Well as Frodo himself said, his journey was a lot more different than Bilbo's. Bilbo's journey was to discover the world outside of shire, Frodo's journey was to thrive past the conjuring evil bent on taking over the world.
In Tolkien’s world, spiders are all descended from ungoliant. The giant spider that was spawned out of void that eats light and vomits darkness. So when radagast the brown says “dark creatures” it’s because they are literally dark creatures
Ungoliant also allied with Sauron's master Morgoth and together they destroyed light from the world. And then Ungoliant turned against Morgoth and nearly devoured him as well! It took SEVERAL Balrogs to make Ungoliant flee. Let all that sink in.
I personally love these films. I think Peter Jackson faced a very difficult challenge when he decided to make The Hobbit AFTER making Lord of the Rings. You had to try and satisfy both people who grew up on the book and wanted to see that, and people whose only knowledge of Middle-Earth came from his earlier trilogy and wanted something comparable, and I think he did well in the circumstances. I actually prefer these films to the book-they feel more tonally consistent with LOTR and also get into more backstory and lore that could only be found in the appendices to the books. Tolkien himself actually had to re-write the meeting between Bilbo and Gollum after LOTR was published because it didn't mesh well...originally, Gollum gave Bilbo the ring as a prize for winning the riddle game, but after deciding the ring was evil and held such a grip on its bearer, that didn't work anymore and so he completely re-wrote that chapter and re-published the book. By the way, the Ringwraiths are ancient and were around since before Sauron was defeated by Isildur. They remained in Middle-earth the whole time in between; the Witch King was actually king of Angmar AFTER having become a wraith. No one knows what land he had been king of back when he was human.
I just want to point out that Gimili's Dad is in this company and so is the the dwarf who's grave they found in Moria (Balin). This is why Gimili and Gandalf react as they do.
Elves and dwarves were nor really "enemies", but there was a lot of mistrust between them going back thousands of years to things that happened in the First Age, but again, that's another story from another book. So is the origin of the large spiders in Middle-Earth, they are descendants of an evil spirit from the first age. Also, the Nazgul were around a long time before this. Men had great kingdoms in the northern regions, but were defeated by the Witch King and mostly destroyed hundreds of years before this.. Weathertop is one of many ruins left from that Kingdom. I'll try to stop editing in lore before my paragraph gets too big, Yeah, the lore is super deep.
@@InternalOptimal as far as I know the dunedain rangers like aragorn were in the area because they were still defending the lands of the old kingdom. They keep the shire pure.
@@whitenoisereacts The spiders in Mirkwood were descended from Shelob, the giant spider Frodo and Sam meet. Shelob was the last spawn of Ungoliant, an evil spirit that was allied with Sauron's master Melkor way back near the beginning of the world. Ungoliant poisoned the two trees of light (the basis for the sun and moon) but some of the light was preserved and after millennia, a bit of it ended up in the little glass phial Galadriel gives to Frodo, which, of course, helps save them from Ungoliant's last child. Tolkien loved those sort of full-circle storylines. The sword Merry uses to stab the Witch-King in the leg had originally been made in the northern kingdom for the wars against Angmar, where the Witch-King ruled, so in a way it finally served its purpose at the siege of Gondor.
@@whitenoisereacts well, for one thing, the dwarves were not the creation of Eru Illuvatar (aka Tolkiens God), but of Aule, the Vala of crafting and smithing. They were blessed with life and sort of "adopted" by Eru Illuvatar, but put to sleep until after the awakening of Elves and men. I belive that the dwarves hace always been considered, and considered them selves, outsiders, without a real place or context. This, along with all the other grudge and tension between Elves and dwarves (such as the situation with Smaug and the fall of Erebor among other things) was always going to infect the relationships between dwarves, elves and men
I love the scene at the dinner at Bilbo's home when that dwarf eats an entire egg. They were playing as the scene was being shot, and their joy is true. They thought he could not catch the egg 🤣🤣🤣
Fun fact: Tolkien had his own specific definitions for Witches and Wizards. In Middle Earth ‘Witch’ is another word for Wraith, so that’s why the leader of the Nazgul is the ‘Witch-King of Angmar’. So when Radagast says it’s ‘Witchcraft’ it’s literally accurate since he’s sensing the presence of the Nazgul in Dol-Guldur
My favorite thing about the trolls is that you see them in the extended version of the Fellowship of the Ring and just...such a fun little thread. Martin Freeman made these movies for me - I just adore him and fell in love with him as Watson. These are not great movies but I love this world so that makes up for a lot.
Idk i like these films. They are funny, sad and they have lots of action. Also Martin Freeman is really great as Bilbo. And the ending... i cry every time. Well yea they could've done the story in 2 films. You got that point.
I've been to Hobbiton and I can confirm that it just takes your breath away! Really just transports you into Middle-Earth. I my have shed a few tears there haha
LoTR had a few major Director flaws, which could have been improved with a better director (nonetheless, its a good movie based on a great story/world). The Hobbit series was much worse. The first movie was good enough. the second was mediocre at best. The third was near trash. The problem with the hobbit, especially the last of them ( @onni ruusunen ) is it's sensationalistic rubbish designed for nothing but a corporate profit-grab on an end-of-life franchise. Peter Jackson definitely does not deserve the credit he's blessed with. With the huge budget he has for these movies, the huge support, and the amazing source material already developed and ready to be utilized, any decent director could have produced the same results. peter jackson was simply there to do the job and nearly botched it several times (and did with the Hobbit's later two movies). love the material, but don't think jackson contributed anything to its greatness or success. it succeeded despite him, not because of him.
Pity that you guys couldn't get ahold of the extended edition. Just a few good character beats are added in this movie. Btw, the elder Bilbo is played by Ian Holm, another great British thespian who was in lots of movies, including Alien. Martin Freeman does a great job incorporating some of his mannerisms, like you all agreed. And you're right, in the books all the swords made in Gondolin by the Noldor in the First Age glow blue when orcs are near. Thanks, I'm enjoying your Middle Earth movie reactions (both trilogies) - and hope you get to visit Hobbiton in NZ sometime.
Are you kidding me? Extended edition!? For this!? The theatrical release alone is so f*cking long and boring and terrible and you want to extend these three's suffering!? Are you a sadist?
@@tessapitts835 These movies are a bore and that's a fact. Don't like my opinion? Too bad. You and your ilk are the reason why there is nothing good in movies and TV shows nowadays.
One of the details that makes me absolutely love tolkien's writing style is poetic symmetry, the detail that bilbo's hoard of food is disturbed by the dwarves, and smaug's hoard was encroached upon by dwarves trying to reclaim one treasure over everything else, the selfish desire presented from two poles of passive and entirely destructive, and foreshadowing what they have in common being one of the qualities that spares bilbo being incinerated almost instantly, he appeals to his ego and genuinely intrigues him, just like gandalf does to convince bilbo to go on the journey
I do know that in the extended editions there is a deleted scene why the riff between elves and dwarves grew, Smaug getting hit by an arrow, Bilbo finds the sword of Isildur, Gandalf and the white council talk about the seven dwatf rings, and the Goblins sing a song for the prisoners.
Guys, I love that you're giving these movies a chance!!!! I LOVE these movies, I've read the book so many times and it is my dream to one day visit New Zealand where Hobbiton was inspired. Hope you guys are well and have fun on this adventure! For home is no behind you, Middle-Earth is ahead
Real talk, the film-makers had a challenge that Tolkien never had. When Tolkien wrote the hobbit, it wasn’t even really in the same canon as his Silmarillion material, it was a simple fairytale in a self-contained little fantasy world. It was only when he wrote Lord of the Rings that he connected his grand epic scope with this little tale. It’s all very well to say ‘Peter Jackson should have just made a fun fairytale’ but that’s not really possible when you’re setting it in the same world as the LOTR movies, and certainly the producers were never going to let him do that. It had to be lavish, that’s what people responded to in the original movies, and really it was the only way the Hobbit was going to be made.
My mother made me read the book before I watched this as a child, and I’m so glad she did. The movies were really a bloodless version of a great and charming book.
@@whitenoisereacts Its kind of unfair of some people to expect them to do so as The Hobbit is a bedtime story for children, while LOTR were written for adults.
@fee foo I don't think the both trilogy were supposed to give same vibes. I think Bilbo's journey was more about to discover what's actually outside of shire while Frodo's journey is all about a quest to fight off evil before it consumes his homeland.
During these movies I find it to be better in the extended version and not just because it's longer but also because sometimes the vanilla movies just skip some things that make sense in the narrative.
I thought the regular Hobbit movies were the extended movies since they’re so damn drawn out lmao like there was absolutely no reason to make three long ass movies out of one not-that-long book
15:05 the in universe explanation is that those spiders are LITERALLY descendent from an ACTUAL SPAWN OF EVILNESS the spider god ungoliant, so yeah but out of context that is pretty hilarious that radagast is just like: "fuck spiders" lol
Azog is an large gundabad orc. Possibly the largest so far. Also where Azog stood that was Weathertop. The conflict between dwarves and elves were like a Rollercoaster ride. They did sometimes were kind and respectable to one another but thing issues happen
I actually met James Nesbit who plays one of the dwarves about 20 years ago when he came to my school to pick up his niece who was in my year & still friends with today. Also know his sister, they live in my village still to this day. Lovely people
I never understood why Azog is the main villain for most of these films because in the book Azog was killed in the Battle of Azanulbizar as he was injured by Thorin but slain by Dain Ironfoot so I always thought wouldn’t it have been better story telling to have his son Bolg (who is in these movies) seeking revenge for his father rather than Azog just wanting revenge for his arm In the book the orcs or Goblins as they’re referred to in the Hobbit book aren’t really seen to have a leader until they’re in the Battle of the Five Armies where they’re lead by Bolg So this and the Strider name drop are the most annoying additions to the films as they make no sense at all as Azog should be dead and Aragorn should be ten years old
Aragorn would be twenty-seven at this time. He's 87 in Lord of the Rings, and this is 60 years earlier. As for the inclusion of Azog, I would guess it's because the battle of Azanulbizar was a major event in recent Dwarvish history, but there would be no real motive to include it if it didn't have some immediate relevance to the events happening at present. Besides, I can't for a moment believe that any orc really gives a damn about avenging family...trying to picture sentiment of any kind in orcs as they're portrayed here really doesn't feel right at all.
@@Corn_Pone_Flicks no it’s actually 77 years from this story to when we meet Aragorn in LOTR because it’s 60 years from the Hobbit to Bilbos birthday and then 17 years go by from when Gandalf goes to research about the ring to the point when Frodo buys a house outside of Hobbiton leaving Bag End to the Sackville Baggins and leaves Hobbiton for his mission to get to the Prancing Pony to meet Gandalf and this is where the four Hobbits meet an 87 year old Strider In those 17 years Gandalf is coming going from the Shire making sure both Frodo and the Ring are safe and along with Frodo carefully planning how Frodo will leave Hobbiton So Aragorn is 10 during the Hobbit, 70 when Bilbo turns 111 and Frodo turns 33 (they share a birthday) and Aragorn is 87 when he’s on the quest to Mount Doom You don’t really get to see that it’s 17 years from just watching the films as they can’t take as long as the books to tell a story and visually you can’t see it because characters like Frodo don’t age in the films because Elijah Wood was only 18 years old when filming began (a young looking 18 year old) despite this Frodo was 33 at the beginning of the story and during the quest he was 50 years old which is the same age as Bilbo when he began his adventure with him turning 51 during the course of the story
@@salvadoroars I think the book has far greater meaning with Thorin’s death truly demonstrating just the harshness of war as it isn’t specified who kills him he just dies from all his injuries he attained during the Battle of the Five Armies The last we see of Thorin before Bilbo gets knocked out was him downplaying Bilbo’s bravery and going off to war and then the battle ends and after awakening from being knocked out Bilbo is brought to see Thorin where he gives us his final words of "If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world. But, sad or merry, I must leave it now. Farewell." I think this less over the top death has far greater weight to it than the film death
Freeman and Armitage killed it as Bilbo and Thorin. Especially in TBOTFA. Everything about them was perfect. I also appreciate the fact that they looked to LOTR, rather than The Hobbit novel, when creating the dwarves. As quirky as they were, they still had some Gimli-style dignity I love An unexpected Journey, the other two are waaaay to long and to much all over the place. This should have been a two part, and not another trilogy, I mean, come on, the novel is what, 2-300 pages long?? That beeing said, I'm so glad that both Freeman and Armitage really understood how important the relationship between Bilbo and Thorin was to Tolkien himself. While def having some flaws, the relationship between Bilbo and Thorin alone is enought to watch this movie.
I love the first hour and the whole "Far Over the Misty Mountains" thing, but then I just get REALLY annoyed by the rest of it! Hope you all enjoy it though :)
Not all of the films were made in NZ. Both Sir Ian Holm and Sir Christopher Lee were unable to make the journey so Peter Jackson filmed their bits on green screen in London at Pinewood studios, then integrated them into the film.
As an aside, this flashback battle did happen in the books but the events around it were different. After they lost the mountain, Thror, the old king, eventually lost his marbles and walked into Moria on his own with only a single companion waiting outside for him. Azog killed him and tossed his head out the doors with his name carved into his brow. Thorin's father Thrain, went into a rage and not only rallied the shattered people of Erebor but the other six houses of the Dwarves (of with Erebor was only one). They then went through a seven-year-long war to eradicate all the orcs of the misty mountain which culminated in a massive battle outside of the gates of Moria called the battle of Azanulbizar. It was a complete horror story and half of the remaining strength of all the dwarven race died fighting but they managed to kill Azog in that battle and all but eradicate the orcs of the Misty Mountains...for a while. Fun fact, Azog was killed by Dain Ironfoot, Thorin's cousin who was the equivalent of a tween at the time. He managed to chase Azog down when the bugger was fleeing back into Moria. Thrain wanted to take Moria but the other houses refused and the contingent led by Dain wouldn't because he had gotten close enough to see the Balrog waiting inside for anyone foolish enough to try to enter. Then again I could see Thror trying to take Moria like that it would be something he might have tried in his mental state.
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Martin Freeman (Bilbo) and Benedict Cumberbatch (Smaug) were both in the newest Sherlock series. The grumpy dwarf Gloin, who has leather barrettes holding his mustache, is Gimli's dad.
I think (and this is especially in the extended versions) crucial as an add-on to Lord of the Rings. It shows of a lot of the back story and things that even in the books were somewhat unclear and obscured. Like how Gandalf is the keeper of one of the 3 elven rings. How Thorin's father had one of the 7 dwarven rings and it was taken by force from him in Dol Guldur (both of these details only show up in the extended version if memory serves). It also shows how Saruman kept the council in the dark about the fate of the one ring which he was already searching for at that time.
Just a point that I’m going to make. Saruman was always power hungry and potentially evil at least by the hobbit books. He may have come into middle earth in order to defend against Sauron, but eventually succumbed to his own desires and wants. He was actively, seeking to obtain the one ring, even now in the hobbit for his own purposes. During the war of the Ring, he even went so far as to lie to his allies servants (ringwraiths) about his knowledge of the Shire and where it was as we saw in the extended edition that Merry and Pippin both found Shire pipe-weed in Saruman’s storehouse. Which meant that Saruman had been actively invested in the Shire long before the war of the Ring. Also explains why he was actively part of what called the scourging of the Shire, which is in fact, the final battle of the war of the ring it ultimately ends in the exact same manner as the movie in the fact that Grima wormtongue stabs Saruman after he is defeated, and then shot by arrows, fact that this happens after Merry and Pippin, and Frodo and Sam return to the Shire that has been turned into a desolate wasteland, essentially what Frodo saw in Galadriel’s Mirror really did happen in the books. Anyway that is all I was going to say on the subject of Saruman and his evil intentions to the West
21:51 In the book Gandalf was investigating the appearance of the necromancer. The necromancer would be later identified as Sauron and his ring wraths.
You know. I always thought Gandalf and Albus Dumbledore would have gotten along very well! They both have an affinity to mysterious replies when talking to others 🤣❤️❤️
Regardless of how close or far The Hobbit movies are from the book, I still find them really enjoyable as just a good, fun adventure. The music is still great, the action is still great, it has one of the coolest dragons I've ever seen, and even though he's not even alive in the book, I really love Azog as a villain
i bought the blueray extended edition for lotr and the hobbit for like 85 bucks because, It's still pretty nice to have a physical dvd for a movie you rlly like.
@@RabbitShirak dain w9uld have been considered king of kings so I assume the rest of the dwarves were either prrpped for an invasion or defending the lonely mountains.
@@snugglecity3500 true, but there's also a matter of if they had time even to gather forces from other dwarf colonies. War around the Lonely mountain I think was left pretty vague.
And, not only do the wizards oversee each species, each kingdom is strategically located so that toogether they lock in Mordor. So as I understand it when Smaug took the dwarves that essentially opened a hole in the wall around Mordor, and that;s why trolls and orcs and monsters and stuff are on the rise thrloughout all the lands. All the other wizards responded to this by making their people more militant. So Gandolg took upon himself to fight Smaug...by manipulating Thorin and Bilbo into doing it for him, I mean by teaching Thorin and Bilbo to be adventurous and daring.
I have been to Hobbiton. I went to New Zealand with my sister and brother in May of 2019 and we got to visit Hobbiton and have a drink of ale at the Green Dragon. It was so much fun and so cool. I think you can get the extend edition as digital copies when you by the extend edition Dvd/blu ray but not 100% sure. It is sad Frodo how old allegiances can be lost and for what? Scoff.
Someone needs to mention how every mention of Sauron in this movie is not in the books, since all of that should have been forgotten by the time of lotr movies. If there was mention of Sauron Gandalf would not have taken 50 years to realize that was the one ring.
While I do agree with you that when Saruman is talking that all the things he mentions add up to a lot (of course we know he was working with Sauron, but it wasn't known at the time), I can also see why he would be worried about what the dwarves were trying to do. Smaug was the last of the "great" dragons and he might be worried about what would happen if he woke up and wasn't killed quickly.
In The Hobbit book Azog is actually long dead and it is his son Bolg, who is the leader of the Orcs(Goblins). Orcs and Goblins are just two terms for the same type of being and they of course can vary in size, the larger and stronger Orcs are usually leaders and chieftains: "The goblins gathered again in the valley. There a host of Wargs came ravening and with them came the bodyguard of Bolg, goblins of huge size with scimitars of steel." ... "Your grandfather Thror was killed, you remember, in the Mines of Moria by Azog the Goblin."... "Curse his name, yes.' said Thorin" The Hobbit, "An Unexpected Party" ... "Thereupon Azog came forth, and he was a great Orc with a huge iron-clad head, and yet agile and strong. With him came many like him, the fighters of his guard, and as they engaged Náin's company he turned to Náin, and said: 'What? Yet another beggar at my doors? Must I brand you too?' With that he rushed at Náin and they fought. But Náin was half blind with rage, and also very weary with battle, whereas Azog was fresh and fell and full of guile. Soon Náin made a great stroke with all his strength that remained, but Azog darted aside and kicked Náin's leg, so that the mattock splintered on the stone where he had stood, but Náin stumbled forward. Then Azog with a swift swing hewed his neck. His mail-collar withstood the edge, but so heavy was the blow that Náin's neck was broken and he fell. Then Azog laughed, and he lifted up his head to let forth a great yell of triumph; but the cry died in his throat. For he saw that all his host in the valley was in a rout, and the Dwarves went this way and that slaying as they would, and those that could escape from them were flying south, shrieking as they ran. And hard by all the soldiers of his guard lay dead. He turned and fled back towards the Gate. Up the steps after him leaped a Dwarf with a red axe. It was Dáin Ironfoot, Náin's son. Right before the doors he caught Azog, and there he slew him, and hewed off his head." ... "....and they were led by Bolg, son of that Azog whom Dáin slew in his youth." Bolg of the North, son of Azog would have been far better choice for the nemesis of Thorin, as it would give the villain an interesting motivation, revenge for the death of his father (as well as wanting the piece of treasure etc.). Regarding the Men, they actually have their own struggles and their own problems, even in the Third Age when the stories take place they are becoming more and more numerous thay also have great realms of their own (especially Gondor), though even at the times of The Hobbit it's glory is long past. AS for the TRolls, there are several different breeds: Mountain-trolls, Cave-trolls, Hill-trolls, Stone-trolls and possibly though it's unclear they may be legendary Snow-trolls. When it comes to the Ringwraiths the Nazgul, they in the book never died, actually their Ring provided them with a sort of cursed immortality, their Rings extended their lives indefinitely so they never died or were buried, that's one of the changes done for the movies which didn't make much sense.
Whatever you may say about the hobbit movies measuring up to the lotr trilogy, the casting of Martin Freeman as Bilbo is brilliant and well worth the full watch
I will never get the hate these films got, and it was always the book nerds that unnecessarily hated on it. I loved the book and enjoyed the films (just two versions of a story I love, simple as that), a lot of effort went into them so people could at least show some respect instead of jumping on the hate bandwagon.
I don't hate these films, but they're disappointing. There are many great things, scenes and actors in them. BUT, there's also many unnecessary things. Their biggest flaw is how unbalanced they feel.
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Some of the things these movies don’t mention is why Gandalf has a friendship with the Eagles. He saved the Eagle leader from a arrow. The Eagles are in his debt.
i honestly prefer these movies because they had the chance to cover the whole book (lotr's cut a lot) and every scene has something happening so it doesn't lose my attention as easy (i may be biased since it's also my favorite book but i love these movies and the extended version is worth the time)
The best scene in movie is obviously the Riddles in the Dark scenes However they clearly made Gollum like what he was in Lord of the Rings as in part comic relief as well as making him have major split personality conflict that he had in the LOTR movies where as in the Hobbit book he is just a creepy obstacle that Bilbo has to overcome
Gandalf got Bilbo because his mother’s side is a Took. His mother was adventurous. His father was more stable and didn’t like adventures. The Dwarves are 13 which is an unlucky number. Bilbo makes 14 which makes it less unlucky. He is like the lucky number.
The theatrical versions of these movies are better than the extended cuts. Even though these movies aren’t as good as the Lord of the Rings movies, I still like them.
I watched Th Hobbit when it came out, but I hadn't seen lord of the rings because my mom tried to force me to read the books first, and those.... those some big books, so I hadn't seen them until very very recently (within the last month), and I never understood why people dissed these movies, I absolutely LOVED them. Then ten minutes into the first lord of the rings I was like "Oh, yeah, COMPARED to the lord of the rings. I see now"
Elrond is a lord. He has a right to the High Kingship of the Noldor within Middle earth( the other High King of the Noldor reigns in the Undying Lands) but he chooses not to claim it. Thranduil is the king of the elven kingdom of Mirkwood whose population consists avarin elves ruled by a foreign sindarin elite. In other words Thranduil and Legolas are Sindarin but the people they rule are genetically Avarin but culturally Sindarized people. These movies oversiplified things. For instance Elrond and Thranduil are both seperate, soveriegn entities but Thorin treats them the same as though what lies between him and Thranduil would effect what may happen between him and Elrond. In the book there was no issue about going to Rivendell.
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It may seem like an unrelated thing, but Gandalf was afraid that Sauron would eventually become strong enough to resume his war against the free people of Middle Earth and convince Smaug to ally with him. So killing him and getting the dwarves back into their kingdom was an important part of his strategy to protect Middle Earth.
Thorin's sword Orcrist and Gandalf's sword Glamdring should also have that same glow that Sting does when orcs draw near. Its something Gondolin elves could work into their weapons, but its sorta ancient. Although I totally understand why they didn't go with that in the movies - too many glowing swords might have been too much in these movies when the three prominent characters have swords that are obviously glowy/magicky
I actually enjoy these movies, nothing will ever top LOTR or be exactly like the books but they are still really enjoyable.
It's not as if the Hobbit book is better than Lord of the Rings, either.
Same here 😁
Same. "It was the start of an unlikely friendship that has lasted all my life." --Bilbo Baggins The Hobbit
Well as Frodo himself said, his journey was a lot more different than Bilbo's. Bilbo's journey was to discover the world outside of shire, Frodo's journey was to thrive past the conjuring evil bent on taking over the world.
@@Corn_Pone_Flicksi'd say it's a matter of taste
In Tolkien’s world, spiders are all descended from ungoliant. The giant spider that was spawned out of void that eats light and vomits darkness. So when radagast the brown says “dark creatures” it’s because they are literally dark creatures
Oh ok...I just thought he hated spiders lmao
Ungoliant also allied with Sauron's master Morgoth and together they destroyed light from the world. And then Ungoliant turned against Morgoth and nearly devoured him as well! It took SEVERAL Balrogs to make Ungoliant flee. Let all that sink in.
I love how they emphasize the fact that Hobbits are SO much smaller than dwarves! The acting is amazing in these movies.
I personally love these films. I think Peter Jackson faced a very difficult challenge when he decided to make The Hobbit AFTER making Lord of the Rings. You had to try and satisfy both people who grew up on the book and wanted to see that, and people whose only knowledge of Middle-Earth came from his earlier trilogy and wanted something comparable, and I think he did well in the circumstances. I actually prefer these films to the book-they feel more tonally consistent with LOTR and also get into more backstory and lore that could only be found in the appendices to the books. Tolkien himself actually had to re-write the meeting between Bilbo and Gollum after LOTR was published because it didn't mesh well...originally, Gollum gave Bilbo the ring as a prize for winning the riddle game, but after deciding the ring was evil and held such a grip on its bearer, that didn't work anymore and so he completely re-wrote that chapter and re-published the book.
By the way, the Ringwraiths are ancient and were around since before Sauron was defeated by Isildur. They remained in Middle-earth the whole time in between; the Witch King was actually king of Angmar AFTER having become a wraith. No one knows what land he had been king of back when he was human.
Me too
I just want to point out that Gimili's Dad is in this company and so is the the dwarf who's grave they found in Moria (Balin). This is why Gimili and Gandalf react as they do.
Martin Freeman is the PERFECT Bilbo
Absolutely!
Elves and dwarves were nor really "enemies", but there was a lot of mistrust between them going back thousands of years to things that happened in the First Age, but again, that's another story from another book. So is the origin of the large spiders in Middle-Earth, they are descendants of an evil spirit from the first age. Also, the Nazgul were around a long time before this. Men had great kingdoms in the northern regions, but were defeated by the Witch King and mostly destroyed hundreds of years before this.. Weathertop is one of many ruins left from that Kingdom. I'll try to stop editing in lore before my paragraph gets too big, Yeah, the lore is super deep.
Well, tell us, I love that kinda stuff
For real tho, its interesting so no worries about the length unless its a bish for you to type ofcourse haha!
@@InternalOptimal as far as I know the dunedain rangers like aragorn were in the area because they were still defending the lands of the old kingdom. They keep the shire pure.
@@whitenoisereacts The spiders in Mirkwood were descended from Shelob, the giant spider Frodo and Sam meet. Shelob was the last spawn of Ungoliant, an evil spirit that was allied with Sauron's master Melkor way back near the beginning of the world. Ungoliant poisoned the two trees of light (the basis for the sun and moon) but some of the light was preserved and after millennia, a bit of it ended up in the little glass phial Galadriel gives to Frodo, which, of course, helps save them from Ungoliant's last child. Tolkien loved those sort of full-circle storylines. The sword Merry uses to stab the Witch-King in the leg had originally been made in the northern kingdom for the wars against Angmar, where the Witch-King ruled, so in a way it finally served its purpose at the siege of Gondor.
@@whitenoisereacts well, for one thing, the dwarves were not the creation of Eru Illuvatar (aka Tolkiens God), but of Aule, the Vala of crafting and smithing.
They were blessed with life and sort of "adopted" by Eru Illuvatar, but put to sleep until after the awakening of Elves and men.
I belive that the dwarves hace always been considered, and considered them selves, outsiders, without a real place or context.
This, along with all the other grudge and tension between Elves and dwarves (such as the situation with Smaug and the fall of Erebor among other things) was always going to infect the relationships between dwarves, elves and men
I honestly love the Hobbit so much, Martin Freeman is great in this trilogy ✨🧝♂️🧙
I love the scene at the dinner at Bilbo's home when that dwarf eats an entire egg. They were playing as the scene was being shot, and their joy is true. They thought he could not catch the egg 🤣🤣🤣
Fun fact: Tolkien had his own specific definitions for Witches and Wizards. In Middle Earth ‘Witch’ is another word for Wraith, so that’s why the leader of the Nazgul is the ‘Witch-King of Angmar’. So when Radagast says it’s ‘Witchcraft’ it’s literally accurate since he’s sensing the presence of the Nazgul in Dol-Guldur
My favorite thing about the trolls is that you see them in the extended version of the Fellowship of the Ring and just...such a fun little thread.
Martin Freeman made these movies for me - I just adore him and fell in love with him as Watson. These are not great movies but I love this world so that makes up for a lot.
The Nazgul were quietly active for millenia. Its only in this film where they have escaped their sealed tombs.
Idk i like these films. They are funny, sad and they have lots of action. Also Martin Freeman is really great as Bilbo. And the ending... i cry every time.
Well yea they could've done the story in 2 films. You got that point.
I've been to Hobbiton and I can confirm that it just takes your breath away! Really just transports you into Middle-Earth. I my have shed a few tears there haha
Definitely want to go someday!!
I thing New Zealand it's a paradise on earth
Even though I don’t like the movies themselves, I think Martin Freeman did a great job of taking over the character of Bilbo in my mind
I agree however I wish we still could have seen Ian Holm as young Bilbo in the Hobbit
I love Martin Freeman as Bilbo but Holm had a magic about him
"More shire is more shire"- Mr. Incredible
@Liam Bradley why everyone hates 3:rd movie. Its my favorite hobbit movie althought still like every hobbit movie
LoTR had a few major Director flaws, which could have been improved with a better director (nonetheless, its a good movie based on a great story/world). The Hobbit series was much worse. The first movie was good enough. the second was mediocre at best. The third was near trash. The problem with the hobbit, especially the last of them ( @onni ruusunen ) is it's sensationalistic rubbish designed for nothing but a corporate profit-grab on an end-of-life franchise. Peter Jackson definitely does not deserve the credit he's blessed with. With the huge budget he has for these movies, the huge support, and the amazing source material already developed and ready to be utilized, any decent director could have produced the same results. peter jackson was simply there to do the job and nearly botched it several times (and did with the Hobbit's later two movies). love the material, but don't think jackson contributed anything to its greatness or success. it succeeded despite him, not because of him.
this is a great cast that gets railroaded by a poor project, unfortunately
There is nothing like watching the reactions of people watching something I hold so dear!! Great video as always!
Pity that you guys couldn't get ahold of the extended edition. Just a few good character beats are added in this movie. Btw, the elder Bilbo is played by Ian Holm, another great British thespian who was in lots of movies, including Alien. Martin Freeman does a great job incorporating some of his mannerisms, like you all agreed.
And you're right, in the books all the swords made in Gondolin by the Noldor in the First Age glow blue when orcs are near.
Thanks, I'm enjoying your Middle Earth movie reactions (both trilogies) - and hope you get to visit Hobbiton in NZ sometime.
Definitely!!
Are you kidding me? Extended edition!? For this!? The theatrical release alone is so f*cking long and boring and terrible and you want to extend these three's suffering!? Are you a sadist?
@@cashewnuttel9054 Someone clearly has a biased opinion. Not everyone has the same feelings bro
@@tessapitts835 These movies are a bore and that's a fact. Don't like my opinion? Too bad. You and your ilk are the reason why there is nothing good in movies and TV shows nowadays.
@@cashewnuttel9054 Dude calm down 😂 Just because it doesn’t live up to your self proclaimed ‘standards’ doesn’t mean it isn’t a good movie
One of the details that makes me absolutely love tolkien's writing style is poetic symmetry, the detail that bilbo's hoard of food is disturbed by the dwarves, and smaug's hoard was encroached upon by dwarves trying to reclaim one treasure over everything else, the selfish desire presented from two poles of passive and entirely destructive, and foreshadowing what they have in common being one of the qualities that spares bilbo being incinerated almost instantly, he appeals to his ego and genuinely intrigues him, just like gandalf does to convince bilbo to go on the journey
I love this film. 🥰🥰🥰🥰
The Hobbit was great! 😇😇😇😇
It's amazing that Elijah Wood was 17 years older in the into, but doesn't look any different to the first LOTR film.
liking every video and keeping my notifications on so i can watch the vlog in hobbiton when you guys reach a million subs
Ur are the GOAT
Me too!!
A lot of people give these movies flak and all but like as movies on their own they're pretty guud.
I do know that in the extended editions there is a deleted scene why the riff between elves and dwarves grew, Smaug getting hit by an arrow, Bilbo finds the sword of Isildur, Gandalf and the white council talk about the seven dwatf rings, and the Goblins sing a song for the prisoners.
I freaking love your massive fanboy grins at how epic these movies are. Makes me happy
Guys, I love that you're giving these movies a chance!!!!
I LOVE these movies, I've read the book so many times and it is my dream to one day visit New Zealand where Hobbiton was inspired.
Hope you guys are well and have fun on this adventure! For home is no behind you, Middle-Earth is ahead
'Older' Bilbo was played by Ian Holm who sadly died last year.
Oh...RIP Ian Holms
True. Smaug is the best thing about these films.
Benedict Cumberbatch is great as Smaug
Real talk, the film-makers had a challenge that Tolkien never had. When Tolkien wrote the hobbit, it wasn’t even really in the same canon as his Silmarillion material, it was a simple fairytale in a self-contained little fantasy world. It was only when he wrote Lord of the Rings that he connected his grand epic scope with this little tale. It’s all very well to say ‘Peter Jackson should have just made a fun fairytale’ but that’s not really possible when you’re setting it in the same world as the LOTR movies, and certainly the producers were never going to let him do that. It had to be lavish, that’s what people responded to in the original movies, and really it was the only way the Hobbit was going to be made.
My mother made me read the book before I watched this as a child, and I’m so glad she did. The movies were really a bloodless version of a great and charming book.
Yeah, I mean Martin Freeman is great in it and they have some value, but they don’t hold up to LOTR
@@whitenoisereacts Its kind of unfair of some people to expect them to do so as The Hobbit is a bedtime story for children, while LOTR were written for adults.
@fee foo I don't think the both trilogy were supposed to give same vibes. I think Bilbo's journey was more about to discover what's actually outside of shire while Frodo's journey is all about a quest to fight off evil before it consumes his homeland.
During these movies I find it to be better in the extended version and not just because it's longer but also because sometimes the vanilla movies just skip some things that make sense in the narrative.
I didn't knew they are extended versions of The Hobbit movies 😱
I thought the regular Hobbit movies were the extended movies since they’re so damn drawn out lmao like there was absolutely no reason to make three long ass movies out of one not-that-long book
Already giggling at the beginning with you guys😊 Totally agree, smaug is excellent *chiefs kiss*
15:05 the in universe explanation is that those spiders are LITERALLY descendent from an ACTUAL SPAWN OF EVILNESS the spider god ungoliant, so yeah
but out of context that is pretty hilarious that radagast is just like: "fuck spiders" lol
I love these movies definitely ain't no LOTR but I still love the world it builds and the characters and lore it has
Azog is an large gundabad orc. Possibly the largest so far.
Also where Azog stood that was Weathertop.
The conflict between dwarves and elves were like a Rollercoaster ride. They did sometimes were kind and respectable to one another but thing issues happen
I actually met James Nesbit who plays one of the dwarves about 20 years ago when he came to my school to pick up his niece who was in my year & still friends with today. Also know his sister, they live in my village still to this day. Lovely people
There are SO many important scenes in the extended versions. More than in LOTR. I hope you watch them sometime
I never understood why Azog is the main villain for most of these films because in the book Azog was killed in the Battle of Azanulbizar as he was injured by Thorin but slain by Dain Ironfoot so I always thought wouldn’t it have been better story telling to have his son Bolg (who is in these movies) seeking revenge for his father rather than Azog just wanting revenge for his arm
In the book the orcs or Goblins as they’re referred to in the Hobbit book aren’t really seen to have a leader until they’re in the Battle of the Five Armies where they’re lead by Bolg
So this and the Strider name drop are the most annoying additions to the films as they make no sense at all as Azog should be dead and Aragorn should be ten years old
Aragorn would be twenty-seven at this time. He's 87 in Lord of the Rings, and this is 60 years earlier. As for the inclusion of Azog, I would guess it's because the battle of Azanulbizar was a major event in recent Dwarvish history, but there would be no real motive to include it if it didn't have some immediate relevance to the events happening at present. Besides, I can't for a moment believe that any orc really gives a damn about avenging family...trying to picture sentiment of any kind in orcs as they're portrayed here really doesn't feel right at all.
@@Corn_Pone_Flicks no it’s actually 77 years from this story to when we meet Aragorn in LOTR
because it’s 60 years from the Hobbit to Bilbos birthday and then 17 years go by from when Gandalf goes to research about the ring to the point when Frodo buys a house outside of Hobbiton leaving Bag End to the Sackville Baggins and leaves Hobbiton for his mission to get to the Prancing Pony to meet Gandalf and this is where the four Hobbits meet an 87 year old Strider
In those 17 years Gandalf is coming going from the Shire making sure both Frodo and the Ring are safe and along with Frodo carefully planning how Frodo will leave Hobbiton
So Aragorn is 10 during the Hobbit, 70 when Bilbo turns 111 and Frodo turns 33 (they share a birthday) and Aragorn is 87 when he’s on the quest to Mount Doom
You don’t really get to see that it’s 17 years from just watching the films as they can’t take as long as the books to tell a story and visually you can’t see it because characters like Frodo don’t age in the films because Elijah Wood was only 18 years old when filming began (a young looking 18 year old) despite this Frodo was 33 at the beginning of the story and during the quest he was 50 years old which is the same age as Bilbo when he began his adventure with him turning 51 during the course of the story
It makes me sad to as Azog achieved his goal. He ended his line.
@@JOVONO Well you kinda just solved the issues there as it makes sense in the context the movies could give us.
@@salvadoroars I think the book has far greater meaning with Thorin’s death truly demonstrating just the harshness of war as it isn’t specified who kills him he just dies from all his injuries he attained during the Battle of the Five Armies
The last we see of Thorin before Bilbo gets knocked out was him downplaying Bilbo’s bravery and going off to war and then the battle ends and after awakening from being knocked out Bilbo is brought to see Thorin where he gives us his final words of "If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world. But, sad or merry, I must leave it now. Farewell."
I think this less over the top death has far greater weight to it than the film death
This is weird O_O
Nick really looks like Eomer everytime I look at him
I wish this trilogy had shown the love and care given to LOTR, but the cast is good.
Freeman and Armitage killed it as Bilbo and Thorin. Especially in TBOTFA.
Everything about them was perfect.
I also appreciate the fact that they looked to LOTR, rather than The Hobbit novel, when creating the dwarves.
As quirky as they were, they still had some Gimli-style dignity
I love An unexpected Journey, the other two are waaaay to long and to much all over the place.
This should have been a two part, and not another trilogy, I mean, come on, the novel is what, 2-300 pages long??
That beeing said, I'm so glad that both Freeman and Armitage really understood how important the relationship between Bilbo and Thorin was to Tolkien himself.
While def having some flaws, the relationship between Bilbo and Thorin alone is enought to watch this movie.
The misty mountain song make you want to smoke weed and grow a beard 🤣😂👍🏼
Yes!
It makes me grow a beard and I'm a woman hahaha
@@Ahonya666you and me both girl! I got the smoke part down just need the beard 😂
I love the first hour and the whole "Far Over the Misty Mountains" thing, but then I just get REALLY annoyed by the rest of it! Hope you all enjoy it though :)
Lol, fair enough
The brown Wizard is played by the 7th Doctor from Doctor Who, Sylvester McCoy.
The fan cuts of these movies are awesome!
I hope they include the part right after this when Gandalf says that Bilbo gives him courage :)
Great job man, looking forward to reliving this series..the title songs are great for each movie
You spoke about Elrond: in fact he would have the right to call himself king but he never wanted to be one.
these movies are so good
Not all of the films were made in NZ. Both Sir Ian Holm and Sir Christopher Lee were unable to make the journey so Peter Jackson filmed their bits on green screen in London at Pinewood studios, then integrated them into the film.
As an aside, this flashback battle did happen in the books but the events around it were different. After they lost the mountain, Thror, the old king, eventually lost his marbles and walked into Moria on his own with only a single companion waiting outside for him. Azog killed him and tossed his head out the doors with his name carved into his brow. Thorin's father Thrain, went into a rage and not only rallied the shattered people of Erebor but the other six houses of the Dwarves (of with Erebor was only one). They then went through a seven-year-long war to eradicate all the orcs of the misty mountain which culminated in a massive battle outside of the gates of Moria called the battle of Azanulbizar. It was a complete horror story and half of the remaining strength of all the dwarven race died fighting but they managed to kill Azog in that battle and all but eradicate the orcs of the Misty Mountains...for a while. Fun fact, Azog was killed by Dain Ironfoot, Thorin's cousin who was the equivalent of a tween at the time. He managed to chase Azog down when the bugger was fleeing back into Moria. Thrain wanted to take Moria but the other houses refused and the contingent led by Dain wouldn't because he had gotten close enough to see the Balrog waiting inside for anyone foolish enough to try to enter.
Then again I could see Thror trying to take Moria like that it would be something he might have tried in his mental state.
All time favourite series :)
btw can y'all watch euphoria? Its a great show, won a bunch of emmys + crazy cinematography. its also legitimately the only show i've seen that accurately portrays gen z lives
Martin Freeman (Bilbo) and Benedict Cumberbatch (Smaug) were both in the newest Sherlock series.
The grumpy dwarf Gloin, who has leather barrettes holding his mustache, is Gimli's dad.
I think (and this is especially in the extended versions) crucial as an add-on to Lord of the Rings. It shows of a lot of the back story and things that even in the books were somewhat unclear and obscured. Like how Gandalf is the keeper of one of the 3 elven rings. How Thorin's father had one of the 7 dwarven rings and it was taken by force from him in Dol Guldur (both of these details only show up in the extended version if memory serves). It also shows how Saruman kept the council in the dark about the fate of the one ring which he was already searching for at that time.
Sorry I've been gone for a while. I am back!!! Also, well done on 21k. (don't forget us oldies as you gain more fans) Hope you are well.
I thought u left!!! Good to have you back ;)
@@whitenoisereacts I took a break from social media. I am back.... Happy to see you are building a fanbase. you deserve it!!!
Just a point that I’m going to make. Saruman was always power hungry and potentially evil at least by the hobbit books. He may have come into middle earth in order to defend against Sauron, but eventually succumbed to his own desires and wants. He was actively, seeking to obtain the one ring, even now in the hobbit for his own purposes.
During the war of the Ring, he even went so far as to lie to his allies servants (ringwraiths) about his knowledge of the Shire and where it was as we saw in the extended edition that Merry and Pippin both found Shire pipe-weed in Saruman’s storehouse. Which meant that Saruman had been actively invested in the Shire long before the war of the Ring.
Also explains why he was actively part of what called the scourging of the Shire, which is in fact, the final battle of the war of the ring it ultimately ends in the exact same manner as the movie in the fact that Grima wormtongue stabs Saruman after he is defeated, and then shot by arrows, fact that this happens after Merry and Pippin, and Frodo and Sam return to the Shire that has been turned into a desolate wasteland, essentially what Frodo saw in Galadriel’s Mirror really did happen in the books.
Anyway that is all I was going to say on the subject of Saruman and his evil intentions to the West
Ian Holm actually voiced Frodo 40 years ago in the 1981 BBC radio 13 hour long adaptation of LoTR.
21:51
In the book Gandalf was investigating the appearance of the necromancer. The necromancer would be later identified as Sauron and his ring wraths.
You know.
I always thought Gandalf and Albus Dumbledore would have gotten along very well! They both have an affinity to mysterious replies when talking to others 🤣❤️❤️
Regardless of how close or far The Hobbit movies are from the book, I still find them really enjoyable as just a good, fun adventure. The music is still great, the action is still great, it has one of the coolest dragons I've ever seen, and even though he's not even alive in the book, I really love Azog as a villain
Elven swords and knives glow blue when orcs are near
i bought the blueray extended edition for lotr and the hobbit for like 85 bucks because, It's still pretty nice to have a physical dvd for a movie you rlly like.
Yeah, one day I want to build a movie collection like that
The dwarves in the lotr weren't hiding in the mountains they held their lands against a giant campaign by sauron.
Atleast the Lonely Mountain dwarves. Not sure if other Dwarf kingdoms were attacked.
@@RabbitShirak dain w9uld have been considered king of kings so I assume the rest of the dwarves were either prrpped for an invasion or defending the lonely mountains.
@@snugglecity3500 true, but there's also a matter of if they had time even to gather forces from other dwarf colonies. War around the Lonely mountain I think was left pretty vague.
@@RabbitShirak i believe it was only mentioned in 3 lines
I love the Hobbit ❤️ I'll literally rewatch the movies multiple times in a row 😂😁👌🤪
And, not only do the wizards oversee each species, each kingdom is strategically located so that toogether they lock in Mordor. So as I understand it when Smaug took the dwarves that essentially opened a hole in the wall around Mordor, and that;s why trolls and orcs and monsters and stuff are on the rise thrloughout all the lands. All the other wizards responded to this by making their people more militant. So Gandolg took upon himself to fight Smaug...by manipulating Thorin and Bilbo into doing it for him, I mean by teaching Thorin and Bilbo to be adventurous and daring.
I have been to Hobbiton. I went to New Zealand with my sister and brother in May of 2019 and we got to visit Hobbiton and have a drink of ale at the Green Dragon. It was so much fun and so cool. I think you can get the extend edition as digital copies when you by the extend edition Dvd/blu ray but not 100% sure.
It is sad Frodo how old allegiances can be lost and for what? Scoff.
I’m just so jealous!!!
Thrór had one of the Seven Dwarven Rings. That's why he fell to the sickness of gold.
Someone needs to mention how every mention of Sauron in this movie is not in the books, since all of that should have been forgotten by the time of lotr movies. If there was mention of Sauron Gandalf would not have taken 50 years to realize that was the one ring.
I just watched the Cardinal recut of The Hobbit trilogy last weekend. It was great, definitely recommend watching that one instead of all three...
While I do agree with you that when Saruman is talking that all the things he mentions add up to a lot (of course we know he was working with Sauron, but it wasn't known at the time), I can also see why he would be worried about what the dwarves were trying to do. Smaug was the last of the "great" dragons and he might be worried about what would happen if he woke up and wasn't killed quickly.
In The Hobbit book Azog is actually long dead and it is his son Bolg, who is the leader of the Orcs(Goblins). Orcs and Goblins are just two terms for the same type of being and they of course can vary in size, the larger and stronger Orcs are usually leaders and chieftains:
"The goblins gathered again in the valley. There a host of Wargs came ravening and with them came the bodyguard of Bolg, goblins of huge size with scimitars of steel."
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"Your grandfather Thror was killed, you remember, in the Mines of Moria by Azog the Goblin."... "Curse his name, yes.' said Thorin" The Hobbit, "An Unexpected Party"
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"Thereupon Azog came forth, and he was a great Orc with a huge iron-clad head, and yet agile and strong. With him came many like him, the fighters of his guard, and as they engaged Náin's company he turned to Náin, and said:
'What? Yet another beggar at my doors? Must I brand you too?' With that he
rushed at Náin and they fought. But Náin was half blind with rage, and also very weary with battle, whereas Azog was fresh and fell and full of guile. Soon Náin made a great stroke with all his strength that remained, but Azog darted aside and kicked Náin's leg, so that the mattock splintered on the stone where he had stood, but Náin stumbled forward. Then Azog with a swift swing hewed his neck.
His mail-collar withstood the edge, but so heavy was the blow that Náin's neck
was broken and he fell.
Then Azog laughed, and he lifted up his head to let forth a great yell of
triumph; but the cry died in his throat. For he saw that all his host in the valley was in a rout, and the Dwarves went this way and that slaying as they would, and those that could escape from them were flying south, shrieking as they ran. And hard by all the soldiers of his guard lay dead. He turned and fled back towards the Gate. Up the steps after him leaped a Dwarf with a red axe. It was Dáin Ironfoot, Náin's son. Right before the doors he caught Azog, and there he slew him, and
hewed off his head."
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"....and they were led by Bolg, son of that Azog whom Dáin slew in his
youth."
Bolg of the North, son of Azog would have been far better choice for the nemesis of Thorin, as it would give the villain an interesting motivation, revenge for the death of his father (as well as wanting the piece of treasure etc.).
Regarding the Men, they actually have their own struggles and their own problems, even in the Third Age when the stories take place they are becoming more and more numerous thay also have great realms of their own (especially Gondor), though even at the times of The Hobbit it's glory is long past. AS for the TRolls, there are several different breeds: Mountain-trolls, Cave-trolls, Hill-trolls, Stone-trolls and possibly though it's unclear they may be legendary Snow-trolls. When it comes to the Ringwraiths the Nazgul, they in the book never died, actually their Ring provided them with a sort of cursed immortality, their Rings extended their lives indefinitely so they never died or were buried, that's one of the changes done for the movies which didn't make much sense.
Yeah that cool. I like that they used some of the lore from the books even if they had to extend the story
Whatever you may say about the hobbit movies measuring up to the lotr trilogy, the casting of Martin Freeman as Bilbo is brilliant and well worth the full watch
I will never get the hate these films got, and it was always the book nerds that unnecessarily hated on it. I loved the book and enjoyed the films (just two versions of a story I love, simple as that), a lot of effort went into them so people could at least show some respect instead of jumping on the hate bandwagon.
i agree
I don't hate these films, but they're disappointing. There are many great things, scenes and actors in them. BUT, there's also many unnecessary things. Their biggest flaw is how unbalanced they feel.
Kili is my favourite dwarf 🌌💖
"Blunt the knives" is my second favourite song. "Song of Durin" is my favourite. "Misty Mountains Cold" is a damn close third!
Some of the things these movies don’t mention is why Gandalf has a friendship with the Eagles. He saved the Eagle leader from a arrow. The Eagles are in his debt.
Smaug isn't a dragon. He's a Wyvern, a cousin of the dragon. Wyverns have two legs and two wings, dragons have four legs and two wings.
Nice Nick wore elf hair.
You should watch the extended versions of the other two movies. Especially the Battle Of Five Armies.
In September, I will have Weta workshop´s new Smaug in my collection :D
Whaaaat So jealous
@@whitenoisereacts go to their webpage & search smaug, they have one labeled new, its still on pre order :)
i honestly prefer these movies because they had the chance to cover the whole book (lotr's cut a lot) and every scene has something happening so it doesn't lose my attention as easy (i may be biased since it's also my favorite book but i love these movies and the extended version is worth the time)
ow no i hope you'll react to the extended edition.. it is so different..
I believe that this is the extended edition.
@@GilroyGoldBlood These aren’t the special editions, they say it at the beginning of the video
I guess I'm an idiot.
The best scene in movie is obviously the Riddles in the Dark scenes
However they clearly made Gollum like what he was in Lord of the Rings as in part comic relief as well as making him have major split personality conflict that he had in the LOTR movies where as in the Hobbit book he is just a creepy obstacle that Bilbo has to overcome
Gandalf got Bilbo because his mother’s side is a Took. His mother was adventurous. His father was more stable and didn’t like adventures. The Dwarves are 13 which is an unlucky number. Bilbo makes 14 which makes it less unlucky. He is like the lucky number.
The theatrical versions of these movies are better than the extended cuts. Even though these movies aren’t as good as the Lord of the Rings movies, I still like them.
I watched Th Hobbit when it came out, but I hadn't seen lord of the rings because my mom tried to force me to read the books first, and those.... those some big books, so I hadn't seen them until very very recently (within the last month), and I never understood why people dissed these movies, I absolutely LOVED them. Then ten minutes into the first lord of the rings I was like "Oh, yeah, COMPARED to the lord of the rings. I see now"
Great video! I really enjoyed your reactions
There is a different film quality to the Hobbit compared to LOTR... But I chalk it up to The Hobbit being a memory and LOTR is more of a history.
The second Dwarf song sounds like Ulver.
Martin Freeman is gold!
You don't know the actor playing old Bilbo? He is a VERY RESPECTED ACTOR.
Elrond is a lord. He has a right to the High Kingship of the Noldor within Middle earth( the other High King of the Noldor reigns in the Undying Lands) but he chooses not to claim it. Thranduil is the king of the elven kingdom of Mirkwood whose population consists avarin elves ruled by a foreign sindarin elite. In other words Thranduil and Legolas are Sindarin but the people they rule are genetically Avarin but culturally Sindarized people. These movies oversiplified things. For instance Elrond and Thranduil are both seperate, soveriegn entities but Thorin treats them the same as though what lies between him and Thranduil would effect what may happen between him and Elrond. In the book there was no issue about going to Rivendell.
Thranduil's people are silvan not avarin.
@@KumarAyushman2006 I thought the silvan fell under the umbrella of avarin. Unless theyre just offshoots of the telerin migration.
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There’s a 60 year gap between the events of The Hobbit and the start of LOTR
i've always thought that the 3 trolls have the 3 stooges personalities...
4:48 the problems between elves and dwarves not started here, started thousands of years before! In fact, this moment doesn't really happen
It may seem like an unrelated thing, but Gandalf was afraid that Sauron would eventually become strong enough to resume his war against the free people of Middle Earth and convince Smaug to ally with him. So killing him and getting the dwarves back into their kingdom was an important part of his strategy to protect Middle Earth.
I actually love these movies.
Please react to the Rankin Bass version of The Hobbit!
Please guys, watch the extended editions for the next two (especially the third one, the movie is 10 times better with the extended scenes)
We are!! No worries
Thorin's sword Orcrist and Gandalf's sword Glamdring should also have that same glow that Sting does when orcs draw near. Its something Gondolin elves could work into their weapons, but its sorta ancient. Although I totally understand why they didn't go with that in the movies - too many glowing swords might have been too much in these movies when the three prominent characters have swords that are obviously glowy/magicky
Smoking a tobacco pipe while watching a Hobbit reaction seemed fitting so I did