Audi's engineers have been genial when designed the R8. It has redefined the Sportscar meaning not only due to its performance, but also thanks to the engineering approach. Before of the Audi R8 LMP1 it was unthinkable to change the gearbox and the whole rear axle in few minutes! It was impossible also for Formula 1 teams! Many rivals complained about this and ACO changed the rules. I don't agree with federation's response, because there was nothing wrong or illegal in this Audi peculiarity. You cannot penalize engineers and team because they've had a so brilliant idea! R8 has won a wide number of races because it was a wonderful car: fast, reliable, smart, a easy to manage. It could be considered as the 956/962 of the new millennium. Love it!
i would argue that the decision of banning gearbox changes was not completely without a good reason, not allowing to change the gearbox means that you have to build that thing to last 24 hours at peak revs and maximum power, Wich is nuts but i agree is not enough of a reason imo the better solution would be having 1 extra complete gearbox as a spare for both cars and spare gearbox parts too so if one of the cars bust its gearbox, it gets replaced quicky and then the busted gearbox have to be fixed in the case that the other car blows its gearbox too i would argue that its a good strategy for other parts like engine and suspension exept for tires and brakes
I think it was mostly because changing the whole rear axle is very, very expensive and most teams couldn't hold up economicaly, while Audi basically had unlimited budget for that kind of heavy, overkill repairs, and that is not fair
@@mickael_guitara you are going into Le Mans, one of the Top competitions in the world, you dont get into it with Spare change only, for that we got Lemons :v
F1 teams can do it as fast, if not faster. The reason they can't do it in F1 race(Besides regulations) is simply down to the race distance. F1 races only take 90 mins, so a 6 min gearbox change is going to ruin you in F1.
that's generally how all rule changes work. when you're so good at something that no one else can hope to match you then a rule get's made stopping you from doing that thing. the audi engineers must have treated themselves to the tallest pint of beer you've ever seen each time a rule got changed because of them.
This also happened in F1. The only time I remember happening was in 2005(don't mind my teen arse). Ferrari was winning too much, so in 2005, I believe FIA made it so you can't change tyres in the middle of the race, with the exception of changing weather and punctures. And it worked, with Fernando Alonso and Renault winning the 2005 season.
To do that work TWICE in 6 minutes and under was mind blowing- Audi was and is that damn good. Being from Atlanta I was a Panoz diehard !!! Still proud of 20 minutes for their rear end change and DAMN, what a race it was. Legendary !!
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Those Panoz were romantic af, I was fascinated by the front-engine layout !
Yep. Changed the rules so that the gearbox casing could not be removed from the car (only the individual gears). Pressure from other teams is what saw the Audi factory team leave the race after 2002 (the last two victories for the R8 were in privateer hands). It's also why the ACO implemented BoP rules, adding larger restrictors (dropping power from 610hp in factory spec down to 520hp in 2005) and larger ballast
@@fw1421 I understand your objection but it must have been costly to engineer a modular rear end and the other teams simply didn't have the money perhaps. Uli Baretsky's diesel was pure genius
@@cagliostro6931 Because the transmission is a structural part of the chassis like an F1 car. So the chassis is changed while changing the transmission.
God still to this day its impressive and awesome. A team a mini family working together and as 1 unit for a team goal.. Seeing this makes me think how incredible this world would be if we all worked together like this team.. look at what its achieved in such a small amount of time... so think how it would be if we all made an effort in life how these guys work together....
Miss time’s like this, the variety of sounds, variety of looks & designs. The reliability and randomness of the races. These days every thing looks and sounds the same, everything is do reliable and predictable
Todays endurance still has variety in sounds, Honda has V6, AMG/Lexus/Bentley/Aston has V8, Audi/Lambo has V10, Ferrari has V12. And they all sound very different. Also look very different. Everything does not look/sound same not even close. Coming hypercar class that replaces LMP1 brings even more variety.
Yeah rules were changed after this cause Audi dis this like 3 times and kinda gave advantage with new parts they knew what they were doing smart as hell
The gearbox is another word for the transmission or the part of the car that translates the high rpm low torque power directly from the engine into higher torque lower rpm to send to the wheels with your different gears. Nitrous is not allowed, but it isn't a magic boost like games make it out to be so its not really a big deal. Different teams ran turbo and NA set ups, the Audi was a 3.2L turbo V8, the Panoz a 6.0L naturally aspirated V8
Yep, the whole idea of winning this race is to prove the customer that the car you are selling is fast and strong enough to last 24 hours at maximum stress and beat the competition in it. This is a total failure made out to be a win...
They didn't change the transmission because of a transmission problem, they changed it because it was faster than switching out all the suspension components that were damaged when the tyre failed.
There has alway's been an unfair advantage at one point or another through time. This applied method was thought up by Reinhold Joest. A few years later he came up with brake and rotor change that only took about 10 minutes or so. Reinhold was a master contingency planner. It was the same general principle. Teams alway's find loopholes in the rules and exploit them. Schnitzer BMW team found a loophole with the GTR M3 and they dropped a much more powerful V8 in the car that ended dominating it's class. Porsche cried fould as the argument was that the V8 wasn't a production run motor at that time. Audi had an unfair advantage in the 1990's with the all wheel drive Quattro. They were underpowered compared to the competition but made up for it big time with the quattro drive. Subsequently the rules changed the following year as they alway's are after such exploits occur. But Audi showed the world what domination is. As the continued to do a decade later with the R8 through the R18 E-tron Quattro. 13 wins in 15 years. Kind of a mikrror of what Porsche di in the 1980's with the 956.
The ones wearing masks are wearing fire proof balaclava's because they are the actual crew that changes tires and does fueling. They wear these incase there is a fuel spill and a fire breaks out to protect their face and hair
I think the whole idea that Audi has won le mans is just not legit, the transmission can’t last 24 hours, therefore your car is no good for a 24 hour endurance race, what’s left for a win?
The issue wasn't the transmission at all. The left rear suspension was damaged after the Michelin tyre failed. Changing the whole rear assembly including transmission is much quicker than replacing only the damaged suspension components.
“I need a new gearbox and brake pads”
“No problem, that’ll be $3000”
“Here you go, how long will this take?”
“Here’s your receipt, your car is ready”
more like $80,000 for that kit back then
Alan Sutherland I think 80.000 are not even close 😂
Imagine the steering wheel is 30.000
Suspension + gearbox+ breaks
Should be over 100.000
@@janfabian411 Brakes*
@@metalguyn I mean, it did break too lol. Typical audi
@@mortenhartvigkristiansen7760 Bruh audi literally dominated 24h lemans what tf u talking about
Can we appreciate the fact that Mario Andretti was 60 years young in the year 2000?
Mario is the icon of Motorsport
No we can't sorry
@@romoalex I'm sorry for ya, mate
Absolute legend
Old. It‘s 60 years old. „young“ just makes you sound weird.
Audi's engineers have been genial when designed the R8. It has redefined the Sportscar meaning not only due to its performance, but also thanks to the engineering approach. Before of the Audi R8 LMP1 it was unthinkable to change the gearbox and the whole rear axle in few minutes! It was impossible also for Formula 1 teams!
Many rivals complained about this and ACO changed the rules. I don't agree with federation's response, because there was nothing wrong or illegal in this Audi peculiarity.
You cannot penalize engineers and team because they've had a so brilliant idea!
R8 has won a wide number of races because it was a wonderful car: fast, reliable, smart, a easy to manage. It could be considered as the 956/962 of the new millennium.
Love it!
i would argue that the decision of banning gearbox changes was not completely without a good reason, not allowing to change the gearbox means that you have to build that thing to last 24 hours at peak revs and maximum power, Wich is nuts
but i agree is not enough of a reason
imo the better solution would be having 1 extra complete gearbox as a spare for both cars and spare gearbox parts too
so if one of the cars bust its gearbox, it gets replaced quicky and then the busted gearbox have to be fixed in the case that the other car blows its gearbox too
i would argue that its a good strategy for other parts like engine and suspension exept for tires and brakes
I think it was mostly because changing the whole rear axle is very, very expensive and most teams couldn't hold up economicaly, while Audi basically had unlimited budget for that kind of heavy, overkill repairs, and that is not fair
@@mickael_guitara you are going into Le Mans, one of the Top competitions in the world, you dont get into it with Spare change only, for that we got Lemons :v
F1 teams can do it as fast, if not faster.
The reason they can't do it in F1 race(Besides regulations) is simply down to the race distance.
F1 races only take 90 mins, so a 6 min gearbox change is going to ruin you in F1.
@@mickael_guitara That's just factualy wrong
Damn if Audi made there passengers cars this easy to work on 😂😂😂
Trueeee
so true i would still have my s4 :(
camilo leon rip bro
No kidding, Audis are fucking horrific to work on
Thats not easy they are fast
Audi is always getting rules changed. It's like other teams cannot come up with the same genius so lets just limit what audi can do.
that's generally how all rule changes work.
when you're so good at something that no one else can hope to match you then a rule get's made stopping you from doing that thing.
the audi engineers must have treated themselves to the tallest pint of beer you've ever seen each time a rule got changed because of them.
Power5 yo Audi, quit hacking
Because a gearbox should last the whole race.
@@Spyker8921 just cry more
This also happened in F1. The only time I remember happening was in 2005(don't mind my teen arse). Ferrari was winning too much, so in 2005, I believe FIA made it so you can't change tyres in the middle of the race, with the exception of changing weather and punctures. And it worked, with Fernando Alonso and Renault winning the 2005 season.
The time le mans still crazy enough
WOW thats now 20 years ago i still can remember watching the race on TV. Man I'm geting old :D
Time is passing lol everyone getting old
To do that work TWICE in 6 minutes and under was mind blowing- Audi was and is that damn good. Being from Atlanta I was a Panoz diehard !!! Still proud of 20 minutes for their rear end change and DAMN, what a race it was. Legendary !!
Those Panoz were romantic af, I was fascinated by the front-engine layout !
What Audi did on both pit stop was brilliant.However,several teams complained about this,and the rules were changed.
Yep. Changed the rules so that the gearbox casing could not be removed from the car (only the individual gears). Pressure from other teams is what saw the Audi factory team leave the race after 2002 (the last two victories for the R8 were in privateer hands). It's also why the ACO implemented BoP rules, adding larger restrictors (dropping power from 610hp in factory spec down to 520hp in 2005) and larger ballast
@ccx806
Yes, and they still won. What a brilliant team it was.
vince065us We can’t do this so let’s cry a lot and they’ll change the rules.😡😡😡
@@fw1421 I understand your objection but it must have been costly to engineer a modular rear end and the other teams simply didn't have the money perhaps. Uli Baretsky's diesel was pure genius
No rewards for innovation. That's what they're supposed to be about.
the mechanic who grabbed the exhaust pipe lol
They have to for this swap. The one of the left also got replaced / removed. Mechanic who did the right one probably wasnt wearing the proper gloves!
Right when he said there is no trauma
Everybody talking about the Audis, of course they're clean and impressive, but man those Panoz were romantic af !
The real racers here are the mechanics. True legends
The gearbox change is now forbidden during the race
Sad
@@MrZerocounter Not really sad, the Theseus' paradox is at play here.
@@SocietyUnplugged how so? the chassis is still unchanged, it is still the same car.
@@cagliostro6931 Because the transmission is a structural part of the chassis like an F1 car. So the chassis is changed while changing the transmission.
Technically the rule is that you can change out the gears but not the bell housing
Wow has it really been 20 years? I remember watching this live
God still to this day its impressive and awesome. A team a mini family working together and as 1 unit for a team goal..
Seeing this makes me think how incredible this world would be if we all worked together like this team.. look at what its achieved in such a small amount of time... so think how it would be if we all made an effort in life how these guys work together....
Miss time’s like this, the variety of sounds, variety of looks & designs. The reliability and randomness of the races. These days every thing looks and sounds the same, everything is do reliable and predictable
Todays endurance still has variety in sounds, Honda has V6, AMG/Lexus/Bentley/Aston has V8, Audi/Lambo has V10, Ferrari has V12. And they all sound very different. Also look very different. Everything does not look/sound same not even close. Coming hypercar class that replaces LMP1 brings even more variety.
@@Jiepers I'm pretty sure Ferrari doesn't currently run any racing cars with a V12 engine, only a V8 (the 488 GT3 and GTE cars)
@@generalguilmon6719 Yeah, that seems to be the case.
The gte pro class dose dring something diffrent
Still waiting for audi to come to gte pro
@@aussieaudir8lms871 not sure they ever will. They are fond of the top classes of endurance racing
Why it take me 2 hours to get an oil change
Redbull mechanics trained here to go to F1
And after F1 they graduate to rally
Geez, it sure took them long enough. I can fill my gas tank faster. A real bunch of amateurs, and you can tell 'em I said so.
You would do it in 1 hour so shut up
Roberto M. Squillaci Filho whoosh
@@Kylemsguy reddit moment
Roberto M. Squillaci Filho bruh, you literally asked for it
@@karelpgbr maybe he said it just so we can have our reddit moment. what a hero
The best station ever... SpeedVision
Amazing technology to be able to remove that assembly that fast,and this was years ago!
wow that is insane. This could never be done anymore with all the complex drive train systems.
Those audis are so crisp and clean
IF the rules say you can't do something, than you can do it. That was the thinking of Audi.
I miss Speedvision and I miss David Hobbs commentating.
Bloody fantastic team work, well done Audi, well done team...
Yeah rules were changed after this cause Audi dis this like 3 times and kinda gave advantage with new parts they knew what they were doing smart as hell
waiting for the day audi returns to le mans
It'll be a while unfortunately
2022 the dream is becoming true
German efficiency
Audi was, is and will always be the best.
porsche will like to have a talk with you.
@@georgejakob1451 legendary batte Audi Vs Porche Vs Toyota
Type RA Gaming Pretty pointless comparison when both brands are literally in the same family. A win for Audi/Porsche is a win for VAG
@@gamefan56 actually the comparison makes sense, they are different teams at the end of the day.
Thank you very much for all your uploads
Let’s thank Jacksepticeye for commentating the race
It's not that similar
Lmao
Ohhh.. Speedvision how we miss you 😢😢
Back in the day when they didnt stop a 24h race for 9hrs just because it rained 2 hrs.
Unless its the track is so damn wet that half of the grid spins out
You should be thankfull that today organizers cares about drivers safety a lot more than back in the days
Amazing. Audi did win the 24 hours that year too.
They also changed front rotors and brakes, changing all four corners of the car!
Can you upload the 2000 24 Hours of Le Mans coverage?
It's done after one year of waiting
@@williamfernetducharme a man of patience
it took me 3 most to change my gearbox on my car with my 2 guys crew :)
Amazing team
Damn I remember watching that shit as it happened...
Those are some fast Kerrs
Audi always finding a new problem to add to the rule book
Was rooting for panoz honestly
FFS it is NOT a cherry picker .it is an Engine hoist used for a Rear end replacement.
It's nearly impossible to watch this race now. At least in Canada. I ha email to stream it. If there are streams to watch.
If you can tune out the drivel from the commentator, this was actually interesting to see how quickly this is done.
That is fucking nuts honestly!!!
Hans the transmission needs changes
This was real car racing....
Meanwhile at my local tire shop
mario andretti has outlived don panoz
Mario Andretti looking old there lol
I'm stupid. What is a gearbox? What is it for? Is turbo/nitro ban on this event? Is there even such a thing on an official race event?
The gearbox is another word for the transmission or the part of the car that translates the high rpm low torque power directly from the engine into higher torque lower rpm to send to the wheels with your different gears. Nitrous is not allowed, but it isn't a magic boost like games make it out to be so its not really a big deal. Different teams ran turbo and NA set ups, the Audi was a 3.2L turbo V8, the Panoz a 6.0L naturally aspirated V8
why are they dont have second car at pit for replacement?
The rules prohibit it
Had a stroke trying to read this
What car flies by at 3:19?
When my lottery numbers come in I'm buying an Audi.
phongulu and then you will quickly spend it on servicing
fcking awesome
All that work… and the he stalls it …. Mechanics were probably looking at him like 🥴🥴🥴
this makes redbull f1 teams' suspension repair job in hungaroring look rubbish. that took about 25 mins if I remember correctly
F1 cars aren’t really made for endurance racing in mind at all, so components are probably much trickier to replace
Is this LMP1?
Yeah what else could it be
If you're talking about the specific cars
@@3381-c5v because LMP2s look very similar
Its a lmp900, the direct predecessor of lmp1
@@shanefm02 they were all topless racecars? No shell?
changing the hot pieces
Wait ? You mean THIS is a 24h endurance race, where the Audi car can't go to the end without changing his gearbox ?
Wow ! It's so realistic !
Yep, the whole idea of winning this race is to prove the customer that the car you are selling is fast and strong enough to last 24 hours at maximum stress and beat the competition in it. This is a total failure made out to be a win...
They didn't change the transmission because of a transmission problem, they changed it because it was faster than switching out all the suspension components that were damaged when the tyre failed.
1-2-3 babe accept it
""The n 9 karrrrrww...dunces
awesome
Audi just give car manufacturers idea to change whole subframe for suspension failure
Oh, an Audi broke down and half the car had to be chaned...What's new?
@danielabt war das dein Onkel oder dein Vater ? 😂💪🏻
There has alway's been an unfair advantage at one point or another through time. This applied method was thought up by Reinhold Joest. A few years later he came up with brake and rotor change that only took about 10 minutes or so. Reinhold was a master contingency planner. It was the same general principle. Teams alway's find loopholes in the rules and exploit them. Schnitzer BMW team found a loophole with the GTR M3 and they dropped a much more powerful V8 in the car that ended dominating it's class. Porsche cried fould as the argument was that the V8 wasn't a production run motor at that time. Audi had an unfair advantage in the 1990's with the all wheel drive Quattro. They were underpowered compared to the competition but made up for it big time with the quattro drive. Subsequently the rules changed the following year as they alway's are after such exploits occur. But Audi showed the world what domination is. As the continued to do a decade later with the R8 through the R18 E-tron Quattro. 13 wins in 15 years. Kind of a mikrror of what Porsche di in the 1980's with the 956.
AWD isn't unfair it's just smart
Parts are parts
yet a car that has the same problem at a local dealer get fixed in a week😂😂
This guy say care instead of car:. 😂
Era where world has very lot of money..
it took my mechanic a day and a half to change the brake pads on my car :|
recorded with a camera from 1975
Rinaldo capello. Auch schon tod😢
Why do the mechanics wear masks?
The ones wearing masks are wearing fire proof balaclava's because they are the actual crew that changes tires and does fueling. They wear these incase there is a fuel spill and a fire breaks out to protect their face and hair
8:08 The fuck is that mechanic doing?
audi can replace a gearbox in a few minutes but toyota gr change a turbo in 30min, Pechito go for the first place in the next year! 😔
toyota debio haber reemplazado el motor hubieras sido mas rapido
ants
wtf
Audi is famous for the worst engine quality in the business
I think the whole idea that Audi has won le mans is just not legit, the transmission can’t last 24 hours, therefore your car is no good for a 24 hour endurance race, what’s left for a win?
The issue wasn't the transmission at all. The left rear suspension was damaged after the Michelin tyre failed. Changing the whole rear assembly including transmission is much quicker than replacing only the damaged suspension components.
True. But damn they are fast.
1-2-3
What an annoying accent; “kerr”