BYD ATTO 3 v's Skoda Enyaq - The honeymoon is over.
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- Опубліковано 2 чер 2024
- BYD made quite an impact on the UK car market in 2023 with three new model launches. And it all started with this, the ATTO 3, a small/medium-sized crossover that seems to now be the de facto family car genre. However, whilst the next two cars, the Dolphin hatchback and Seal saloon, traded on offering a lot of car for less than the established brands, the ATTO 3 was priced in line with its peers, and so must therefore be judged against them. And what better family EV to put it up against than Skoda's revised Enyaq. Is this the BYD that is out of its depth, or will it be plain sailing for the newcomer? Bryan gives us a feature length twin-test to find out. Make yourself comfortable, because this is a big one.....
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0:00 - Introduction
01:53 - Titles
02:01 - Meet the cars
04:00 - Styling
19:04 - Practicality
27:04 - Interiors
48:52 - Usability
51:34 - Performance & Handling
1:07:00 - Pricing
1:10:00 - Summary
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The Enyaq should be compared to the Byd Seal U or Song L base on their design. The Atto 3 is in the Hyundai kona EV or MG4 /ZS range.. type. Price varies depending on your deals.
The European pricing is very different to that here in Oz. Whilst we do not yet have the Enyaq here, we do have the Kia Niro EV, and that has a local price of around AU$65 000. The 2WD BZ4X is $68 000 before O/R costs and similar for the RWD Model Y. I would expect the Enyaq to be around the same money if they have any chance of selling it here. However, the Atto 3 here is just $51 000 in the LR 60 kWh trim, and at that price it is hugely popular. It is not exactly the same spec and we get budget Atlas Batman tyres and only single phase 7.2 kW AC charging, but it is still an exceptional value package.
If it was only 2/3 the price of the Enyaq in Europe, I suspect your conclusion would be different. Cheers from Oz.
Hyundai and Kia's pricing in Australia is uncompetitive especially compared to US pricing. In Australia it is Chinese EVs and then Tesla occupying the nexy rung, European EVs will be a niche product, I suspect that Enyaq will be priced around a dual motor Model Y and will have its work cut out for it.
I agree, with the Australian pricing, BYD kicks VAG butt. Very few EVs come close to the BYD offerings regarding specs and equipment in Australia, which is why it's only surpassed by Tesla in sales for the Australian Market.
its a UK procing thing.. in Hungary te att3 base modell is 25000 euri cheaper then the base model 85 not 60 Enyaq
The Enyak is reported to Start! at $80,000 when it is released in Australia, BYD Atto $51,000, drive away. Different market, I just bought a Seal Dynamic$51,000, a bargain too.
Specs between Atto and suspected specs of Enyaq in Oz are also very different. Enyaq to have 85kwh battery, larger motor, etc meaning longer range and better performance for starters. My son has an Atto is is good value for the price, but also has less storage compared to the Enyaq. We'll be trading in an SUV and do regular road trips, so the better specced Eynaq is better for our needs. My son just buzzes around town, and Atto suits his needs.
In Australia BYD has no tariffs to overcome and our Seal is spectacular from an ex Model 3 owner's perspective. The atto 3 is just too much 'Chinese youth' for us.....and not enough range either. EU imports can't compete in price - Tesla is now old and too late (lumbered with a management problem) so SAIC and BYD are set to own the Australasian market.
BYD 39000 Pounds in England but in Australia the top of the line Atto3 is $53000 or 27500 Pounds.
So many reviewers seem to make the same comment about BYD regen. They say the regen is very weak, but the regen is controlled with the brake pedal. The standard or high selector switch is just an off-accelerator starting point. Touch the brake pedal and you can see the regen on the driver's info screen increases the more you push the pedal even up to 35kW. You are still not using the friction brakes until the pedal is pushed much further. I like the system because as you slow for an intersection your foot is lightly on the brake and if someone does something in front of you then your foot is already on the brake.
If the reviewer didn't understand this and I am not sure he did it is a disturbing oversight.
and it triggers the brake lights unlike coasting to a stop under just regenbraking.
Brake lights show when regen braking- on Kia models anyway @@grrfy
Yes same with BYD@@Joe-ud2hb
You are entirely missing the point. He is referring to "one-pedal driving" which means you don't use the brake pedal for a lot of the braking
On mainland Europe the Skoda Enyaq is a top seller. It's a good, practical EV.
I've got the BYD ATTO 3 DESIGN picked it up March 24, it's not a bad car & ok to drive, range isn't bad but i think any electric car will only benefit with home chargers, I've no off street parking & councils are way behind with allowing gutter cable channels installed outside. I noticed you didn't mention the BYD Camera which is a decent addition to this car but what you're not told or i wasn't that the Inbuilt Dash Cam is disabled in the UK which is ridiculous until it passes regulations 🤷🏻 its a safety feature you numpties get it passed as all other countries use it. Also the front sensors have been altered with an update apparently which i noticed from the hire car i had .The hire car front & rear sensors worked great & the front cameras came on to show you the distance, but with the update, the sensors are almost none existent & you are almost touching the object in front & this is poor. I mentioned both to the Dealership & they said they've always been like this: Bull💩 I've been Driving over 40yrs & front sensors are there to notify you. The dealership & BYD arnt being honest notifying you about the UK spec so ask.
So they will tell you the sensor's only work when in reverse & the camera instantly comes on🤔 it does, but the front cameras can come on intermittently which i thinks a flaw, unsure about over the air updates as they can alter whatever they want😮
Like comparing a top range ix2 withe a bottom range ix3. They sit in different brackets.
But the Enyaq isn’t basic though. That’s my point. The BYD isn’t exactly a bargain. So you can have a bigger car with almost the same specification for the same money. That’s the point.
Test drove the Atto3 at everything electric last month. Beautiful drive, not sure about the guitar/harp strings!
Think the Škoda is a little large for me!
enyaq. definitely.
One thing you didn't mention is running costs. And have you tried insuring a BYD in the UK or tried getting one repaired?!
Interesting mentioning ISOfix in the front seats as a positive, BYD had to recall cars in Australia to deactivate them as Australian safety regulators consider their use unsafe.
Sins when is the charging 150kW on a Atto 3?
Realy need to get that here where stuck at 88kW but 11kW home charging
they don't! 88 max everywhere
This is not a great reviewer, just one of many errors including wrong screen size and even getting the name wrong on the car he's reviewing, multiple times calling the Atto 3 the Excellence model, it is the Design. They don't make an Excellence trim level.
Interesting differences in price from the UK and Australia. Your prices of the BYD in the UK would be about $75000 in Australia, which would put it in the range above a Tesla Model Y. The big difference that might explain it is that our BYD can not charge as fast as yours. Ours can only charge at 7Kw on A/C and 88Kw on D/C. Out Atto 3 is about $52000 on the road, so much cheaper than Tesla and from understanding, also the upcoming Skoda Enyaq which is set to be priced above $70000
I thought the air vent were mini DVDs!
I wondered if there were great finance deals for the BYD. There is a0% PCP, provided you can come up with 20% deposit, Nearly 8k!!!!
I'm not sure if it's the waistline, high bonnet, or the colour but the enyaq looks a bit minivan-y to me. They're almost exactly the same height though 🤔
Also I'd be buying used and I hate when manufacturers have huge options lists as you never know what you’re getting second hand. Even new if I wanted a 360 degree camera I'd have to be sure I bought an enyaq 60 edition, not just a 60, then specced the Max package not the Advance. The BYD's 2 tiers with no options is so much easier.
That is a fair point, and I too don't like how you are forecd into buying things you don't need jsut to get one option you really want. Good point well made.
Nice prices, the Enyac wins! But prisewise not in Europe. In the Netherlands the price difference is more than € 7000. The BYD is cheaper than 45k, so is subsidiced with 3k. Total € 10,000 difference.
I think BYD missed a trick with ALL their small cars by not having RWD, and it is that which would stop me from considerinag any of their samller models.
I must applaud the company for offering actual COLOURS on their models. The fact that VAG hardly offer anything other than variations of grey really, REALLY turns me off their offerings.
Could try harder.
Have you seen the Enyaq's colour chart? Reds, blues, yellows, etc. Even a gold in there too!
I've seen introductions to the new Enyaq 85 and very disappointed they haven't increased the range with any significance for something that is a popular EV
Volvo xc40 is more expensive but how would you compare it against these two? Does it beat Enyaq if you leave the pricing out?
Glad to see your taking a flask with you.are you getting sick of paying for those expensive coffees when your sat ther charging?..
Always have my flask with me. Whether in an ICE car or EV.
soon i will have a 85 premium... 🙂
BYD won the world championship 2023...in depreciation.
The back of the BYD looks similar to the Mercedes EQA.
Enyaq over the Atto3
This Enyaq is close, that Atto is far away, ok Dougal.
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Ha ha ha
The interior of the BYD is unbearable. The only thing going for the BYD is the Blade battery. The Skoda is one of the best EVs there is, with the Edition add on, it has all the kit you could want. And the interior is grown up.
Very subjective. Many of us actually prefer the BYD interior to the traditional bland and boring ones. So yeah I guess let your wallet do the talking. The Atto 3 is selling very well across the world...
@markuc I imagine those with lefty syndrome prefer the byd interior
@@markuc It may be subjective, but the Enyaq sells very well on mainland Europe. BYD doesn't. So "Many of us actually prefer the BYD interior..."? No, that isn't true. Except if you work for BYD.
@@stefan2796 this isn't 1990 and Europe isn't the whole world.
@@markuc Master of the obvious, right?
Thank you for your review.. I don't think the Skoda is the best comparison as it's quite a bit bigger but it can't be easy getting exactly the cars you want. The BYD is too expensive. The Scenic Is closer in length and the small battery shows how expensive the BYD is.
I will stick with LFP batteries and ideally they would be manufactured by either BYD or CATL the two market leaders.
I was pretty much the first person to test drive one in the UK, it was also the shortest test drive I've ever had. The seats on the Atto 3 are the most dreadful things I've ever sat it, had back pain for days afterwards.
Seventy odd years later Tibet is still occupied and not by the Czechs.
Without a BYD large main dealer base in the country this electric car is dead in the water.
There is a huge dealer base in the UK now, which will expand by around 64 dealers alone in 2024. They are a big deal across the world and will be in the UK too.
@@AutoEV wow that’s amazing lets see how it pans out.
Saw a transporter full of dolphins with the rear logo still present. Urgh
Styling is your opinion and is subjective another person would love it and not like the Enyaq so I'm not sure you should cover styling in too much detail. I can see the dragon and it's eyes you didn't look at the lights close enough did you, next time look closer at the lights and you may pickup what I'm talking about. I personally love the Atto 3 in red, the red dragon. You mean the ski hatch as every other reviewer I've seen call it in the Enyaq. The Atto 3 however is smaller and better at maneuverability, I still disagree with you about interior design and love it vs the boring of every other car on the road plus it's purely your opinion and luckily everyone has their own so you may not like it but your neighbour may love the Atto 3.
No fan whatsoever of these damned "Crossovers".
Bring back good old estates. Talking of which; there are rumours that the next MG5 will be an estate version of the 4 (hardly any surprise there) but also that BYD may make an estate version of the Seal. THAT would tick all my boxes.
You'll want to be watching in a couple of weeks time then when I review a new electric estate car.....
Tease@@AutoEV
Why aren’t the BYD cars selling in Europe (especially Germany). The bonkers barby-doll interior design seems like crass over the top seems to be a big factor. The cultural assumptions about style are out of whack, I believe. They are not elegant cars focusing on sophistication and attention to detail. It’s not just the name, it’s a cultural thing as well. They need a decoy car to start the sales pitch. Perhaps the Seal will do that.
Good grief he does blab on…. Can’t watch to the end….
Are you new to the AutoEV channel? Brian and his team specialise in in-depth auto reviews. They are not for those with the attention span of a goldfish.
The red strings could be ‘drawn’ from a boxing ring, sporty, gymish?.
That voice in the BYD would drive me mad.
The range on both is disappointing, in 2024 I would have expected at the very minimum 300 miles of real world range in winter.
I can see it costs under £14k in China so maybe a budget design aimed at younger drivers ?
I like the Vehicle to load, as a caravan user it would be handy to power the van from the car rather than using on-site expensive power, always a rip off.
The heat pump is a must on any modern EV its not an option, puzzling the range is lower than the Skoda which doesn’t have a heat pump ?
Being in my 70’s I well remember the old Skoda rust buckets, even though this one is probably built in China I still wouldn’t have one, not parking that badge on my drive !
£37695 for a fourteen grand car in China, BYD are having a laugh, their dealerships, sorry stealerships are really expecting to sell these fourteen grand cars for double the price plus ten grand on top hahahaha.
Gosh, which rock are you hiding under? My 105000 mile, 6.5 year old Skoda Superb has not seen a spanner except for scheduled services. As a 2 litre diesel it averages over 50 mpg, even fully laden on the motorway. As for badge snobbery, it fits perfectly on my drive where my Audi A6 Avant used to sit. Go back to your Morris Marina, and let the world get on.
@@David-qs5ii yes I know, even thought of looking in at a Skoda garage but just couldn’t force myself to go in !. Bit like some folk and Brussels Sprouts !!!
@@stevenbarrett7648 Love sprouts too!
The car costs 14k after price drops due to government subsidies in domestic market to increase Chinese carmakers market share. You don't get Chinese subsidies living in the other part of the world. Do you pay taxes to the Chinese government living in EU? Of course not, so don't expect a subsidized pricing for yourself.
Talk about ignorance smfh
Byd anyday , 6 year warrenty will have added vale of my car if i wish to sell it in 3 years time , without it like the skoda , it will drop 90% in vale and noboy will buy my ev from me without battery warrenty
Skoda Enyaq has 8 years battery warranty, same as byd.
Have to say that Skoda has 160000km limitation, byd 180000km.
Question is, where will these brands be in 8 years, will they still exist so you can claim your warranty? I feel a lot will change in the ev world the upcoming years.
My goodness, the bot needs to work on its spelling and grammar.
Skoda Enyaq interior is Boring and comes off as cheap. BYD for me