"Nessun dorma" - Turandot - Franco Corelli

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  • Опубліковано 3 гру 2007
  • Another live record of Turandot aria:
    "Nessun dorma"
    with
    Franco Corelli, tenor

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  • @mariagraziagottardelli551
    @mariagraziagottardelli551 4 роки тому +1

    Mille volte ti ascolto e mai mi stanco, troppo bravo e bello eri, io ti porto nel cuore

  • @Walter1950
    @Walter1950 16 років тому +2

    Thanks be to God or just to nature for giving us this beautiful voice that we all have the great joy of hearing today.

  • @RK831
    @RK831 14 років тому +3

    Yes, this version is the best ever performance of Nessun Dorma. Corelli nailed it here.

  • @EmyajNosdrahcirEniacSovereign
    @EmyajNosdrahcirEniacSovereign 8 років тому +5

    Magnificent

  • @jeh500
    @jeh500 12 років тому +4

    Thrilling voice - amazing tenor. Thanks for posting this.
    Who sings like this anymore? So many greats all gone.
    Corelli was in a league of his own. Great passion that
    comes though every time.

  • @tdeane34
    @tdeane34 15 років тому +2

    I love this version. It's patient and tender. The high b at the end is one of the most beautiful B's I have ever heard.

  • @grig035
    @grig035 15 років тому +3

    "That diminuendo Corelli just did at studio". I was there a few times when Corelli did the same thing on the same note in other contexts on the stage, not in the studio. Also, a somewhat distantly recorded "live" Aida has surfaced from a year later than his studio pianissimo. The studio one is '65 to '67 (sources differ); this newly discovered "live" one is early '68. And in the latter, he does the same diminuendo/pianissimo on the final "vicino al sol". His pianissimo here was quite real.

  • @marokt
    @marokt 16 років тому +2

    Incredible! This is the best Nessun dorma amongst the many brilliant Nessun dormas I've heard with Corelli. And the most inróteresting one. I can't believe how long phrases he sang with one breath! Very interesting the melancholical chracter of the aria. His victory makes This Calaf very considered.

  • @ronaldo190172
    @ronaldo190172 14 років тому +1

    One of my all time favourites. Stunning

  • @Hunorrrr
    @Hunorrrr 13 років тому +3

    The best Nessun Dorma ...

  • @marokt
    @marokt 13 років тому +2

    @TurandotFanatic
    No!
    This is from Scala 1964! This is the very best Nessun dorma of Franco. I think, I've heard him more than 6 live versions, but thi is the best. Very long phrases in one breath, fantastic colouring. If you listen it, can understand, that "vincero" has also havea sad side.

  • @GermanOperaSinger
    @GermanOperaSinger 16 років тому +2

    In the 60s-70s, Pav was untouchable in the bel canto roles by a mile. I agree that he was the best Duke, Tonio (La fille), Nemorino, etc, not to mention a simply riveting Rodolfo in La Boheme. Those live recordings I have of him in those roles are priceless to me.
    HOWEVER, the greatest renditions of verismo roles, Calaf, Manrico, Radames, Andrea Chenier, Don Jose, and many more, were undoubtedly sung by Corelli, he was unsurpassed in those and may never be.

  • @nthdegree1269
    @nthdegree1269 12 років тому +2

    Franco Corelli had that incredible technique, the lowered larynx which allowed such power to come through.

  • @brunobrandy
    @brunobrandy 12 років тому +2

    I have sung opera and studied voice for the better part of the past 50 years.
    My friend and mentor who was a superb spinto tenor who I sang with for years
    sung at the Met during the 60s for three years. He had the privilege to be on
    stage for 24 of Franco's performances and said hands down the greatest
    tenor of the past century. His dynamic voice has never been matched. He
    had his occasional off nights, but generally was superb. He's missed as
    he's been gone now for about 8 years.

  • @v2eqi
    @v2eqi 16 років тому +1

    This is the best on youtube,although the recording quality or is it the transfer quality of the video is not so good.Still my personal favourite is the 1966 Met broadcast with Corelli,brings back so many memories.

  • @lsauke
    @lsauke 13 років тому +2

    @TurandotFanatic - the nilsson/corelli turandot(s) are the the stuff of legend. clearly hearing even this small taste gives one the bridge of a realization. they had to be a thrilling and incomparable duet. i heard her but never him.

  • @estherluciamorelli6105
    @estherluciamorelli6105 9 років тому +3

    por siempre Franco

  • @bosbriguy
    @bosbriguy 14 років тому +2

    i don't care what anyone thinks, He had more talent in one high c than any of you jealous critics will ever have period.

  • @tehen162
    @tehen162 15 років тому +1

    There is a live Aida recording from 1966 (with Price and Zubin Mehta) with the diminuendo on the end of 'vicino al sol" as well.

  • @grig035
    @grig035 12 років тому +2

    @TurandotFanatic Wrong, this one is not 1961. It's the Opening Night Turandot at La Scala, from December 7, 1964, under Gianandrea Gavazzeni. I found another upload of it at /watch?v=MQUrH9QL7Ro , where the clip is given full identification, and when I listened to it, it was absolutely identical, with one exception -- your transfer is better!! So I am deeply grateful yours is still up. It's the best "Nessun dorma" I've yet heard from the best Calaf I've yet heard.

  • @LHaritonov
    @LHaritonov 14 років тому +1

    Thank you! )) Great!

  • @brunobrandy
    @brunobrandy 15 років тому +2

    As a tenor he was the head of the class.
    Case closed.

  • @ivansperanza
    @ivansperanza 13 років тому +1

    Very well said!

  • @frankmaiorana66
    @frankmaiorana66 12 років тому +3

    To give you an idea of how important Franco Corelli and Birgit Nilsson were to the opera world. I know this performance was NOT at the Met. However, the Met staged Turandot for the first time after a lengthy absence in 1961 for they finally had the two principals to do it justice, Birgit Nillson and Franco Corelli.

  • @estherluciamorelli6105
    @estherluciamorelli6105 7 років тому +1

    Siempre en mi corazón amandolo

  • @NYYFanSince1968
    @NYYFanSince1968 15 років тому +1

    In a class with very few others!

  • @SpiritofNature
    @SpiritofNature 11 років тому +1

    I will said something.Franco Corelli was the personal teacher of Andrea Bocelli.It is he first saw his amasing voice.From this period Bocelli leave lawyer career and start to train his vocal.The results as everyone knows are amasing.Franco Corelli not only powerfull singer but also very good teacher.

  • @silbaar
    @silbaar 14 років тому +2

    Guys, it was absolutely perfect... Maybe you are suited to listen other interpretations, as Pavarotti, that fasten the passage you are mentioning... but it's a point of interpretation, the time and notes are perfect... and moreover, with a voice like that, he can even sing in controtempo :)

  • @marokt
    @marokt 15 років тому +2

    I switch off my computer. Who else could you listen after him, after this redition?

  • @kjferguson
    @kjferguson 16 років тому +1

    I've listened all afternoon to them all, even the lady sopranos, found a beautiful voice: Rosa Ponsella. Anyway, this voice is THE VOICE when i think of Italian tenors, it is so convincing i'm thinking of the Godfather the movie. Why were there so many tenors from Italy?

  • @grig035
    @grig035 15 років тому +1

    I just ascertained which one this is from: this is from December 7th, 1964, Opening Night at La Scala, under Gianandrea Gavazzeni. It is also uploaded with full identification of date and colleagues at watch?v=MQUrH9QL7Ro. That transfer has somewhat more treble emphasis in its sonics, but there's also a slight metallic rattle audible there that this transfer does not have. I'd say this transfer sounds slightly cleaner and more natural, if more "bassy", so I'm grateful this is still up.

  • @v2eqi
    @v2eqi 16 років тому +2

    You are all talking about Celeste Aida correct?Corelli did diminuendo the final Bb but he took it at forte more frequently but if you were in audience when he actually diminuendo the note,you would be astounded that such a voice(I don't have to tell you all about it's attributes)could accomplish such a feat.

  • @brunobrandy
    @brunobrandy 14 років тому +2

    acdcfan..."only" a high b?? Obviously
    you never heard Corelli live at the Met.
    His high Cs ringing off the back walls at
    the old Met were legendary. HIs voice
    was magnificent and the carry was off
    the wall literally and figuratively. One of
    my late tenor friends I sung with for
    years sang at the Met for a time and was
    on stage with Corelli for 24 of his performances. He did have occasional
    "off" nights, but this was not one of them.
    Vocally the best tenor of the past century.

  • @elviasan5
    @elviasan5 15 років тому +2

    me too...after this, is there life?

  • @v2eqi
    @v2eqi 16 років тому +2

    True,very true.Bjoerling actually sings a good commercial(Pavarotti type)Nessun Dorma but if you want the real thing THIS is how it's suppose to sound like!

  • @marokt
    @marokt 16 років тому +2

    Dear TurandotFanatic. Do you have any suggestion, where and when was this aria recorded? This is my most beloved Nessum dorma from my most beloved singer.

  • @GermanOperaSinger
    @GermanOperaSinger 16 років тому

    How Domingo has survived the barrage he has given his own voice is beyond me. He must have the 'vocal cords of steel' like people say. It really is a blessing isn't it?

  • @TurandotFanatic
    @TurandotFanatic  16 років тому

    I was almost forgetting to say: Domingo interpretation of the music is totally perfect. I'm talking about the music andamento, forte/piano, declamation, chiaro/scuro. And he sings respecting a rule I've also learned: he doesn't leave a single note "calante", all notes are important for him, as they must be. Who understand music can see that. You should search his masterclass at UA-cam. To finish: 144+ operas, 10+ languages. You are blowing your wind against a house of stone. We just love him.

  • @grig035
    @grig035 15 років тому +2

    Is it 1966? True, there's a remarkably sweet one in Dec. '64 (La Scala), but the long phrasing here (very rare for Corelli to link "e di speranza" to "tremano d'amore" on one breath) suggests '66, as do very open vowels like the "do" in "quando". There's a '66 Turandot w/Nilsson/Freni, and this is more likely from that one. Come on, "TurandotFanatic", take us out of our misery:-). Is this '66? (BTW, I happen to agree: this is the finest "Nessun dorma" I've yet heard from my favorite Calaf.)

  • @Barabanych
    @Barabanych 15 років тому +2

    Bravo Corelli! Pavarotti rests.

  • @marokt
    @marokt 16 років тому +1

    I haven't heard the '66 MET broadcast. We should collect all the Calafs of Corelli! They are so sofisticated different!To poivriere: melancholy is too simple expression, think. Not any other singer shows the ambivalent feeling of Calaf. Does anybodí has an idea how I can have the book about Corelli (M. Boango: A man, a voice?

    • @user9xyz836
      @user9xyz836 5 років тому

      You can find it on eBay.

  • @fierrote
    @fierrote 14 років тому +2

    For me, this is the tenor that performs this song the best. Better, at least for me, than every other tenor. He has the most powerful voice and I think his technique is better than Pavarotti, Placido Domingo, Jose Carreras, Jussi Björling, Mario Lanza, Andrea Bocelli. I think the only tenor that can challenge him on this one is Francisco Araiza

  • @marokt
    @marokt 16 років тому

    He sang his first Calaf in the Scala in 1960 with Nilsson and A. Votto. I don't know if it was recorded. Calaf was was his last appearence in the Scala also with Nilsson. After '65 Corelli didn't sing at la Scala...

  • @TurandotFanatic
    @TurandotFanatic  16 років тому

    The "Nessun dorma" of Domingo, with Karajan (record with Katia Ricciarelli as Turandot) is to me one of the best renditions of this aria (even with the natural B not supported for much time). That record is perfect in all aspects to me.

  • @johngotwalt
    @johngotwalt 15 років тому

    you go

  • @tehen162
    @tehen162 16 років тому

    You can order it from Amazon via internet.

  • @GermanOperaSinger
    @GermanOperaSinger 16 років тому

    There is a little verismo singing involved in Boheme, especially in the 3rd Act, not the 'heavy' verismo like in Aida or Forza, Manon Lescaut, etc. But is it possible he was referring to Rodolfo in Luisa Miller, not Boheme? Did Pavarotti even sing that role...? Sorry, not too familiar with Pavarotti's later rep.

  • @TurandotFanatic
    @TurandotFanatic  16 років тому +1

    There's no high C on "Di quella pira" (Il Trovatore - Verdi, end of 3rd act). There's no high D-bemol at the end of first act (same opera). There's no high B at "E la solita storia" (L'Arlesiana - Cilèa)... But every tenor MUST sing those high notes, because more important then the score (at opera) is the tradition.

  • @TurandotFanatic
    @TurandotFanatic  16 років тому

    macciboma,
    I am not sure but I think this one was recorded at the same year as the other one.
    Kallistono,
    Stokowski stoped the other record I posted. This one he keeps (tries to) the orchestra playing...

  • @erialm
    @erialm 16 років тому +1

    An excellent rendition of this beautiful aria. I suppose Corelli had to sacrifice some dictation there in order to call on the full power of his voice. It really is needed when you go down to the A, the full orchestra comes in and the audience as well.

  • @GermanOperaSinger
    @GermanOperaSinger 16 років тому +1

    Sorry, but Corelli's diminuendos were live as well! Listen to the 1961 Met version of Turandot. Or even better his 'e lucevan le stelle' in the Parma performance of Tosca, 1967, a perfect diminuendo on the first A4. Domingo is like Maria Callas. The voice was great but not amazing, but he is a drama king/queen like Callas. He knows how to 'strut his stuff'. His technique is definitely faulty, Villazon learned from him and look what happened.

  • @v2eqi
    @v2eqi 16 років тому

    The 1966 one is the best on record,of course I wished there are bootleg recordings because Corelli performed many better Nessun Dorma renditions.

  • @tdeane34
    @tdeane34 15 років тому

    I believe this from 1965.

  • @marokt
    @marokt 15 років тому

    Ed ogni notte muore, ed ogni giorno nasce.

  • @TurandotFanatic
    @TurandotFanatic  16 років тому

    I do think you forget that, to be an opera singer is not just having a beautiful voice (like Pav) or a big voice (like Corelli). But must be a good actor/singer, must respect the music characteristics, and mainly must express (with voice, face, and body) the personage feelings. Nobody did that like Domingo.

  • @TurandotFanatic
    @TurandotFanatic  14 років тому

    @Aetion Metropolitan Opera House, 1961.

  • @JasonEA
    @JasonEA 16 років тому

    Excuse me for my naivety...I'm a neophyte...but was the last note of this version of ND a high C, it seemed more like a B to me.
    Thanks in advance for clarifying

  • @plutao_pt
    @plutao_pt 14 років тому

    For me Nessun Dorma is for Corelli and For Pavarotti

  • @Bjoerrelli
    @Bjoerrelli 12 років тому

    @brunobrandy I said that not as a statement of Paul Potts being comparable to an Icon like Franco Corelli in any way, but to tell that taste or lack of taste is very personal.

  • @brunobrandy
    @brunobrandy 12 років тому

    @Bjoerrelli Paul Potts?? OMG!

  • @brunobrandy
    @brunobrandy 14 років тому +2

    @tehen162 Exactly. Others singing this is a total disservice to the aria.

  • @TurandotFanatic
    @TurandotFanatic  16 років тому

    I've seen him live also, as well as Carreras, Caballé and Millo. It seemed to me the inverse: his voice is more sweet and velvet live than recorded.
    There are two kinds of voices: the one that is best live and worst recorded (like Corelli, Domingo, Casolla, Callas, and many others) and others that is the inverse, generally small voices, like Gedda, Florez, Matteuzzi.
    You didn't comment about acting. Isn't it important to you?

  • @johngotwalt
    @johngotwalt 15 років тому

    you've got a good ear

  • @grig035
    @grig035 15 років тому

    Rodolfo isn't the usual spinto verismo role. While he has a few moments of real intensity, it's a matter of degree, and neither the frequency of such moments nor the textures of the orchestration while Rodolfo sings can match the density and intensity of the Puccini Des Grieux, or Dick Johnson, or Calaf, or Cavaradossi, or Luigi, or Canio, or Maurizio, or Marat, or Chenier, or Loris, or any of the other more typical verismo tenor roles that are clearly Corelli/Del Monaco territory.

  • @FranciscoArvizuH
    @FranciscoArvizuH 11 років тому +1

    No, La Scala 7 diciembre 1964.

  • @phantom4087
    @phantom4087 16 років тому +1

    I know that Corelli and Bjorling far surpassed Pavarotti on many occasions.

  • @TurandotFanatic
    @TurandotFanatic  16 років тому

    The score of "Nessun dorma" asks for a natural B ("vin-ceeeeeeeeeee-rooooo") at the syllable "ceeeeee", not a high C. The problem is: many records has a poor quality, and sometimes the pitch goes up, distorting the natural tonality of the music. But the correct top note of "Nessun dorma" aria is a high B (natural).

    • @sugarbist
      @sugarbist 4 роки тому

      I think the score in Nessun Dorma calls for a quarter note B-nATURAL

  • @phantom4087
    @phantom4087 16 років тому

    Pavarotti practically owned verismo. Have you listened to his Rodolfo. It's almost unrivalled.

  • @marokt
    @marokt 16 років тому +2

    ... and if he holds it very very very long, the orchestra will wait him in the buffet.

  • @lauravolpi8
    @lauravolpi8 10 років тому

    IGEN: FOREVER!....Ő A LEGNAGYOBB,....

  • @tehen162
    @tehen162 14 років тому +1

    But this is not a "song", this is an opera aria from an opera supposed to sing by opera singers without amplification.

  • @kyleaustin6061
    @kyleaustin6061 6 років тому

    December 9th, 1964, la Scalla

  • @TurandotFanatic
    @TurandotFanatic  16 років тому

    Sorry, I used the wrong word. Where I said knowledge, I would say wisdom. Wisdom for music, the genius born with that. The genius born playing, singing, just few years of study and is made a genius. Who didn't born with that, probably will study the entire life, and won't reach the point, as well as the genius.

  • @kakahass
    @kakahass 16 років тому

    why are the audience booing him i can hear boos i cant believe it he was pretty good!

  • @GKFC
    @GKFC 14 років тому

    Like I said. Not doubting his talent.
    Opera singers aren't robots, they have the odd bad performance. This feels like one of them.

  • @TurandotFanatic
    @TurandotFanatic  16 років тому

    You should understand that knowledge is within the soul of people, and despite the fact that ignorant people don't know how to express, their intelligence, perception (musical, everything), are independent of their knowledge.
    I do not disregard any comment because they are a different way of seeing the world, outside of my own eyes.

  • @erialm
    @erialm 16 років тому

    The score states, however, that the tenor may hold the B for any amount of time the tenor wants; the orchestra will wait for him.

  • @brunobrandy
    @brunobrandy 14 років тому +1

    Whatever...he was the "Calaf" from most
    accounts of those who knew. I don't know
    what your definition of "ptichy" is as well
    as out of time. Each tenor seems to do
    their own thing on this aria.

  • @TurandotFanatic
    @TurandotFanatic  16 років тому

    Did you consider yourself stupid and ignorant when you were 14, 16?
    The music has no age. Mozart was a genius at 8 years old. Concerning "soul", that is eternal, we started learning music many centuries ago. To be 14 means he is just few breaths behind you and me, but he can had have many musical lifes ahead.
    Listening to music, everybody can feel the difference between the good and the no-good, because the music resides inside the soul.

  • @brunobrandy
    @brunobrandy 14 років тому

    GKFC..."feels" like a bad performance?
    It's a live performance in his role as
    Calaf and at the end of the aria the crowd
    is going wild...what exactly are you trying
    to say? Corelli did have his off nights
    but not many.

  • @Bjoerrelli
    @Bjoerrelli 14 років тому +1

    Noone is the best tenor ever it´s a matter of taste. We all have it and for the role of Calaf I can´t see anyone beating Franco Corelli but that´s an opinion, someone might say Paul Potts! But then it wouldn´t be opera anymore because they would have to use microphones.

  • @robertwbecker
    @robertwbecker 12 років тому

    Yeah, well if you want to know what he was about listen to the audience at the end of the aria!!!!!!!!

  • @TurandotFanatic
    @TurandotFanatic  16 років тому

    Inquisitive,
    Phantom (& all) have their own opinion. As you say many times that freedom is important (so you are free, criticizing many singers), you should understand that when you respond at the way above, you're engaging in the same non-freedom policy of commenting that you abominate. If for any reviews posted here you search by the age and nationality of those who did, to humiliate them, vomiting your truths and "wise" comments, better you change your nick from Inquisitive to Inquisitor.

  • @SeReNaKrOsS92
    @SeReNaKrOsS92 14 років тому

    jorge negrete lo haria bastante bien

  • @jontew
    @jontew 14 років тому

    haha

  • @TurandotFanatic
    @TurandotFanatic  16 років тому

    To be ignorant (that means: without knowledge) is not a fault of anyone, because the ignorants are the people that didn't have the opportunities you had to learn 4 languages, to
    attend the great theaters, to have access to great recordings...
    But becoming arrogant to have all that and think that the knowledge gained is enough to ride roughshod over others is a serious misconduct.

  • @TurandotFanatic
    @TurandotFanatic  16 років тому

    That diminuendo Corelli just did at studio record. I've his live record on that aria, is totally different. And... I love Corelli, but let's be fair to say the truth.
    You always forget to say that Domingo is the best singer/actor at opera. Nobody interprets like him. His voice to me is ok, there's nothing wrong with his timbre, and range. He sang that natural B until 60+, his problem was just the high C, exactly as Caruso, Crimi, Zenatello, and many others. Opera is not a high C.

    • @sugarbist
      @sugarbist 4 роки тому +1

      Not accurate, Domingo's high notes have been an adventure throughout his career. He is a medium sized spinto voice, rarely using mezza voce and never using a diminuendo, squeezing in the passaggio and higher and notorious for transposing entire opera's

  • @TurandotFanatic
    @TurandotFanatic  16 років тому

    I really think that this is a problem of TASTE. You definitively don't like Domingo's voice, but I do, I don't feel his voice as you say. Probably because you don't like, you didn't listen to his records enough to understand. Try to listen to his Radamès, Don José, and his voice at songs. Those are his best.

  • @GKFC
    @GKFC 14 років тому

    Really? Not doubting his talent, but he's quite pitchy in this version... and seems to be out of time in parts.
    Might have been an off night?