Its because literally 10% of the roster nullifies the other 90% and since people play to win/ will naturally pick those strong characters since they like them, it forces people to stick to certain characters so they dont get cheaped out. Its the fault of the developers.
Bro, the fact that there is no sign of archetypes in-game is crazy. Like why not show which character belongs to what archetype and then maybe explain what their up/downsides are?
Forgot sword type characters and how alot of them have unblockable ki blasts. Good video though I didn't know about the god archetype or ui goku being secret
Types are: Normal, Power, Speed, Ki-Blast, Almighty, Ki Drain Android (Normal), Ki Drain Android (Power), Infinite Ki Android (Normal), Infinite Ki Android (Power), Infinite Ki Android (Ki-Blast), Super Saiyan, Fusion, God, Secret, Rival, Villain, Legendary Super Saiyan, Giant, Skill-User, Skill-User (Yajirobe). Anything else doesn't affect your stats and is just for show. What your attacks looks like and what ki blasts you have is unrelated to the archetype. The archetype just determined how the game scales your base stats.
@@snakeoo7ca The translations are not exactly accurate to the source code because some of the classes were in very broken english or japanese but these are all classes straight from the code. I helped mining them.
Villians have more damage but also all have unique specific unshared movesets. With modified combo damage scaling being a little lower. But having higher base stats overall betting waymore.
@swankyjee Yup. Long post ahead if ur interested in the info I'll explain it All "villian" class characters are SSJ + stats for whatever DP tier they're in. As an example. Dabura. Atk: (graph) Is a 6/10. Def: 6/10 Ki blast (small 1s): ki blast 6/10 Health: 6/10 Super Ki blasts 8/10 All 6 dp ssj's have modifiers of 6/10 for most stats. Maybe 1 will be 5/10. Or slightly higher hp or combo. The benefit though is Dabura dosent have any transformation downside. the HIGHEST super blast modifier for 6dp characters. And his moveset gives access to a sword halfway through it. Giving higher chip damage when enemies are blocking. (All sword users have this) The villiabs are Z frieza, meta cooler, zamasu (fused), perfect cell. Super buu, unfused zamasu. All have unique special benefits that other categories don't. And often have MULTIPLE benefits like a hybrid. Without sacrificing as usual. As an example, zamasu (unfused, and fused) both have unique sword ki blasts, a (Ki) class, and normal class, ontop of villian. Meaning he's got the normal class modifier (like early goku) Aka, decent speed, ok atk/defencd) normal class = decent all around. No negative. Normal ki consumption. But then ontop of this, he has a ki class. Which means Ki blasts cost 20% less. And you can shoot alot. Also makes the ki blast spam do more damage, and the "ki" class has the highest combo damage in the game. And easiest time doing it since thier spammable ki blast costs less, and counts towards it. Then ontop of of this. He has a SPEED class as well. Giving him access to hyper movement, and super movement speed categories. So essentially he's categories as. Villian. Ki blast. Normal (for all stats) then boosted by other classes. Speed. Other classes will have 1. So as an example. Turles has just 1. It's "ki". But because he dosent have "normal" as well as a subclass for stats/movement. It means his atk and def will be very low. But ki stats high. Zamasu is crazy because he has normal as a base. So free stats. Plus the benefit of all the other classes he has. In general. Villians are really OP class wise. But typically are limited in someway Like Corrupted zamasu swaps out his speed sub class for a "power" subclass. But keeps his "normal" and "ki" subclass. Making him the fastest power class in the game. But he sacrifices that reduction in dashing, drsgon dashing, vanishing, ect for the power class benefits which are (slower attacks) More damage. Dashing/rushing costs more.
Its sad how much thought they put into having different archetypes for characters and it all gets overshadowed by easy exploits such as skills and certain game mechanics. I mean, im sure Z-Broly is a power character but they way cheesers use him, you'd believe he was ki blast character...
Clearly they didnt put *enough* thought into it because they designed the game in a way that those things get overshadowed and then didnt bother to add indicators for types.
@@whitehairedbadass3475Why blame the developers, blame yourself. Its the fault of the community how they play the game. Or should the developers give every Character the exact same stats?
I'm willing to bet UI Goku is "Secret" because the original name for Ultra Instinct, Migatte no Gokui, translates to "Selfish Secret." So "Secret" class basically just means "Ultra Instinct" class.
I kinda wish they put Whis in that category. Angels aren't the same as gods and they instinctively (heh) have ultra instinct. Also, not that we're gonna get it but if a miracle happened and we could get late Super manga arcs (Moro/Granolah). Having UI Goku and Whis be Secret and Ultra Ego Vegeta and Beerus be gods would be kinda metal. Would make less sense for Vegeta but eh.
Its crazy how almost none of these archetypes matter in the actual game because no matter what im gonna run into the same 10 characters,and get cheesed and spammed every time! Thank you bandai!
@@Dr.Loudpack honestly if they don't want this game to be like bt3. Doubling down on these archetypes will really make the game shine but first the base mechanics need fixing.
You forgot to mention how only certain characters can do that step dodge mechanic and how some characters can do that step vanish when they’re in sparking ANDDDD how some characters has an additional hit or hit counter in their normal combos
Videl is a weird case because she has the downsides of a speed character but non of the benefits. They should just make her a speed archetype. Also she charges slower than normal.
Android 13 is another insanely good Power type Android. More stats than android 16. More hp, atk, defence is 1267. So he's tanky. He has 7 DP cost so he staggers super armor. Ect
For Dyspo to be as fast as he was and way stronger and faster than the likes of Burter I was expecting his rush attack string to go crazy….you can’t really tell he is a speed type if you didn’t watch the show
Looks like there’s a Legendary Super Saiyan Archetype too!(Exclusive to the Brolys and Kale). But ssj1-4, ssjg, and ssjb all register as just Super Saiyan Archetype. Except for Bulky Trunks who is a Power Archetype, unlike Super Vegeta who’s just Super Saiyan.
Androids are the best! Especially Android 18 😁. I’d love to play as her, but my laptop is too outdated. I’ve been reading about cloud gaming services, and this game is available on Boosteroid. I’d love to hear your opinion about it, or even better, see a full review!
Well arent hyper armor characters an extension of power types? And sword wielders have their own thing where they deal most of the combo damage in the first two hits and have unblockable charged ki blasts. All in all you had a very succinct video many archetypes for which i didnt know about.
@@TheArmyofHades hyper armor characters have their own thing and its called "Legendary Super Saiyan" I just didn't put it in here. If anyone else has hyper armor its usually from a skill.
Do u think that for ranked it would be good idea to have a system where the 2 players could ban a class of characters before a match so they won’t have to deal with op or annoying characters like androids or fusions
When you click a character, on the background shows the types given by the developers, on the top left. I'll update the filters page, soon to show the archetype there as well.
How do you find in game what character is what type so stupid the devs made all these power type trailers but can’t even find where it says it in game and we need descriptions of what every archetype is
When you click a character, on the background shows the types given by the developers, on the top left at least on the website, there's no way in game to currently access it. I'll update the filters page, soon to show the archetype there as well.
Happy Thanksgiving Everyone!
You forgot some archetype
1. Ragequiter
2. Ki blast spam into Unblockable Ult
3. Insta sparking
4. Ssj4 Gogeta
5. UI goku
6. Vegito
This Needs to be pinned comment
Super Vegito to be exact
You forgot the low dp characters spammers
I love using insta spark 😂
😂😂 U just Suck. That's too much to cry about. Why u don't like Gogeta?
There’s so many different kinds of characters in this game and people stick to about only 10 of them it’s wild
Foreal
Fr I’m like the only beerus player I’ve met online
Because only 10 of them are usable. Blame the developers.
Its because literally 10% of the roster nullifies the other 90% and since people play to win/ will naturally pick those strong characters since they like them, it forces people to stick to certain characters so they dont get cheaped out. Its the fault of the developers.
@@Churd_ you no he top 10 right
Bro, the fact that there is no sign of archetypes in-game is crazy. Like why not show which character belongs to what archetype and then maybe explain what their up/downsides are?
Forgot sword type characters and how alot of them have unblockable ki blasts. Good video though I didn't know about the god archetype or ui goku being secret
Types are: Normal, Power, Speed, Ki-Blast, Almighty, Ki Drain Android (Normal), Ki Drain Android (Power), Infinite Ki Android (Normal), Infinite Ki Android (Power), Infinite Ki Android (Ki-Blast), Super Saiyan, Fusion, God, Secret, Rival, Villain, Legendary Super Saiyan, Giant, Skill-User, Skill-User (Yajirobe). Anything else doesn't affect your stats and is just for show. What your attacks looks like and what ki blasts you have is unrelated to the archetype. The archetype just determined how the game scales your base stats.
@@Geta92u made some of those up
@@snakeoo7ca The translations are not exactly accurate to the source code because some of the classes were in very broken english or japanese but these are all classes straight from the code. I helped mining them.
Villians have more damage but also all have unique specific unshared movesets. With modified combo damage scaling being a little lower. But having higher base stats overall betting waymore.
Wait what? This is news to me
@swankyjee Yup. Long post ahead if ur interested in the info I'll explain it
All "villian" class characters are SSJ + stats for whatever DP tier they're in. As an example. Dabura.
Atk: (graph) Is a 6/10.
Def: 6/10
Ki blast (small 1s): ki blast 6/10
Health: 6/10
Super Ki blasts 8/10
All 6 dp ssj's have modifiers of
6/10 for most stats. Maybe 1 will be 5/10. Or slightly higher hp or combo.
The benefit though is Dabura dosent have any transformation downside. the HIGHEST super blast modifier for 6dp characters. And his moveset gives access to a sword halfway through it. Giving higher chip damage when enemies are blocking. (All sword users have this)
The villiabs are Z frieza, meta cooler, zamasu (fused), perfect cell. Super buu, unfused zamasu. All have unique special benefits that other categories don't. And often have MULTIPLE benefits like a hybrid. Without sacrificing as usual.
As an example, zamasu (unfused, and fused) both have unique sword ki blasts, a (Ki) class, and normal class, ontop of villian. Meaning he's got the normal class modifier (like early goku) Aka, decent speed, ok atk/defencd) normal class = decent all around. No negative. Normal ki consumption.
But then ontop of this, he has a ki class. Which means Ki blasts cost 20% less. And you can shoot alot. Also makes the ki blast spam do more damage, and the "ki" class has the highest combo damage in the game. And easiest time doing it since thier spammable ki blast costs less, and counts towards it.
Then ontop of of this. He has a SPEED class as well. Giving him access to hyper movement, and super movement speed categories.
So essentially he's categories as.
Villian.
Ki blast.
Normal (for all stats) then boosted by other classes.
Speed.
Other classes will have 1. So as an example.
Turles has just 1. It's "ki". But because he dosent have "normal" as well as a subclass for stats/movement. It means his atk and def will be very low. But ki stats high.
Zamasu is crazy because he has normal as a base. So free stats. Plus the benefit of all the other classes he has.
In general. Villians are really OP class wise. But typically are limited in someway
Like Corrupted zamasu swaps out his speed sub class for a "power" subclass. But keeps his "normal" and "ki" subclass. Making him the fastest power class in the game. But he sacrifices that reduction in dashing, drsgon dashing, vanishing, ect for the power class benefits which are (slower attacks)
More damage.
Dashing/rushing costs more.
@Telarius dang so not buuhan?
@swankyjee Not buuhan
@swankyjee Not buuhan. He's a fusion tho so lots of stats
Awesome content, and thanks for the website shout, as a solo dev, I've been (and still) working really hard on it, I'm glad others find it useful.
4:08 I don't see this becoming a problem in an official tournament grand finals, no way lmao
Its sad how much thought they put into having different archetypes for characters and it all gets overshadowed by easy exploits such as skills and certain game mechanics. I mean, im sure Z-Broly is a power character but they way cheesers use him, you'd believe he was ki blast character...
He’s both. Check his stats, his ki is crazy.
Clearly they didnt put *enough* thought into it because they designed the game in a way that those things get overshadowed and then didnt bother to add indicators for types.
He is like in FighterZ, covering 2 types
@@whitehairedbadass3475Why blame the developers, blame yourself. Its the fault of the community how they play the game. Or should the developers give every Character the exact same stats?
I'm willing to bet UI Goku is "Secret" because the original name for Ultra Instinct, Migatte no Gokui, translates to "Selfish Secret."
So "Secret" class basically just means "Ultra Instinct" class.
I kinda wish they put Whis in that category. Angels aren't the same as gods and they instinctively (heh) have ultra instinct. Also, not that we're gonna get it but if a miracle happened and we could get late Super manga arcs (Moro/Granolah). Having UI Goku and Whis be Secret and Ultra Ego Vegeta and Beerus be gods would be kinda metal. Would make less sense for Vegeta but eh.
Its crazy how almost none of these archetypes matter in the actual game because no matter what im gonna run into the same 10 characters,and get cheesed and spammed every time! Thank you bandai!
@@Dr.Loudpack honestly if they don't want this game to be like bt3. Doubling down on these archetypes will really make the game shine but first the base mechanics need fixing.
You forgot to mention how only certain characters can do that step dodge mechanic and how some characters can do that step vanish when they’re in sparking
ANDDDD how some characters has an additional hit or hit counter in their normal combos
Would be really useful having somethig that informs you about it.
The human characters feel like they charge Ki super fast. Hercule, Roshi, Videl, Yajirobe, all charge Ki incredibly fast too
Videl is a weird case because she has the downsides of a speed character but non of the benefits. They should just make her a speed archetype. Also she charges slower than normal.
1:59 now how tf did he jump over and land behind him like that so quickly?
It's a jump tech idk how to do it but there's another tech to dash back and then dash behind them
It's a jump tech idk how to do it but there's another tech to dash back and then dash behind them
Jump right over them and x
The more I learn about this game everytime I play it. Goat Aeronage.
Android 18 can zone sure but having basically infinite ki means u can rush down your opponents and win every vanish war
very true
I had no idea about any of this! Very Informative 📝🤝🏽
I Subscribed because of the link you posted. I appreciate the simple things that go far
Villains get more damage from Mafuba too
Android 13 is another insanely good Power type Android. More stats than android 16. More hp, atk, defence is 1267. So he's tanky. He has 7 DP cost so he staggers super armor. Ect
I didn’t even know this was a thing I felt like everyone felt the same
once you face thundershock surprise roshi you'll notice that mf charges WAY faster than the fusions and other high do chars 😢
amazing video
For Dyspo to be as fast as he was and way stronger and faster than the likes of Burter I was expecting his rush attack string to go crazy….you can’t really tell he is a speed type if you didn’t watch the show
His speed power up skills genuinely changes how he moves
@ Oh yea I gotta try him out and see what the skill do but I still expected for him to throw punches even faster than Burter tho
there is no link in the description for the site.
It should be there now
Thanks man, appreciated
The designers of this game really thought they were doing something
Bro's using MegaMan Zero songs? He's a man of culture frfr
Underated chanel
W vid
Looks like there’s a Legendary Super Saiyan Archetype too!(Exclusive to the Brolys and Kale). But ssj1-4, ssjg, and ssjb all register as just Super Saiyan Archetype. Except for Bulky Trunks who is a Power Archetype, unlike Super Vegeta who’s just Super Saiyan.
Androids are the best! Especially Android 18 😁. I’d love to play as her, but my laptop is too outdated. I’ve been reading about cloud gaming services, and this game is available on Boosteroid. I’d love to hear your opinion about it, or even better, see a full review!
Well arent hyper armor characters an extension of power types? And sword wielders have their own thing where they deal most of the combo damage in the first two hits and have unblockable charged ki blasts. All in all you had a very succinct video many archetypes for which i didnt know about.
@@TheArmyofHades hyper armor characters have their own thing and its called "Legendary Super Saiyan" I just didn't put it in here. If anyone else has hyper armor its usually from a skill.
What determines if you can do the extra dodge? Where you sidestep and press O (Playstation)/ B (Xbox)
Im surprised, I thought there would be a fist, sword, student archetype lol
How you get that turles outfit at 2:41
Do u think that for ranked it would be good idea to have a system where the 2 players could ban a class of characters before a match so they won’t have to deal with op or annoying characters like androids or fusions
What was the 16 command grab? I didn’t see the move menu pop up when you hit that.
its just his normal throw. I call it command grab because you can't tech it.
@ ahh gotcha. Had no idea that was a thing - is it literally only 16 who has that?
@@sbfantom usually big body characters have it and mastered UI goku has it
You know how exactly to see the archetypes on that website? It just shows the characters for me not the types
When you click a character, on the background shows the types given by the developers, on the top left. I'll update the filters page, soon to show the archetype there as well.
How do you find in game what character is what type so stupid the devs made all these power type trailers but can’t even find where it says it in game and we need descriptions of what every archetype is
When you click a character, on the background shows the types given by the developers, on the top left at least on the website, there's no way in game to currently access it. I'll update the filters page, soon to show the archetype there as well.
You don't. The game had to be data mined for the information to slowly spread online.
How u get that outfit for turles
its a mod
Intro song ?
Factssss i was just looking in comments
milye x kendrick lamar - drumline and cereal (ft. gunplay)
Not gon lie combos in this game doesn’t look better character to character compared to raging blast 2
This kinda late tho 😅
You terrible at commentary