Oh, no, they experience it alright, every week as peoples salaries are garnished for taxation ... then they take this stolen money and waste it or give it away to Junk causes like Climate Change or Ukraine.
100%. Governments don't actually "help" us at all. We have to pay extra for that. They could digitise the whole government and they still wouldn't reduce government size.
WEF agenda to rid this country of the middle class only the very rich and poor the WEF agenda is you will own nothing by 2030 the proviser "and be happy😊
What on earth is going on? I've been caring for our kids for 8 years but about to return to the workforce. To think I have to now be wary of these "agreements" that undermine casual loading is just another stressor. Thank you Honourable Senator Roberts for your vigilance on this matter. I'm not on your electorate but geez I wish I had the opportunity to vote for you.
He knows exactly what is being asked and knows the answers. We all know that labour hire employees in the mining industry are being paid less than the permanent employees for doing the same job. They are not receiving award rates and it is a disgusting failure of Fairwork and the unions.
And don't receive sick leave.......!!! We fought this in the 80's and 90's. It , all gone backwards. Young blokes won't stand together, can't blame the unions, the workers are the union, weak as water...hello.
I was a casual employee until 2021 when the government brang in vaccines mandates, then scrapped them a while later but let employers keep them under employers vaccines mandates to this day. When do I and many others unvaccinated Australians get our jobs back with compensation? How about a bill to remove employers vaccines mandates?
This should be a Human Rights issue but when people tried to get their help during the plandemic they were told to F off! It is against the Nuremberg Rulings to force people to be vaccinated but it appears every law in existence can be ignored if "emergency" situations are declared. This has to be changed... but don't expect our Human Rights representatives to do anything about it.
NECA EDUCATION AND TRAINING are ripping off their labourers at BURNIE CITY COUNCIL.I've worked for them twice and was paid $6 per hour less than the people hired directly by the council, on top of having to buy my own work clothes and PPE / afety gear when they have ALL of their provided
@@ExpatChef71 no mate. it's just straight up casual rate labour hire, no different to farm harvesting except there is a full time award and the casual rate should be that plus 25% loading.. not $6 per hour less
@David-A-Rogers Ok, well, in regard to having to purchase your own PPE, if you're directly employed, it is the employers' responsibility to provide PPE. Unless there's some dodgy loophole in employment agreements. They sound like a bunch of crooks to me.
This is much the same as the US H1B laws that have Elon and Vivek in trouble already before President Trump has been inaugurated. Boeing sacked almost all of their US staff and hired imported workers from India for $9 an hour. Want to guess why Boeings have been having so many disasters lately?
David, I would be careful about claiming that a particular company is 'ripping off their workers' simply because another employer has provided additional benefits. If your employer is operating within the legal award structure, and you have accused them of breaching that award, they may have a right to come after you legally. Just because somebody has a different arrangement with their employer, doesn't automatically change your employment agreement.
These taxpayer funded millionaire bureaucrats should be able to answer any question involving their jobs fully, succinctly and accurately yet we get awkward silences, hesitation, ums and ahs, that’s confidential and take it on notice.
There's no running and hiding from this now. We're now being analysed by International investors and analysts and we're used as an example of what not to do. It's ridiculous and extremely embarrassing.
What a great country Australia is. Watching & listening to this I see wage theft rife, and then these wage thieves then are ignored when they pay no taxation to the Government. Shine your light on this filth, Malcolm Roberts let truth be seen. Now we need to act on this truth.
Sounds like lots of verbal 💩 coming from these people bet they never worked labour hire or casual in there life,what a disgrace,Thanks for bringing thiis up Malcolm
They might as well just have a sign on their empty seats saying "We will take it on notice" because that's all they ever bloody well seem to do. Any answer that is forthcoming is usually a mix of word salad anyway.
Although there are not as many nowadays some people with certain illnesses/conditions still wear masks in the mistaken belief they offer some protection from Covid. Unless they are N95 or higher quality they offer ZERO protection. Single use masks actually assist viruses to enter your nose/mouth.
Casual employees where I work earn about $5-$6 less per hour than full time employees. I only recently went full time and was quite surprised to see how much my hourly rate went up.
I remember in the 1980's when "labor hire" was introduced to smash wages and union members working conditions. A million words doesn't change what it is...wage theft.
100% Government and business always blame us of "being lazy" and not wanting to work in these jobs .. but that's a fallacy. It's not that we don't want to work, it's just that we don't want to work for the shitty below poverty wages that are being offered. And that applies in all the Western nations where the globalist corporations and governments have control. Surely we can't all be lazy. We built one of the best nations in the world and western civilisation is by far the most desired to live in. Suddenly we can't build or doing anything because we "too lazy" or "don't want to do that job" BS! If we need STEM talent then corporations need to go back to training their own staff not getting taxpayers and Uni students to pay for it... or indeed other nations to pay for it so we can pilfer their talent.
The government & its public servants have increased in numbers by over 400% since the 1960s & this big government over legislation bs has to stop because we are circling the drain with all this debt....
Working causal in the early 2000s was fantastic and making really good money and conditions and then the flood of Indian student visas flooded the industry and took over Everything including the agencies themselves
Would love a video elaborating on what exactly you’re referring to here.. as far as wage theft. I’m curious if I look into this in Canada if I will find similar theft going on: it seems we have a lot of similar shady governmental actions and policies being quietly enacted or implemented, similar govt widespread corruption going on within the commonwealth countries especially
A lot of people who are on the jobseeker payments are used as cheap labour on golf courses and other places that are associated with the staff at the labour hire office. Basically the unemployed are providing the labour hire companies with employment to the detriment of the unemployed. Labour hire companies get x amount of money per person to have them on the books and the companies are meant to provide meaningful, productive employment and training to the unemployed so they may aquire full employment.
A high profile case I recall was of a member of Kevin Rudd's family who owned a labour work force business, the family was reputed (allegedly) to be worth $180 million, whether as a cash asset or business holding I don't know, this has been going on for a long long time. I remember Romanian crews employed as subcontractors to harvest grapes locally, for a reduced rate of pay, the locals frozen out of employment they'd relied on for extra income for years, particularly the women who had a chance of earning money in this community. I'm sure business owners call this behaviour "freedom of enterprise".
I was accidently sent an invoice from a labour hire Co. The invoice was exactly 2x what i got paid. I showed the invoice to the workplace manager. I said i think it's time to consider full time employment.
I worked for a Printing/Bindind firm Gillingham Printers. The joint went into reverse before amalgamation with another, Van Gastel. Shit went belly up not due to the absorbed company. Our Superannuation was stolen to pay wages. Craig Howard Swanson Thornquest, mr Burgundy & Beef has to answer. We got fucked whilst he skipped any punishment or jail term.We ex employees are still dealing with the theft.
I have no faith or trust in the nation I was born in, in a nation I dedicated all my life to and service in the Navy for. I have no confidence in their trust or care. This is why I will never return back to Australia. I am a Former Royal Australian Navy Veteran and a amputee due to their negligence and experimentation via pharmaceuticals fkng disgrace.
Thank you for your service mate and you are right but it’s the same all over the world so don’t give up when there are people like the senator waking us all up
@GraemeMarshall-u7w I was awake over 20 years ago. I warned and tried even to communicate to Geneva council, UN and every Senator and Minister. I received no reply, no response. As a researcher and analyst I delved deep. Fabian society is only an arm of the beast that poisons deeply all we love and cherish. So now instead of anger I love as it's the only power I have. My son witnessed every step and I realized I had done enough and I had to leave with him to give him something of a chance for his future. We are beyond trying to wake people. They don't want to believe it for fear drives them to ignore. They would rather hold onto the illusion of comfort whilst prices drive them further into poverty and homelessness. We are beyond talking. We still believe our duopoly of a system will still work to save us, when the truth is that it is upto us all to raise sword and shield for the generations of our youth. No my dear brother. We are at a turning point and only few stand against the armed forces that are used against us all. God will be the adjudicator. This I know in my heart. Bless you but hope is the illusion they sell us, so that we sit back and wait to see the results.
We need real, direct answers from these "seat warmers". Having a senate hearing where, time is regulated and many questions are avoided by any and all means necessary is nothing more than a monumental joke to all those adversely affected by coniving, manipulative shysters masquerading as "in charge of and caring for the workers rights" sections of society.
All of this government involvement in labor hire and operations has gone over the top. It’s costing business so much extra to run rheir business is putting costs to operate uo,therefore costs much higher to the consumer. We need to reduce the size of the government bureaucracy & involvement in business in general. We are being turned into a Chinese system. They need all these people to answer any questions,it don’t say much for Australia’s system of so called democracy. We aren’t living in a democracy. He’s read it, and you don’t give all rhe answers to questions he asks.
If you want to see what this ultimately leads to ... look at the hotly debated H1B laws in the US that allowed Boeing to sack almost all of their US workers and import and hire Indian workers for $9 an hour. If you've wondered why there are a large amount of Boeing incidents occurring you need look no further for an explanation. And it's not just Boeing doing this. It filters down to truck driving jobs and even manual labour. All are being replaced by cheap overseas workers in the US. Elon and Vivek are in trouble for supporting the H1B because it's not what MAGA voters asked for .. in fact they want the opposite. Keep all jobs in the US for US citizens only.
They told me when I rang them over being an under paid miner. “You’re getting more than the award rate”. No help at all, except I did get told, off the record, to get an industrial lawyer. Thanks for nothing.
ATO outsourcing to ProbX is a perfect example. Staff paid less than the equivalent Public servant. In fact considerably less to the point that a retail worker is paid at a higher rate. They are expected to be at work early to set up systems and read email and respond prior to the official start time. This is wage theft.
We all know labour hire arrangements breach section 550 of the Fair Work act. Their designed to circumvent some part of the act. Any prosecution would bankrupt the relevant LH entity.
Casual employees these days are based on the minimum wage standard regardless of the eba agreement. Usually the full-time employee go with this as they are fooled by the union and don't want a Casual to be paid more than the full-time employee. The Casual rate os supposed to be 25% above the eba agreed wage. But the workplace don't want that so every single employment agency dropps down to the award. Which is actually illegal. But if you fight it then you get black band from the agencies in that industry and many other industries. As that also interferes with the agent employed by agency remuneration or bonuses. I know many agents that have brought there house based on there bonuses. It is a destroyer of the employee future. These government officials need to be fired and this system needs to be shut down.
Point is we “shouldn’t” have enterprise bargaining agreements! We had a totally workable system of wages and taxation this country decades ago, they’ve known these scams were going on, they did nothing to mitigate the damage to every Australian tax payer, we all pay tax one way or another, and they still steal more from people who have already bloodywell paid, three tumes over! They know it, and allow it to continue!
This is how Labor designed it in agreement with the unions. Don't blame employers as most EBA's are for full time employees ONLY (again agreed to by Labor and unions). Casuals are NOT covered by EBA's at all. They are Award rate employees plus whatever loading for casuals is applicable (usually 25% but not mandatory). That is how Employers cut wages by reducing full time workers and using Labour Hire casuals who they can legally pay less (thanks to changes agreed by Labor/unions).
My God these politicians hate answering questions! If they could pass a bill where it was illegal for them to be asked 1 more question they would pass it in a heartbeat.
Why do none of these people in office have any soul in their eyes, whats the hiring process for this committee? Hirer: yeah your eyes have no soul in them, no empathy, you dont feel anything for the common man do you? Hired*
There has been no resolution to the Fair Work Commission throwing an employee under the bus instead of conducting a non-biased genuine inquiry into the entire payroll. These are systemic issues not individualistic..
Why can’t these questions that are being raised by the Senator be addressed to the relevant senior public servants prior to them being ‘put on the spot? It seems a waste of everyone’s time that the questions raised cannot be addressed effectively and thoroughly in a more direct manner.
How about researching the wage theft from farmers by regulating we have a global income and regulated to buy from a very over regulated, taxed combines with index wages to inflation, all with a margin attached till it finds a farmer. This has created the situation where farm production costs rise over 10 times faster the farm gate incomes. Just divide urban wages by 10 to see how much we get paid. The worst discrimination in the history of Australia.
These officials need to get out of their bubble and see what is happening in the real world. The road Transport long distance operations is an absolute mess
The 25% represents loading for super. Holidays benifits. travel. sick leave ect. Casual employment only get paid for the hours that are worked. No other benefits. That's why the hourly rate is more than a permanent employee no work no pay. No holiday pay. No leave or loading. No super. No sick days...Ect
…my role is to provide support to…”translation” the guy getting top dollar to do his job is not capable so…I’m supporting him, Without him I would be out of a job!
I appreciate the exposure to these crimes, but I want to see recompense to the tax payer and justice served and swiftly for incompetence. It doesn't happen in any case or judgement.
There are employers in Australia who seem to believe they have a higher authority than the Fair Work Commission. Sadly most employees lack the motivation to solve this problem.
Thank you Senator labour hires are under paying workers. Companies need to get back to recruiting workers instead of going through labour hire they take workers wages 😢
The question is not about the mechanism of process. Your role as public servants is to give proper informative answers it is not to buck pass. Of course the victims of wage theft can object. Yes they will repeal your enterprise agreement, with a thank for your services here is the front door. You know you have the answers but you won’t say it in public as it just might open a Pandora’s box. These unions/public servants are conveniently in separate silos. Nobody knows or does anything. Sack the bloody lot. Transparency is non existent currently. As a tax payer I did not get anything informative out of this senate estimate committee meeting except the same old same old BS. Why do you still have a job? There’s plenty out here that could do your job as we don’t have any financial interests/gains, we are not part of the boys club. Australia needs an Audit from top to bottom by we the people.
Don’t worry guys…When the Labour Party want to tell Australians that there’s more people in work all they’ll do is re-define how the records show up in the books by lowering the hours of work each week!
Mr Roberts it is of my understanding that anyone not on a individually bargained enterprise contract(which by law must be better than the NES). Then we are all to adhere to the National enterprise scheme. NES
"Look into", means you're not going to get an answer. These people are corrupt and need sacking.
And so is the so called Coalition Liberal and National parties are as crooked as Labor 😢😮
I was forced out of two govt. depts. because I kept blowing the whistle, and shining a light where whistles and lights were prohibited.
Your right.
The gatekeepers of corruption.
Murray Watts is their champion and is always present when something particularly dodgy is being scrutinised.
you could bet your life that none of these grifters have ever experienced wage theft
Oh, no, they experience it alright, every week as peoples salaries are garnished for taxation ... then they take this stolen money and waste it or give it away to Junk causes like Climate Change or Ukraine.
Only when they are the ones doing the stealing.
You mean Thieves stands for grifters ?
Let alone a real days work.
They do, through indexation against inflation and also taxation, possibly even further, but i won't bore you with the details
These criminals have to be thrown in jail. The Labor Hire system has been a scam for 20 years plus.
What about the biggest genocide this country has ever seen due to the medication they forced everyone to take?
😂
I got an idea, let’s downsize the government by about 70% and help the people struggling to live in Australia with the $ saved
100%. Governments don't actually "help" us at all. We have to pay extra for that. They could digitise the whole government and they still wouldn't reduce government size.
We certainly would have a better country.
How about Replacing All the Crappy Politicians?
Great idea 👍
Well,that wouldn't leave to many !! We are over governed though,at all levels!!@leopoldpoppenberger8692
What the friggin hell has got into both major parties in this country....we are being sold out by them all.
WEF agenda to rid this country of the middle class only the very rich and poor the WEF agenda is you will own nothing by 2030 the proviser "and be happy😊
Simple.. Vote them out
It's called the WEF and they own the Australian Uniparty.
Don't you mean the Unity party
Share this video with many people as possible too expose, Labour corruption, with the unions.
Thank you Senator Roberts for continuing to expose the criminality of the CMFEU. 🙏
You're a bloody legend, Senator Roberts.
The parliament not have enough laws to control the Politicians from money laudering from big projects and everything
Hence the convid fiasco..
What on earth is going on? I've been caring for our kids for 8 years but about to return to the workforce. To think I have to now be wary of these "agreements" that undermine casual loading is just another stressor.
Thank you Honourable Senator Roberts for your vigilance on this matter. I'm not on your electorate but geez I wish I had the opportunity to vote for you.
Even am I but I’m putting one nation as my first priority 🇦🇺
Always read enterprise agreements carefully.
@adifferentangle7064 oh I will be. 🙏
He knows exactly what is being asked and knows the answers. We all know that labour hire employees in the mining industry are being paid less than the permanent employees for doing the same job. They are not receiving award rates and it is a disgusting failure of Fairwork and the unions.
And don't receive sick leave.......!!!
We fought this in the 80's and 90's. It , all gone backwards. Young blokes won't stand together, can't blame the unions, the workers are the union, weak as water...hello.
@@sirgregoir100% bro
I was a casual employee until 2021 when the government brang in vaccines mandates, then scrapped them a while later but let employers keep them under employers vaccines mandates to this day. When do I and many others unvaccinated Australians get our jobs back with compensation? How about a bill to remove employers vaccines mandates?
This should be a Human Rights issue but when people tried to get their help during the plandemic they were told to F off! It is against the Nuremberg Rulings to force people to be vaccinated but it appears every law in existence can be ignored if "emergency" situations are declared. This has to be changed... but don't expect our Human Rights representatives to do anything about it.
You made a choice.
@@Mack74🐑
@@Mack74 yeah the choice to embrace turbocancers or lose your job, brilliant
Good on you Steve, your a legend mate, stood strong and resisted the NWO
Be proud of yourself 🤙
I cant believe that these people hold these positions and can not answer the questions being asked. Why are we paying these people ??
..to lie, perhaps?
NECA EDUCATION AND TRAINING are ripping off their labourers at BURNIE CITY COUNCIL.I've worked for them twice and was paid $6 per hour less than the people hired directly by the council, on top of having to buy my own work clothes and PPE / afety gear when they have ALL of their provided
So they take you on, do you need to have an ABN?
@@ExpatChef71 no mate. it's just straight up casual rate labour hire, no different to farm harvesting except there is a full time award and the casual rate should be that plus 25% loading.. not $6 per hour less
@David-A-Rogers Ok, well, in regard to having to purchase your own PPE, if you're directly employed, it is the employers' responsibility to provide PPE. Unless there's some dodgy loophole in employment agreements. They sound like a bunch of crooks to me.
This is much the same as the US H1B laws that have Elon and Vivek in trouble already before President Trump has been inaugurated. Boeing sacked almost all of their US staff and hired imported workers from India for $9 an hour. Want to guess why Boeings have been having so many disasters lately?
David, I would be careful about claiming that a particular company is 'ripping off their workers' simply because another employer has provided additional benefits. If your employer is operating within the legal award structure, and you have accused them of breaching that award, they may have a right to come after you legally. Just because somebody has a different arrangement with their employer, doesn't automatically change your employment agreement.
Labor is trying to dodge your Question cause THEY know Casual workers are getting screwed
Imagine the amount of money that this meeting is costing us per hour and the outcome is?
The duplicity is shocking.
Malcolm, you are a Superstar, these self-interested suits couldn`t care less about us minions.
Why do the Citizens of Australia entrust Government for running? A Country!
Stockholm syndrome
There's NO "TRUST" about it.
@@wyattfamily8997 for once I agree with you
Because a "citi ZEN" is stupid & stupid is what stupid does!
This answers your question✔️
Vote independent in every electorate
These taxpayer funded millionaire bureaucrats should be able to answer any question involving their jobs fully, succinctly and accurately yet we get awkward silences, hesitation, ums and ahs, that’s confidential and take it on notice.
Im not going to answer you!
There's no running and hiding from this now. We're now being analysed by International investors and analysts and we're used as an example of what not to do. It's ridiculous and extremely embarrassing.
What a great country Australia is. Watching & listening to this I see wage theft rife, and then these wage thieves then are ignored when they pay no taxation to the Government. Shine your light on this filth, Malcolm Roberts let truth be seen. Now we need to act on this truth.
Sounds like lots of verbal 💩 coming from these people bet they never worked labour hire or casual in there life,what a disgrace,Thanks for bringing thiis up Malcolm
Take on notice,look into,what a waste of time and more nothing ever comes out of these meetings
They might as well just have a sign on their empty seats saying "We will take it on notice" because that's all they ever bloody well seem to do. Any answer that is forthcoming is usually a mix of word salad anyway.
"Global"? what the heaven's?
The casual employment sector within a nation type of globe
Was this meeting in 2024? Why was that women wearing a mask?
Being a good little servant trying to climb the ladder.
She's a paranoid hypochondriac nutter.
Although there are not as many nowadays some people with certain illnesses/conditions still wear masks in the mistaken belief they offer some protection from Covid. Unless they are N95 or higher quality they offer ZERO protection. Single use masks actually assist viruses to enter your nose/mouth.
Because she is an obedient slave.
Go GETEM Mr Roberts 👍🇦🇺
Casual employees where I work earn about $5-$6 less per hour than full time employees. I only recently went full time and was quite surprised to see how much my hourly rate went up.
I have worked in many places where casuals got significantly less.
The local meatworks has islanders working on contracts , these contracts are dodgy , while putting Aussies out of a job ...
I have 47% of my wage stolen every fortnight
I remember in the 1980's when "labor hire" was introduced to smash wages and union members working conditions.
A million words doesn't change what it is...wage theft.
100% Government and business always blame us of "being lazy" and not wanting to work in these jobs .. but that's a fallacy. It's not that we don't want to work, it's just that we don't want to work for the shitty below poverty wages that are being offered. And that applies in all the Western nations where the globalist corporations and governments have control. Surely we can't all be lazy. We built one of the best nations in the world and western civilisation is by far the most desired to live in. Suddenly we can't build or doing anything because we "too lazy" or "don't want to do that job" BS! If we need STEM talent then corporations need to go back to training their own staff not getting taxpayers and Uni students to pay for it... or indeed other nations to pay for it so we can pilfer their talent.
The government & its public servants have increased in numbers by over 400% since the 1960s & this big government over legislation bs has to stop because we are circling the drain with all this debt....
Working causal in the early 2000s was fantastic and making really good money and conditions and then the flood of Indian student visas flooded the industry and took over Everything including the agencies themselves
Too many empty suits n shiny shoes. What a shame we waste so much money on an echo chamber
Slipping and sliding…exhorbitant salaries for personnel that are umm….ummm, I will ask the next member, and I will look into it!!
Would love a video elaborating on what exactly you’re referring to here.. as far as wage theft. I’m curious if I look into this in Canada if I will find similar theft going on: it seems we have a lot of similar shady governmental actions and policies being quietly enacted or implemented, similar govt widespread corruption going on within the commonwealth countries especially
A lot of people who are on the jobseeker payments are used as cheap labour on golf courses and other places that are associated with the staff at the labour hire office. Basically the unemployed are providing the labour hire companies with employment to the detriment of the unemployed. Labour hire companies get x amount of money per person to have them on the books and the companies are meant to provide meaningful, productive employment and training to the unemployed so they may aquire full employment.
Just like the convict ships, the Captains got paid for the number that boarded not disembarked.
Why can’t they ever answer the question senator you are a jet keep giving it to them
Labour hire way of reducing wages and no job security doing the same job and getting paid less .
A high profile case I recall was of a member of Kevin Rudd's family who owned a labour work force business, the family was reputed (allegedly) to be worth $180 million, whether as a cash asset or business holding I don't know, this has been going on for a long long time. I remember Romanian crews employed as subcontractors to harvest grapes locally, for a reduced rate of pay, the locals frozen out of employment they'd relied on for extra income for years, particularly the women who had a chance of earning money in this community. I'm sure business owners call this behaviour "freedom of enterprise".
Don't like the shifty guy with the striped tie.
I was accidently sent an invoice from a labour hire Co. The invoice was exactly 2x what i got paid. I showed the invoice to the workplace manager. I said i think it's time to consider full time employment.
I worked for a Printing/Bindind firm Gillingham Printers. The joint went into reverse before amalgamation with another, Van Gastel. Shit went belly up not due to the absorbed company. Our Superannuation was stolen to pay wages. Craig Howard Swanson Thornquest, mr Burgundy & Beef has to answer. We got fucked whilst he skipped any punishment or jail term.We ex employees are still dealing with the theft.
If we behaved like our government, the enemy of the people, we would be in prison.
"these series of questions have already been covered" BUT THEY STILL CAN`T ANSWER ANYTHING CAN THEY?
Thank you, Senator
All governments have participated in this, nor has it been limited to the mining industry
I have no faith or trust in the nation I was born in, in a nation I dedicated all my life to and service in the Navy for. I have no confidence in their trust or care. This is why I will never return back to Australia. I am a Former Royal Australian Navy Veteran and a amputee due to their negligence and experimentation via pharmaceuticals fkng disgrace.
Thank you for your service mate and you are right but it’s the same all over the world so don’t give up when there are people like the senator waking us all up
@GraemeMarshall-u7w I was awake over 20 years ago. I warned and tried even to communicate to Geneva council, UN and every Senator and Minister. I received no reply, no response. As a researcher and analyst I delved deep. Fabian society is only an arm of the beast that poisons deeply all we love and cherish. So now instead of anger I love as it's the only power I have. My son witnessed every step and I realized I had done enough and I had to leave with him to give him something of a chance for his future. We are beyond trying to wake people. They don't want to believe it for fear drives them to ignore. They would rather hold onto the illusion of comfort whilst prices drive them further into poverty and homelessness. We are beyond talking. We still believe our duopoly of a system will still work to save us, when the truth is that it is upto us all to raise sword and shield for the generations of our youth. No my dear brother. We are at a turning point and only few stand against the armed forces that are used against us all. God will be the adjudicator. This I know in my heart. Bless you but hope is the illusion they sell us, so that we sit back and wait to see the results.
We need real, direct answers from these "seat warmers". Having a senate hearing where, time is regulated and many questions are avoided by any and all means necessary is nothing more than a monumental joke to all those adversely affected by coniving, manipulative shysters masquerading as "in charge of and caring for the workers rights" sections of society.
Make it visual. Use a TV screen so everyone can see it and can't deny it or put off answering the questions.
How many fancy titled, overpaid public servants do we waste money on and can’t answer a simple questions. No wonder the country is totally stuffed.
Ummm errrrr
Global global global get the picture, this is Australia NOT EU
All of this government involvement in labor hire and operations has gone over the top. It’s costing business so much extra to run rheir business is putting costs to operate uo,therefore costs much higher to the consumer. We need to reduce the size of the government bureaucracy & involvement in business in general. We are being turned into a Chinese system. They need all these people to answer any questions,it don’t say much for Australia’s system of so called democracy. We aren’t living in a democracy. He’s read it, and you don’t give all rhe answers to questions he asks.
If you want to see what this ultimately leads to ... look at the hotly debated H1B laws in the US that allowed Boeing to sack almost all of their US workers and import and hire Indian workers for $9 an hour. If you've wondered why there are a large amount of Boeing incidents occurring you need look no further for an explanation. And it's not just Boeing doing this. It filters down to truck driving jobs and even manual labour. All are being replaced by cheap overseas workers in the US. Elon and Vivek are in trouble for supporting the H1B because it's not what MAGA voters asked for .. in fact they want the opposite. Keep all jobs in the US for US citizens only.
They told me when I rang them over being an under paid miner. “You’re getting more than the award rate”. No help at all, except I did get told, off the record, to get an industrial lawyer. Thanks for nothing.
If any of us did any of these things we would be slung in jail.
I love how they squirm after the senator asks a question,THEY SHOULD BE PROSECUTED FOR THEFT & FRAUD.
ATO outsourcing to ProbX is a perfect example. Staff paid less than the equivalent Public servant. In fact considerably less to the point that a retail worker is paid at a higher rate. They are expected to be at work early to set up systems and read email and respond prior to the official start time. This is wage theft.
Don't trust the Liberal and National parties either 😢😮
EBA's ruined it long time ago
We all know labour hire arrangements breach section 550 of the Fair Work act.
Their designed to circumvent some part of the act. Any prosecution would bankrupt the relevant LH entity.
Casual employees these days are based on the minimum wage standard regardless of the eba agreement. Usually the full-time employee go with this as they are fooled by the union and don't want a Casual to be paid more than the full-time employee. The Casual rate os supposed to be 25% above the eba agreed wage. But the workplace don't want that so every single employment agency dropps down to the award. Which is actually illegal. But if you fight it then you get black band from the agencies in that industry and many other industries. As that also interferes with the agent employed by agency remuneration or bonuses. I know many agents that have brought there house based on there bonuses. It is a destroyer of the employee future. These government officials need to be fired and this system needs to be shut down.
Point is we “shouldn’t” have enterprise bargaining agreements! We had a totally workable system of wages and taxation this country decades ago, they’ve known these scams were going on, they did nothing to mitigate the damage to every Australian tax payer, we all pay tax one way or another, and they still steal more from people who have already bloodywell paid, three tumes over! They know it, and allow it to continue!
This is how Labor designed it in agreement with the unions. Don't blame employers as most EBA's are for full time employees ONLY (again agreed to by Labor and unions). Casuals are NOT covered by EBA's at all. They are Award rate employees plus whatever loading for casuals is applicable (usually 25% but not mandatory). That is how Employers cut wages by reducing full time workers and using Labour Hire casuals who they can legally pay less (thanks to changes agreed by Labor/unions).
What about all the companies going bankrupt owing millions in payments to contractor ,suppliers customers and tax debts.
My God these politicians hate answering questions! If they could pass a bill where it was illegal for them to be asked 1 more question they would pass it in a heartbeat.
Why do none of these people in office have any soul in their eyes, whats the hiring process for this committee?
Hirer: yeah your eyes have no soul in them, no empathy, you dont feel anything for the common man do you?
Hired*
There has been no resolution to the Fair Work Commission throwing an employee under the bus instead of conducting a non-biased genuine inquiry into the entire payroll.
These are systemic issues not individualistic..
Why can’t these questions that are being raised by the Senator be addressed to the relevant senior public servants prior to them being ‘put on the spot?
It seems a waste of everyone’s time that the questions raised cannot be addressed effectively and thoroughly in a more direct manner.
How about researching the wage theft from farmers by regulating we have a global income and regulated to buy from a very over regulated, taxed combines with index wages to inflation, all with a margin attached till it finds a farmer. This has created the situation where farm production costs rise over 10 times faster the farm gate incomes. Just divide urban wages by 10 to see how much we get paid. The worst discrimination in the history of Australia.
These officials need to get out of their bubble and see what is happening in the real world.
The road Transport long distance operations is an absolute mess
Thank you Senator Roberts for keeping the bastards honest !
I'll Take it on NOTICE.
Awesome for Malcolm 👍
The 25% represents loading for super. Holidays benifits. travel. sick leave ect. Casual employment only get paid for the hours that are worked. No other benefits. That's why the hourly rate is more than a permanent employee no work no pay. No holiday pay. No leave or loading. No super. No sick days...Ect
…my role is to provide support to…”translation” the guy getting top dollar to do his job is not capable so…I’m supporting him, Without him I would be out of a job!
I appreciate the exposure to these crimes, but I want to see recompense to the tax payer and justice served and swiftly for incompetence.
It doesn't happen in any case or judgement.
Road transport long-distance operations is only 15%…. Another rort that the TWU has failed to axe..
There are employers in Australia who seem to believe they have a higher authority than the Fair Work Commission.
Sadly most employees lack the motivation to solve this problem.
Fair work tooth less tigers and they don’t give a stuff about worker’s rights
It’s always telling when someone can’t engage directly or transparently.
how much do these bureaucrats get paid and if they would get a job in the private sector? Just curious
How long ago was this inquiry? They talk of January and April this year. So not 2025. And if that is the case what was the final outcome?
Thank you Senator labour hires are under paying workers. Companies need to get back to recruiting workers instead of going through labour hire they take workers wages 😢
Biggest scam in wages in my time, they take a skim from every worker, they should be illegal
Labour hire should be banned like it is in many other countries, either employ staff directly or don’t do business
"Not a public servant....!" Sounds like a nice way to hide stuff
What about the hospitality industry, in melbourne cash payments are rife!!
Yeah I just worked over the holidays and I gotta say... I feel something is definitely missing. 😢
I worked for CEA Technologies as a casual, and I was not getting paid the same as FT +25% I was getting 25% less than everyone.
I watch all these investigations and the people that get paid BIG money can't answer ANY question
how can person in charge not have the info there i am sure she had a weeks notice and it is her job to know
The question is not about the mechanism of process. Your role as public servants is to give proper informative answers it is not to buck pass. Of course the victims of wage theft can object. Yes they will repeal your enterprise agreement, with a thank for your services here is the front door. You know you have the answers but you won’t say it in public as it just might open a Pandora’s box. These unions/public servants are conveniently in separate silos. Nobody knows or does anything. Sack the bloody lot. Transparency is non existent currently. As a tax payer I did not get anything informative out of this senate estimate committee meeting except the same old same old BS. Why do you still have a job? There’s plenty out here that could do your job as we don’t have any financial interests/gains, we are not part of the boys club. Australia needs an Audit from top to bottom by we the people.
This is exactly why I don't work for labour hire
Don’t worry guys…When the Labour Party want to tell Australians that there’s more people in work all they’ll do is re-define how the records show up in the books by lowering the hours of work each week!
It’s already down to 1 hour of work per week not sure how much lower they can go
This is why I quit steelfixing and would never go back
Should look into why kindy is supposed to be free, yet i'm still paying full price.
No wonder our country is F-,ked, these politicians need axing and/or retraining.
Mr Roberts it is of my understanding that anyone not on a individually bargained enterprise contract(which by law must be better than the NES). Then we are all to adhere to the National enterprise scheme. NES
No more pensions and ceo wages at the same time. Please look into this asap. Alistasia palaszczuk
These people are so stiff they are virutually a tasteless form of art.
One day we might follow our 1901 Constitution...