honestly the idea of having two sticks for left and right looks great. but i hate mounting and dismounting all that shit tbh. I really would love to have a chair with a second plate of some kind where you can mount everything onto and when you dont need it you just rotate it to the side. And also i bought the T248 exactly just for this joystick and mounting kit that is gonna get released soon. but i hate it so much that the left switch is also only for different setups. I dont need that crap , i want to be able to freely asign every single button. Cause i was hoping to use the left one for gears and right one for groups for manual shifting. So thats one thing that upsets me a bit about that wheel. but im quite excited to get my hands on one of these joysticks too
Personally I love the location and mapping of that mode control button, which gives you access to a lot more controls as a result. I can’t think of anywhere else I’d want it to be. I get that the logging buffs don’t need the extra controls but for the field farming players that mode control is an absolute must.
How diffrent is the joystick feeling? I have a farmstick and i want to buy another joystick but its cheaper with t.16000m and i dont really need more buttons than that so if the force adn smoothness of the joystick is roughly the same i want that
Ooo, thank you for the detailed review. I'm a loader operator and the details really matter to me and now I have an alternative to a pair of VKB gladiators. I'm really disappointed that I can't map the dual triggers to shuttle forward/reverse, though I'm more used to the Komatau/Wacker layout with ahuttle on the top so I can probably live with it even though it's not ideal.
Question: I bought 2 TM 1600M's and used them once. Two reasons: 1. had to re-map every single time I unplugged and re-plugged(a necessity if I wanna play other games) 2. The joysticks felt stiff as hell, couldn't be as precise as I am with a regular Xbox controller, which I was told I'd be far more precise. So question is, are these the same way on both points?
They look fairly symmetrical already though - except the thumb controls on the top of the stick. Not like the space sticks that have "ergonomic" shapes clearly made for one hand or the other. Noted that the new stick was lacking the left/right hand switch underneath as well.
@@roelmuziek We all know they’ll make more money selling them individually. They’re listed as singles. I doubt they would remold handles for a left and right. Trust me, I wish they were a left and right sold for 200 I’d buy em but it’s their business tactic.
Is it worth buying 2 of these for joysticks for first time joysticks or better to save money and buy the regular t16000Ms? Not being used as much for logging but more general gameplay with loaders and maybe getting into logging.
Hey FDR!! Slimjim here... been a while since I've played but those sticks look sweet! Maybe I'll get off the tugboat long enough to try them one day....
Currently looking for the smoothest config for my T6000's and im interested in what key bindings you use. It looks really smooth. Could you write it out maybe? :)
It doesn't look like you can lock the twist handle, these are a no go for me then as I have had enough of tuckin wires and rearranging the twists potentiometer every 3 weeks
Although I admit I scrubbed through the video, I can still say it was a great review, so thanks. I am quite interested in this stick, however I'm concerned about being able to comfortably access all of the controls on the head of stick. I have little T-rex hands, and I can't imagine I'll be able to control the hat joystick without lifting my hand off of the rest. Correct me if I'm wrong, but when you accessed it, it looks like your hand was up off of the rest, albeit you were simply demonstrating and not using it as intended. That said, it appears you'd still have to move your hand up the stick a bit to get to the hat and wheel. Am I wrong here? Now I think I could tolerate not being able to use the hat joystick, yet I know it will become tiresome. Also, I'm not confident I would be able to bend my thumb under enough to accurately, and comfortably for that matter, access the six buttons at the base of the head. I actually use HOTAS to play MMOGs whereas I'm constantly panning the camera as well as the other buttons. I'm just not sure the constant need to move my hand, assuming this is a fact, will not end up being prohibitive in terms fatigue. Can you give me an idea of the ergonomics in practice, say, when using it as a flight sim stick? Thanks
They are Thrustmasters. I'm pretty sure you can write your own scripts ( or download other's ) for it with the TARGET Script Editor ( or even in the GUI I'm sure ) so you can do whatever you want with those trigger buttons or any other buttons/axis. As far as I know that is a trigger to switch between drive and workmode on complex machines.
yeah at the time of the review the target software didn't have these as detectable sticks just yet, so Im hoping when its released I can make the changes ;)
I have been looking at going dual joystick setup for logging. My question is how do you setup for dual joysticks. I figure they each have to be in there own usb but how would it recognize which is right and left. I already have your maps mods and controls just haven’t touched any of it or set key binding cause I was waiting till I got joy sticks.
You just plug them in and then YOU assign the controls to left and right, each usb has its own special "ID" number so your PC and game remember which is which
@@FDRLoggingsweet that’s what I needed to know I wasn’t sure. I think I will buy a pair of these then. Cause like you I have ran equipment for years. And don’t do a lot of logging cause I’m so used to equipment joysticks I get aggravated with a Xbox remote when I can’t be as smooth 😂. so I got all your mods equipment and the control lay out just waited on binding anything cause I wanted to get joysticks first. Cause I’m setting key bindings just like the equipment I run.
@FDRLogging how did you find the tension/resistance on the farmstick compared to the tm16000? I find the tm16000 very light compared to a real machine.
look like modded version for t16000m. there are just twin cheap made joystick .My 2 t16000 broke like many people, on z axis.(twist) fs22 often mixing right and left joystick on start. so needed to remap. there are at cheap price but cheap made. i have switch to twin vkb joystick. its day and night more expensive but there are tought better feeling. I really recommend vkb. you can find 3d print mount for desk too.
Id gotta say this new Farmstick feels way more sturdy and firmer build quality than the T16000m but I never really had any issues with the T16000 over my 4 years of abuse, hoping these go just as long!
The Z axis issue with the stick is often just the sensor coming loose due to poor assembly. You can just put it back into its place and maybe fix it with some hotglue so it wont come loose next time.
Yes sir ill definitely be buying a set through your website win these get a available. Thanks fdr for all you do for use loggers your definitely appreciated 👍
@@highball73 oh I do love them, just these would have been better and plus, they don’t have those stupid sliders at the bottom that constantly move my map
@trollwayy5981 yeah I agree I turned my sliders off and my map still moves around hate it anyways is it to late to try and send your sticks back for a refund ?
See My Farmstick Control Setup Video for Farming Simulator Here - ua-cam.com/video/FoXlG8djR8s/v-deo.htmlsi=MMHTZJGoEGb-_MTf
Can I have your old ones
Where can I get it from
Finally companies paying attention to sim market. This joystick with the new Hori controls could be awesome setup for all kinds of heavy equipment
Yeah im extremely brand loyal to Thrustmaster after how much time I got out of my T16000Ms, highly recommend them!
I like the minimal packaging. Means my money is going to the product not the box it comes in
This is gonna make farming and logging a LOT more fun, way better than the clunky old saitek panel I have
I was getting ready to buy the t16000's but saw these and decided to wait for some reviews. Great video!!! I'm super stoked to get these!!
Bought my t16000 one monte before they announced the New one xD
I think the ideal setup would be the 1600 stick on the left and one of these on the right
honestly the idea of having two sticks for left and right looks great. but i hate mounting and dismounting all that shit tbh. I really would love to have a chair with a second plate of some kind where you can mount everything onto and when you dont need it you just rotate it to the side. And also i bought the T248 exactly just for this joystick and mounting kit that is gonna get released soon. but i hate it so much that the left switch is also only for different setups. I dont need that crap , i want to be able to freely asign every single button. Cause i was hoping to use the left one for gears and right one for groups for manual shifting. So thats one thing that upsets me a bit about that wheel. but im quite excited to get my hands on one of these joysticks too
Personally I love the location and mapping of that mode control button, which gives you access to a lot more controls as a result. I can’t think of anywhere else I’d want it to be. I get that the logging buffs don’t need the extra controls but for the field farming players that mode control is an absolute must.
Yeah i ended up disabling them on mine not a fan if them but im sure itll be good for someone ;)
@@FDRLogging absolutely :) I think a possible solution might even be a third switch, maybe below those two buttons.
I'm still using the side panel for my farming and logging. Having to press an extra button is kinda annoying so this might help
How diffrent is the joystick feeling? I have a farmstick and i want to buy another joystick but its cheaper with t.16000m and i dont really need more buttons than that so if the force adn smoothness of the joystick is roughly the same i want that
I see you have rudder pedals do they work for driving track equipment?
Any luck programming both trigger buttons?
Ooo, thank you for the detailed review. I'm a loader operator and the details really matter to me and now I have an alternative to a pair of VKB gladiators. I'm really disappointed that I can't map the dual triggers to shuttle forward/reverse, though I'm more used to the Komatau/Wacker layout with ahuttle on the top so I can probably live with it even though it's not ideal.
Agreed my only beef is the non mapable triggers other than that they have been awesome
i notice when you move your boom that your claw is rotating, is this from the joystick or just user error?
Bought the Vkb gladiator sticks, they are realy nice but i feel like logging with a jet fighter, This seems more realistic to logging. Nice!
is the t16000m dual stick setup still a viable option if one was looking to save some money?
Question: I bought 2 TM 1600M's and used them once.
Two reasons:
1. had to re-map every single time I unplugged and re-plugged(a necessity if I wanna play other games)
2. The joysticks felt stiff as hell, couldn't be as precise as I am with a regular Xbox controller, which I was told I'd be far more precise.
So question is, are these the same way on both points?
Well, I know what the next peripherals I'm getting are! These will replace my Duo T1600m's I think!
Me to! Glad that horrible slider button thing at the bottom has gone!
They're not for sale right now right?
probably feels better than the factory Komatsu switches
left and right one would be nice, in mirror shape
its because theyre not selling as a pair like the 16000M. 99.99 ea
they could sell em as pair@@CastleOD
They look fairly symmetrical already though - except the thumb controls on the top of the stick. Not like the space sticks that have "ergonomic" shapes clearly made for one hand or the other.
Noted that the new stick was lacking the left/right hand switch underneath as well.
@@roelmuziek We all know they’ll make more money selling them individually. They’re listed as singles. I doubt they would remold handles for a left and right. Trust me, I wish they were a left and right sold for 200 I’d buy em but it’s their business tactic.
Now I know how I see these people using cranes with ease lol
Did you ever get that top mode switching button to work with custom mappings after all this time?
Nah i ended up mapping both modes to the same controls so if it randomly switches it stays the same controls
Is it worth buying 2 of these for joysticks for first time joysticks or better to save money and buy the regular t16000Ms? Not being used as much for logging but more general gameplay with loaders and maybe getting into logging.
Oh yeah if ur going duals just get these ones, so many more options for growth as you get better ;)
@@FDRLogging Well they are preordered lol
Just ordered one for my set up :) can not wait to get it. Had the logitech farm panel but a few of the buttons stopped working.
Hey FDR!! Slimjim here... been a while since I've played but those sticks look sweet! Maybe I'll get off the tugboat long enough to try them one day....
do these come in a duo package or do i need to buy two new ones
Currently looking for the smoothest config for my T6000's and im interested in what key bindings you use. It looks really smooth. Could you write it out maybe? :)
He has a video of what he uses already
Is that link on your site for this an affiliate link that benefits you? Just curious ifni should cancel my pre-order and re order it through that link
Yes the affiliate links on the FDR website gives back commision bonus rewards to FDR Logging, its not big bucks but every penny helps us grow forsure!
Couldnt find in stock anywhere at all in USA had to order regular 16000s, hopefully doesnt hold me back much
I only miss the slider from the t16000, which you can use to setup 2 different functions with the joystick
Now i just need them to make the WSO hand controllers for the F-15E and then i can be truly happy.
What controls did you use for the previous trustmaster stick
The T16000M set
@@FDRLogging i mean how did you use
WOW i love this new thrustmasater, analog hat YESSS!!!
What grabber do you use?
Do they mount to the TM Flying Clamp?
Has anyone actually found these? They have been back ordered from day 1
It doesn't look like you can lock the twist handle, these are a no go for me then as I have had enough of tuckin wires and rearranging the twists potentiometer every 3 weeks
I purchased the mounts last year great investment!
I wish they had rocker triggers for triggers
Are they pretty solid on the left without feeling awkward?
Im happy, I have giant hands so if they sold it in a size larger id buy those but honestly its been great so far!
How did you get two of them I can only find one
Whats the name of the mount what you have on table?
Although I admit I scrubbed through the video, I can still say it was a great review, so thanks. I am quite interested in this stick, however I'm concerned about being able to comfortably access all of the controls on the head of stick.
I have little T-rex hands, and I can't imagine I'll be able to control the hat joystick without lifting my hand off of the rest. Correct me if I'm wrong, but when you accessed it, it looks like your hand was up off of the rest, albeit you were simply demonstrating and not using it as intended. That said, it appears you'd still have to move your hand up the stick a bit to get to the hat and wheel. Am I wrong here?
Now I think I could tolerate not being able to use the hat joystick, yet I know it will become tiresome. Also, I'm not confident I would be able to bend my thumb under enough to accurately, and comfortably for that matter, access the six buttons at the base of the head.
I actually use HOTAS to play MMOGs whereas I'm constantly panning the camera as well as the other buttons. I'm just not sure the constant need to move my hand, assuming this is a fact, will not end up being prohibitive in terms fatigue. Can you give me an idea of the ergonomics in practice, say, when using it as a flight sim stick? Thanks
The farmsticks are not bulkley, i have larger hands and find them quite small compared to the t16000m style, think it would work fine for you ;)
@@FDRLogging, thanks for getting back to me. )
bit late to the show but you can use Vjoy to map sticks to keybinds
They are Thrustmasters. I'm pretty sure you can write your own scripts ( or download other's ) for it with the TARGET Script Editor ( or even in the GUI I'm sure ) so you can do whatever you want with those trigger buttons or any other buttons/axis. As far as I know that is a trigger to switch between drive and workmode on complex machines.
yeah at the time of the review the target software didn't have these as detectable sticks just yet, so Im hoping when its released I can make the changes ;)
@@FDRLogging I'm sure they will add them, even the old Cougars are recognized by it and those are from the early 2000s.
Nice Video. Would be great if they would do a left and right hand version of these, I think.
Hopefully they fixed the axis sensor issue
I have been looking at going dual joystick setup for logging. My question is how do you setup for dual joysticks. I figure they each have to be in there own usb but how would it recognize which is right and left. I already have your maps mods and controls just haven’t touched any of it or set key binding cause I was waiting till I got joy sticks.
You just plug them in and then YOU assign the controls to left and right, each usb has its own special "ID" number so your PC and game remember which is which
@@FDRLoggingsweet that’s what I needed to know I wasn’t sure. I think I will buy a pair of these then. Cause like you I have ran equipment for years. And don’t do a lot of logging cause I’m so used to equipment joysticks I get aggravated with a Xbox remote when I can’t be as smooth 😂. so I got all your mods equipment and the control lay out just waited on binding anything cause I wanted to get joysticks first. Cause I’m setting key bindings just like the equipment I run.
The link on your website to see which mounts you use is broken my dude
@FDRLogging how did you find the tension/resistance on the farmstick compared to the tm16000? I find the tm16000 very light compared to a real machine.
These are a bit firmer forsure, im curious to see if they loosen up after longer term use
@FDRLogging Great video and thanks for the info🤘
In my thrustmaster (flightstick or smth) joystick has the resistance adjusting knop on bottom,wonder if those of yours have the same?
So will these work on other games aswell
is it plug and play?
do i need yo use 2 of them
Where can I find the mounts u recommend
www.fdrlogging.com/joysticks
Can this farm stick link with a Logitech wheel?
You can use them togeather forsure
Does it work with Logitech wheel?
Yes
my next present to me
This is pretty awesome
look like modded version for t16000m. there are just twin cheap made joystick .My 2 t16000 broke like many people, on z axis.(twist) fs22 often mixing right and left joystick on start. so needed to remap. there are at cheap price but cheap made.
i have switch to twin vkb joystick. its day and night more expensive but there are tought better feeling. I really recommend vkb. you can find 3d print mount for desk too.
Id gotta say this new Farmstick feels way more sturdy and firmer build quality than the T16000m but I never really had any issues with the T16000 over my 4 years of abuse, hoping these go just as long!
The Z axis issue with the stick is often just the sensor coming loose due to poor assembly. You can just put it back into its place and maybe fix it with some hotglue so it wont come loose next time.
Is this on console
when they are coming shops in finland? do u know?
I don't know that information, but you could try contacting them here - support.thrustmaster.com/en/contact-en/
Thanks dude, i appreciate. Im forwarder operator in finland so its more than a work nowadays ;) i love this work
Is this jhoistick compatible with consoles or is it only for PC?
only PC
PC ONLY !!!!!!
still u cant bind the button
Thank you, this is what I was looking for as an update.
Ordered mine in November and I’m still waiting.
Yeah idk what the heck happened must be crazy back orders or problems with production
yeap ill be purchasing them thru the FDR website!
Would this work with construction simulator
I have no doubt they will work on any game ;)
Yes sir ill definitely be buying a set through your website win these get a available. Thanks fdr for all you do for use loggers your definitely appreciated 👍
FDR can you please brin back joystick cams please
cool
Me l💚💛ve!!!!
I want one!!
Are you looking for someone to join your team? :)
we are always accepting new members, learn more at - www.fdrlogging.com/loggingcrew
i want one or 2 :D
ill buy ur old ones lol
WOULD YOU WANT TO SELL THE FARMSTICK
I’m pissed, I just bought thrustmasters and wasn’t aware of these
yea but the thrustmasters regardless are great sticks! you will like em !
@@highball73 oh I do love them, just these would have been better and plus, they don’t have those stupid sliders at the bottom that constantly move my map
@trollwayy5981 yeah I agree I turned my sliders off and my map still moves around hate it anyways is it to late to try and send your sticks back for a refund ?
@@highball73 not entirely sure, but I’m not gonna worry about it. They’re still badass to use ;)
Waiiiit a minute
Pity these are out of stock
You can pre-order them they come out Nov 14th!
Hienot sauvat
no promo code? LAME :P
buy if off my website all the affiliate links gets small amounts of commission that we use to buy even MORE MODELS! hahaha
Is it compatible with playstation?
89030 Von Meadows
is it plug and play?