Wow the temperature test was very impressive! Everything else is a bit surprising to me, but nothing crazy. I personally annealed some Inland PLA+ in a similar manner and it is temperature resistant enough to function as an oil cap in a hot engine bay.
I think the holes in the side of the spools might also be helpful in filament drying although they'd also help with filament "wetting" from humidity. Maybe just putting removable, thin cardboard (poster board) circle cutouts on both sides would prevent wetting and could be removed for drying?
Thanks for testing this one, I'll keep it in mind for materials that can be printed easily, can handle very high temperatures and is very tough as well. The deformation during annealing looks significantly better than 3D870 PLA, which didn't match my expectations.
@@MyTechFun Also colorfabb has PLA HP that claims 135C HDT (method B). It would be great if you could test that one as well. And another interesting material is GreenTec from extrudr. One of the first to claim prints like PLA but has high heat resistance.
According to their SDS, this material is less than 80% PLA. I'd like to know what their proprietary additive is. For engineering applications, it can be important information (e.g. for chemical compatibility).
I appreciate that you use a consistent testing methods and share the actual results with us instead of just summarizing. I am curious how you calibrate the new hammer test machine from eBay.
Something what I am working exactly now (washer test). But I need more time, since many filaments will be included (all Polylite, Bambu filaments, 4 TPU etc.)
at would be great! I am thinking of using collars printed from TPU as a buffer where it will experience hundreds of kilos compression force… will TPU just squeeze out or will it work beautifully 🙂
According to many others, they cannot be annealed (PETG, ABS). So, I didn't even try (but I wanted to). Except Nylon, it can benefit from annealing, it will reduce the creeping of PA.
Another great test, thanks! Interesting material, bit weak in tensile but good in impact and creep. Would you maybe compare it to the volcano pla that promises similar properties? Btw some of their marketing claims are dubious (improved both bending and stiffness?)
Volcano PLA? Anybody tested it? I would test it only of it don't deform. Earlier I annealed a similar material, but it deforms a lot. CF-PLA would be good for this, but current trend on YT is that "CF will kill you".. And about this PLA, I was thinking, why they suggest to put it in preheated oven(?) More logical would be slow heating and cooling.
@@MyTechFun yes, cnc kitchen included it is his annealing vide0 and it didn't deform. It can also be printed really fast as a bonus. Idk, maybe to control the annealing process better
A, its Formfutura Volcano PLA. I already contacted them, but they are not interested in this "cooperation". So I will just order few rolls myself.. I am curious about it. Thx.
Great tests as usual. I wonder if you would get less warping during annealing if the flat sections weren't laying on a silicone sheet. The sheet would have caused uneven heating.
Recently I had some discussion about this. But probably slower heating would be better, not placing objects into preheated oven. But this was the instruction on their website.
I have a suggestion/something to check for you. While playing around with PLA annealing, I discovered that you can do it by throwing the prints into boiling water. So could you check how this method of annealing affects the properties of the material in relation to heating in the oven? The temperature of the process is actually lower, but the process itself is much faster.
@@TNX255 I don't know if it's such a big problem, moisture bothers us if it's in the filament, but in the final product it's only a matter of time. That's why it would be nice if it was verified.
It has some advantages, but yes, it is not perfect. Imagine a person, who don't have enclosed printer or just don't want ABS, ASA fumes, but he wants to print a gopro holder for his car. PLA, PETG would deform from summer heat. This may be a solution.
I think it's the testing method, you are focusing too much on the testing terminology rather than letting us know what practical usages that it can do based on those test. From i can see and understand from your video is just oh this material can do this and that. This is the specs of the material and this is what it does. Tbh , its getting abit boring for me. Just my honest opinion, maybe the testing methodology can change towards something else less explored.
Hm, I get the point. This methodology is good for mechanical parts, it is used in mechanical engineering very often. The users has to recognise what stress types he have in his applications. But, yes, I could include more practical examples, where some filament would be good for and where not. Thx for suggestion.
Wow the temperature test was very impressive! Everything else is a bit surprising to me, but nothing crazy. I personally annealed some Inland PLA+ in a similar manner and it is temperature resistant enough to function as an oil cap in a hot engine bay.
Temperature results were insane (from a positive point of view). Great video Igor.
Love your videos Igor, I think it’s funny how you use your balcony and home as the lab, your neighbours must be scratching theirs heads. lol 👍🇦🇺
Earlier I used a chain hoist, that was noisy to them (mostly on weekends). But, they don't know what am I doing :-)
@@MyTechFun all in the name of science
I think the holes in the side of the spools might also be helpful in filament drying although they'd also help with filament "wetting" from humidity. Maybe just putting removable, thin cardboard (poster board) circle cutouts on both sides would prevent wetting and could be removed for drying?
Yes, it may be helpful for drying. But if you are able to print from dryer too, then it is not important (drying during unrolling)
Wow, that impact resistence makes it an interesting PLA, even without annealing.
Thanks for testing this one, I'll keep it in mind for materials that can be printed easily, can handle very high temperatures and is very tough as well.
The deformation during annealing looks significantly better than 3D870 PLA, which didn't match my expectations.
The first company to come up with a high heat resistant PLA out of the box will win.
There is one already, but not available worldwide. ua-cam.com/video/uF2_ceBQ40Y/v-deo.htmlsi=RrHgJ0e2HzrZrcEG
@@MyTechFun Also colorfabb has PLA HP that claims 135C HDT (method B). It would be great if you could test that one as well. And another interesting material is GreenTec from extrudr. One of the first to claim prints like PLA but has high heat resistance.
According to their SDS, this material is less than 80% PLA. I'd like to know what their proprietary additive is. For engineering applications, it can be important information (e.g. for chemical compatibility).
Makes sense that it is heavily doped, has plenty of results far from regular pla.
Very interesting material to be honest. It is quite different from what can usually expected from PLA. Thanks for your thorough reviews !
I appreciate that you use a consistent testing methods and share the actual results with us instead of just summarizing. I am curious how you calibrate the new hammer test machine from eBay.
I'm excited for the abs
Hi Igor, I wonder if you could test compression strength, i.e. opposite of tensile strength, for materials like ABS, ASA, PC, TPU etc.
Something what I am working exactly now (washer test). But I need more time, since many filaments will be included (all Polylite, Bambu filaments, 4 TPU etc.)
at would be great! I am thinking of using collars printed from TPU as a buffer where it will experience hundreds of kilos compression force… will TPU just squeeze out or will it work beautifully 🙂
Interesting results, really close to ingeo 3d870 pellets but I don't understand why they ask to preheat the hoven, it is really strange
I just realized we always talk about annealing PLA. How about other non exotic materials? Like PETG or ABS?
According to many others, they cannot be annealed (PETG, ABS). So, I didn't even try (but I wanted to). Except Nylon, it can benefit from annealing, it will reduce the creeping of PA.
@@dekurvajo annealing only matters for crystalline materials.
@@MyTechFun yes i was hasty with my comment. Right after i just made my research, and got the same answer you just confirmed. Thank you!
Another great test, thanks! Interesting material, bit weak in tensile but good in impact and creep. Would you maybe compare it to the volcano pla that promises similar properties?
Btw some of their marketing claims are dubious (improved both bending and stiffness?)
Volcano PLA? Anybody tested it? I would test it only of it don't deform. Earlier I annealed a similar material, but it deforms a lot. CF-PLA would be good for this, but current trend on YT is that "CF will kill you".. And about this PLA, I was thinking, why they suggest to put it in preheated oven(?) More logical would be slow heating and cooling.
@@MyTechFun yes, cnc kitchen included it is his annealing vide0 and it didn't deform. It can also be printed really fast as a bonus.
Idk, maybe to control the annealing process better
A, its Formfutura Volcano PLA. I already contacted them, but they are not interested in this "cooperation". So I will just order few rolls myself.. I am curious about it. Thx.
@@MyTechFun awesome, you are such a legend 😁
@@riba2233 Thx 🙂By the way, where are you from?
Great tests as usual. I wonder if you would get less warping during annealing if the flat sections weren't laying on a silicone sheet. The sheet would have caused uneven heating.
Recently I had some discussion about this. But probably slower heating would be better, not placing objects into preheated oven. But this was the instruction on their website.
I have a suggestion/something to check for you.
While playing around with PLA annealing, I discovered that you can do it by throwing the prints into boiling water.
So could you check how this method of annealing affects the properties of the material in relation to heating in the oven?
The temperature of the process is actually lower, but the process itself is much faster.
Boiling would most certainly impregnate the plastic with lots of moisture, and isn't that what we don't want in our parts?
@@TNX255 I don't know if it's such a big problem, moisture bothers us if it's in the filament, but in the final product it's only a matter of time.
That's why it would be nice if it was verified.
I just tried the spreadsheet link and there's a 404 error
Fixed, you can download it now. Thx for informing me. www.mytechfun.com/video/389
I'm curious. Which is your favorite printer?
I think this video will answer your question: ua-cam.com/video/D6mOrmfkTxg/v-deo.html
How is the temperature results compared to normal PLA?
(Or have i missed it in the video?9
the temperature results are in the video. definitely worth watching the full video
Thanks for testing. Marketing gimmick as expected
It has some advantages, but yes, it is not perfect. Imagine a person, who don't have enclosed printer or just don't want ABS, ASA fumes, but he wants to print a gopro holder for his car. PLA, PETG would deform from summer heat. This may be a solution.
I think it's the testing method, you are focusing too much on the testing terminology rather than letting us know what practical usages that it can do based on those test. From i can see and understand from your video is just oh this material can do this and that. This is the specs of the material and this is what it does. Tbh , its getting abit boring for me. Just my honest opinion, maybe the testing methodology can change towards something else less explored.
Hm, I get the point. This methodology is good for mechanical parts, it is used in mechanical engineering very often. The users has to recognise what stress types he have in his applications. But, yes, I could include more practical examples, where some filament would be good for and where not. Thx for suggestion.