Another good record of FR action! Linda is actually immensely powerful for her size - big cylinders and slide valves and you can hang almost anything behind her and she will dig in and get there. Usually very sure footed certainly better than Lyd for example and the driver here is one of our very best and certainly very skilful handling got you there. I would suggest the sanders may have become blocked as its not usually as difficult as that!
I knew she might struggle but not walking pace at times! Its great credit to the crews to keep her going! Its definitely one of my favourite locos now! :)
Generally speaking the "power" of a locomotive or other vehicle is determined by how quickly and "efficiently" it does what its supposed to do, which is transport people and freight. Not by how much it slips and smokes and makes noise and wastes fuel turning heat energy from the engine back into heat energy at the wheels as they slip. And FYI, if it takes "skillful handling" to perform THAT "well", god help any "rookie" who has to do anything with it. I would suggest that if you need the sanders to operate at normal speed on the mainline you've got a whole shitload of "issues" that need to be "addressed".
Your use of quotation marks makes me suspect you're a bit of a keyboard warrior, and nothing anyone says is going to make you happy. Have you ever visited the FR by any chance?
DEEREMEYER1. The "power" of a loco (or anything else for that matter) is defined by the rate at which it can do work. Efficiency has nothing to do with it. Efficiency is derived from the difference between input and output energy. In this video wet rails are causing a lack of adhesion which is making Linda rather inefficient. The driver is showing skill in transfering as much power as he can to the rails. From your comments it seems your lack of experience in driving a steam locomotive in difficult conditions probably rivals your lack of understanding of basic physics. I can agree with you on one point though, given the degree of difficulty in getting the train to it's destination it does seem that the loco was mismatched with the train for some reason.
A great demonstration of driving under extreme conditions. In the late sixties, I was on a train hauled by Blanche under similar conditions, though the line terminated at Tanybwlch in those days. The train got stuck, and diesel loco 'Upnor Castle' had to be dispatched to help out.
DEEREMEYER1 we are in no way a heritage railway, we are a commercial tourist railway that provide services between Blaenau ffestiniog and Caernarfon. We just happen to have lots of heritage items
Whatever the reasons for the slipping, and rain coming off leaves can make tracks horrendously slippy, full marks to the driver for some brilliant engine handling.
Lovely to see Linda doing what she was built for in conditions she has known all her life . She and her Charles and blanche are extremely powerful for their size and cudos to the driver as anyone who knows North Wales will tell you that the rails were probably like grease and the right curves don't help . he did brilliantly to control the slipping .
Its funny this because I was on I don't know if you know 'the chippy train' on the 2nd with Linda, the same journey and it was fine we were just a bit late starting in the first place. It was similar conditions too. Thanks for shearing this buddy :)
Superb little engine is Linda. I had a similar sort of run, which I filmed and stuck on here just over a week ago. We almost missed our connection at Blaenau, but unlike your run, we kept going. Just.....
And nobody cleared them? And were they "blocked" or empty? Or improperly adjusted? TOO MUCH sand is just as bad as NONE. Actually its WORSE. What "powers" those sanders? Steam? ROFLMAO.
Gosh, some of those embankments are a bit scary to look down from, aren't they. You couldn't possibly climb down on that side. Enterprising use of tea mugs to spread sand, I thought.
Especially given how shitty that track is. That's a "rail disaster" waiting to happen running a POS locomotive and train on a POS "railway" like that "at speed" on top of an "embankment" like that. But at least the "members" of the "charity" get to go be pretend "railroaders".
If you're firing them I think you're probably in a little different location and are hearing different sounds "live" than the camera that took this video "heard" and there's also a little thing called "reproduction" involved.
The Nas are somewhat larger which gives rise to a lower tone in the exhaust note. We also tend to run the Na with a heavy load at lower speeds on steep gradients. That too affects what we hear.
Intresting to see linda struggle like that she is one of the F.R's most powerful engines and to see her struggle like that has me baffled. Maybe she needs her sanders checked regually for blockage so it fosent happen again
I had a trip behind Linda a few years ago , in the dry with a heavy loaded train and she managed wonderfully .How powerful is she compared to Fairlie's Patent ? Thank you .
That took some driving.
Amazed to see telegraph poles. Remember those?! 😃
Another good record of FR action! Linda is actually immensely powerful for her size - big cylinders and slide valves and you can hang almost anything behind her and she will dig in and get there. Usually very sure footed certainly better than Lyd for example and the driver here is one of our very best and certainly very skilful handling got you there. I would suggest the sanders may have become blocked as its not usually as difficult as that!
I knew she might struggle but not walking pace at times! Its great credit to the crews to keep her going! Its definitely one of my favourite locos now! :)
Linda appears a powerful small loco.
Generally speaking the "power" of a locomotive or other vehicle is determined by how quickly and "efficiently" it does what its supposed to do, which is transport people and freight. Not by how much it slips and smokes and makes noise and wastes fuel turning heat energy from the engine back into heat energy at the wheels as they slip. And FYI, if it takes "skillful handling" to perform THAT "well", god help any "rookie" who has to do anything with it. I would suggest that if you need the sanders to operate at normal speed on the mainline you've got a whole shitload of "issues" that need to be "addressed".
Your use of quotation marks makes me suspect you're a bit of a keyboard warrior, and nothing anyone says is going to make you happy. Have you ever visited the FR by any chance?
DEEREMEYER1. The "power" of a loco (or anything else for that matter) is defined by the rate at which it can do work. Efficiency has nothing to do with it. Efficiency is derived from the difference between input and output energy.
In this video wet rails are causing a lack of adhesion which is making Linda rather inefficient. The driver is showing skill in transfering as much power as he can to the rails. From your comments it seems your lack of experience in driving a steam locomotive in difficult conditions probably rivals your lack of understanding of basic physics.
I can agree with you on one point though, given the degree of difficulty in getting the train to it's destination it does seem that the loco was mismatched with the train for some reason.
Nice video, unusual to see Linda struggling for so much of the Journey!
A great demonstration of driving under extreme conditions. In the late sixties, I was on a train hauled by Blanche under similar conditions, though the line terminated at Tanybwlch in those days. The train got stuck, and diesel loco 'Upnor Castle' had to be dispatched to help out.
Well that explains why she was 15mins late into TyB, I saw her on the webcam and have a screen shot of her arriving. Great video.
A "heritage railway" on a "timetable"? ROFLMAO. Tell us another one.
DEEREMEYER1 we are in no way a heritage railway, we are a commercial tourist railway that provide services between Blaenau ffestiniog and Caernarfon. We just happen to have lots of heritage items
Whatever the reasons for the slipping, and rain coming off leaves can make tracks horrendously slippy, full marks to the driver for some brilliant engine handling.
Some very good handling of the slip there. A delicate touch from the driver.
Lovely to see Linda doing what she was built for in conditions she has known all her life . She and her Charles and blanche are extremely powerful for their size and cudos to the driver as anyone who knows North Wales will tell you that the rails were probably like grease and the right curves don't help . he did brilliantly to control the slipping .
Masterful handling of a locomotive in very poor weather conditions.
Rain is "very poor weather conditions"? Maybe for an electric HO set.
Great Video of some difficult driving.
Well done Linda .. keep it up
Its funny this because I was on I don't know if you know 'the chippy train' on the 2nd with Linda, the same journey and it was fine we were just a bit late starting in the first place. It was similar conditions too. Thanks for shearing this buddy :)
Superb little engine is Linda. I had a similar sort of run, which I filmed and stuck on here just over a week ago. We almost missed our connection at Blaenau, but unlike your run, we kept going. Just.....
That "superb" locomotive is a slipping POS.
Fantastic video, love it.
Is Linda equipped with sanders?
Joshua Gadsby Sadly it doesn't hence why she struggled most of the way.
@@BritishLocoFilms Linda does have sanders. The 2 sandboxes are in front of the saddle tank.
Aren't the sanders working? Or did someone forget to fill the sand box?
Sand pipes got blocked during the first run
And nobody cleared them? And were they "blocked" or empty? Or improperly adjusted? TOO MUCH sand is just as bad as NONE. Actually its WORSE. What "powers" those sanders? Steam? ROFLMAO.
What's the gradient the the steepest parts?
The gradient is a pretty uniform 1 in 82 but I think it's a little less on some of the curves just below Tan-y-bwlch.
Gosh, some of those embankments are a bit scary to look down from, aren't they. You couldn't possibly climb down on that side.
Enterprising use of tea mugs to spread sand, I thought.
When passing Rhiw Goch signal box, the embankment there on passing it 62ft! Amazing really
Especially given how shitty that track is. That's a "rail disaster" waiting to happen running a POS locomotive and train on a POS "railway" like that "at speed" on top of an "embankment" like that. But at least the "members" of the "charity" get to go be pretend "railroaders".
The locomotive sounds very different from the na class locomotives I fire
If you're firing them I think you're probably in a little different location and are hearing different sounds "live" than the camera that took this video "heard" and there's also a little thing called "reproduction" involved.
The Nas are somewhat larger which gives rise to a lower tone in the exhaust note. We also tend to run the Na with a heavy load at lower speeds on steep gradients. That too affects what we hear.
Intresting to see linda struggle like that she is one of the F.R's most powerful engines and to see her struggle like that has me baffled. Maybe she needs her sanders checked regually for blockage so it fosent happen again
Daniel annett certainly isn’t the most powerful engine. I don’t think she never had sand but I can’t confirm it.
I had a trip behind Linda a few years ago , in the dry with a heavy loaded train and she managed wonderfully .How powerful is she compared to Fairlie's Patent ? Thank you .
Struggles? Don't think so
Steve Hiatt So it's flying up to Blaenau-Ffestiniog then? 🙄
@@BritishLocoFilms its all uphill.....