Read Jeremiah 4 where it supposedly supports this. It talks about the future desolation of Israel, not past desolation of the earth. In Jeremiah 33:2, GOD says that HE created the earth to establish it, so to form and mold it to perfection as we see in Genesis 1:1-31. In Isaiah 45:7, GOD says that HE creates light and makes darkness. GOD starting with an unformed, unfilled, not-yet-lighted world is not against His Perfect Nature, but destroying a pre Adamic world and not preserving anyone is against what we see GOD do in the Bible, such as with Noah. GOD always preserves a remnant.
Yeshua(Jesus) the Christ loves you! Praise YHWH El Shaddai and may He bless you! Christ is the King of kings and Lord of lords! (YHWH - the LORD) (El Shaddai - God Almighty) To those who haven’t; Repent of your sins and believe on the Adon Jesus the Christ, believe in your heart that He has died for your sins and rose from the tomb on the third day and you shall receive the Holy Spirit of God and He shall dwell within you. You shall be saved. Be baptized in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit! - Jesus the Christ loves you, praise YHWH our Elohim - Evidence for Jesus Christ’s existence, crucifixion, and disappearance from the tomb (He rose from it): The Lord Jesus Christ did exist, gathered disciples, and was crucified and went missing from the tomb. To argue about wether He was taken from the grave or rose from it, is an argument a skeptic can make. Because well if you disregard the eye witness testimony of the disciples and there willingness to die for Christ, and humans won’t die for something they know is a lie, when Peter is pinned upside down to that cross, he could have said that it was a fake, but He didn’t because it wasn’t, what care would he have about death in this world if he knew for a fact he had assurance of a life in another, Jesus Christ did rise from the tomb and is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords. Now the evidence for the Lord Jesus Christ’s existence really isn’t hard to find a multitude of non-Christian scholars and historians mention Him within 150 years after the time of His life. One such is Tacitus a Roman historian who reported on emperor nero’s decision to blame the Christians for the fire that had destroyed rome in 64 AD. Tacitus wrote: “Nero fastened the guilt ... on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of ... Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judaea, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome…” In this Tacitus makes reference to not only Christians, but Christ calling Him Christus and confirming the Gospels going on to say that He suffered the extreme penalty (crucifixion) under the reign of Tiberius and by the sentence of Pontius Pilate, which like I said confirms the Gospels narrative. Another important source of evidence about Jesus and early Christianity can be found in the letters of Pliny the Younger to Emperor Trajan. Pliny was the Roman governor of Bithynia in Asia Minor. In one of his letters, dated around A.D. 112, he asks Trajan's advice about the appropriate way to conduct legal proceedings against those accused of being Christians. Pliny says that he needed to consult the emperor about this issue because a great multitude of every age, class, and sex stood accused of Christianity. At one point in his letter, Pliny relates some of the information he has learned about these Christians: “They were in the habit of meeting on a certain fixed day before it was light, when they sang in alternate verses a hymn to Christ, as to a god, and bound themselves by a solemn oath, not to any wicked deeds, but never to commit any fraud, theft or adultery, never to falsify their word, nor deny a trust when they should be called upon to deliver it up; after which it was their custom to separate, and then reassemble to partake of food - but food of an ordinary and innocent kind.” This passage provides a number of interesting insights into the beliefs and practices of early Christians. First, we see that Christians regularly met on a certain fixed day for worship. Second, their worship was directed to Christ, demonstrating that they firmly believed in His divinity. Furthermore, one scholar interprets Pliny's statement that hymns were sung to Christ, "as to a god", as a reference to the rather distinctive fact that, "unlike other gods who were worshipped, Christ was a person who had lived on earth." If this interpretation is correct, Pliny understood that Christians were worshipping an actual historical person as God! Of course, this agrees perfectly with the New Testament doctrine that Jesus was both God and man. You may have heard of the scholar Flavius Josephus who mentioned James as being the brother of the Lord Jesus Christ, which matches what Paul said calling James “The Lord’s brother” and there is another document that Josephus may have written which goes: “About this time there lived Jesus, a wise man, if indeed one ought to call him a man. For he ... wrought surprising feats.... He was the Christ. When Pilate ...condemned him to be crucified, those who had . . . come to love him did not give up their affection for him. On the third day he appeared ... restored to life.... And the tribe of Christians ... has ... not disappeared.” Now it’s up to debate wether this is the entirely original document of what Josephus wrote, or if a Christian had edited it. But regardless he wrote about the Lord Jesus Christ. Wether it was negative or positive like the possible document is. Anyways there are many other statements, documents, letters, and writings of all sorts from the ancient world talking about the Lord Jesus Christ and there is not one question if He was a real person or if He was crucified and went missing from the grave. That is clear as day, He is a real person, was crucified, and went missing from the grave. And He did rise from the grave. And for more evidence of the Lord Jesus Christ, there’s the Bible and you see there is no evidence the Bible is corrupted, a lie, created by the Roman government, folktale. It is the recount of the Disciples of the Lord Jesus Christ, now wether you want to believe it is up to you. And what profit was there in spreading Christianity, All the early Christian suffered persecution, beatings, and were killed. Another Scholar reported that James the Lord’s Brother was thrown off a building and then stoned to death for spreading the Gospel in Jerusalem. These people went to great lengths even giving their own lives for the Adon Jesus the Christ.
Yeshua(Jesus) the Christ loves you! Praise YHWH El Shaddai and may He bless you! Christ is the King of kings and Lord of lords! (YHWH - the LORD) (El Shaddai - God Almighty) To those who haven’t; Repent of your sins and believe on the Adon Jesus the Christ, believe in your heart that He has died for your sins and rose from the tomb on the third day and you shall receive the Holy Spirit of God and He shall dwell within you. You shall be saved. Be baptized in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit! - Jesus the Christ loves you, praise YHWH our Elohim - Evidence for Jesus Christ’s existence, crucifixion, and disappearance from the tomb (He rose from it): The Lord Jesus Christ did exist, gathered disciples, and was crucified and went missing from the tomb. To argue about wether He was taken from the grave or rose from it, is an argument a skeptic can make. Because well if you disregard the eye witness testimony of the disciples and there willingness to die for Christ, and humans won’t die for something they know is a lie, when Peter is pinned upside down to that cross, he could have said that it was a fake, but He didn’t because it wasn’t, what care would he have about death in this world if he knew for a fact he had assurance of a life in another, Jesus Christ did rise from the tomb and is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords. Now the evidence for the Lord Jesus Christ’s existence really isn’t hard to find a multitude of non-Christian scholars and historians mention Him within 150 years after the time of His life. One such is Tacitus a Roman historian who reported on emperor nero’s decision to blame the Christians for the fire that had destroyed rome in 64 AD. Tacitus wrote: “Nero fastened the guilt ... on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of ... Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judaea, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome…” In this Tacitus makes reference to not only Christians, but Christ calling Him Christus and confirming the Gospels going on to say that He suffered the extreme penalty (crucifixion) under the reign of Tiberius and by the sentence of Pontius Pilate, which like I said confirms the Gospels narrative. Another important source of evidence about Jesus and early Christianity can be found in the letters of Pliny the Younger to Emperor Trajan. Pliny was the Roman governor of Bithynia in Asia Minor. In one of his letters, dated around A.D. 112, he asks Trajan's advice about the appropriate way to conduct legal proceedings against those accused of being Christians. Pliny says that he needed to consult the emperor about this issue because a great multitude of every age, class, and sex stood accused of Christianity. At one point in his letter, Pliny relates some of the information he has learned about these Christians: “They were in the habit of meeting on a certain fixed day before it was light, when they sang in alternate verses a hymn to Christ, as to a god, and bound themselves by a solemn oath, not to any wicked deeds, but never to commit any fraud, theft or adultery, never to falsify their word, nor deny a trust when they should be called upon to deliver it up; after which it was their custom to separate, and then reassemble to partake of food - but food of an ordinary and innocent kind.” This passage provides a number of interesting insights into the beliefs and practices of early Christians. First, we see that Christians regularly met on a certain fixed day for worship. Second, their worship was directed to Christ, demonstrating that they firmly believed in His divinity. Furthermore, one scholar interprets Pliny's statement that hymns were sung to Christ, "as to a god", as a reference to the rather distinctive fact that, "unlike other gods who were worshipped, Christ was a person who had lived on earth." If this interpretation is correct, Pliny understood that Christians were worshipping an actual historical person as God! Of course, this agrees perfectly with the New Testament doctrine that Jesus was both God and man. You may have heard of the scholar Flavius Josephus who mentioned James as being the brother of the Lord Jesus Christ, which matches what Paul said calling James “The Lord’s brother” and there is another document that Josephus may have written which goes: “About this time there lived Jesus, a wise man, if indeed one ought to call him a man. For he ... wrought surprising feats.... He was the Christ. When Pilate ...condemned him to be crucified, those who had . . . come to love him did not give up their affection for him. On the third day he appeared ... restored to life.... And the tribe of Christians ... has ... not disappeared.” Now it’s up to debate wether this is the entirely original document of what Josephus wrote, or if a Christian had edited it. But regardless he wrote about the Lord Jesus Christ. Wether it was negative or positive like the possible document is. Anyways there are many other statements, documents, letters, and writings of all sorts from the ancient world talking about the Lord Jesus Christ and there is not one question if He was a real person or if He was crucified and went missing from the grave. That is clear as day, He is a real person, was crucified, and went missing from the grave. And He did rise from the grave. And for more evidence of the Lord Jesus Christ, there’s the Bible and you see there is no evidence the Bible is corrupted, a lie, created by the Roman government, folktale. It is the recount of the Disciples of the Lord Jesus Christ, now wether you want to believe it is up to you. And what profit was there in spreading Christianity, All the early Christian suffered persecution, beatings, and were killed. Another Scholar reported that James the Lord’s Brother was thrown off a building and then stoned to death for spreading the Gospel in Jerusalem. These people went to great lengths even giving their own lives for the Adon Jesus the Christ.
I have browsed every single book of the Bible out of curiosity, and have never found one single reference to Job being a pre-Adamite man. Perhaps he may have been born not long after Noah died, I don't know. But he definitely was not part of a race before God created Adam and Eve.
Haven’t you ever heard the theory that the book of Job predates the 1st book of Moses? We just have to go deeper in our research because every information on the internet has been re-written to suit a particular narrative. Forget this medium when doing factual and In-depth research and analysis
Shalom pastor, concerned the weakness of a soul I asked my mum but her response was different, she said anything you’ll give it her it doesn’t affect her she even get stronger and stronger…. when she’s pregnant.
You got some things right and some things wrong. Cain did marry his sister. That is why later on God gave a lot of don't as far as relationships go (Leviticus 18:7-18) At this time there were enough people around that sexual relationships were not necessary between close knitted family members. AND while Job is the oldest book in the Bible, he was NOT pre-Adamic. Moses wrote Job as well as Genesis. It just makes sense to put Genesis first since it started with creation. Who is to say that Moses did not penned these two books in the same week. Job was a contemporary of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. All the available information fits the patriarchal age. Job’s wealth consists of cattle and slaves like Abraham. Job appears as a priest of the family. There was neither a central place of worship nor a priesthood mentioned. These all indicate a time prior to Moses law.
Cain never married his sister. Prove you point here with facts let’s dive into your research Senior. The garden of Eden according all ancient eastern interpretations, was simply a protected zone. Cain left to Nod and never came back to his family. And even after the 2 boys, we know Seth was born so how would his father Adam allow him to take any of his sisters with him after what he did to Abel.. this is just logical reasoning people.
Can you prove Moses wrote Job? As far as I am aware, it’s not an accurate fact. It is an assumption and theologians say, the book of Job can be attributed to Moses… but that has never been established as a fact.
I wish Pastor would tell us more about Job being a Pre-Adamic man. *Do Pre-Adamic men give birth such as in the case of Job *Were those people in Job men or spirits because we saw procreation in Jobs era *Was death present in the days of Job? Because we know Job died Pastor, kindly teach us more.
Pre-adamic races must have multiplied,, scientists have discovered their fossils, they are considered not human but close. Death must have been present, dinosaura died before they were extinct.. they existed with other human-like races When Adam sinned it was fall of our humanity from Gods glory..
This is what happens when a man has not found the kingdom, Nicodemus spirit right here. So many of these men are ever learning but never able to arrive at the knowledge of the truth.
@@keiajones5278 no really this message has nothing to do with white or black race.. anyway pastor explained using bible,, also Jesus is Lord for those who obey God and faith in Jesus it does not matter if Jew or Greek or Gentile , only those who are holy and bear fruit for Gods kingdom are of the Father
Job was a prophet of God, which means he would need to communicate with God on a spiritual level. Adam was the first spiritual being so Job descended from this spiritual geneaology.
some scriptures in the bible talk both of future, past and present, ( in one) we must be able to divide the scriptures well, just like the book of revelation, we might be found to be liars when we try to inter-prate what we can explain well.
In Gen 1:2 the earth „was without form and void „ was a mistranslation and typographical error from the KJV translation. The Hebrew words in Gen 1:2 is *Tohǔ vǎ bohǔ*- become waste and desolation”. That is the meaning of that text. So Jeremiah 4:23 better sheds more light into Gen 1:2. More than 5,226 typographical errors were made in the original KJV translation of 1611 and beyond. May the Most High bless you Pastor.
Jeremiah 4:26- is not talking about pre adamic world but rather the land of israel that will become desolate because they refuse to return to God and change their evil ways.
It is possible that Job was a pre-adamic one. There's always a reference of previous events such as the journey of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob that is known to all generations that came after them. Why there's no reference of Noah's journey in the conversation of God and Job, even Job's friends they don't say anything about where they came from. What happened to Noah and his family is a prove of how powerful God is, and It seems as Job and his three friends know nothing about Noah and his family. Why?
You may be right the story of Job can fits in the previous world, Christ is the begining of creation as he is Adam/man alpha in the previous world, the image of God, born by spoken word he is the first born of all creation, he was glorified in the pre adamic angelic world, before this world exist this is genesis 1:1, And the world was destroyed and God recreated new earth, and all the sons of God(angels/beneha elohim) saw this creation and they shout for joy, lord God created another race formed from dust, a mankind lower than angels/Gods, and the keeper of Eden Adam of this is fall from sin, and cast out of Eden, "you are man, not God", "You are in Eden, the garden of God" Ezekiel 28,,and the begotten son Christ came as last Adam(omega) and second adam in this age, Adam from Previous world came as second Adam, or last Adam.,,,,angels in heaven are like elderly sons of God who stayed in the house of God, like elderly brother in the story of a prodigal son, an we humans the follower of satan are offspring of vipers and we must return home to the father, Christ is our peace he has destroyed the barrier two groups of sons of God(angels/humans) but we must becarefull there are rebellion groups out there, the fallen angels, the satan,,,Job is born before Adam which is christ and in the same manner he is born after Adam the sinful one, sory iam not english 😁
Pastor..I think you are out of track...if Job was truely pre - Adamic, then Adam must have been Job's son.Even a pre- schooler can debate this heresay...
He is not connecting the dots. He leaves his audience hanging. It is a biblical fact that there were living creatures before Adam since Adam and later Eve were the last of God’s creations. But as to Job coming before Adam? -he did not explain, neither did he enlighten us on where Adams children got their spouses.
@@yaaobenewaah1697 it does your just not reading right.. u think Job is after Adam?.. does it matter when Job is from?.. it doesnt matter when, hes inserted wothout time frame
I love the man of God but until he proves what this scripture means. I can't say there was man before Adam 1 Corinthians 15:47 The first man [is] of the earth, earthy: the second man [is] the Lord from heaven.
Completely stupid explanation that has no scriptural backing. All scriptures mentioned did not indicate a world of men before adam. Job wasnt pre adamic.
What Pastor is saying is very true. And there are references in the Bible from Genesis through Jeremiah.
Read Jeremiah 4 where it supposedly supports this. It talks about the future desolation of Israel, not past desolation of the earth. In Jeremiah 33:2, GOD says that HE created the earth to establish it, so to form and mold it to perfection as we see in Genesis 1:1-31. In Isaiah 45:7, GOD says that HE creates light and makes darkness. GOD starting with an unformed, unfilled, not-yet-lighted world is not against His Perfect Nature, but destroying a pre Adamic world and not preserving anyone is against what we see GOD do in the Bible, such as with Noah. GOD always preserves a remnant.
Pastor is always right on scriptures.
The man of God with Mysteries. Always a blessing
Yeshua(Jesus) the Christ loves you! Praise YHWH El Shaddai and may He bless you! Christ is the King of kings and Lord of lords!
(YHWH - the LORD) (El Shaddai - God Almighty)
To those who haven’t; Repent of your sins and believe on the Adon Jesus the Christ, believe in your heart that He has died for your sins and rose from the tomb on the third day and you shall receive the Holy Spirit of God and He shall dwell within you. You shall be saved. Be baptized in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit!
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Jesus the Christ loves you, praise YHWH our Elohim
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Evidence for Jesus Christ’s existence, crucifixion, and disappearance from the tomb (He rose from it):
The Lord Jesus Christ did exist, gathered disciples, and was crucified and went missing from the tomb. To argue about wether He was taken from the grave or rose from it, is an argument a skeptic can make. Because well if you disregard the eye witness testimony of the disciples and there willingness to die for Christ, and humans won’t die for something they know is a lie, when Peter is pinned upside down to that cross, he could have said that it was a fake, but He didn’t because it wasn’t, what care would he have about death in this world if he knew for a fact he had assurance of a life in another, Jesus Christ did rise from the tomb and is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords. Now the evidence for the Lord Jesus Christ’s existence really isn’t hard to find a multitude of non-Christian scholars and historians mention Him within 150 years after the time of His life. One such is Tacitus a Roman historian who reported on emperor nero’s decision to blame the Christians for the fire that had destroyed rome in 64 AD. Tacitus wrote:
“Nero fastened the guilt ... on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of ... Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judaea, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome…”
In this Tacitus makes reference to not only Christians, but Christ calling Him Christus and confirming the Gospels going on to say that He suffered the extreme penalty (crucifixion) under the reign of Tiberius and by the sentence of Pontius Pilate, which like I said confirms the Gospels narrative.
Another important source of evidence about Jesus and early Christianity can be found in the letters of Pliny the Younger to Emperor Trajan. Pliny was the Roman governor of Bithynia in Asia Minor. In one of his letters, dated around A.D. 112, he asks Trajan's advice about the appropriate way to conduct legal proceedings against those accused of being Christians. Pliny says that he needed to consult the emperor about this issue because a great multitude of every age, class, and sex stood accused of Christianity. At one point in his letter, Pliny relates some of the information he has learned about these Christians:
“They were in the habit of meeting on a certain fixed day before it was light, when they sang in alternate verses a hymn to Christ, as to a god, and bound themselves by a solemn oath, not to any wicked deeds, but never to commit any fraud, theft or adultery, never to falsify their word, nor deny a trust when they should be called upon to deliver it up; after which it was their custom to separate, and then reassemble to partake of food - but food of an ordinary and innocent kind.”
This passage provides a number of interesting insights into the beliefs and practices of early Christians. First, we see that Christians regularly met on a certain fixed day for worship. Second, their worship was directed to Christ, demonstrating that they firmly believed in His divinity. Furthermore, one scholar interprets Pliny's statement that hymns were sung to Christ, "as to a god", as a reference to the rather distinctive fact that, "unlike other gods who were worshipped, Christ was a person who had lived on earth." If this interpretation is correct, Pliny understood that Christians were worshipping an actual historical person as God! Of course, this agrees perfectly with the New Testament doctrine that Jesus was both God and man.
You may have heard of the scholar Flavius Josephus who mentioned James as being the brother of the Lord Jesus Christ, which matches what Paul said calling James “The Lord’s brother” and there is another document that Josephus may have written which goes:
“About this time there lived Jesus, a wise man, if indeed one ought to call him a man. For he ... wrought surprising feats.... He was the Christ. When Pilate ...condemned him to be crucified, those who had . . . come to love him did not give up their affection for him. On the third day he appeared ... restored to life.... And the tribe of Christians ... has ... not disappeared.”
Now it’s up to debate wether this is the entirely original document of what Josephus wrote, or if a Christian had edited it. But regardless he wrote about the Lord Jesus Christ. Wether it was negative or positive like the possible document is. Anyways there are many other statements, documents, letters, and writings of all sorts from the ancient world talking about the Lord Jesus Christ and there is not one question if He was a real person or if He was crucified and went missing from the grave. That is clear as day, He is a real person, was crucified, and went missing from the grave. And He did rise from the grave. And for more evidence of the Lord Jesus Christ, there’s the Bible and you see there is no evidence the Bible is corrupted, a lie, created by the Roman government, folktale. It is the recount of the Disciples of the Lord Jesus Christ, now wether you want to believe it is up to you. And what profit was there in spreading Christianity, All the early Christian suffered persecution, beatings, and were killed. Another Scholar reported that James the Lord’s Brother was thrown off a building and then stoned to death for spreading the Gospel in Jerusalem. These people went to great lengths even giving their own lives for the Adon Jesus the Christ.
It’s always a blessing listening to the teachings of Pastor Obed! God bless you Man of God
Yeshua(Jesus) the Christ loves you! Praise YHWH El Shaddai and may He bless you! Christ is the King of kings and Lord of lords!
(YHWH - the LORD) (El Shaddai - God Almighty)
To those who haven’t; Repent of your sins and believe on the Adon Jesus the Christ, believe in your heart that He has died for your sins and rose from the tomb on the third day and you shall receive the Holy Spirit of God and He shall dwell within you. You shall be saved. Be baptized in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit!
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Jesus the Christ loves you, praise YHWH our Elohim
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Evidence for Jesus Christ’s existence, crucifixion, and disappearance from the tomb (He rose from it):
The Lord Jesus Christ did exist, gathered disciples, and was crucified and went missing from the tomb. To argue about wether He was taken from the grave or rose from it, is an argument a skeptic can make. Because well if you disregard the eye witness testimony of the disciples and there willingness to die for Christ, and humans won’t die for something they know is a lie, when Peter is pinned upside down to that cross, he could have said that it was a fake, but He didn’t because it wasn’t, what care would he have about death in this world if he knew for a fact he had assurance of a life in another, Jesus Christ did rise from the tomb and is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords. Now the evidence for the Lord Jesus Christ’s existence really isn’t hard to find a multitude of non-Christian scholars and historians mention Him within 150 years after the time of His life. One such is Tacitus a Roman historian who reported on emperor nero’s decision to blame the Christians for the fire that had destroyed rome in 64 AD. Tacitus wrote:
“Nero fastened the guilt ... on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of ... Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judaea, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome…”
In this Tacitus makes reference to not only Christians, but Christ calling Him Christus and confirming the Gospels going on to say that He suffered the extreme penalty (crucifixion) under the reign of Tiberius and by the sentence of Pontius Pilate, which like I said confirms the Gospels narrative.
Another important source of evidence about Jesus and early Christianity can be found in the letters of Pliny the Younger to Emperor Trajan. Pliny was the Roman governor of Bithynia in Asia Minor. In one of his letters, dated around A.D. 112, he asks Trajan's advice about the appropriate way to conduct legal proceedings against those accused of being Christians. Pliny says that he needed to consult the emperor about this issue because a great multitude of every age, class, and sex stood accused of Christianity. At one point in his letter, Pliny relates some of the information he has learned about these Christians:
“They were in the habit of meeting on a certain fixed day before it was light, when they sang in alternate verses a hymn to Christ, as to a god, and bound themselves by a solemn oath, not to any wicked deeds, but never to commit any fraud, theft or adultery, never to falsify their word, nor deny a trust when they should be called upon to deliver it up; after which it was their custom to separate, and then reassemble to partake of food - but food of an ordinary and innocent kind.”
This passage provides a number of interesting insights into the beliefs and practices of early Christians. First, we see that Christians regularly met on a certain fixed day for worship. Second, their worship was directed to Christ, demonstrating that they firmly believed in His divinity. Furthermore, one scholar interprets Pliny's statement that hymns were sung to Christ, "as to a god", as a reference to the rather distinctive fact that, "unlike other gods who were worshipped, Christ was a person who had lived on earth." If this interpretation is correct, Pliny understood that Christians were worshipping an actual historical person as God! Of course, this agrees perfectly with the New Testament doctrine that Jesus was both God and man.
You may have heard of the scholar Flavius Josephus who mentioned James as being the brother of the Lord Jesus Christ, which matches what Paul said calling James “The Lord’s brother” and there is another document that Josephus may have written which goes:
“About this time there lived Jesus, a wise man, if indeed one ought to call him a man. For he ... wrought surprising feats.... He was the Christ. When Pilate ...condemned him to be crucified, those who had . . . come to love him did not give up their affection for him. On the third day he appeared ... restored to life.... And the tribe of Christians ... has ... not disappeared.”
Now it’s up to debate wether this is the entirely original document of what Josephus wrote, or if a Christian had edited it. But regardless he wrote about the Lord Jesus Christ. Wether it was negative or positive like the possible document is. Anyways there are many other statements, documents, letters, and writings of all sorts from the ancient world talking about the Lord Jesus Christ and there is not one question if He was a real person or if He was crucified and went missing from the grave. That is clear as day, He is a real person, was crucified, and went missing from the grave. And He did rise from the grave. And for more evidence of the Lord Jesus Christ, there’s the Bible and you see there is no evidence the Bible is corrupted, a lie, created by the Roman government, folktale. It is the recount of the Disciples of the Lord Jesus Christ, now wether you want to believe it is up to you. And what profit was there in spreading Christianity, All the early Christian suffered persecution, beatings, and were killed. Another Scholar reported that James the Lord’s Brother was thrown off a building and then stoned to death for spreading the Gospel in Jerusalem. These people went to great lengths even giving their own lives for the Adon Jesus the Christ.
Thanks Daddy🙏🏼
I have browsed every single book of the Bible out of curiosity, and have never found one single reference to Job being a pre-Adamite man. Perhaps he may have been born not long after Noah died, I don't know. But he definitely was not part of a race before God created Adam and Eve.
Agreed. False Teaching
False teaching
Haven’t you ever heard the theory that the book of Job predates the 1st book of Moses? We just have to go deeper in our research because every information on the internet has been re-written to suit a particular narrative. Forget this medium when doing factual and In-depth research and analysis
Evidences are right In front of you all.. you just chose to ignore the truth and be let by all these useless bible translations guys
praise the Lord
I really knew time didn't start with creation.
Very interesting. So the books are out of order. Job preceding Genesis. I liked how Pastor Obed is connecting the dots
This man of God is really learned 👏👏👏
Actually he is not learned at all. He is a gnostic.
Aligned
Shalom pastor, concerned the weakness of a soul I asked my mum but her response was different, she said anything you’ll give it her it doesn’t affect her she even get stronger and stronger…. when she’s pregnant.
Awesome.. GOD BLESS YOU DADDY
Very Very deep
You got some things right and some things wrong. Cain did marry his sister. That is why later on God gave a lot of don't as far as relationships go (Leviticus 18:7-18) At this time there were enough people around that sexual relationships were not necessary between close knitted family members. AND while Job is the oldest book in the Bible, he was NOT pre-Adamic. Moses wrote Job as well as Genesis. It just makes sense to put Genesis first since it started with creation. Who is to say that Moses did not penned these two books in the same week. Job was a contemporary of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. All the available information fits the patriarchal age. Job’s wealth consists of cattle and slaves like Abraham. Job appears as a priest of the family. There was neither a central place of worship nor a priesthood mentioned. These all indicate a time prior to Moses law.
Cain never married his sister. Prove you point here with facts let’s dive into your research Senior. The garden of Eden according all ancient eastern interpretations, was simply a protected zone. Cain left to Nod and never came back to his family. And even after the 2 boys, we know Seth was born so how would his father Adam allow him to take any of his sisters with him after what he did to Abel.. this is just logical reasoning people.
Can you prove Moses wrote Job? As far as I am aware, it’s not an accurate fact. It is an assumption and theologians say, the book of Job can be attributed to Moses… but that has never been established as a fact.
I wish Pastor would tell us more about Job being a Pre-Adamic man.
*Do Pre-Adamic men give birth such as in the case of Job
*Were those people in Job men or spirits because we saw procreation in Jobs era
*Was death present in the days of Job? Because we know Job died
Pastor, kindly teach us more.
Pre-adamic races must have multiplied,, scientists have discovered their fossils, they are considered not human but close.
Death must have been present, dinosaura died before they were extinct.. they existed with other human-like races
When Adam sinned it was fall of our humanity from Gods glory..
Always a blessing
Heaven and earth met together at one point and time.....and sin cause it to be desolation....🤯
Pastor Obed youare reincarnation of Solomon keep it up iam happy for you
This is what happens when a man has not found the kingdom, Nicodemus spirit right here. So many of these men are ever learning but never able to arrive at the knowledge of the truth.
What he's saying is true, a correct example is David's mighty men .
You've arrived at knowledge??
the so called revelations ? lost revelations
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I wonder ohhh, some of these hypocrite who go on social media to copy from people..
@@davidali1171 I’m shocked
We w are truly living in on a carcasses.....no more fruit ful place....
Pastor I'm thankful 4 u, I been saying this 4 yrs everyone say I'm crazy but u just helped me to reveal the truth the white man try to keep hidden
The quest for truth transcends skin color; people from all different backgrounds want to know the truth.
@@michaelshaw2576 it's the evidence of how untruthful it actually is.
It has nothing to do with white or black.. we are human race..
@@jonathanlopez5405 it has everything to do with race, because we have been brainwashed in white supremacy
@@keiajones5278 no really this message has nothing to do with white or black race.. anyway pastor explained using bible,, also Jesus is Lord for those who obey God and faith in Jesus it does not matter if Jew or Greek or Gentile , only those who are holy and bear fruit for Gods kingdom are of the Father
Job was a prophet of God, which means he would need to communicate with God on a spiritual level. Adam was the first spiritual being so Job descended from this spiritual geneaology.
some scriptures in the bible talk both of future, past and present, ( in one) we must be able to divide the scriptures well, just like the book of revelation, we might be found to be liars when we try to inter-prate what we can explain well.
So the land of Uz existed before Adam?
Where can I hear the whole interview?
Job before Adam 🤞I can't understand
Job cannot be a pre-adamite. In the book of Jasher he visits Egypt when Jacob's sons where there.
Wow! I have to keep reading
Grow up the book of Jasher was written in 1750😂
Well I don’t remember the book of Jasher being part of any apocalypse.
Nobody gonna comment on the letters on his chest?
Job can never and will never be pre Adamic.
Amen
There were giants in those days and after genisis_6-1_2_3
In Gen 1:2 the earth „was without form and void „ was a mistranslation and typographical error from the KJV translation. The Hebrew words in Gen 1:2 is *Tohǔ vǎ bohǔ*- become waste and desolation”.
That is the meaning of that text. So Jeremiah 4:23 better sheds more light into Gen 1:2.
More than 5,226 typographical errors were made in the original KJV translation of 1611 and beyond.
May the Most High bless you Pastor.
No preadamic man existed after Adam because the earth was completely covered with water prior to being recreated in Genesis 1v2.
Jeremiah 4:26- is not talking about pre adamic world but rather the land of israel that will become desolate because they refuse to return to God and change their evil ways.
It is possible that Job was a pre-adamic one. There's always a reference of previous events such as the journey of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob that is known to all generations that came after them. Why there's no reference of Noah's journey in the conversation of God and Job, even Job's friends they don't say anything about where they came from. What happened to Noah and his family is a prove of how powerful God is, and It seems as Job and his three friends know nothing about Noah and his family. Why?
Museums around the world are filled with the bones of humanoid creatures, Cro-Magnon neanderthal etc. explain that!
You may be right the story of Job can fits in the previous world, Christ is the begining of creation as he is Adam/man alpha in the previous world, the image of God, born by spoken word he is the first born of all creation, he was glorified in the pre adamic angelic world, before this world exist this is genesis 1:1,
And the world was destroyed and God recreated new earth, and all the sons of God(angels/beneha elohim) saw this creation and they shout for joy, lord God created another race formed from dust, a mankind lower than angels/Gods, and the keeper of Eden Adam of this is fall from sin, and cast out of Eden, "you are man, not God", "You are in Eden, the garden of God" Ezekiel 28,,and the begotten son Christ came as last Adam(omega) and second adam in this age, Adam from Previous world came as second Adam, or last Adam.,,,,angels in heaven are like elderly sons of God who stayed in the house of God, like elderly brother in the story of a prodigal son, an we humans the follower of satan are offspring of vipers and we must return home to the father, Christ is our peace he has destroyed the barrier two groups of sons of God(angels/humans) but we must becarefull there are rebellion groups out there, the fallen angels, the satan,,,Job is born before Adam which is christ and in the same manner he is born after Adam the sinful one, sory iam not english 😁
Pastor..I think you are out of track...if Job was truely pre - Adamic, then Adam must have been Job's son.Even a pre- schooler can debate this heresay...
The book of enoch
Where is the proof?
Everywhere
He is not connecting the dots. He leaves his audience hanging.
It is a biblical fact that there were living creatures before Adam since Adam and later Eve were the last of God’s creations. But as to Job coming before Adam? -he did not explain, neither did he enlighten us on where Adams children got their spouses.
Jargon. Job before Adam. Crazy nonsense
Why is it nonsense?.. Job genealogy is not shown to trace adam
@@jonathanlopez5405 not everyones genealogy is in the Bible
@@yaaobenewaah1697 thats the point im trying to make.. its ok for Job to be before Adam because bible never gave geneology or time frame of Job
@@jonathanlopez5405 that makes zero sense
@@yaaobenewaah1697 it does your just not reading right.. u think Job is after Adam?.. does it matter when Job is from?.. it doesnt matter when, hes inserted wothout time frame
Hmmm
I love the man of God but until he proves what this scripture means. I can't say there was man before Adam
1 Corinthians 15:47 The first man [is] of the earth, earthy: the second man [is] the Lord from heaven.
Job was a pre Adamic man???????!!!!! This is not scriptural, this is what is called heresy
Completely stupid explanation that has no scriptural backing. All scriptures mentioned did not indicate a world of men before adam. Job wasnt pre adamic.
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Pastor is lying Job is from the line of Adam
Ufffff.......wat confidence to dupe people.
Pastor Obed is wrong Job is not pre adamic. People make the bible so complicated
Job wasn't a pre-adamic MAN.
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I hope you are not getting paid for this ridiculous performance.