5 Locomotives That Are Presently Underwater | History in the Dark
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- Sometimes locomotives wind up underwater. It's a thing that happens. Also, sometimes, they get left there. That happens too.
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Percy: "Driver, why are you watching this video? I don't like to think of this happening to other engines."
Driver: "What's the matter? It's not like you'll ever be underwater."
Percy: glares angrily at driver as he remembers the events of "Percy Takes the Plunge."
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This would be an incredible story to cover: There are two 1830s era trains up in the arctic regions of Canada. How did they get there? They were used to power the HMS Terror and HMS Erebus in the failed Franklin expedition! No one's seen them, but as far as I know, they still might be down there in the wrecks of the hulls!
Not exactly, there are two boilers from 1830’s locomotives, not locomotives themselves
@@happiestcamel5064 I mean, it still technically counts, right? I would love for something as ridiculous as underwater trains in the Arctic to be covered by Darkness The Curse here.
@@Nausicaafan-go6lq Not really - wouldn't they be marine boilers, to supply the ships' engines? If you want to retrieve a boiler, there's an old, old ship's boiler sticking out of the sands near the lighthouse at Whitesands Point, on the Gower Peninsula in South Wales. I did try to dig it out once, with my grandson's spade, but it goes far too deep down.........
When HITD talks about "underwater train finders"... I thought he was kidding. 😐
British Columbia aparently IS the British Rail of underwater calamities
The first time I heard of an underwater locomotive (as far as I can remember) was the 2007 Clive Cussler novel "The Chase." The original cover of the book shows the prominent locomotive in the story plummeting toward the bottom of a lake. That cover really fascinated me as a kid, and the whole story itself sounds quite interesting. I would love to see somebody do a video about the events in the story that show the locomotive.
Great book! Read it in high-school, and have been interested in lost trains! 😊
Video of Trains found underwater or buried in the mud. Understandable that it was made.... BUT
And to hear @Historyinthedark trying to not say "who would pay for the retrieval and restoration of said locomotives back to running condition" without saying its impossible in this video had me laughing....
While in NZ, several locomotives are under restoration or restored to running condition after being underwater or buried in mud....
Lakes split up all the time. Relationships are hard
The B&O ran through the to I live in, there's a decent sized trestle style bridge over the river. Before that one was a wooden one that took two trains with it. Both locomotives were recovered but the force of the impact ripped the class and headlamps off along with the bells. All were found except the bell off the 0-8-0 usra switcher kind of want to go find it.
Same here, B&O mainline went to Jersey City at the Communipaw Terminal from Philadelphia
Boiler pressure changes? Like when a hot boiler hits cold water? That usually doesn't end well for the boiler.
Help me, I am under the water
I would imagine the boilers no longer hold pressure anymore, and whatever weak spots would give way easily after sitting in water for decades. But I have also never pulled a boiler out of 1500 feet of water, maybe I'm bass ackwards.
You're not necessarily wrong. Water (especially salt) is no friend to iron.
iv too been know to go bass ackwards on occasions
The one with the sister locomotives still freak me out-It's like how does that even happen?!What are the odds?!
I live one hour and 10 minutes away from Kerr Lake WARL channels and once I tried to do a research about the train station because it got an overhaul recently nothing but nice video anyway it’s pretty cool that North Carolina got featured!
Underwater you say? Get, me, my, scuba tank! I will have that steam engine!!! 🤣🤣
good video if ur considering doing a part 2 there was a chinese mikado the 1698M but lost at sea in the bay of bengal that was going to be delivered to the susquehanna has #141 but the norwegian freighter was taken water heavily as it traversed the indian ocean and then sank the next day. Heard that it got delayed due to the gulf war conflict before the freighter could set off. Now that engine is just a good home for the fishes and what-not.
For the S&R photo's the Ten-wheeler is numbered 3, 5 or 8 based on the ghost shadow you can see on the front number plate. Raising a pressure vessel like a steam engine from deep under water would be no different than raising a ship that has sunk in deep water, you just need to accommodate for change in pressure, presumably there are enough openings to allow for said change to safely raise the engine.
Okay so this is what I have figured out For the rolls of popular american steam locomotives 611 is the queen 844 is the king pm 1225 and nkp 765 Are both ambassadors 4014 Is a guardian since its really strong and daylight is Some form of don't know the word but it's basically the one who gets the most attention because of its pretty colors so like the Showman of american steam so yea...
I just wish there were more photos of these engines under water
Great video!
Can you do „5 of the worst buses“
with the boiler pressure issue when bringing a pressure vessel up from depths its common practice to cut a big hole in the side of the boiler
Seton Lake is a maximum of 460m, not average. The one is Seton apparently only came to rest 27m down,
BCR later lost two diesels like that, one of which was raised by amateur divers with flotation equipment and later scrapped to pay for the effort.
I lived in Durham at the time of the WRAL report and remember the matter coming up locally as a long time urban legend that might be true after all.
all of this engine went into the water hot. So the very cold water to a vary hot boiler would have damage the boil to a point that it can not hold PIS.
The first engine, the cars, was made of wood, not 8 tons of metal. So the lump is not a car! 😮
4-4-0's were around since the mid-1800's if not somewhat earlier. Both the General and the Texas were 4-4-0's.
Oh, hellooo... oi, Darkness, WRAL 5 is about an hour's drive from me in Raleigh NC. Most of their stuff's pretty good, but they do occasionally post the odd bot-written article. You know when you've got one of those, if you see articles elsewhere -- like at half a dozen or so places, minimum -- and it's all got nearly the same title and identical article wording underneath. They don't mean to do you like that, it's just the nature of online content in this day and age. Almost all of what they have is good stuff, but like everyone else, once in a while they've got nothing but clickbait, and they gotta pay the light bill just like you and me, so onto the presses and out the door it goes. Don't hold it as indicative of their quality as a station -- WRAL is a local freaking institution, and they very much have earned that status.
There’s an engine ina swamp in central Michigan, the road bed kept sinking into the swamp and an engine derailed and tipped into the swamp. Decades later a pipeline company hit something when laying a pipe through the swamp on the right of way, and had to jog around it.
@@Wiencourager he said these two models were pretty commonly preserved but are there any converted ones preserved???
How much does the cow catcher and front Axel group weigh.
Darkness been a while since we had a underwater train video thanks 👍 252
What about the LMS 8Fs in the Red Sea?
British Columbia is clearly the bermuda triangle of trains... bermuda train-gle?
talk about thr train in the scouthavin lake in ny
I'm more interested in seeing people identify, excavate, and document the locomotives in place than in having them raised. As great as that would be, you pretty well covered why we can't raise them. If anything, I'd just like the mysteries to be solved and to get pictures of what they look like now.
I’ve heard about those
Shipwrecked trains are cool, but are there any trainwrecked ships?
Bnsf collided with a barge a few years ago, and I remember a story of some kind of screw-up where a ship was sank by a locomotive hitting it.
Sad story for all of those treight frains
Those Mars lights are really freaky looking at night in the country.
That was quick. No intro sequence?
I love it
I read a story in a local Australian railway history magazine about a locomotive that was supposed to have fallen off a ferry while crossing the Clarence River at Grafton in northern New South Wales
The story goes that it was the prototype of a new locomotive type for the northern line that was under construction at the time
It said the loss wasn't publicized because it was during the 1930's depression and would've caused a public outcry because of the high cost of the locomotive
From what I remember of the story it happened during a storm and the surface of this wide river was very rough at the time and the locomotive wasn't properly secured and they weren't sure exactly where it was lost, and it has never been recovered
I live at Grafton but have never heard anything else about this lost locomotive
Hey do you know of anything cool in the spokane Washington/ north Idaho area I could go look at with my ROV? I have a UA-cam channel @thetinkanator and I’m always looking for new things to find
Can you talk about the sinking of subway cars in the ocean to create artificial reefs
Done off the coast of California by the Metropolitan Transit Authority of Los Angeles to get RID OF the former Pacific Electric Red cars. A terrible waste.
Time to learn to dive
Why are most underwater engines in Canada
We shall drain the water in the areas
Oh, is Neil one of them?
if i had a nickel for every CN engine that went into a lake from a landslide, i'd have 2 nickels. which isnt alot but its weird that it's happened twice.
Sometimes locomotives were replaced, and the new engine retained the old number. The legal fiction was that it was the same engine... /for tax purposes/. Thus, the lost American engine could have been "rebuilt" (from scratch) as the ten-wheeler.
Someone mentioned Clive Custler - one of his tales was based on a 'lost' DRGW engine, wrecked in a big flood which washed out a bridge. Clive was intrigued by how a locomotive could 'disappear' and spent a lot of effort in scanning the river for several miles downstream. Eventually he discovered that a DRGW wrecking crew had popped out one night, hauled the engine out and sent it back to the builders for repair, and returned with a different running number - and then claimed it a total loss in an insurance scam! Anyway, the story inspired his novel 'Night Passage.'
No intro?
Yeah most of us locals don’t say carh lake we use kur lake some use carh just to be right or different in their own way just to one up whoever they talk to. And no pictures cause that water is dirty as h
Mispronunciation is very common in today’s English language
PGE= Prince George eventually.
Babe wake up history of the dark has uploaded a new video on UA-cam again
WRAL is well known for using only half their collective posteriors in a lot of reports. DEI runs the place, so no where is excellence part of the job description. I'm rather surprised they even did a report on the engine. (Read about it in a local railfan article, but unfortunately that is long gone.....
If they're practicing diversity, equity, and inclusion in their hiring then their reporting should be better, not worse. (Words have meanings and they're not always what you're told they mean.)
@@alexhajnal107 DEI is defined by ignoring competence in favor of selected genders and races. WRAL happily dumped competent Weather folk in favor of another gender. The news division slants just about every report to fit the vision of the corporation. They don't seek out experts if they are white or male. Guess what about 2/3 of the historians are? Yep. White and male. Throw in a total lack of curiosity and you have their news and reporting team. Now, if you are looking for reports on what diner has the best hotdog, they seem to be ok with that.
Is this a compilation?
They are trains he hasn't talked about before
@@JarradBruessel32 Ah, thanks for letting me know ^_^
Yes it is, he’s discussed these all before in videos mostly 2 years old
PGE 53 wasn't the only locomotive to wind up in Seton Lake. A similar incident happened again in 1980. Only the brakeman was killed and the locomotives were recovered. There's no hope for either PGE 53 or 56. Way too far deep for any attempt at a recovery. Most likely were buried even further with time.
In the case of the CPR engine, the most plausible answer is both are right. Hear me out.
The locomotive itself, minus the pony truck and its tender were recovered and rebuilt, returning to steam. The tender and pony truck were too badly damaged and left behind. Those tenders, minus their wood load and water, would weigh in at roughly 8 tons, give or take.
About the photo at 23:39, they are the same locomotive. It was not uncommon for railroads, in the early days of steam, to take older 4-4-0 designs, and rebuild them into 4-6-0 types. This rebuild simply involved adding another drive axle forward of the main driving axles. The modification was cheap and easy for companies to do, and would allow them to get more power out of older locomotives until they could afford something better. Note that in the 4-6-0 picture, that first driver is blind. So no flange. That marks it as a rebuild locomotive.
From what i remember about my trips to Canada. It doesnt shock me if rocks were going to be the zombie apocalypse it would likley start in Canada. Amd the sheer numbers and size of partially burried rocks makes this a terrifying alternative timeline
I hope that the ai thumbnail is just a test and that if most people don't like it then normal ones will return
Without good images of any of the locomotives underwater, I felt it was the better option. Don't worry. It won't be a normal thing.
@@HistoryintheDark why isn't there an intro
I guess I just didn't think anyone would miss it? You're not the only one who noticed. I'll keep that in mind going forward.
I just LOVE how the Nay, Nay, Nay, Nay is constantly said here and in the comments. Look up the Tay Bridge Disaster. in Scotland in the late 1800's. They raised that engine, refurbished her and ran her again. The conditions were dangerous but she ender her days as scrap and Britain was a less wealthy county than the United States was. Yeah, it's difficult AND expensive but then again, how many of us remember the Berlin Wall and the fall of the Soviet Union. I NEVER in my life thought these would fall and they did. So be fore you say NAY, NAY, NAY think again. In fact, I can think of about $10.0 billion of the wealth of 2 certain Billionaireds combined that could bring up and restore at least 2-3 of the locos. Remember ladies and gentlemen, nothing is impossible. Depends on what you put your mind to.
"Why not bring it up?" Do you see 80+ year old ships being raised from the depths? Is it smaller than a ship? Depends...to anything larger than a heavy cruiser (such as the Admiral Hipper class), yes, to a light cruiser, or destroyer, depends...on the class. Can we get it running, on static display, etc? *NO!* That steel will crumble under it's own weight once it does come out, especially after DECADES of sitting in said body of water.
Fake news. It’s been done several times with locomotives.
yeah my mom beleivs anyone doing things on the internet (you) are children or couldnt get on tv or its a hobby, and anyone on tv really is the best for the job. Im reminded of an article with Stephen Merchant and Rick Gervais. It was about their passion for music or something, maybe about the office or extras. Ricky's favorite song is "If you see her say hello" by Bob Dylan. obviously recorde, they transcribe it as, "If you see a sailor" whatever. they dont care, its not their story they dont care. The entire article calls Merchant, Mitchell. didnt check. doesnt care. why should they? articles arent written to be revisited. or cited by guys like you. just for punters asking "whos done what today," and forget it immediatley.
"Wheres the office set?
"Swindon I think?"
"Yeah whatever no ones going to watch their dumb show anyway"
First
Why is the thumbnail AI
Bro why are you being goofyass while explaining?
man bro used an AI image for the thumbnail
Please stop using AI generated images for your videos.
Which AI generated images did he use?? This is a compilation of older videos that came out before AI generation even started being used
@@tempertantrum6464 the thumbnail.
I bet this can't get 500 likes
You’re right.
@@FlyingScotsman-mu5oi why won't that trick work
It's painfully obvious?