@@jamilesimplicio2163 I think I had switched them because Carlos is so loving, caring, protector, and comes from an (I'm guessing) big family since sisters were mentioned I believe. While TK's parents had a complicated marriage, relationship, and divorce. They have also had other complicated relationships and marriages after each other and then the whole messy reunion thing. I thought after that and how TK himself is a hot mess, that he didn't think he was dad material, nor did he want to be. Interesting that the show flipped them, but I get Carlos's reasoning.
So they switched the roles, how big an innovation is that! And aren't they already living together as husbands to make the big issue out of wedding as if the state wasn't allowing them..
Carlos saying: "You also assumed I didn't have a wife" and "I'm also good with horses, something else that you probably didn't know" always make me laugh so much😂😂😂😂😂
The start of this reminds me of when TK and Carlos came back from the market after running into his parents and Carlos was making light of it, trying to avoid talking about what the problem really was which worked TK up even more...love Carlitos but he does tend to deflect and keep things buried.
I don't understand why this trope is so common on TV. How many couples actually go years building a life together and literally never have this conversation?
I spent over 2 years with someone then we had the conversation, he really wanted kids and I didn't. We broke up literally straight away after having the conversation.
@@emilydickinson5422 it's different when you are gay and two men, when you are heterosexual the conversation comes up straight away in the form of birth control, you think about whether you want babies right from the start. We were just enjoying each others company and also we were long distance for a bit.
We will see if that purse this story line but at the end of the TK really wants it will happen. Carlos does whatever his love wants. Hell even gave him an even bigger lizard. We'll just have to see next season if kids are in the picture.
TK has definitely grown a LOT this season. I was disappointed about Carlos’ marriage to Iris, but I think he told TK when he did cause by that point TK had matured enough to not walk out when things get rough (he did that PLENTY of times). And I feel like because TK has matured so much, Carlos hasn’t felt the need to be Mr. Perfect and so he’s been more expressive about his negative feelings. I guess it’s a common phenomena, when you get familiar enough with someone, you become comfortable enough to not be so perfect.
Carlos is the master at always keeping very significant information secret and just blindsiding TK with them later on. Smh 😒 but that doesn't lessen my love for you Carlos! ❤
At this point he is clear that he never wants to have kids. And TK needs to stay with that knowledge. Either can change their minds at any point later on.
I remembered TK previously mentioned he wanted to have kids previously when he was with Owen I guessed he didn't have a proper complete family growing up where his parents aren't around together at the same time often, as Owen was busy when he was a child and as an adult, he hardly get to see his Mum. His parents were divorced and end up didn't get back together. So it's quite natural he wanted to have a complete family of his own. Carlos on the other hand probably depict a typical gay man growing up in a traditional family. The mindset usually will say they don't want kids. But I'm sure it just takes time for him to eventually will have a kid with TK. If Carlos ended up with someone who doesn't want a kid, then they won't have kid. But he is with TK, so that will definitely change (:
I bet this issue is going to be a turn point for the next season. Tk wanna be a father whereas Carlos doesn't. They've their own reasons but this issue will pop up for sure.
It’s weird to me when people like TK are more worried about having kids than being with their partner. Sometimes it’s a make or break in a relationship, but my partner will always be more important to me than the potential of having kids
Carlos talking about the pet lizard they brought home and let it back into the wilds after 5mins so relatable.it’s me exactly not wanting to be a mom to human but thought I could be to a pet dog.but just after 6days of adopting a dog and bringing him home,today I had to return him,I’m feeling a lot of things right now but I’m giving myself grace and understanding fully that I don’t want to be a mom at all!! not to human/pet not today or tomorrow or future parenting is just not for me!!!
You know what...imo Carlos could have just easily said that he doesnt want kids cause of his own insecurities of being a father, just as he told his mum instead of all these reasons to cover the fact. Makes TK feel crazy. As i said, IMO
TK has no business thinking about becoming a parent until he finds a way to stop ending up in comas all the time. Carlos doesn't want to have to raise kids alone because TK is flirting with death. Again.
There's a debate on PBD whether carlos is an ISFP or INFP, judging from here that he's good with kids but doesn't want one, I'm gonna go with ISFP, (tho I'm INTJ, I'm like ISFP sometimes. I don't want kids but I used to teach and the kids all love me and respect me) Same here. responsibility, nah! I will never be ready to handle someone else's life. It's too much, I just want to live my own.
This scene always gives me anxiety as someone that grew up in domestic abuse because *CARLOS ALWAYS LIES ABOUT LIFE-ALTERING THINGS FOR YEARS THEN DEFLECTS WHEN IT'S ADDRESSED!!* 😡 If I was TK, I wouldn't have gotten back with Carlos because he never learns from past mistakes.
Wtf are you on about, domestic abuse is definitely nowhere near Carlitos' centres and to be honest you could say the same thing about TK, why would Carlos constantly keep taking him back after he walked out on him multiple times ?( Isn't that the MO of someone being abused, they take them back again and aģain). I see no abuse in either Carlos' or TK's actions, they are just from two different worlds and learning off each other ( but don't opposites attract?) Just enjoy the ride and please lay off the sauce.😂
Yes Carlos does and did but you see how quickly he told TK what the problem was not like before and maybe TK in the past being flighty effects Carlos, wouldn't you be scared to tell TK big news when he could run away. And TK used to run away from things, whether a meal, a relationship, numbing things out with drugs, changing his profession but now he is sticking to his man and job so go TK. It seems to me both have improved each other and that's all we can ask in a relationship.
SHUT THE FRONT DOOR! You are accusing Carlos of Domestic abuse when the only one in this relationship to physically put their hands on the other which was DOMESTIC ABUSIVE (TK shoving Carlos aggressively 3 times at the fire station before the fire). Enjoy those drugs you are on BECAUSE YOUR MEMORY IS SHORT.
Why are you blaming this on Carlos? TK didn't tell Carlos he wanted children and Carlos didn't tell TK he doesn't want children, both are equal in their lack of communication not just Carlos. And Carlos never lied, if he had told TK he wanted children to get with him that would have been a lie. THEY BOTH ARE EQUALLY RESPONSIBLE ABOUT MAKING ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT THE OTHER.
@@sabinasabina2010 *Because it is a repeated problem with Carlos* and Carlos even admitted to his mother that he didn't tell TK he didn't want children because HE KNEW TK wouldn't want to start a long-term relationship with him.
Honestly, I always assumed it would be the other way around. Carlos would be the one who wanted kids and TK would be the one who didn't.
I had to agree I assume but that's why assuming isn't the truth
Same
@@jamilesimplicio2163 I think I had switched them because Carlos is so loving, caring, protector, and comes from an (I'm guessing) big family since sisters were mentioned I believe. While TK's parents had a complicated marriage, relationship, and divorce. They have also had other complicated relationships and marriages after each other and then the whole messy reunion thing. I thought after that and how TK himself is a hot mess, that he didn't think he was dad material, nor did he want to be. Interesting that the show flipped them, but I get Carlos's reasoning.
So they switched the roles, how big an innovation is that! And aren't they already living together as husbands to make the big issue out of wedding as if the state wasn't allowing them..
@@SnehilBhat I thought they were living together. Especially they couldn't get married since Carlos was still legally married to Iris.
i love how Carlos was joking while in a serious conversation but also speaking responsible
Carlos saying: "You also assumed I didn't have a wife" and "I'm also good with horses, something else that you probably didn't know" always make me laugh so much😂😂😂😂😂
The start of this reminds me of when TK and Carlos came back from the market after running into his parents and Carlos was making light of it, trying to avoid talking about what the problem really was which worked TK up even more...love Carlitos but he does tend to deflect and keep things buried.
Carlos is the master at always keeping important information secret and blindsiding TK with them later on. 😒
0:29 omg his eye wink.... breath taking ..... This couple seems to be over-illusioning their growing children😂😂😂😂 It's too fantastic...
Omg totally missed it thank-you
Yeah en very cute
😂 TK 'you know they allow you to bring children into New York.'😂
this was hilarious🤣🤣🤣
I don't understand why this trope is so common on TV. How many couples actually go years building a life together and literally never have this conversation?
That i don't understand either. I mean, you can't have compromises on this one. Or you want them or you don't.
A lot. I was divorced because of it. He wants kids, I don't. He just assumes I want it 😅
I spent over 2 years with someone then we had the conversation, he really wanted kids and I didn't. We broke up literally straight away after having the conversation.
@@JoJo-rz9zx no judgement, just genuinely curious, why didn't you have the kids conversation earlier in your relationship?
@@emilydickinson5422 it's different when you are gay and two men, when you are heterosexual the conversation comes up straight away in the form of birth control, you think about whether you want babies right from the start. We were just enjoying each others company and also we were long distance for a bit.
Don’t worry TK, I think all of us viewers also “just assumed” 😭
I know I did. You could've knocked me over with a feather when I heard Carlos didn't want kids.
We will see if that purse this story line but at the end of the TK really wants it will happen. Carlos does whatever his love wants. Hell even gave him an even bigger lizard. We'll just have to see next season if kids are in the picture.
Tbh I was so mad they did that thing where TK just gives up on wanting kids just cause Carlos didn’t wants some, it was clearly really important to TK
the fact that TK brought up Lou lol
Dads or no dads these two are bound to be great husbands to one another💛🌸🥂
No.
I’ve always thought Carlos wants kids…… can’t believe i thought wrong 😭
Does not want and that,all the time,Carlos is not ready yet and this is quite normal
“you’re so funny 😐”
TK!!!!!! DO NOT LET CARLOS BAMBOOZLED YOU INTO THAT 😂😂 so smooth! 😂😂😂😂
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We miss LOU 😂😂😂
TK has definitely grown a LOT this season. I was disappointed about Carlos’ marriage to Iris, but I think he told TK when he did cause by that point TK had matured enough to not walk out when things get rough (he did that PLENTY of times). And I feel like because TK has matured so much, Carlos hasn’t felt the need to be Mr. Perfect and so he’s been more expressive about his negative feelings. I guess it’s a common phenomena, when you get familiar enough with someone, you become comfortable enough to not be so perfect.
I heard the police have a warrant out for the writers arrest💀
Carlos is the master at always keeping very significant information secret and just blindsiding TK with them later on. Smh 😒 but that doesn't lessen my love for you Carlos! ❤
RIGHT?!
TK mentioned everyone's kids but not his little brother Jonah? 🤦🏻♂️
he mentioned the ones that carlos had taken care of. i dont think they ever taken care of jonah. maybe
The "you're so funny"
So does Carlos not want kids at all or does he just not want them now?
It seems he doesn’t think he will be a good father because of his own relationship with his father.
He’s just not ready yet
At this point he is clear that he never wants to have kids. And TK needs to stay with that knowledge. Either can change their minds at any point later on.
I love then Carlos kiss TK in lips 👄 ❤ it’s so sweet
Я тоже некуда деть этого пожара.
I remembered TK previously mentioned he wanted to have kids previously when he was with Owen
I guessed he didn't have a proper complete family growing up where his parents aren't around together at the same time often, as Owen was busy when he was a child and as an adult, he hardly get to see his Mum. His parents were divorced and end up didn't get back together. So it's quite natural he wanted to have a complete family of his own.
Carlos on the other hand probably depict a typical gay man growing up in a traditional family. The mindset usually will say they don't want kids. But I'm sure it just takes time for him to eventually will have a kid with TK. If Carlos ended up with someone who doesn't want a kid, then they won't have kid. But he is with TK, so that will definitely change (:
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I bet this issue is going to be a turn point for the next season. Tk wanna be a father whereas Carlos doesn't. They've their own reasons but this issue will pop up for sure.
It’s weird to me when people like TK are more worried about having kids than being with their partner. Sometimes it’s a make or break in a relationship, but my partner will always be more important to me than the potential of having kids
Poor TK😭… Carlos seems like a family man and good with kids, they should of talked about this before😕
😂😂😂😂 bless them both great story line 😊😊😊😊😊 pet lizard 😂😂😂😂😂
Carlos talking about the pet lizard they brought home and let it back into the wilds after 5mins so relatable.it’s me exactly not wanting to be a mom to human but thought I could be to a pet dog.but just after 6days of adopting a dog and bringing him home,today I had to return him,I’m feeling a lot of things right now but I’m giving myself grace and understanding fully that I don’t want to be a mom at all!! not to human/pet not today or tomorrow or future parenting is just not for me!!!
01:49 Tarlos Kissing ❤😍
You know what...imo Carlos could have just easily said that he doesnt want kids cause of his own insecurities of being a father, just as he told his mum instead of all these reasons to cover the fact.
Makes TK feel crazy.
As i said, IMO
"ur so funny 😐"
RIGHT??!! I loved that!!
I don’t blame carlos for not wanting kids
It's me Allyson neither do i, but at the same time i want them ti have them just for TK's sake
TK has no business thinking about becoming a parent until he finds a way to stop ending up in comas all the time. Carlos doesn't want to have to raise kids alone because TK is flirting with death. Again.
FLIRTING WITH DEATH 😭
Flirting with death is crazyy😅😂
There's a debate on PBD whether carlos is an ISFP or INFP, judging from here that he's good with kids but doesn't want one, I'm gonna go with ISFP, (tho I'm INTJ, I'm like ISFP sometimes. I don't want kids but I used to teach and the kids all love me and respect me) Same here. responsibility, nah! I will never be ready to handle someone else's life. It's too much, I just want to live my own.
Thank you 😊
I did like when he say he’s going make a fantastic husband ❤😮😮
This is the worst way to have this conversation.
Where can I watch it because it’s not on UA-cam 😢
Honestly this kids part pissed me off like why not
Honestly here we can find 2 opposing decisions
It's okay to not have kids. Don't let societal norms dictate how to live your life.
Emerald Green...always knew Carlos had
Some Irish in him
I know who they should get to perform the ceremony, Tommy's boyfriend isn't he a pastor?
Think it will be Paul, why else would he mention to TK he was ordained in this episode
LOL!!!! We all forgot about him!
TK e Carlos Forever 🏳️🌈🏳️🌈💕❤❤ Tarlos ❤❤🏳️🌈💕🏳️🌈
I have one question. who is father and mother. Maybe TK is mother and Carlos is father ❤😂
I hope they're real ❤❤❤
Yup, im carlos...
No cuz we had all seasons of them and they haven't had ONE a conversation about kids😭and carlos isn't the one who wants kids.
I miss Lou
Sweet 🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈❤❤❤
LOVE them❣️❣️❣️❣️
SAME❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
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How are they getting married? They fight or argue over the smallest things
whether or not they want kids isn't a small thing...
@shana6937 that's a huge issue you talk about early on. Not something you save until you're about to get married. Honey please
This doesn't have to be an argument, anyway. If TK wants kids, he could just say that and start an honest discussion instead of a sparring match.
Lindinhos ❤
не надо детей! к черту стереотипы! миллионы любящих любят и счастливы без детей, боже
This scene always gives me anxiety as someone that grew up in domestic abuse because *CARLOS ALWAYS LIES ABOUT LIFE-ALTERING THINGS FOR YEARS THEN DEFLECTS WHEN IT'S ADDRESSED!!* 😡
If I was TK, I wouldn't have gotten back with Carlos because he never learns from past mistakes.
Wtf are you on about, domestic abuse is definitely nowhere near Carlitos' centres and to be honest you could say the same thing about TK, why would Carlos constantly keep taking him back after he walked out on him multiple times ?( Isn't that the MO of someone being abused, they take them back again and aģain). I see no abuse in either Carlos' or TK's actions, they are just from two different worlds and learning off each other ( but don't opposites attract?) Just enjoy the ride and please lay off the sauce.😂
Yes Carlos does and did but you see how quickly he told TK what the problem was not like before and maybe TK in the past being flighty effects Carlos, wouldn't you be scared to tell TK big news when he could run away. And TK used to run away from things, whether a meal, a relationship, numbing things out with drugs, changing his profession but now he is sticking to his man and job so go TK. It seems to me both have improved each other and that's all we can ask in a relationship.
SHUT THE FRONT DOOR! You are accusing Carlos of Domestic abuse when the only one in this relationship to physically put their hands on the other which was DOMESTIC ABUSIVE (TK shoving Carlos aggressively 3 times at the fire station before the fire). Enjoy those drugs you are on BECAUSE YOUR MEMORY IS SHORT.
Why are you blaming this on Carlos? TK didn't tell Carlos he wanted children and Carlos didn't tell TK he doesn't want children, both are equal in their lack of communication not just Carlos. And Carlos never lied, if he had told TK he wanted children to get with him that would have been a lie. THEY BOTH ARE EQUALLY RESPONSIBLE ABOUT MAKING ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT THE OTHER.
@@sabinasabina2010 *Because it is a repeated problem with Carlos* and Carlos even admitted to his mother that he didn't tell TK he didn't want children because HE KNEW TK wouldn't want to start a long-term relationship with him.
By h i😊😅
My god the acting is bad! The actor that plays TK stands out as being a terrible actor.
No babe it’s just you