are better in zones than other modes are better than more well rounded maps (ex: mincemeat and manta in the same tier).
This video is not for casual or even x rank players, if you are one of those 2 this video should be used purely for entertainment, this is for competitive players in tournaments alone, where zones is just way more relevant atm. If other modes become more important in tournaments hed probably do videos on them, but for the intent of this video zones only is fine. If you want a tierlist to guide your own opinions on maps, look elsewhere.
@@EepyCreatureLava If you think zones is more relevant to the comp scene right now than other modes outside of the highest levels of the comp scene, you’re just not paying close enough attention to what’s actually getting played at tournaments. Other modes have a lot of prevalence right now as they always have, zones-only has just been pushed by a small amount of top-level players that don’t have a bearing on what the rest of the scene is playing.
@@DHVF28 Chara is a top level player though so it makes sense for him to rank things from his perspective, but also your original comment you say “this tier list would be vastly different if all modes were included”. If Chara did all the modes in one tier list it would be much less accurate as some maps change wildly between modes.
@@hugoshires5162 The difference would not be enough to render the list completely inaccurate. Better to include all information at hand in a tier list than leave 3/4 of it out just to make it easier to understand.
I used to not really like Hagglefish, but I think I’m starting to realize that it’s just the solo queue experience and not the map. Every time I play on that Zones layout, the backlines will not move off that one tent. Never changing positions as a backline is bad enough, but only the longest range backlines like E-liter and Hydra can actually do anything besides paint the closer half of the zone. And when the rest of the team takes zone and pushes up, even they are way too far back to make any meaningful impact. Hagglefish Zones is probably a lot better of a map than I think of it as, but I do wish there was some other decent backline positions to encourage anchors to actually think once in a while
I like to stand on that tent on Hagglefish when I'm playing Heavy Splatling.
Mind you, I stand on the *enemy's* tent, but y'know.
@@blunderbus2695 that’s a great aggressive spot! I find myself doing the same occasionally
4:57 - 8:07 is when the song Moonstruck Blossom from Kirby Triple Deluxe Plays (he has it labeled wrong in the description)
Also mincemeat not being low tier is crazy to think about
2:19 It's like Morey Towers from Splatoon 1😎
3:45 This map was really unbalanced in Splatoon 1 😒
7:37 This map has changed A LOT since Splatoon 1 and I don't love how they changed it 😡
10:03 I agree that they made a big mistake getting rid off the other spawn exits
13:36 I love Humpback pumptrack! It's one of my favourite stages and it's pretty good for snipers. ❤
14:18 I always get crushed at splat zones on this map 😑
14:57 This map is the only map from the first game that hasn't really changed at all 🎉
16:24 Mako Mart is great 😍
16:56 I don't like how they changed Mahi Mahi Resort so much from Splatoon 1 💔
17:38 I LOVE THIS MAP. IT'S MY FAVOURITE ❤️😘❤️😍🎉
I think you should rank these all for the other modes too I think it would be pretty cool!
Came to leave a comment about Mincemeat but i already got crossmapped by an E-Litre
Honestly I disagree heavily about Um’ami being a top 4 zones map, especially over Museum.
Um‘ami has in my opinion a much bigger lockout problem than Museum
@@ouh.my_ no I 100% agree with you.
Um’ami doesn’t feel like it has a spawn area. As a charger main, the side with the ink rail feels unusable (platform too short to be meaningful + charge doesn’t carry thru the rail unless you’re a good tuber so you’re super vulnerable). I hate Brinewater, but I think I enjoy it more than Um’ami
I wasn't expecting to hear fly me to the moon bayo version in a Splatoon video hahsh love it
I really like how they in the thumbnail had hammerhead bridge in the middle
12:05 as a Krak-On Splat Toller Player in Zones, this is probably my favorite zones map
On a casual aspect, I personally always have so much fun on Eeltail SZ with my first main weapons: Dapple Dualies. People just don’t know how to deal with me on that map/mode and it’s a rush lol.
I feel like the zones only mindset hurts this tierlist the worst, especially since zones only isn't being played much rn.
Pls look at competitive. It is zones only bc zones only is what is being played in competitive. So it doesn't hurt the mindset. Also these tierlists in general are mostly for comp where there is more coordination
Maybe zones favored, but not zones only.
@@EchoSynthesis but it's not though. There are some zones only tourneys yea but overall zones only isn't the dominant method of competitive play.
This doesn't even make sense from the viewpoint from a casual viewer of Chara considering he himself asked IF people would like a zones only format not even a month ago
IF
@@eaterofkirbs4917 yeah zones favored seems likely for the future. I'm open to it personally since it doesn't completely invalidate the other modes.
I wonder if there will ever be a day Chara talks about anything but zones only
I like how there’s no high tiers or top tiers. That really adds to what the map design in this game feels like.
MakoMart, ROM-en and Mahi:
Hey ramen is at least high tier 😅
I think they were referring to the video itself not having chapters for both high tiers and top tiers I believe so?
13:10 4 months after the release of this video, we do have a left side on this Map. :D
You know the maps are bad when Mahi is a top tier
But it got reworked.
Splatoon 3's stage design is the best in the series with the exception of 21 maps tbh
I personally disagree a lot with Um'ami and Barnacle, me personally, I think Barnacle should never be played anywhere due to any lack of a left side and in turn, how snowbally it is.
Similarly with Um'ami, although there is a left route, it's not a very good route and is extremely easy to watch. I generally think mid is okay but imo, Um'ami and Barnacle are way more lock out heavy than Brinewater in my experience
Love to see this new pivot to Controversy over Content! Let's see how it works out for you
I would love to see a video where you design your own map concept (similar to the special concepts video maybe?)
WOAH, I WAS NOT EXPECTING A TEAM SKULL THEME
Im a sucker for gen 7
They always have the best music choices
Kinda funny how some of these maps could be better if given inkable walls
I completely agree with Eeltail Alley, that map is the worst in the entire series, both competitively and casually 😭💀
Um’ami Ruins is my favorite. I love jumping from middle platform onto the small box between spawn and mid and onto the enemy team’s highground. Those grates makes the jump possible for literally every weapon in the game. And once you’re up there, you become a walking squid beacon. Imo Um’ami Zones is my favorite! But Um’ami Clams is life!!!!!
I’ve never been more proud of my child Mincemeat for making it this high😄
I like how scorch zones is very familiar to s2’s kelp dome zones 😂
The fact that ramen is the most recent original map in the game gives me hope that the devs are figuring stuff out.
I personally think that is time for a redo of this. Especially with the new tier list coming soon.
me looking at the title tryna figure out if hes ranking them in a tier list or ranking the ones in A tier:
I play daily and I forgot manta Maria existed 💀
I hope that the bottom/low tier stage get major changes these stages are not fun to fight when there a long range chargers and have absolutely no flank routes making it harder to go in. Please Nintendo fix these maps
Ok now make the list again after the map reworks
im not lying when i say that i have never lost a game of tower control eeltail with my vroller. I know that makes it a bad map but im always so excited when I see it in rotation I cant not love it
Casually all my favorites are Splatoon 1 map. Flounder, Museum, Bluefin, Mahi, the older maps have more vibrance and I enjoy their gimmicks.
Sturgeon shipyard has that one area underneath the zone which is really useful tho
congratulations splatoon 3 for only having 3 good zones maps in the game
Where would you plug in marlin airport?
And now we wait for Chara to rank all weapons and maps based on the other modes. Not that its needed, i just enjoy hearing his opinion
It sucks that some maps have no good ways to come back up spawn once you drop off, but isn't it trivial when you can always just super jump to spawn? It's faster, too, than just swimming there.
And how do you like the idea of playing on a flat, empty area, without hills?
I have a hard time thinking Flounder Heights was ever good competitively even in Splat 1, because of the map layout. All that space available, and only a small fraction of the map felt relevant to the gameplay.
This game is in fact growing at a positive and i'm not making that up because the updates are being handled with care with in turn with the past two seasons have seen more and more people give it positive feedback
Putting Flounder in C and Umami in A should be a crime
14:14 it’s basically a MOBA stage
Hey Guys happy new year! To Chara, thanks for the amazing content throughout the year! It’s always a highlight of my day to watch your videos. Keep up the good work!
I love how the majority of the maps are just bad
“The absolutely cooked with ramen.”
Pun intended?
Yes
I will stand by ranking it zones only is kinda awful
Mincemeat is not at the bottom, and pre rework mahi would be a high tier, two things that would never be uttered outside of a splatzones context
When he said Um'ami, I thought he said, "Mmm, mommy" 😂😂
i like how some of the maps are rlly good in modes that are NOT splat zones lol
Underpass better be good when it returns (and yes, im calling it right here, right now)
I feel like the tunnel is overhyped for flounder since adding it back would just bring you into a bunch of worsened areas to fight
The top of each building was effectively cut in half since the left path from spawn is a one way that traps you in a corner and the trenches being made so cramped just makes fighting there suck.
The overall height change and spawn snipe being more realistically contestable were good changes though
Nice video, would have loved if you'd showcased all the changes from S1 you mentioned in greater detail, I. E. always with an accompanying clip. Also, have you considered making this video for the other three modes as well?
"Cooked with Ramen"
...I see what you did
I tend to use gloogas in zones even with its poor paint, but when eeltail’s big ass zone is in rotation i immediately go to another weapon 💀
ProChara I need your help. I just got back from a large break from Splatoon and can't seem to get back into the groove. Before the break I was doing quite well and was in S+1 or 2, but now, for the first time, I am stuck at S+ -900. This is not a typo, I actually managed to reach -900 score in S+. It seems no matter what I do there is something that goes wrong like a stray bomb from nowhere, an E-liter with an insane reaction time, a bucket or a blaster that won't lose my trail. The weird part is that I do really well in open battles with games like 23 kills, 3 splats and the most turf inked. I really don't know what I am doing wrong because even when I take a few steps back it seems like there is no way around my problems. Even when it seems like I am doing good, I loose. I am currently trying my hand with the splat roller and have seen some amazing results with it, but now I am stuck and don't know what to do. I can't tell if I am doing something wrong or just have insanely bad luck. If you have any tips or ideas I am open to all. Thank you.
I think most maps have their ups and downs for different modes
4:10 minor spelling mistake
Damn, the difference between casual and competitive. I despise B&D in casual. A left side really would help it be less of a funnel.
Ever since the 2023 trailer came out I've still thought that the wall behind the elevator should be inkable so you have two different options, but yeah the elevator speed should be faster too
Edit: WAIT THE BAYO MUSIC oh my god
Great, now rate challenges in a tier list
This one is the main reason I dislike SZ only lists, maps are very varied between modes (most of the time) and that is very frustrating to watch
I’m confused as to why drop offs are a bad thing. In my experience, I have a lot more fun on a map when it is much harder to get to the enemy spawn and, by extension, spawn camp or lockout objective. That’s probably the main reason I hate zones so much lol!
Sponges pretty much solves the problem you mentioned
@@metalridleyztrue, but he was discussing them as though they were bad…
@@MKJBlewisSponges are still better than nothing but some of the larger ones leave you really vulnerable when you swim up and give time to shoot and shrink them
@@hugoshires5162 True. I would imagine his experience is different than mine lol, but in my experience the easier it is to get to the enemy spawn, and unfortunately by extension how easy it is to retreat, the more spawncamping and lockouts happen, which ruins the everything from the fun to the fights--regardless of whether my side is winning or losing.
I usually have a fun time on scorch gorge and eeltail zones and hate barnacle with a passion lol.
I agree with elltail and it’s so annoying that open lately has had its so much for zones
Not me hearing fly me to the moon from bayonetta and not seeing it on the music list 😭
Makes me wonder if Undertow's intended gimik is just "Bottleneck".
As someone who mains Stringer Eeltail being last is sad but understandable
Where is Marooner's Bay?
I wish you a happy new year🎉
I think this one shouldn't have been zones only because the different modes change the maps a lot
They do, and I feel he should have restate this, but this is a competitive list only for people in ternaments, not even x rank, but exclusively competitive, and in comp splat zones are far more important than all the other stages, if this was a casual or x rank tier list, he probably would include the other modes. Just with comp, zones are so much more important.
There is no left side in Splatoon 3
The tier list kinda looks like half of a Christmas tree… it’s both sad and festive
Also as a casual player I quite like Mincemeat...don't hit me yet ok?
its so sad to see 2 of the splat 1 greats so low. RIP Hammerhead
Now do it for all the other modes 😂
Scorch zone gives me kelp dome ptsd
Undertow Spillway has got that hourglass figure frr 😝😝
Ramen is a five course meal.
YO MINCEMEAT IN C TIER W (I still hate the stage)
Reminder to any unreasonable person! This video does not have an impact on how YOU enjoy Splatoon 3. It is still a good game that could use a lot of changes.
Put wahoo at 1 cause the glitches are funny af
hey chara nice tierlist, i agree with you in everyting, but you could make a tierlist of every map in every mode pleaseeeeeeeeeeee like in splatoon 2
You know, I agree with most of this, especially on the lower end. There are a few maps I just won't play if they're in rotation. . .Zones Eeltail is the big one.
Like others, I do think showing them off as Zones only hurts some of these maps. Personally speaking, I find Zones rather boring. Admittedly what competitive I play is essentially a homegrown league setting and our map pool is much broader. . . but I'd probably stop playing if they went Zones only. I HATED Clams in 2. . .put me with a team, and its becomes one of my favorite Team environment modes. I don't typically even attempt Clams solo anymore, I'll do anything else.
heavily agree with Zones Eeltail. one dumb route, a bunch of …things? trash? in mid so you can‘t even paint the zone, heavy spawncamp problem
What is the best map for Hydra on Zones?