I grew up watching all these stars and I still knew full and well that was the Raven channel 😂 I remember years ago Disney showed nothing but That's So Raven episodes for maybe a week straight and I couldn't have been happier in my life 😭
As much as I love Miley Cyrus and Hannah Montana, but Raven definitely broke barriers and she deserves as much credit as Miley. Don't get me wrong, Miley has made a lot of impact and carried Disney on her back for years, but Raven is the Blueprint and paved the way for black women like, Coco, China, Keke, Skai Jackson, Monique Coleman and the lists goes on! Also if it weren't for her, The Cheetah Girls wouldn't be successful!
Raven is the only reason I paid any attention to disney. Like sure, i knew about lizzie mcguire n even Stevens but i didn't care about them. Thats so raven hooked me in❤
They totally fumbled the bag when it came to her. It’s straight up racism at this point cause she really was the full package. She could sing, dance and act. They did her so terribly.
It's sadly ironic that Disney told Raven that she needed to lose weight but also did an episode where Raven's body was photoshopped to make her appear skinny for a fashion show and she walked the runway pretty much telling everyone to embrace their bodies.
I heard she said it was hypocritical in one of her interviews. She had mentioned this same episode and then stated that she could not believe how hypocritical Disney told her to lose weight. Yet placed her in that or rather the episode after telling her this.
i saw so many stories about black actresses having to do their own hair or make up because their hairdressers didn't know how to do it. it's so heartbreaking.
If an extremely popular multiple award-winning biracial global icon like Zendaya can face racism and microaggressions in the entertainment industry, I can only imagine how bad it is for dark skin girls
Coco Jones said it herself that she would go to auditions and she wouldn’t get casted and she’d be asking her mom what’s wrong with her the way society treats black women especially growing up just isn’t fair....
we should say dark skinned girls specifically because the lighter skinned black girls get jobs and have a chance for success. Colorism in the industry is very evident and idk how they're not ashamed of it.
What I say to alllllll of this is GET OUR OWN!!!!! Sad how Skai's parent/ agent or whomever would not InSIST on a CAPABLE Stylist .... see realtalk we as African American Cosmetologist ( and even without a license) are talented 👌🏾to where I have the talent.. know how ... to work A N T Y typa hair. PERIODT. YEY THEY WILL NOT EMPLOY US.
@@lizatizitagobey4747 cause no one called them on it..... they just rode along on the BIG-D handout gravy train. Wasn't Noone in there like MONIQUE!!!!
@@lizatizitagobey4747 This is the reality in most if not all industries, all over the world. It’s just amplified because the entertainment industry is open for all to see. So sad
I love seeing all the love for Raven. I had no idea of all the traumatic things they put her through behind the scenes. She's always been my inspiration. Beautiful, talented beyond belief, a phenomenal singer, dancer and performer, all this packed into a young black star. Raven is EVERYTHING. I will forever be grateful for her sharing her light with us. She is absolutely THE blueprint! Take notes! Love this woman so much. I'm so honored to have grown up with her on my tv screen.
I remember seeing a magazine ad for Let It Shine and thinking Coco was so beautiful. And she can sing-she wouldn’t even need auto tune! I wish Disney had given her more opportunities
@Thai Lana Not true. There is literally no need to put down a woman to praise another. Coco Jones is incredible and very underrated and Selena is also very talented. Just because she dated Justin it doesn't mean she needed him to have success.
The Raven being overweight thing is funny considering how Cory being overweight was cool/comedic but as a female and as the lead of the show she couldn’t be human enough to have the normal weight gain associated with growing up. Smh.
Cory, Eddie, Victor and Raven were all plus sized but they only focused on Raven cause she and her show were their brand and they didn't want her to be fat and dark
@@lilenwasnothere6867 I never thought Raven was very attractive to begin with. But once she got big then she looked like a hideous troll. I know its mean but no ones trying to have that as a face of their network. I can't imagine anyone looking at her during those years and thinking she was pleasant to look at. And that doesn't mean you need to have a models body to be attractive either. But someone looking like they at least take care of themselves is attractive.
I’m Puerto Rican and I loooooved the Proud Family, Twitches, & That’s So Raven. It felt relatable even to my culture too. Seeing other people of color is still relatable, not just for “white people” but cross culturally and cross ethnically.
To be fair, Disney shows like the aforementioned ones and their stars DID impact me as a kid. At times, I preferred the black girls over their white counterparts. Tia and Tamera Mowry especially got me with their ‘twin prowess’ on the “Twitches” film series.✌️ (I’m saying this as a fellow non-black WOC.)
Yes but her mom is her manager so that's a good thing about her career! She is way more talented than what Disney can do for her and Disney would have just corrupted her like a corrupted all the other kids in the industry! I think she's better off because now she can have her sanity and grow up to be a respectful adults! Most of those kids that grew up in the industry and continue to be in the industry they have so many mental problems in don't know how to cope with it and they just get so fixated on drugs and try to escape! So I think her mom did the right thing by withdrawing her from the entertainment industry! Go check out her video where the music video Hollywood where she talks about how weird Hollywood is and her inner thoughts on it!
A lot of these places they have like 1-2, maybe 3, stylists for the entire cast. So I’m guessing that a lot of the hiring managers thought or felt like hiring a black stylist to do other folks hair just wouldn’t ‘work’ or some dumb shit. Also, it’s not that every black stylist will know how to style Natural black hair. For a long time I had a stylist who only knew how to braid my hair or perm it, and turns out she permed my hair and burned it all of I had to chop my hair off and start again. So black stylists don’t always mean knowledge because unfortunately a lot of them have to go to these white esthetician schools that don’t teach you anything about black hair. It’s a super complex issue unfortunately, but I’m glad some change is being made in a positive direction.
It’s safe to say that most Disney girls had mental breakdowns, image issues, dating problems, issues with being seen as a person outside of their childhood characters, etc On top of these problems, Black Disney girls dealt with colorism and hair/makeup models styling them incorrectly. This is very sickening and harmful a child’s psyche.
yes!!! especially at such young ages when you're vulnerable. Like how can an adult call a 7 year old fat?? Like did anyone stick up for them at all? It's saddening.
I agree, I personally believe that all child stars suffer in the industry whether it is music or acting It's really sad but that's the price for success
It is safe to say this. Take a look at nick stars and Disney stars automatically you can tell there was a difference on how they were treated. Most of Disney child actors ended up dead , drug addicts , mental issues etc. Not to say nick didn't have the same because there were a few " Amanda Bynes" but overall nick did a better job with the child actors than Disney
I'm so proud of China and Coco who aren't willing to compromise and sell her soul for fame. I also appreciate the fact that Zendaya recognises that colorism exists and acknowledges the fact that as a bi-racial actress, she's more privileged unlike others who pretend it doesn't exist!
I’m so mad Disney failed Coco Jones. She’s such a gorgeous talented singer/actress & I’m PISSED she didn’t get the success she so obviously deserves. I’ll be checking for her out here bc im ready to support her and see her win!!!
Disney Channel really did mistreat her and they didn’t promote enough diversity at all. Which was very sad. It’s still sad because black girls really dreamt of being a Disney star.
We know Keke from Nickelodeon because she was the star of True Jackson, VP and the movie Rags. But she was in Disney's Jump In as well. I believe she also had a singing record deal with Disney because I remember her music video for "Keep It Movin'" playing on Disney Channel all the time. I loved that whole album. She's from Disney and Nickelodeon.
When she said they told Raven she was too fat, I've seen so many stories about young disney girls developing eating disorders because Disney would tell them they were too big or too small to stay in a show. It's horrible the way disney treated little girls.
I remember being nine years old and seeing Miley Cyrus and Bella Thorne on Disney channel and specifically feeling like I couldn’t have any fat on my body. I was going through puberty from like 9-11 and I hated my body so much because I didn’t look like one of the Disney girls.
Coco Jones story is sooo frustrating me. Being a dark skinned, tall girl myself, seeing her on Let It Shine was so inspiring. I’d never seen someone who looked like me represented as the “it” girl, the girl everyone wanted or wanted to be who was talented, smart, funny, and happy. I hope she gets major deals in the future. Disney dropped a MAJOR ball.
Let it Shine was probably the only disney movie from its time that had decent acting and non cringey good songs. Songs that i would have not been ashamed to listen to
Yes i was inspired by her too it's always comfortable to see a face that looks like yours so you can feel comfortable to know that your not the only one or your not left out, it's like when you fail a test and you feel bad because you think you the only one but when your friend told you they failed too you feel a little better
They apparently told Coco Jones she wasn’t “marketable” enough. Bull shit. Darkskin black girl having a prominent role on Disney channel 8 years back would’ve been hella marketable and massively great for us young and even older black girls coming into adult years. Such a shame.
Keke Palmer has always been my favorite, I love the energy and passion she brings. Disney did these girls all wrong and now they have great careers outside of disney by keeping God 1st
On Skai's story about her hair and the fact that each stylist not knowing how to style her natural hair and each season a new stylist; Tells me they (DISNEY) did not hire any blacks. The ones who know how to style natural black hair.
@@radioactive_baby thats not why none of them had natural hair. Most if not all black actors didnt have natural hair, even before disney, why? because the trend and standards for "black beauty" were still weave and relaxers. The natural movement is still pretty "recent" meaning for along time both black and white media didnt see the need to learn or know how to care for "black hair" unless it was loosely curled or straight. Apart from that all they needed to know how to do was how to place a wig on their deads. Skai is probably one of the first black disney starts to have had natural kinky hair even before disney
Its the same with black models too. They would have to do their own hair and makeup bc the white stylists wouldn't know what to do. It's laziness and racist. They could easily hire a black stylist but they purposely chose not too. Can't have the black girl outshine the others.
@@betterfad3d seriously . They make fame , money and celeb status look like such a sweet experience that many people would do and go through whatever it took to get that . We as regular everyday people are conditioned to believe celebrities live this happy , extravagant , easy breezy , life . The truth is they go through so much more and sometimes only have the money to run to for comfort and reassurance. At all a business and a mind game .
@@demsmall8708 facts !!! and people disrespect some of these celebrities thinking because they have “money” or have so much stuff that’s financial wise, that they’re ok MENTALLY. a lot of these celebrities go through so much and don’t know how to handle it. that’s why i cant stand of these annoying ass haters that be under the Comments etc etc.... always speaking on celebrities as if they know what they go through behind closed doors. it be so weird.
That breaks my heart about her size. I remember seeing her on screen that's part of why I was drawn to the show in the first place. Because she wasn't the stereotypical stick figure Disney girl. And as a curvy little girl with only curvy women in my family, I really felt seen in a strange way.
As a young black girl struggling with her weight when I saw Raven I felt confident about my own body and it reassured me that you can still be cool even if you're overweight. It's awful to hear that Raven was told she was too big when she was the role model I needed to see.
I think what's sad is that going back and watching the show (I'm currently on the first season so this stands for that) Raven wasn't overweight. People also don't pay attention to the fact that Chelsea was underweight, but the only person that got flack was Raven because being as thin as possible was all the rave and still is.
@@jamsng everyone doesn’t need to be a Singer/Rapper. Damn near all those white girls that tried to have a singing career from that Disney/Nick era failed 🤣.
@@-Anonymous-. Yup. The only Disney girlies who've had massive successes from their music career are Miley, Selena and Demi. From Nick, Ariana Grande. The only recent example from the Disney/Nick machine I could think of is Sabrina Carpenter.
black sells. plain and simple. Twitches was literally my childhood me and my sisters LOOOOOOVED it as well as That's so Raven and the Proud Family and I loved Keke and I literally would yell "why can't she get more WHY" as a kid. Me and my sisters wanted more of these shows and more like them but the content just never came and it angered us a lot
I still look at Twitches still till this day I have the hole movie 1 and 2 and I can’t wait too look at it for Halloween and many more to come and proud family is my favorite keke is my favorite as well so as that’s so Raven
I really felt Raven and Keke. Keke almost had me in tears, she is so right. Through it all we must learn to love ourselves. Raven was so honest about how cut throat the industry truly is, they don’t care about you being a kid if you don’t fit the brand they have no problem telling a kid to lose weight and hide this or that. That’s the very reason these kids develop drug addictions.
The irony of raven being labeled as “too big” is that there was a whole episode of the show focused on how the industry body shamed and puts up a fake image on what women should look like. In the episode Raven’s dress gets featured on a magazine, but she doesn’t get to model it because she didn’t fit their image and she was replaced with a skinny white model instead. The episode ends with raven taking a stand and go on the catwalk to model her design despite what others say. It’s sad that that Lesson went over the executives heads
OMG it's ridiculous how they know what they are doing and they know it's wrong they make it public on the show that it is wrong and yet they still do it anyways off cameras towards the actors😡
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I loved the point made about Colorism. For a long time I felt it was strange how black women were never front and center unless they were lighter. It affected beauty standards in my community even now. I’m glad that there has been some progression in the way the media portrays beauty.
Keke Palmer deserved success and recognition way sooner than she got it. She's literally the WHOLE ENTIRE PACKAGE. She should not have been passed over time and time again before finally getting recognized.
I'm not gonna lie, I'm happy that it took some time because it gave her the time to think about what she actually wanted to do along with the loving parents she had that didn't push her unhappiness aside. Plus she got to work with some amazing black actors and actresses.
they’d rather put “another” women on the cover that’s OVER tanned, OVER done lip fillers, fake curly hair, and a fake body. Before they put the REAL deal on there. and I said what I said. 🤷🏾♀️
@@profaneinquest3785 And what? What you just said is dumb. How is a non-black person going to play a black person? Would you say the say the same for a non-white person being played by a black person? Educate yourself cause you seem clueless.
@@Retrofuturejoon Dumb? Yes it's is. But it's happening non black women play black women characters ALL the time. Even the iconic one like Storm has never been played by a black actress. And when some like-minded black people spoke about it, the black "community" try to gaslight them to silence. It's been happening for decades.
china’s journey breaks my heart 😞 i hope she’s continuing on her spiritual journey and healing. these women deserved so much more. these women deserve so much more.
i feel like disney always has the black actors having a white best friend for “diversity” but instead of just always including white people put some asian, indian, hispanic friends not just white edit: yes i am aware at indian is asian, my apologies
They did Cocoa Jones so wrong. She is literally sooooo talented and gorgeous!!!! How can anyone be so blind about that? I’m so ready for her time to shine, she is a star frfr! Long overdue.
Creative control. Corporations like Disney, Nickelodeon who are dominantly white in production will market to majority white audience. Hence why there is only a handful of tv shows / sitcoms on those networks with an all black / biracial cast. Give black / biracial creatives freedom to create ANYTHING and they will reach such great heights but instead the execs and production cast will downplay them saying they wont sell or do high numbers which is a lie.
Chile...pleaseeeee for why? To tell her how to bathe? Honey Disney need a real dragging. White people just upset about black people. Something up they control the resources and #staypressed... a black people build America suh dem can gwan ole drankcrow dem! #vulturesquad !
Thanks for highlighting these women. All the struggles behind the scenes that they faced… not surprised, but I am even more proud of them still standing strong. I’m forever grateful for their contribution. Well done!✨✨
@Erwin Lii Tyler Perry chooses to display our image as tragedy with a hope of redemption. We are tired of Tyler's brokenness in his stories. We want positivity. That is something Peele, Duvernay, and possibly Rhimes highlight for us. We need more creative outlets that do this...I agree.
This here. Mermaids as an ancient mythology along with sirens? Were monsters that ate people. But since ariel's debut back in 1885 and hans christian andersens tale of romance and sacrifice. Now mermaids are people to be loved. So....since they're to be loved....now mermaids are only white women full of romance, angst, and ready to betray their king to marry a prince. What? Oh... And apparently mermen are fan fiction. Let that sink in.... Mermaids a d sirens are known monsters that kill and eat sailors. How did they become beautiful white women to be fought over as a character portrayal? Is it demographic? Or do white people actually believe they would be white if they lived under the surface of the ocean? Jesus fuck.....
@@christianpool vanessa hudgens is biracial as well but she gets white girl treatment bc she looks white, tia and tamera get black girl treatment because they look black
Her look 8s not diverse enough. We need more actresses with darker melatonin on these shows. We exist too. I think is speaking out in these comments makes us heard. actresses
@@MsTWang one thing you can say for sure tho- they gave Peter Parker a preference for black women (even if Zendaya is only half) because the first girl he was in love with was definitely black, although ironically her character was biracial, with a white dad and black mom.. but then they made her dad the bad guy that Peter sent to prison. Yikes. 😬
I currently work in film /tv and this is definitely still an issue on set, there is NEVER anybody that knows how to style natural hair that is 4c or similar. Everybody has to style their own hair or deal with a stylist that is going to RUIN their hair in like 5 seconds and insist on doing it even though they have no idea what they are doing.
As a nerd I saw up close all the backlash that Zendaya suffered when she was cast as MJ and that made me sick. It was clearly for racist reasons. I'm glad that today she is too busy winning an Emmy to give a f*ck about em.
I read too fast and thought you were saying the directors are racist for casting a black women then I read the whole thing properly lol, but yeah I don't know why everyone threw a tantrum for them casting a black woman.
Coco literally has the face that has been made marketable by plastic surgeon's. She's gorgeous! But that's what white society does, tell black people "you ugly", then take "your look" and market it for 10's of thousands of dollars for 100% profit.
That part‼️ That’s witchcraft indeed, this is my thoughts exactly, when instagram-model will do everything and anything to have her skin tone by black fishing, her voluptuous lips by cosmetics procedure like fillers ( à la Kylie Jenner and co), they even created digital models instead of hiring real dark skin black women; because they prefer the fake one over the blueprint, OG black women, this is insannity, ludicrous and preposterous to say the least😤🙄🤦🏾♀️
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@@dashiajames1882 Coco is drop dead gorge but she is not Black-eish enough to succeed. unambiguous african features don't work anywhere in america. we need to stop pretending its cos she darker.
@@PHlophe idc. she can still make it. saying this will only bring her down. let’s stop with this pls. bc not every successful black women has ambiguous features and we know it. even you could name a few
That’s never happened though? So why you calling stuff on them like this?😑🙄 Also, Amanda Barnes had a breakdown bc she was being severely abused by her father and the industry. None of these things that the industry does is okay. These industry ppl think the general population should be licking their arse hairs... Just no. Why pit these stars against eachother?? Just no.
Tell that to Hanna Montana, Lizzy McGuire and the Mickey Mouse Club with Britney Spears, Justin Timberlake. White girls were tuning in to see, Zac Efron, Cole Sprouse, Joe Jonas, Shia LaBeouf etc., etc.. Disney is mostly oriented toward white youth. Sure it had some diversity but keep it in perspective.
@@ctruth6185 yea cause I remember watching disney as a kid and the only blck shows were thats so raven and proud family. The other shows were even Steven's, lizzie Mcguire, bug juice,phil of the future
I love this video so much, I love the way that they portrayed how strong these black women growing up in Disney were and still are. And I just hope this video review reaches the people that decide to go into the industry and really give them a better perspective on how they should go about it.
I read somewhere that in Sister Sister, Ray was originally written as a millionaire living in a mansion and owned multiple limousines and other luxury vehicles, but the producers reduced his character to an upper middle class man with a limousine business because at the time they thought Ray being black and wealthy just didn't make sense. Shame on them.
I don’t think it was a bad idea (well, obviously because it turned out to be a success). Personally, I appreciate that it was middle class family rather than a wealthy high class family. Statistically back in the 90s, the average black household was low class and this was also during or little after the crack cocaine epidemic. I believe having a middle class black family on tv had a more positive impact for black families, because it looked like an attainable goal a true representation that did exist for some middle class black families. Also, it showed to their white counterparts that black people can “function” within “their” society and shouldn’t be perceived as a threat. Watching those tv shows made me believe I could have what I saw on tv, it just seemed realistic. And I can bet if the show did run with a high class wealthy family, it wouldn’t have been such a success. At that time, it would appear to sell a fantasy, cause the average black person was not living like that unless their profession was a doctor (Cosby show), lawyer, etc. And I don’t think black people were interested in fantasies at that time, considering they had to deal with real issues. There is a time and place for everything. People are not born running. They crawl, stand, walk, jog, and then run. It just seemed that was the right move to make.
I actually think it was a good choice. Ofc their reasoning is out of focus, but during that time period it was more common for black people to not be very wealthy. I feel as though being middle class makes a bigger impact? If that makes sense. Altho it would be cool to see wealthy black people.
The reason for why they did that is so bad but idk about that because a majority of the cast is black so why would they have all the characters be black except for ray? Also, in a way it made the show better because it made it more reasonable and relatable. I don't think it would've been that good if Ray was rich.
@@lethabo713 You know what's not healthy? Fixating on other people's looks and dictating what they should and should not do with their bodies, especially women
@@lethabo713 Did you know that body shaming children will make them eat more/less? Child body shamers are the ones causing most children to end up fat/anorexic. Don’t force your stupid body standards on children. Children are meant to grow into their looks, let children grow.
For real. The stuff that they said about Halle made me sick. I understand it’s people’s childhood, but there was no reason for them to do what they did. I am really proud of her for handling the hate so well and I’m sure she will do great in the role.
Unpopular opinion: it's ok to leave a movie based on a Danish (white) folklore with a white lead. Does that mean we shouldn't have black leads ? No. Does that mean that its important to keep that respect to the roots of an original piece? Most definitely . Representation does not mean rob a different culture of that. They shoulda created something new for her. Better yet we should create something better. As black people we need to stop relying on the white industry to give us that validation through representation. WE CAN DO IT FOR OURSELVE BY OURSELVES. stop relying on your oppressors for validation. It doesn't make sense
@Donae Campbell Totally agree, we are always asking white people for representation while stating that they don't want to see us succeed...then why ask anything from them? We should focus on building our own community. also Disney is just lazy with those live actions movies. They should be creating new characters and stories. Tbh I don't think Ariel is being robbed of anything. She will always be known as the red hair , green eyes siren, no matter who play her. It's like when Brandy played Cinderella in 1997, it was cute and that's it. I've never see anyone think cinderella is black because of that.
@@donaecampbell4303 the Disney film was very loosly based off of the source material the music in the Disney version is mostly Caribbean which isn't Danish at all, at that point it doesn't matter what race Ariel is played as. Folks didn't care about it being originally a Danish folk tale until a black woman was playing Ariel. Disney themselves didn't respect the source material they did their own spin on it, and with the live action version their doing the same thing they did with their 90s version. This movies isn't a good example with the point you're trying to make.
i'm proud of Zendaya for all she's accomplished. and I'm glad she realizes the privileged position she's in and she uses her privilege to do the right thing and stand by her people.
Now that I’m older I never realized how beautiful she is😍😍😍😍😍 her name really suits her. Shame on them for thinking she isn’t marketable and not believing her
raven was literally my childhood, I loved her and hearing what she had to go through when she was with disney is literally disgusting, I can't even imagine how it feels to be treated like that at such a young age
She was in alot more disney movies and projects that wont listed example Princess Diaries, Zenon and another movie I think it involved some Christmas gift
The issue is they refuse to have little white girls saying they want to be like a black girl. However its ok for our little black girls to look at the white girls and want to be like them.
Same tactic they've been using since the Elvis days. They couldn't fathom white teens rocking out to black rock musicians back in the day so they pushed Elvis, despite Elvis ripping off plenty of black musicians at that time. Elvis got fame and fortune while the black artists he ripped off weren't nearly as popular or rich as he was
It hurts my heart to see how black women are treated by some black men and by other men in the industry and in the world but to struggles comes triumph all these women that was featured on this content are beautiful black queens that are going to be a force to be reckoned with when they find a true identity and a true self and become who they are
not mixed/amibigous enough. Please can you name a full black darkskin actress who had their own show on disney channel starting from? I actually want to know because i cant
That's a dayum shame. I'm like what the hell did her parents say and why did they speak directly to her....."Now look here hun, do not eat any more snacks, or food on the set - you're getting chubby...". But then again, my bro told me the same thing when I was little and I believed the hype - still love junk food to this day tho!
I noticed how every little Disney channel actor after that’s so raven would literally copy all of Ravens mannerisms and facial expressions. 😂 Raven was their holy grail.
I’m so happy and glad for her people tried to make it out that’s she was crazy at one point but she knows what she’s doing she remains booked and busy.
Can we talk about the fact that Disney made so much money being diverse and having black tv shows yet they refuse to bring it back. Which means, even knowing we bring in revenue they refuse to show us 🙃
Black Women are so beautiful, its very frustrating, the black community goes through so much that no one knows about. Im so proud of these Black women that have came out especially coco
but yet the black community let other groups such as middleasterners n illegals immigrats take their black civilrights, but non of them fought for your civilrights, because many of them where also mpart of the oppressers, depends where wich demographic they came from
@@donlemontte2280 we shouldn’t have to fight for basic human right because it should have been normal for blacks to be treated equally when that law was passed long ago. Plus they are fighting for equality threw BLM
I love that raven came out. She finally got to show us who she really is and not hide behind a brand. I thought it was so cute when she said that she would have a husband who would be my friend😂❤️
@@starduststudios5671 HAHA I TOOK THE VACCINE AND I STARTED TO HAVE DEMONIC SATANIC LAUGHING. IT WON'T STOP I JUST LOVE IT SPREAD THE VACCINE. I don't care, the vaccine will be everywhere and so will the masks
@@yavinahmed3389 You are being adamantly discourteous towards someone who warned you about a fact that’s so crucial for no reason! Believe in Jesus today, Not tomorrow ❤️🙏🏾
That’s why it kills me that Disney is trying soo hard to be all “woke” now. They have a bad reputation for lack of diversity in general I mean look at how many black animated Disney characters there are.
@@lunarspace1196 disney channel didn’t show a Black Lives Matter commercial until Nickelodeon did very sad acting like raven didn’t give them noreirty.
Disney doesn't do that many human animated characters. Sounds like you're reaching way back to 89 with the Little Mermaid. Look at their recent stuff that has had human character Coco - Mexican .. Moana - Poly.
@@wanzyxlanzy1886 i feel like nickelodeon tried to do more tho. They even had a whole segment thing, hosted by Keke Palmer and even explained the BLM movement, and what happened to geroge Floyd to kids over video call.
The irony of Disney to have an episode of The Suite Life where they talk about being happy with your size and yet tell Raven that she was too fat to do a concert, and for them to have an episode of That's So Raven where they talk about discriminating against black people by not hiring them and then tell Coco Jones that she was too black to have a role. Disney is all talk and that's all they will ever be.
@@woomeebly Ya learn something new everyday because I did not know that! I did know that Disney was racist though, which is why I’m not even surprised and why I said Disney is all talk. Smfh.
They also had an episode of That’s So Raven about raven modeling and standing up to the agency who wants her to be stick thin and being comfortable modeling her design in her natural size. Yet they do that to her
They were trying to call her old. The bigger she would get the more she looked her age. Raven was in her 20s into 30s, playing a teenager. They wanted to keep her as young as possible but HUAMNS don’t work that way. But Raven brought them a lot of money so rather than waste resources on finding a new black girl (probably why Kekes show got scrapped), keep the one you have that has a cult following of black girls...
Wow! I'm a subscriber and I'm just coming across this ....This literally had me in tears. I am so proud of these young ladies for speaking their truths. We need to expose this colorism thing in Hollywood. Being a woman of a darker complexion I understand that feeling.. I especially admire Zendaya for being so honest about noticing certain privileges.I pray they all gain the power and success to create change for girls like my daughter who dreams of singing and acting..###Blackgirlmagic###
That's a shame they dogged Raven for her weight as bad as they did. She wasn't even fat either! She was just becoming a GROWN WOMAN. Some of us just get thicker as we age.
Well remember Disney wants them looking like children even when they are full grown adults. It's the reason Zach Effron got fed up with them. Like yeah he's not going to look like a teenage boy forever. There's something creepy and disturbing in that when you think about it.
I loved seeing a not super skinny girl on tv, it was so inspiring and I saw myself in her. Representation really does matter. After she left Disney literally had all white stars for a while
Another thing: is so sad how whenever we think of beauty and we relate black woman most people only think of Zendaya. She’s gorgeous, beautiful and an amazing person, but it just shows how there is almost no black representation on the media.
No black peoples under the planet sees her as a black girl. She does a commercial in my country and she is a mix girl. Only in the USA to be seen cool black colorblind people called her black. White people will never called her black, only black americans
@Who damn Cares (Probably not Disney-based, but) whenever I "think of beauty & relate black woman", I usually think of someone like Megan Thee Stallion or Inayah or Ashanti, tbh...
@@tweetyslife253 For real! Outside of the US the only people that would think she is black are those that very americanized. When people say "yah but to white people she is black" and then complain about white people casting biracial women ONLY lmao what a contradiction. White people know the difference and the truth is the only white people who call biracial people black, arent doing it because that is what they think, but because that is what most biracial people in america call themselvs so to be PC they literally just go with it
@@tweetyslife253 Actually true! I’m actually Brazilian, not american but what I meant by that was that tv shows/ movies cast Zendaya as some character and think they’re the most diverse show in the world because they casted a woman of color.
It's wild to me that all the shows I loved growing up, Proud Family, Sister Sister, My Wife and Kids, Thats So Raven, all had black leads but somehow they pushed all these amazing shows to the side and said "black doesn't sell".
It's so stupid they say 'black doesn't sell' considering all those Disney movies and shows that starred black girls were hella popular. It's just racism/colorism at this point.
@@mimistardust3915 It's about the power structure! A certain race would rather destroy everything and anyone that threatens that structure (money, decision making, control).
Raven DID THE MF THING FOR DISNEY. After that you started to see a whole lot of teens come out with shows with the same narrative. To produce and direct your own show at a young age, that’s big. Disney never treated black teens right. They always have to work extra hard just to make something happen. Smh she had to fight Disney just to get the idea out there and then they wanted her to play CHELSEE and annaliese play Raven. Annaliese and Raven both agreed that they roles should be switched and then Raven fought to get Orlando onboard. Disney didn’t like the whole black family thing . It was originally supposed to be like mixed ish. Raven is the one that fought that to have a black mother and a black father who were both successful, a lawyer and a professional chef and restaurant owner, I’m proud of her. Still years later, it was the best comedy teen sitcom Disney ever had. Now her new show Raven home is on the same path. Raven had been in this business since she was 3. Hella talented, Disney almost played themselves.
The saddest part was how in Let it Shine Coco's character's story was basically about a girl who gets that record deal and becomes famous but the producers change her so she is "sellable" and dont let her sing her own music and stuff and later that actually happens with Coco irl
Thanks Sis for highlighting these beautiful ladies that we adore so much! They will always be Queens in my eyes! I am 37 and my family recently binged on That's So Raven, because of RAVEN!! Love her to the moon and back! And I love how Zendaya is speaking out for her people!
China's statement rings so true, "Representation Matters" and "Create responsibly". More women of color that are creating their own production agencies ; I'm here for it!
Marsai Martin (the little girl from Blackish) is producing a Disney show with dark skin black girls and the main character has sickle cell. We have to support her! 😤😤😤
every one of these beautiful women inspire me. they deserve so much more than what the industry dealt them. i’m glad they are able to tell their stories and that people are opening their eyes.
As a kid, I admired raven and finally saw myself in her because she looked normal! I was a big kid and seeing her not be stick thin like the other Disney girls, I didn’t feel bad about myself for once. Years later when she finally came out, that strengthened my love for her because I was queer as well and hid until adulthood!
I admire women like China so much - she’s such an inspiration for being strong in her faith and her character, even with all the craziness the industry threw at her. Through her, so many young black women realize that it’s possible to do what you love without sacrificing who you are; and the world needs more of that! I pray that God continues to guide her and bless her, and I can’t wait to see all the things she creates!
Hallelujah!!!! I love finding out that popular people are Christians. Darcy Lynn and Micarah Tewers are thankfully Christians and I just found out that China Anne McClain is a Christian! 😊🎊✨
Raven literally made Disney back in the 2000’s and people never give her her credit. Before Miley Cyrus, Raven was THE girl!
Exactly! She literally paved the way!
I loved "That's so Raven".
I grew up watching all these stars and I still knew full and well that was the Raven channel 😂 I remember years ago Disney showed nothing but That's So Raven episodes for maybe a week straight and I couldn't have been happier in my life 😭
@@MsAngelaSunshine so did I! i loved it so much because coming from a black family, i saw a lot of my family dynamic in her household.
As much as I love Miley Cyrus and Hannah Montana, but Raven definitely broke barriers and she deserves as much credit as Miley. Don't get me wrong, Miley has made a lot of impact and carried Disney on her back for years, but Raven is the Blueprint and paved the way for black women like, Coco, China, Keke, Skai Jackson, Monique Coleman and the lists goes on! Also if it weren't for her, The Cheetah Girls wouldn't be successful!
One thing we all can agree about is when raven was younger she ruled DISNEY she is the Beyoncé of Disney channel
Facts 💯 I’ve always loved raven and idolize her on the show her outfits, hair, makeup were so cute 🥰
Raven is the only reason I paid any attention to disney. Like sure, i knew about lizzie mcguire n even Stevens but i didn't care about them. Thats so raven hooked me in❤
Absolutely
Been watching Raven from xenon girl of the 21st century all the way to ravens home and I'm a male that just turned 30. She's my fav
That’s no cap , I can admit that even as someone who did not watch her shows / movies
Were they scared about us “not selling”? Or were they afraid of us actually selling and having the spotlight ?
Facts you right
Both.
Don't sell out Repent! Yahusha died for u bc He l's u! He is coming back soon DO NOT take the mark of the beast vaccine!
The second part.
right and when Halle Bailey send the Little Mermaid to the moon.. they gonna be mad
It’s crazy cause even on “progressive” shows like euphoria there is still a stunning lack of dark skinned women
When u need a black person go head and call zendaya
careful they might just cast dark skin women in negative roles and call it diversity *cringe*
@@niaisnext 💀💀
@@niaisnext or Zoey Kravitz
@@fenixlavande4755 atleast she fully black well I might kinda
Coco Jones was a wasted talent. She has gone viral on Tiktok multiple times. She’s a force to be reckoned with
Yup, I was so mad that after so random they did put her on another show and promote her properly Disney did her wrong
4 real when she was on let it shone I thought Disney waa going to give her more spot light like they normally do, she was too good for them
She single handedly took over SZA’s whole song.
They totally fumbled the bag when it came to her. It’s straight up racism at this point cause she really was the full package. She could sing, dance and act. They did her so terribly.
Her remix to sza's Hit Different 😭❤
It's sadly ironic that Disney told Raven that she needed to lose weight but also did an episode where Raven's body was photoshopped to make her appear skinny for a fashion show and she walked the runway pretty much telling everyone to embrace their bodies.
I heard she said it was hypocritical in one of her interviews. She had mentioned this same episode and then stated that she could not believe how hypocritical Disney told her to lose weight. Yet placed her in that or rather the episode after telling her this.
I was JUST gonna say this like the irony
Exactly what I was thinking
Omg! That was one of my fav episodes growing up. I STILL have it to this day on VHS. The hypocrisy is disgusting
what episode was it do you know?
They need to hire black hairdressers, simple as that...no shade it is what it is
i saw so many stories about black actresses having to do their own hair or make up because their hairdressers didn't know how to do it. it's so heartbreaking.
🔥
@@lilenwasnothere6867 yup I heard that...
And costume designer
@Alisa Martinez I liked that as well!
If an extremely popular multiple award-winning biracial global icon like Zendaya can face racism and microaggressions in the entertainment industry, I can only imagine how bad it is for dark skin girls
Great point.
You sound so stupid saying this. Is it not obvious to you that Black Biracials still get lynched, face racism, etc? Like why are you so surprised?💀
did u think mixed black girls didn't get racism?
She's only able to become all of those things and accomplish all of that BECAUSE she's biracial...........
EVERYONE faces it. It’s just being different Than a majority of where you’re working
Raven was the OG Disney girl. She carried the whole network on her BACK! She is the blueprint.
Agreed.
Yes Raven is😌👑
Yes indeed !!!!
She literally did.
100% agreed.
Coco Jones said it herself that she would go to auditions and she wouldn’t get casted and she’d be asking her mom what’s wrong with her the way society treats black women especially growing up just isn’t fair....
Her role as Roxy on let it shine will forever be iconic let’s never forget that tho....
we should say dark skinned girls specifically because the lighter skinned black girls get jobs and have a chance for success. Colorism in the industry is very evident and idk how they're not ashamed of it.
What I say to alllllll of this is GET OUR OWN!!!!! Sad how Skai's parent/ agent or whomever would not InSIST on a CAPABLE Stylist .... see realtalk we as African American Cosmetologist ( and even without a license) are talented 👌🏾to where I have the talent.. know how ... to work A N T Y typa hair. PERIODT. YEY THEY WILL NOT EMPLOY US.
@@lizatizitagobey4747 cause no one called them on it..... they just rode along on the BIG-D handout gravy train. Wasn't Noone in there like MONIQUE!!!!
@@lizatizitagobey4747 This is the reality in most if not all industries, all over the world. It’s just amplified because the entertainment industry is open for all to see. So sad
raven is thee BLUEPRINT and she still has her Disney coins too!
She said she ain't touched her money from Cosby either...
🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
She still getting them disney coins
@@darrellmeans6889 Right, and that info came from her own mouth.
I love seeing all the love for Raven. I had no idea of all the traumatic things they put her through behind the scenes. She's always been my inspiration. Beautiful, talented beyond belief, a phenomenal singer, dancer and performer, all this packed into a young black star. Raven is EVERYTHING. I will forever be grateful for her sharing her light with us. She is absolutely THE blueprint! Take notes! Love this woman so much. I'm so honored to have grown up with her on my tv screen.
Coco Jones literally had it all. She had the talent, looks, and personality. She deserved to be put on a pedestal.
No one deserves to be put on a pedestal. They're a human not a god
@@GrimmtokiAMV Ofc but she had it all. I meant to say she deserved to be in the same level of fame as Demi, Miley, Jonas Brothers, Selena, etc.
I remember seeing a magazine ad for Let It Shine and thinking Coco was so beautiful. And she can sing-she wouldn’t even need auto tune! I wish Disney had given her more opportunities
@Thai Lana Not true. There is literally no need to put down a woman to praise another. Coco Jones is incredible and very underrated and Selena is also very talented. Just because she dated Justin it doesn't mean she needed him to have success.
@@GrimmtokiAMVshut up
Keke Palmer is the definition of "just because one thing doesn't happen, it's because better things are waiting for you". 👏👏👏
yep
and I definitely watched true Jackson vp when it came out
I always sung along to her theme song as well
Loveee to see her paving her own way. 💜
@@aghasearmyshawolblinkonce8039 i never understood why people don’t talk about true jackson more, this show is elite
I blame the parents for continuing this. You can tell when a person is passionate about something is when you keep pushing.
Iiiiiioiiiii kopp pkkkk0⁰0o
One thing Empressive channel gonna do she gonna give us our fave artists back stories!!! 🙌🏾
Yes Jackie!
Period!
Facts
Auntie Jackie, we love you!😍
Yass jackie
The Raven being overweight thing is funny considering how Cory being overweight was cool/comedic but as a female and as the lead of the show she couldn’t be human enough to have the normal weight gain associated with growing up. Smh.
Cory, Eddie, Victor and Raven were all plus sized but they only focused on Raven cause she and her show were their brand and they didn't want her to be fat and dark
Well Cory looked healthy and still cute when fat. Raven looked absolutely hideous.
@@jimduggan8962 be gone fiend
@@jimduggan8962 what's the difference?
@@lilenwasnothere6867 I never thought Raven was very attractive to begin with. But once she got big then she looked like a hideous troll. I know its mean but no ones trying to have that as a face of their network. I can't imagine anyone looking at her during those years and thinking she was pleasant to look at. And that doesn't mean you need to have a models body to be attractive either. But someone looking like they at least take care of themselves is attractive.
I’m Puerto Rican and I loooooved the Proud Family, Twitches, & That’s So Raven. It felt relatable even to my culture too. Seeing other people of color is still relatable, not just for “white people” but cross culturally and cross ethnically.
To be fair, Disney shows like the aforementioned ones and their stars DID impact me as a kid. At times, I preferred the black girls over their white counterparts. Tia and Tamera Mowry especially got me with their ‘twin prowess’ on the “Twitches” film series.✌️
(I’m saying this as a fellow non-black WOC.)
💯
Majority of Latinos preferred those shows
I can’t stress enough: Disney fumbled, fumbled, FUMBLED the bag with Coco!! Oh my word
the surprising thing is that coco was on there in the first place. this is murica
She had so much potential I always wondered what happened to her
@@PHlophe a
Yesss as soon as it got to the end of the video that was the first thing I thought. HOW TF YOU BLOW THAT LEAD?!?!?!!!! That girl is a GOLD MINE🤦🏽♀️
Yes but her mom is her manager so that's a good thing about her career! She is way more talented than what Disney can do for her and Disney would have just corrupted her like a corrupted all the other kids in the industry! I think she's better off because now she can have her sanity and grow up to be a respectful adults! Most of those kids that grew up in the industry and continue to be in the industry they have so many mental problems in don't know how to cope with it and they just get so fixated on drugs and try to escape! So I think her mom did the right thing by withdrawing her from the entertainment industry! Go check out her video where the music video Hollywood where she talks about how weird Hollywood is and her inner thoughts on it!
So hiring black stylist for black actresses was never in the thoughts lol this world has always been wild
Oml
i’ve heard somewhere it’s hard black stylists to join the union to then even get hired . it’s messed up all around
they not tryna hire blacks foks!!! but please i’ll do my own child hair or take her to the africans to get her hair done
A lot of these places they have like 1-2, maybe 3, stylists for the entire cast. So I’m guessing that a lot of the hiring managers thought or felt like hiring a black stylist to do other folks hair just wouldn’t ‘work’ or some dumb shit.
Also, it’s not that every black stylist will know how to style Natural black hair. For a long time I had a stylist who only knew how to braid my hair or perm it, and turns out she permed my hair and burned it all of I had to chop my hair off and start again.
So black stylists don’t always mean knowledge because unfortunately a lot of them have to go to these white esthetician schools that don’t teach you anything about black hair.
It’s a super complex issue unfortunately, but I’m glad some change is being made in a positive direction.
That part!!!!
It’s safe to say that most Disney girls had mental breakdowns, image issues, dating problems, issues with being seen as a person outside of their childhood characters, etc On top of these problems, Black Disney girls dealt with colorism and hair/makeup models styling them incorrectly. This is very sickening and harmful a child’s psyche.
yes!!! especially at such young ages when you're vulnerable. Like how can an adult call a 7 year old fat?? Like did anyone stick up for them at all? It's saddening.
I agree, I personally believe that all child stars suffer in the industry whether it is music or acting It's really sad but that's the price for success
It is safe to say this. Take a look at nick stars and Disney stars automatically you can tell there was a difference on how they were treated. Most of Disney child actors ended up dead , drug addicts , mental issues etc. Not to say nick didn't have the same because there were a few " Amanda Bynes" but overall nick did a better job with the child actors than Disney
@@j.m.t.p7806 and it’s upsetting because it shouldn’t have to be this way
@@j.m.t.p7806 mainly POV don’t all lives matter our shit
I'm so proud of China and Coco who aren't willing to compromise and sell her soul for fame. I also appreciate the fact that Zendaya recognises that colorism exists and acknowledges the fact that as a bi-racial actress, she's more privileged unlike others who pretend it doesn't exist!
there is no such thing as selling your soul, there's just EXTREME racism bts that prevented them from growing higher.
I’m so mad Disney failed Coco Jones. She’s such a gorgeous talented singer/actress & I’m PISSED she didn’t get the success she so obviously deserves. I’ll be checking for her out here bc im ready to support her and see her win!!!
Terrell Grice has a UA-cam show with Coco Jones as of Monday. You should check it out! 😊
@@JG-4real thank you! I’m definitely tuning into that tonight then!
Disney Channel really did mistreat her and they didn’t promote enough diversity at all. Which was very sad. It’s still sad because black girls really dreamt of being a Disney star.
@@JG-4real was looking for that comment. She brings it! One man’s trash is another man’s treasure. Terrell don swooped her up real quick!
I always wondered why she didn't make it big. Should've known better though.
I’m ready for whatever Ms. China Ann is putting out. And Rooting for all of these women.
Same !! I love her!
Righhhhttt!!!
They have every right to speak their minds🖤🖤🖤
yep
Baby yes!! We must protect this beautiful sister ❤️❤️❤️
Keke is definitely doing her thing and shouldn’t be called a Disney girls because she was a Nickelodeon kid
Keke was definitely a Nickelodeon girl! That’s where mainly everybody knew her from.
I actually knew her from Disney. I watched her a lot there
keke was both , jump in will always be one of my favourite Disney show
We know Keke from Nickelodeon because she was the star of True Jackson, VP and the movie Rags. But she was in Disney's Jump In as well. I believe she also had a singing record deal with Disney because I remember her music video for "Keep It Movin'" playing on Disney Channel all the time. I loved that whole album. She's from Disney and Nickelodeon.
@@RoyallyPrincess that’s true
When she said they told Raven she was too fat, I've seen so many stories about young disney girls developing eating disorders because Disney would tell them they were too big or too small to stay in a show. It's horrible the way disney treated little girls.
I remember being nine years old and seeing Miley Cyrus and Bella Thorne on Disney channel and specifically feeling like I couldn’t have any fat on my body. I was going through puberty from like 9-11 and I hated my body so much because I didn’t look like one of the Disney girls.
Coco Jones story is sooo frustrating me. Being a dark skinned, tall girl myself, seeing her on Let It Shine was so inspiring. I’d never seen someone who looked like me represented as the “it” girl, the girl everyone wanted or wanted to be who was talented, smart, funny, and happy. I hope she gets major deals in the future. Disney dropped a MAJOR ball.
Same when I was 5 I loved her
Yesss at I use to say I was her 😍😍😍
Let it Shine was probably the only disney movie from its time that had decent acting and non cringey good songs. Songs that i would have not been ashamed to listen to
Yes i was inspired by her too it's always comfortable to see a face that looks like yours so you can feel comfortable to know that your not the only one or your not left out, it's like when you fail a test and you feel bad because you think you the only one but when your friend told you they failed too you feel a little better
That's pure evil humans didn't want that happiness for you. I'm glad it's there
They apparently told Coco Jones she wasn’t “marketable” enough. Bull shit. Darkskin black girl having a prominent role on Disney channel 8 years back would’ve been hella marketable and massively great for us young and even older black girls coming into adult years. Such a shame.
If they ever make a live-action princess and the frog Disney needs to payback Coco and cast her as Tiana! She would be perfect.
Hell we would’ve bought her dolls too. We have strong buying power
@@kamigriff exactly!
@@GoldenestLady that would be a great idea and if they continue the story, she should be on the cast too.
@@GoldenestLady Coco definitely has the looks for it and she’s a great singer. I hope she’d be considered
Keke Palmer has always been my favorite, I love the energy and passion she brings. Disney did these girls all wrong and now they have great careers outside of disney by keeping God 1st
Coco is beautiful. She could literally play Tiana in Princess and the Frog.
@Noel Jimenez UGGGHHHH YOURE SO RIGHT 😤😒
I hope they put a Live one in the making.
I like Ryan Destin more for that role
Frrr
She should get big role and laugh in their face. Like a biopic role , a blockbuster or online award nominated streamed movie
On Skai's story about her hair and the fact that each stylist not knowing how to style her natural hair and each season a new stylist; Tells me they (DISNEY) did not hire any blacks. The ones who know how to style natural black hair.
Thats why none of them had natural hair. They either got perms or wore wigs
@@radioactive_baby thats not why none of them had natural hair. Most if not all black actors didnt have natural hair, even before disney, why? because the trend and standards for "black beauty" were still weave and relaxers. The natural movement is still pretty "recent" meaning for along time both black and white media didnt see the need to learn or know how to care for "black hair" unless it was loosely curled or straight. Apart from that all they needed to know how to do was how to place a wig on their deads. Skai is probably one of the first black disney starts to have had natural kinky hair even before disney
Its the same with black models too. They would have to do their own hair and makeup bc the white stylists wouldn't know what to do. It's laziness and racist. They could easily hire a black stylist but they purposely chose not too. Can't have the black girl outshine the others.
BuT wE cAnT hAv ThE bLaK gUrL lOoK bEtTeR tHeN tHe WiTe GuRlS
Slap Jackson will always be one of my fav ex Disney actress anyone that is hating on her is clearly bored and need a a life
It's crazy because I used to want to be on Disney so bad as a kid. Now, I'm so glad it wasn't me. That money nice but not worth the mental strain.
It’s crazy but I would’ve done it still knowing all this, if I had a chance
@@betterfad3d seriously . They make fame , money and celeb status look like such a sweet experience that many people would do and go through whatever it took to get that . We as regular everyday people are conditioned to believe celebrities live this happy , extravagant , easy breezy , life . The truth is they go through so much more and sometimes only have the money to run to for comfort and reassurance. At all a business and a mind game .
@@demsmall8708 facts !!! and people disrespect some of these celebrities thinking because they have “money” or have so much stuff that’s financial wise, that they’re ok MENTALLY. a lot of these celebrities go through so much and don’t know how to handle it. that’s why i cant stand of these annoying ass haters that be under the Comments etc etc.... always speaking on celebrities as if they know what they go through behind closed doors. it be so weird.
I was a soo pressed growing up because I wanted to be a Disney starlet, but whooo thank you Jesus that I wasn’t! 🙏🏾💕
@@jahiel239 ian weak minded so i could've done it but sadly i never got da chance 🙄
That breaks my heart about her size. I remember seeing her on screen that's part of why I was drawn to the show in the first place. Because she wasn't the stereotypical stick figure Disney girl. And as a curvy little girl with only curvy women in my family, I really felt seen in a strange way.
As a young black girl struggling with her weight when I saw Raven I felt confident about my own body and it reassured me that you can still be cool even if you're overweight. It's awful to hear that Raven was told she was too big when she was the role model I needed to see.
Me too!
Me too !!
I think what's sad is that going back and watching the show (I'm currently on the first season so this stands for that) Raven wasn't overweight. People also don't pay attention to the fact that Chelsea was underweight, but the only person that got flack was Raven because being as thin as possible was all the rave and still is.
OMG Raven is NOT overweight! That's a perfectly HEALTHY and NORMAL body type!
I literally told my therapist this TO-DAY. This was so real, esp as I grew up around all white/asians
Keke is very talented and she deserves a lot more respect.
I was thinking this too. I've always admired how she carries herself.
period.
@@ismahanm1118 yes!!
I wish she would act more
She’s always been so authentic it’s really admirable
Keke's, Zendaya's and Raven's music career never really took off but their acting skills made them more successful
Their music didnt take off because of white people.
@@jamsng everyone doesn’t need to be a Singer/Rapper. Damn near all those white girls that tried to have a singing career from that Disney/Nick era failed 🤣.
@@-Anonymous-. Yup. The only Disney girlies who've had massive successes from their music career are Miley, Selena and Demi. From Nick, Ariana Grande. The only recent example from the Disney/Nick machine I could think of is Sabrina Carpenter.
@@synonymbuns7082 and Olivia Rodrigo but it might be to early to call that one
Raven had the best voice then Keke I never heard Zendaya sing so I cant comment.
black sells. plain and simple. Twitches was literally my childhood me and my sisters LOOOOOOVED it as well as That's so Raven and the Proud Family and I loved Keke and I literally would yell "why can't she get more WHY" as a kid. Me and my sisters wanted more of these shows and more like them but the content just never came and it angered us a lot
The industry is racist towards Black girls. That's why. I honestly find it ridiculous how they didn't hire someone to do their hair! Smh.
I still look at Twitches still till this day I have the hole movie 1 and 2 and I can’t wait too look at it for Halloween and many more to come and proud family is my favorite keke is my favorite as well so as that’s so Raven
I’m white and I agree that black DOES SELL! I enjoyed watching Raven on Disney when I was younger :D
@@katysikkema You may have, but it doesn't change the fact the industry is racist.
@@shimmer4771 yeah, it’s sad. Nobody deserves to be treated poorly because of a racist industry.
I really felt Raven and Keke. Keke almost had me in tears, she is so right. Through it all we must learn to love ourselves.
Raven was so honest about how cut throat the industry truly is, they don’t care about you being a kid if you don’t fit the brand they have no problem telling a kid to lose weight and hide this or that. That’s the very reason these kids develop drug addictions.
💯 yes I agree!
@@ambriaashley3383 keep your head up ❤💪🏾
The irony of raven being labeled as “too big” is that there was a whole episode of the show focused on how the industry body shamed and puts up a fake image on what women should look like.
In the episode Raven’s dress gets featured on a magazine, but she doesn’t get to model it because she didn’t fit their image and she was replaced with a skinny white model instead. The episode ends with raven taking a stand and go on the catwalk to model her design despite what others say.
It’s sad that that Lesson went over the executives heads
Factss
The irony
I loved that episode
OMG it's ridiculous how they know what they are doing and they know it's wrong they make it public on the show that it is wrong and yet they still do it anyways off cameras towards the actors😡
I have never seen of a designer modelling their own clothes. They usually use models.
We’re not “marketable” yet Black people exist so of course there’s a market. They just want the Eurocentric standards to continue🤷🏽♀️
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And black people are on average the best dancers and singers. Or generally artists.
They white wash our culture but don't want to use us
@@jaimesingletary2313 🤔😮 I like your point of view but its just not like that
@@jaimesingletary2313 nice point but..... I don’t think that’s right
I loved the point made about Colorism. For a long time I felt it was strange how black women were never front and center unless they were lighter. It affected beauty standards in my community even now. I’m glad that there has been some progression in the way the media portrays beauty.
Keke Palmer deserved success and recognition way sooner than she got it. She's literally the WHOLE ENTIRE PACKAGE. She should not have been passed over time and time again before finally getting recognized.
Finally somebody talked about Keke
Exactly
I been loving Keke since jump in
I'm not gonna lie, I'm happy that it took some time because it gave her the time to think about what she actually wanted to do along with the loving parents she had that didn't push her unhappiness aside. Plus she got to work with some amazing black actors and actresses.
Facts
China Anne McClain is a vibe. She is so perfect and talented. Her tiktok and IG is everything
Girl yes! Her speech that they show in this video was some real shit 👏🏾💯
Ikr
She recently gave her life to Christ 🤍
I love her so much, and her being a Christian is the cherry on top! Much success and love to her.
Truly blessed by the most high God ❤️
they’d rather put “another” women on the cover that’s OVER tanned, OVER done lip fillers, fake curly hair, and a fake body. Before they put the REAL deal on there. and I said what I said. 🤷🏾♀️
No lie detected ❤️
U said what u said 👏🏾
And ? If biracial girls can represent black girls other non black girls can too. Black people play themselves with "we all black" rethoric.
@@profaneinquest3785 And what? What you just said is dumb. How is a non-black person going to play a black person? Would you say the say the same for a non-white person being played by a black person? Educate yourself cause you seem clueless.
@@Retrofuturejoon Dumb? Yes it's is. But it's happening non black women play black women characters ALL the time. Even the iconic one like Storm has never been played by a black actress. And when some like-minded black people spoke about it, the black "community" try to gaslight them to silence. It's been happening for decades.
china’s journey breaks my heart 😞 i hope she’s continuing on her spiritual journey and healing. these women deserved so much more. these women deserve so much more.
i feel like disney always has the black actors having a white best friend for “diversity” but instead of just always including white people put some asian, indian, hispanic friends not just white
edit: yes i am aware at indian is asian, my apologies
Yeah its lazy
RIGHT
Indians are Asians
@@hamianagrande They may have meant Native American who is often referred to as "Indians"
@@hamianagrande i think it might be because in america asian tends to refer to mainly east asians
They did Cocoa Jones so wrong. She is literally sooooo talented and gorgeous!!!! How can anyone be so blind about that? I’m so ready for her time to shine, she is a star frfr! Long overdue.
I feel so sorry all the Black Girls🙏🏾💖💞😔
very very very gorgegous
Fr she has the whole package.
Yessssssss
Creative control. Corporations like Disney, Nickelodeon who are dominantly white in production will market to majority white audience. Hence why there is only a handful of tv shows / sitcoms on those networks with an all black / biracial cast. Give black / biracial creatives freedom to create ANYTHING and they will reach such great heights but instead the execs and production cast will downplay them saying they wont sell or do high numbers which is a lie.
I hated how they always had a white best friend as if every black girl has a white best friend 😑😑😑😑
Chile...pleaseeeee for why? To tell her how to bathe? Honey Disney need a real dragging. White people just upset about black people. Something up they control the resources and #staypressed... a black people build America suh dem can gwan ole drankcrow dem! #vulturesquad !
@Marica Well considering that not every white girl has a black friend I think its a fair statement.
@꧄𒀰꧄𒈙꧄𒈙꧄𒈙𒈙𒀰𒀰𒈙꧄𒈙𒀰𒈙 𒈙꧄𒈙꧄𒈙𒈙𒀰𒀰𒈙꧄ ꧄𒀰꧄ Yeah this comment sounds a little weird but I kinda get what they mean, could've been worded better thi
I agree with you why can’t the sisters stick together
Facts never had a white friend, I only had African and Caribbean besties. That white best friend never related to me 🤷🏾♀️
Thanks for highlighting these women. All the struggles behind the scenes that they faced… not surprised, but I am even more proud of them still standing strong. I’m forever grateful for their contribution. Well done!✨✨
China wasn't wrong about that responsibility. The people we do have who create are NOT very responsible with our image.
When you said China, I thought you meant the country. I was wondering were it was going....
I’m so sick of the mammy and pappys. The awkward one black friend. I want to support but not that content.
@Erwin Lii Tyler Perry chooses to display our image as tragedy with a hope of redemption. We are tired of Tyler's brokenness in his stories. We want positivity. That is something Peele, Duvernay, and possibly Rhimes highlight for us. We need more creative outlets that do this...I agree.
I’m so proud of her!!
This here.
Mermaids as an ancient mythology along with sirens?
Were monsters that ate people.
But since ariel's debut back in 1885 and hans christian andersens tale of romance and sacrifice.
Now mermaids are people to be loved.
So....since they're to be loved....now mermaids are only white women full of romance, angst, and ready to betray their king to marry a prince.
What?
Oh...
And apparently mermen are fan fiction.
Let that sink in....
Mermaids a d sirens are known monsters that kill and eat sailors.
How did they become beautiful white women to be fought over as a character portrayal?
Is it demographic? Or do white people actually believe they would be white if they lived under the surface of the ocean?
Jesus fuck.....
tia and tamera literally had me in tears she said it still effects her today, they are beautiful and are legends/icons
America must have forgot that the twins and their brother are biracial
@@christianpool vanessa hudgens is biracial as well but she gets white girl treatment bc she looks white, tia and tamera get black girl treatment because they look black
@@sarahisalazar4668 tia and tamera look biracial not black.
@@lilmizzije yea, but the the goal is to look as white as possible, and they do not look white
@@sarahisalazar4668 they benefited from being biracial/half white, that alone puts them ahead of monoracial black women.
Every movie be like: Put Zendaya in for diversity.
Lol.
Also- the Winter Soldier is mine hon! 😜
Her look 8s not diverse enough. We need more actresses with darker melatonin on these shows. We exist too. I think is speaking out in these comments makes us heard. actresses
@@MsTWang one thing you can say for sure tho- they gave Peter Parker a preference for black women (even if Zendaya is only half) because the first girl he was in love with was definitely black, although ironically her character was biracial, with a white dad and black mom.. but then they made her dad the bad guy that Peter sent to prison. Yikes. 😬
YOOOOOOO!!!!!!! Too much thuth 🤦🏾
yessir
I currently work in film /tv and this is definitely still an issue on set, there is NEVER anybody that knows how to style natural hair that is 4c or similar. Everybody has to style their own hair or deal with a stylist that is going to RUIN their hair in like 5 seconds and insist on doing it even though they have no idea what they are doing.
Imagine looking at someone as beautiful as Coco Jones and saying "that won't sell"
Lol i know. Coco is drop dead gorgeous. When i saw the thumbnail i was thinking omg who is that?! Wow.
Right!! All of her pictures in this video were FLAWLESS
Coco is a very beautiful women I like that one song she sings on UA-cam let me check it
It's bc her personality
true shes very pretty
As a nerd I saw up close all the backlash that Zendaya suffered when she was cast as MJ and that made me sick. It was clearly for racist reasons. I'm glad that today she is too busy winning an Emmy to give a f*ck about em.
I read too fast and thought you were saying the directors are racist for casting a black women then I read the whole thing properly lol, but yeah I don't know why everyone threw a tantrum for them casting a black woman.
@@ihatefurriesxxx because a lot of spider man fans remember MJ as a white woman and some people want to see things how they are
@@gadoofy5850 yeah
I remember that backlash Michel
@I Dk what?! No she’s not
The industry: “bLacK wOmEn ArEnT mArkEtaBLe” “ ThEy wOnT SaLe”
Me: nooooooooo they will, y’all just have some wack tacky ass writers and ideas 🙄
Our swag sells when other ppl mimic it smh
They want to mimic us but never give credit where credit is due nor do they want our struggle. Periodt.
However they stay copying us
It’s a fear of being in the spotlight. They want themselves in the forefront and put more effort into production and writing etc. a LOT more effort.
@@fruitsarelife148 exactly!!
I love that you did not censor China's walk with Christ. THANK YOU for respecting ALL of her truth!
And PERIOD to the clips of CoCo's experiences. You're telling the entireeee truth
China ran from that Hollywood culture almost got her 😳 like it caught raven and orlando
Why is no one talking about how there was supposed to be another let it shine movie? I’m pissed!
Forreal that's so dissapointing
I didn’t know that
@RevisedVibez what why not????
WHAT
We would’ve gotten a That’s So Raven Movie as well 🥲🥲🥲
Coco jones was done the MOST dirty to me
Right! I agree!
Yes her stories made me tear up
I agree
People talk about pretty privilege.. this girl should have had it lol but of course she isnt light or ambigious enough
Coco literally has the face that has been made marketable by plastic surgeon's. She's gorgeous!
But that's what white society does, tell black people "you ugly", then take "your look" and market it for 10's of thousands of dollars for 100% profit.
This!!!! So true.
That part‼️ That’s witchcraft indeed, this is my thoughts exactly, when instagram-model will do everything and anything to have her skin tone by black fishing, her voluptuous lips by cosmetics procedure like fillers ( à la Kylie Jenner and co), they even created digital models instead of hiring real dark skin black women; because they prefer the fake one over the blueprint, OG black women, this is insannity, ludicrous and preposterous to say the least😤🙄🤦🏾♀️
Don't sell out Repent! Yahusha died for u bc He l's u! He is coming back soon DO NOT take the mark of the beast vaccine!
@@kilimanjaro5537 it has nothing to do with “white people” everyone’s always thought she was pretty.
I wish i could like this comment a thousand times. SO TRUE
I am impressed with Empressive!! I also was so proud to be a chocolate sista and have all my sistas standing up and together for each other!!! Thanks so much to you all!!
Coco is so stunning. I hope she gets her break and doesn't give up on the acting and singing.
She’s drop dead gorgeous
Coco is beautiful young woman. Plus she has mad pipes. That girl can sing.
@@dashiajames1882 Coco is drop dead gorge but she is not Black-eish enough to succeed. unambiguous african features don't work anywhere in america. we need to stop pretending its cos she darker.
@@PHlophe idc. she can still make it. saying this will only bring her down. let’s stop with this pls. bc not every successful black women has ambiguous features and we know it. even you could name a few
Shes STUNNNINGGGG
I just don't want the black actresses of this generation become like Lindsay Lohan, Amanda Bynes and others.
They won’t and haven’t. They carry too much on their shoulders. If they fuck up, we all do...
That’s never happened though? So why you calling stuff on them like this?😑🙄 Also, Amanda Barnes had a breakdown bc she was being severely abused by her father and the industry. None of these things that the industry does is okay. These industry ppl think the general population should be licking their arse hairs... Just no. Why pit these stars against eachother?? Just no.
@@samie7025 i'm not calling this stuff on them. I'm not the only one who doesn't want this happen to them. That's all.
@@missekevu33 talk about some pressure...
Me either.
Disney gained most of their popularity from black stars and when they finally lost them all people lost interest.
Then they bought popularity and fan base when they bought Marvel/DC
Tell that to Hanna Montana, Lizzy McGuire and the Mickey Mouse Club with Britney Spears, Justin Timberlake. White girls were tuning in to see, Zac Efron, Cole Sprouse, Joe Jonas, Shia LaBeouf etc., etc.. Disney is mostly oriented toward white youth. Sure it had some diversity but keep it in perspective.
@@ctruth6185 yea cause I remember watching disney as a kid and the only blck shows were thats so raven and proud family. The other shows were even Steven's, lizzie Mcguire, bug juice,phil of the future
@@ctruth6185 disneys legacy is built on racisim its well known that walt disney had racist and sexist views views so its no suprise
@@juliewilliams8184 👏👏👏👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
I love this video so much, I love the way that they portrayed how strong these black women growing up in Disney were and still are. And I just hope this video review reaches the people that decide to go into the industry and really give them a better perspective on how they should go about it.
I read somewhere that in Sister Sister, Ray was originally written as a millionaire living in a mansion and owned multiple limousines and other luxury vehicles, but the producers reduced his character to an upper middle class man with a limousine business because at the time they thought Ray being black and wealthy just didn't make sense. Shame on them.
I don’t think it was a bad idea (well, obviously because it turned out to be a success).
Personally, I appreciate that it was middle class family rather than a wealthy high class family. Statistically back in the 90s, the average black household was low class and this was also during or little after the crack cocaine epidemic.
I believe having a middle class black family on tv had a more positive impact for black families, because it looked like an attainable goal a true representation that did exist for some middle class black families. Also, it showed to their white counterparts that black people can “function” within “their” society and shouldn’t be perceived as a threat. Watching those tv shows made me believe I could have what I saw on tv, it just seemed realistic.
And I can bet if the show did run with a high class wealthy family, it wouldn’t have been such a success. At that time, it would appear to sell a fantasy, cause the average black person was not living like that unless their profession was a doctor (Cosby show), lawyer, etc. And I don’t think black people were interested in fantasies at that time, considering they had to deal with real issues.
There is a time and place for everything. People are not born running. They crawl, stand, walk, jog, and then run. It just seemed that was the right move to make.
Thats fucked up their reasoning that it but it did make it more realistic.
I actually think it was a good choice. Ofc their reasoning is out of focus, but during that time period it was more common for black people to not be very wealthy. I feel as though being middle class makes a bigger impact? If that makes sense. Altho it would be cool to see wealthy black people.
@@idontknowreally2474 Lemme tell you about a little show called The Fresh Prince of Bel Air😂😂😂
The reason for why they did that is so bad but idk about that because a majority of the cast is black so why would they have all the characters be black except for ray? Also, in a way it made the show better because it made it more reasonable and relatable. I don't think it would've been that good if Ray was rich.
China Anne McClain has grown to be such a beautiful young woman inside and out.
Well this didn't age well
@@milodag7638 What did she do?
The
Yes!
Definitely but it sucks she keeps getting on the internet and spewing nonsense
How they gonna tell a 7 year old she getting fat?
because it's not okay for humans to get fat, even children and especially women.
@@lethabo713 what the actual living fuck
@@lethabo713 You know what's not healthy? Fixating on other people's looks and dictating what they should and should not do with their bodies, especially women
@@lethabo713 Did you know that body shaming children will make them eat more/less? Child body shamers are the ones causing most children to end up fat/anorexic. Don’t force your stupid body standards on children. Children are meant to grow into their looks, let children grow.
@@lethabo713tf is wrong with you??
Thank you for making this. I knew about the racism but knowing the details is heart breaking. More people need to see this.
White people: bUt aReIl iSnT bLaK. tHe lItTlE mErMaId iSn'T blaK".
Me: Well, she gon be black today. She gon be black today.
For real. The stuff that they said about Halle made me sick. I understand it’s people’s childhood, but there was no reason for them to do what they did. I am really proud of her for handling the hate so well and I’m sure she will do great in the role.
Unpopular opinion: it's ok to leave a movie based on a Danish (white) folklore with a white lead. Does that mean we shouldn't have black leads ? No. Does that mean that its important to keep that respect to the roots of an original piece? Most definitely . Representation does not mean rob a different culture of that. They shoulda created something new for her. Better yet we should create something better. As black people we need to stop relying on the white industry to give us that validation through representation. WE CAN DO IT FOR OURSELVE BY OURSELVES. stop relying on your oppressors for validation. It doesn't make sense
@Donae Campbell Totally agree, we are always asking white people for representation while stating that they don't want to see us succeed...then why ask anything from them? We should focus on building our own community.
also Disney is just lazy with those live actions movies. They should be creating new characters and stories. Tbh I don't think Ariel is being robbed of anything. She will always be known as the red hair , green eyes siren, no matter who play her. It's like when Brandy played Cinderella in 1997, it was cute and that's it. I've never see anyone think cinderella is black because of that.
You saw the tiktok 🤣
‘SHE GON BE BLACK TODAY’ 😤🤪
@@donaecampbell4303 the Disney film was very loosly based off of the source material the music in the Disney version is mostly Caribbean which isn't Danish at all, at that point it doesn't matter what race Ariel is played as. Folks didn't care about it being originally a Danish folk tale until a black woman was playing Ariel. Disney themselves didn't respect the source material they did their own spin on it, and with the live action version their doing the same thing they did with their 90s version. This movies isn't a good example with the point you're trying to make.
i'm proud of Zendaya for all she's accomplished. and I'm glad she realizes the privileged position she's in and she uses her privilege to do the right thing and stand by her people.
I like her music, she has a pretty voice
shes not even black, shes biracial
@@thedumbscarecrow cool, I had a biracial roommate once
@@thedumbscarecrow Black and White but black too, and she's aware of her lightskin privileges
@@thedumbscarecrow her father is black she’s black yes she’s mixed is mixed black .
Coco Jones is gorgeous. Who are these people dictating who is beautiful/marketable because they are not it.
"Beautiful " and "marketable " means white or as close to white as possible. They don't care about talent or how beautiful they really are.
You know who. SMDH!
Cant stand all these culturally clueless people in these prominent roles...that end up hurting their careers. SMH! Whatever
Now that I’m older I never realized how beautiful she is😍😍😍😍😍 her name really suits her. Shame on them for thinking she isn’t marketable and not believing her
White men
Don't sell out Repent! Yahusha died for u bc He l's u! He is coming back soon DO NOT take the mark of the beast vaccine!
raven was literally my childhood, I loved her and hearing what she had to go through when she was with disney is literally disgusting, I can't even imagine how it feels to be treated like that at such a young age
Raven needs to be given WAYYYYYY more props for the things she’s done . She was literally THE Disney star 😢 she’s on Lucille Balls level
Yaaas girl omg
Very good comparison.
She was in alot more disney movies and projects that wont listed example Princess Diaries, Zenon and another movie I think it involved some Christmas gift
@@chocobunbun her skits on the show always reminded me of Lucille’s style of comedy
@@TheAllyson25 exactly! She was high key involved in a lot of Disneys most successful productions (Cheerah girls!)
The issue is they refuse to have little white girls saying they want to be like a black girl. However its ok for our little black girls to look at the white girls and want to be like them.
BINGO
Yesss I never thought about it like that! So true
Yesss!!! Wowww!! Your brain thought level was💯
Facts. No blk jojo siwa. It's by design. But it's up to us to promote our own.
Same tactic they've been using since the Elvis days. They couldn't fathom white teens rocking out to black rock musicians back in the day so they pushed Elvis, despite Elvis ripping off plenty of black musicians at that time. Elvis got fame and fortune while the black artists he ripped off weren't nearly as popular or rich as he was
It hurts my heart to see how black women are treated by some black men and by other men in the industry and in the world but to struggles comes triumph all these women that was featured on this content are beautiful black queens that are going to be a force to be reckoned with when they find a true identity and a true self and become who they are
How did Coco not fit the look. She literally has the look. She’s just dark skinned. Ugh
@@glizzyydmakeyadizzy2859 WELL THAT SHOULDNT BE NORMALIZED GOOFY
@@chocolatecream5593 you know 🙄
not mixed/amibigous enough. Please can you name a full black darkskin actress who had their own show on disney channel starting from? I actually want to know because i cant
@@abayomiusi7744 ladies i know its because shes dark skinned. but her features aside from her skin color are whats wanted.
@@glizzyydmakeyadizzy2859 neither is colourism goofy
They told a 7 year old she was getting fat?
That's a dayum shame. I'm like what the hell did her parents say and why did they speak directly to her....."Now look here hun, do not eat any more snacks, or food on the set - you're getting chubby...". But then again, my bro told me the same thing when I was little and I believed the hype - still love junk food to this day tho!
Black girls aren't seen as little girls for some reason
Ikr, like wtf? Plus I bet it was just her baby fat. Like a 7 year old can't be a little chunky?
It's not a race thing. It's a very common occurrence in real life. It might not seem right but it's really common regardless of skin.
They did the same thing to Janet Jackson.
Intro 0:00-0:51
Raven Simone 0:52- 5:05
Keke Palmer 5:06-10:36
Tia & Tamera Mowry 10:37-12:09
Skai Jackson 12:10-12:55
Kyla Pratt 12:56-13:49
Creative control in the entertainment industry 13:50-14:10
Skai Jackson 14:11- 15:25
Monique Coleman 15:26 -16:19
China Anne McClain 16:20-22:31
Storm Reid/Halle Bailey 22:32 -24:44
CoCo Jones 24:45-30:10
Fitting into Disney 30:11-31:52
Colorism 31:53-33:02
CoCo Jones 33:01-34:29
Zendaya 34:30
Thank you!!
🙏🏽❤️
Thank you SO MUCH
You’re the goat!!!
Appreciate you 💖
I noticed how every little Disney channel actor after that’s so raven would literally copy all of Ravens mannerisms and facial expressions. 😂 Raven was their holy grail.
Raven hasn’t even touched her Cosby show money. That’s how rich she is
Could you imagine 🤔 lol
Yes they got paid 100k each episode
that’s how smart she is, she knows how to spend her money
I’m so happy and glad for her people tried to make it out that’s she was crazy at one point but she knows what she’s doing she remains booked and busy.
Smart
Can we talk about the fact that Disney made so much money being diverse and having black tv shows yet they refuse to bring it back. Which means, even knowing we bring in revenue they refuse to show us 🙃
True
Black Women are so beautiful, its very frustrating, the black community goes through so much that no one knows about. Im so proud of these Black women that have came out especially coco
Coco???
@@Kaesar24 Yes, she was the darkest one, pretty much explains itself.
👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
but yet the black community let other groups such as middleasterners n illegals immigrats take their black civilrights, but non of them fought for your civilrights, because many of them where also mpart of the oppressers, depends where wich demographic they came from
@@donlemontte2280 we shouldn’t have to fight for basic human right because it should have been normal for blacks to be treated equally when that law was passed long ago. Plus they are fighting for equality threw BLM
I love that raven came out. She finally got to show us who she really is and not hide behind a brand. I thought it was so cute when she said that she would have a husband who would be my friend😂❤️
China-Anne McClain is the most *authentic* celebrity I know.
Don't sell out Repent! Yahusha died for u bc He l's u! He is coming back soon DO NOT take the mark of the beast vaccine!
Yes she is.
@@starduststudios5671 HAHA I TOOK THE VACCINE AND I STARTED TO HAVE DEMONIC SATANIC LAUGHING. IT WON'T STOP I JUST LOVE IT SPREAD THE VACCINE. I don't care, the vaccine will be everywhere and so will the masks
@@starduststudios5671 The vaccine is in ur food, it has been contaminated how do you feel?
@@yavinahmed3389 You are being adamantly discourteous towards someone who warned you about a fact that’s so crucial for no reason! Believe in Jesus today, Not tomorrow ❤️🙏🏾
That’s why it kills me that Disney is trying soo hard to be all “woke” now. They have a bad reputation for lack of diversity in general I mean look at how many black animated Disney characters there are.
Exactly. They had the nerve to show black lives matter stuff last year i was laughing so hard. Disney and Nick are hypocrites
@@lunarspace1196 disney channel didn’t show a Black Lives Matter commercial until Nickelodeon did very sad acting like raven didn’t give them noreirty.
Disney doesn't do that many human animated characters. Sounds like you're reaching way back to 89 with the Little Mermaid. Look at their recent stuff that has had human character Coco - Mexican .. Moana - Poly.
@@wanzyxlanzy1886 i feel like nickelodeon tried to do more tho. They even had a whole segment thing, hosted by Keke Palmer and even explained the BLM movement, and what happened to geroge Floyd to kids over video call.
@@jimduggan8962 theyre are getting better in the animation industry, but not when it comes to actual people.
The irony of Disney to have an episode of The Suite Life where they talk about being happy with your size and yet tell Raven that she was too fat to do a concert, and for them to have an episode of That's So Raven where they talk about discriminating against black people by not hiring them and then tell Coco Jones that she was too black to have a role. Disney is all talk and that's all they will ever be.
What do you expect when the founder was a nazi sympathiser!?!
@@woomeebly Ya learn something new everyday because I did not know that! I did know that Disney was racist though, which is why I’m not even surprised and why I said Disney is all talk. Smfh.
They also had an episode of That’s So Raven about raven modeling and standing up to the agency who wants her to be stick thin and being comfortable modeling her design in her natural size. Yet they do that to her
@@silversoulss5663 Raven also was executive producer for her show, so those concepts mightve been hers to bring awareness to the topic
They were trying to call her old. The bigger she would get the more she looked her age. Raven was in her 20s into 30s, playing a teenager. They wanted to keep her as young as possible but HUAMNS don’t work that way. But Raven brought them a lot of money so rather than waste resources on finding a new black girl (probably why Kekes show got scrapped), keep the one you have that has a cult following of black girls...
Wow! I'm a subscriber and I'm just coming across this ....This literally had me in tears. I am so proud of these young ladies for speaking their truths. We need to expose this colorism thing in Hollywood. Being a woman of a darker complexion I understand that feeling.. I especially admire Zendaya for being so honest about noticing certain privileges.I pray they all gain the power and success to create change for girls like my daughter who dreams of singing and acting..###Blackgirlmagic###
That's a shame they dogged Raven for her weight as bad as they did. She wasn't even fat either! She was just becoming a GROWN WOMAN. Some of us just get thicker as we age.
Well remember Disney wants them looking like children even when they are full grown adults. It's the reason Zach Effron got fed up with them. Like yeah he's not going to look like a teenage boy forever. There's something creepy and disturbing in that when you think about it.
I remember looking at pictures of myself before, during and after puberty. Before I was thin, during I got chubby (age 9-11) and after I thinned out.
They did the same to Shirley Temple, her parents backed her when she said take a hike!
@@TVwriter23 And look where he is now, went through drug addiction and changing up his face. I feel for the disney stars.
I loved seeing a not super skinny girl on tv, it was so inspiring and I saw myself in her. Representation really does matter. After she left Disney literally had all white stars for a while
Another thing: is so sad how whenever we think of beauty and we relate black woman most people only think of Zendaya. She’s gorgeous, beautiful and an amazing person, but it just shows how there is almost no black representation on the media.
No black peoples under the planet sees her as a black girl. She does a commercial in my country and she is a mix girl. Only in the USA to be seen cool black colorblind people called her black. White people will never called her black, only black americans
@Who damn Cares (Probably not Disney-based, but) whenever I "think of beauty & relate black woman", I usually think of someone like Megan Thee Stallion or Inayah or Ashanti, tbh...
@@tweetyslife253 For real! Outside of the US the only people that would think she is black are those that very americanized. When people say "yah but to white people she is black" and then complain about white people casting biracial women ONLY lmao what a contradiction. White people know the difference and the truth is the only white people who call biracial people black, arent doing it because that is what they think, but because that is what most biracial people in america call themselvs so to be PC they literally just go with it
@@tweetyslife253 Actually true! I’m actually Brazilian, not american but what I meant by that was that tv shows/ movies cast Zendaya as some character and think they’re the most diverse show in the world because they casted a woman of color.
@@l8diva Yeah like I think Adut, Halima, Saweetie and Pinterest black women.
It's wild to me that all the shows I loved growing up, Proud Family, Sister Sister, My Wife and Kids, Thats So Raven, all had black leads but somehow they pushed all these amazing shows to the side and said "black doesn't sell".
China was House of Payne before Disney Channel
It's so stupid they say 'black doesn't sell' considering all those Disney movies and shows that starred black girls were hella popular. It's just racism/colorism at this point.
@@mimistardust3915 it is sad and I bet Disney made money, a substantial amount of money off those shows!!!
@@mimistardust3915 It's about the power structure! A certain race would rather destroy everything and anyone that threatens that structure (money, decision making, control).
@@mimistardust3915 it’s jealousy at this point in my eyes
Skai Jackson is so well-spoken, especially being so young in some of those clips. Damn.
Raven DID THE MF THING FOR DISNEY. After that you started to see a whole lot of teens come out with shows with the same narrative. To produce and direct your own show at a young age, that’s big. Disney never treated black teens right. They always have to work extra hard just to make something happen. Smh she had to fight Disney just to get the idea out there and then they wanted her to play CHELSEE and annaliese play Raven. Annaliese and Raven both agreed that they roles should be switched and then Raven fought to get Orlando onboard. Disney didn’t like the whole black family thing . It was originally supposed to be like mixed ish. Raven is the one that fought that to have a black mother and a black father who were both successful, a lawyer and a professional chef and restaurant owner, I’m proud of her. Still years later, it was the best comedy teen sitcom Disney ever had. Now her new show Raven home is on the same path. Raven had been in this business since she was 3. Hella talented, Disney almost played themselves.
Yeeeesssssss
The saddest part was how in Let it Shine Coco's character's story was basically about a girl who gets that record deal and becomes famous but the producers change her so she is "sellable" and dont let her sing her own music and stuff and later that actually happens with Coco irl
omg i never noticed ):
Didn't the same thing happened with Raven in the Cheetah Girls not saying it related to her in real life
The same with rags
It's the industry standard. They are so arrogant they like to show us what they do.
Let it Shine is such a underrated movie.
Hollyweird never wanna admit that they need us.... Our ppl are so creative and talented they hate us because they ain't us 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
Yes they're very jelous of us.
Don't sell out Repent! Yahusha died for u bc He l's u! He is coming back soon DO NOT take the mark of the beast vaccine!
Thanks Sis for highlighting these beautiful ladies that we adore so much! They will always be Queens in my eyes! I am 37 and my family recently binged on That's So Raven, because of RAVEN!! Love her to the moon and back! And I love how Zendaya is speaking out for her people!
Coco Jones looks like she could be Jennifer Hudson's daughter ☺️
Yes! I was thinking the same too.🙂
I’ve always said that!!!
A lot of people say that
I said the samething
Yessss
China's statement rings so true, "Representation Matters" and "Create responsibly". More women of color that are creating their own production agencies ; I'm here for it!
I’m a 21 year old black female cartoonist and I want to have my own animation production company!
Mark my words, I’ll do it! 🙌🏾
@@DesignzRUs1 wishing you all the success in the world!! 💛
Here for it @Alisa Mosley!!!!!
@@ellenicoletv4095 Thank you so much! ♥️💕
@@DesignzRUs1 girl I can’t wait to see you succeed. I know you gonna go far.
Marsai Martin (the little girl from Blackish) is producing a Disney show with dark skin black girls and the main character has sickle cell. We have to support her! 😤😤😤
She was in the best movie ever too aka Little ANd she produced it
Love marsai !
:O wow do you know what it’s gonna be called
Someone in my family had sickle cell
Wow really. That would be great ..I have sickle cell & that would make me happy to feel represented
every one of these beautiful women inspire me. they deserve so much more than what the industry dealt them. i’m glad they are able to tell their stories and that people are opening their eyes.
OMG-ESUS
As a kid, I admired raven and finally saw myself in her because she looked normal! I was a big kid and seeing her not be stick thin like the other Disney girls, I didn’t feel bad about myself for once. Years later when she finally came out, that strengthened my love for her because I was queer as well and hid until adulthood!
I admire women like China so much - she’s such an inspiration for being strong in her faith and her character, even with all the craziness the industry threw at her. Through her, so many young black women realize that it’s possible to do what you love without sacrificing who you are; and the world needs more of that! I pray that God continues to guide her and bless her, and I can’t wait to see all the things she creates!
China is my favorite Disney star. GOD HAS A PLAN FOR THAT WOMAN!!
@@throughthewintersministry1541 Amen!
Hallelujah!!!! I love finding out that popular people are Christians. Darcy Lynn and Micarah Tewers are thankfully Christians and I just found out that China Anne McClain is a Christian! 😊🎊✨
what’d she do ?
alxandro she didn't hide the fact that she was a Christian. I love thar