If I live to 94, I hope I am half as sharp as Fali Nariman! India has such stalwarts in every field. We should be thankful and grateful that people like him and Karan Thapar exist. What command over their thoughts and language!
Thanks to Covid vaccination developed within a year by the Modi government. It is always a pleasure to receive a criticism from a former Supreme Court judge knowing fully well his life was extended thanks to domestic vaccine!
@@chander3338yes thanks, Government did very unexpected things , extra ordinary, but I think it's the scientists and Bharat biotech they deserve the praise. They could have sold the vaccines For higher profits to the world but they called government to literally give it as almost a charity. The CEO of Bharat biotech could have become one of the Richest person ever lived. Government provided machinary of logistics and distribution not development. Scientists went through all the possible conditions and combinations of mRNA that can destabilize the SARS COVID viruses in a cell. All were private scientists. Bharat biotech is the unsung, forgotten worth appreciation company for development . Government had almost no job in lock down , they provided logistics and distribution. Thank you. When we can praise the Government when it does small goodness then why can't we criticise it in cases of undisciplined behaviours and unfulfilled promises.
@@chander3338 wow!!! I thought the vaccine was invented by the brilliant scientists and Modi's only contribution was pasting his photographs on the vaccination certificate.
Ranjan Gogoi is not eminent judge but an agent of BJP which we came to know after his retirement. When many eminent judges talk about Basic Structure of the Constitution, Ex CJI Ranjan Gogoi is against the Basic Structure of the Constitution. Very alarming for Indian Constitution and democracy.
Mr.Karan, as Indians, we are very fortunate that there is a journalist like you still breaking the chains of lies and division brought by the forces of extremism. Hope you expose all the faults and problems in our country! ❤
If they had spine then they wouldn't have been appointed. Look at justice chandrachud he is giving judgements/comments or hearings only on those cases which more theoretical or doesn't go drastically against the government. Most of important cases are not even heard in court.
All the brilliant people of this country feels terribly bad about whatever wrong is happening in our country but Modi just doesn't understand it. Very sad and unfortunate.
an absolute privilege to watch this exchange and to know that the insight of this intelligent and courageous Jurist will be retained for generations to come
The most notable case in this context is that of Tlthe former CJI Justice Ranganath Mishra, who was appointed chairman of the National Human Rights Commission after his retirement in 1992. He became a member of the Rajya Sabha in 1998 as a Congress member; he had earlier headed the commission of inquiry into the riots in the capital following Indira Gandhi’s assassination. The commission exonerated the Congress party in the 1984 carnage against Sikhs.
In the contemporary scene it is Mr Ranjan Gogoi who claimed his reward of a Rajya Sabha seat for judgements favourable to this government, climaxing with the Ayodhya case wherein he contradicted himself. And now trots out similar opinions, as in the Delhi government case & on the structure of the Constitution.
Mr Karan is doing a yeomen service by interviewing stalwarts like Shri Fali Nariman. It takes a huge lot of preparation for Mr Karan and his team to prepare for such interviews. Heartfelt appreciation to Shri Nariman. At 94 years, he still has strong memory and clarity of thought and flexibility towards balanced interpretation of current events. God bless him.
Nice to see people like him talk about the constitution and make it clear for people to understand what to expect from the govt.Thankyou Mr Nariman and Mr. Karan Thapar
Autocracy versus democracy ..its only when we loose freedom we will begin to value what we lost .being under the control of one leader for every thing starting from schooling to marriage to life in general is unimaginable. corruption is economic in nature while autocracy will take away our basic nature of human being to be free ..we need to appreciate democracy we cant leave our future generation without freedom to grow and prosper.unfortunate
Ours is a wounded democracy. Except for once in a while periodic on-cue voting, participation in the everyday functioning of democracy is all but excluded from most of the people, most of the time.
Karanji is giving light in this time darkness for Indian democracy through his conduct of interview with eminent Advocate like this. Long live Karan Thapar. Every educated person know that in federal Structure of India, how one can say one Nation one Election. In fact, Modi and RSS have different motive like Presidential Form of Govt.
Are you unable to see how much of time and tax payers money is being wasted in conducting elections throughout the year when the time of the elected representatives and the money can be put to better use for the benefit of the people. What is the disadvantage of holding both state and national elections. The advantages of holding both state and national elections at the same time far outweighs holding them separately. Think about it.
Brilliant beyond belief !! I have not seen anyone as strong as him at this age 🔥 people lack backbone & ability to speak their minds even at the age of 30 yrs of age when it is needed but this brave gentleman & possibly the wisest mind has proved that age anything is possible with determination & age is just a number !
Soli Sorabjee & Fali Nariman were neutral only when congress was in power but when bjp came to power Sorabjee caved in to the lure of the office of Solicitor general and this time it was Fali whose son got appointed as judge to the Supreme Court…One just can’t recall Fali arguing against this present dispensation in any case although there were many instances particularly of abuse of human rights and freedom of speech wherein Fali could have taken on this government…..
Soli Sorabjee & Fali Nariman were neutral only when congress was in power but when bjp came to power Sorabjee caved in to the lure of the office of Solicitor general and this time it was Fali whose son got appointed as judge to the Supreme Court…One just can’t recall Fali arguing against this present dispensation in any case although there were many instances particularly of abuse of human rights and freedom of speech wherein Fali could have taken on this government…..
Possibly, the road to autocracy , globally, is getting paved by accelerating inequality & concentration of wealth in the hands of few because all the lofty terms of constitution (viz equality,fraternity, justice) do not apply to the underlying economy of the country
What a brilliant man. What incisive thinking, and yet, so simple in his bearing and demeanour. And look at how much he enjoys speaking about the Constitution, his primary love! One feels proud and privileged to be an Indian, when one seen people like Mr. Nariman.
"We" has a completely different meaning for the present rulers. We had taught about Gandhiji, Nehru and many prominent leaders of yesteryear respectfully as grandfathers to our kids. But can the most "so called" powerful Indian PM today be taught to kids as such. Highly questionable!!! Here lies the real meaning for "We".
'We' is indeed different for Modi when compared to Gandhi and Nehru. Gandhi's last fast was for putting pressure to release 55 Crore rupees funds to Pakistan. Nehru didn't adhere to the Nehru-Liaquat Pact and see that the population exchange happens to the full like Dr Ambedkar strongly advocated for. Crores of Hindus have suffered unspeakable atrocities in Pakistan, and Modi brought about CAA to address that. "We" is different now indeed.
The original Constitution had illustrations of Lord Rama, Krishna and Buddha. These illustrations were by famed artist Shri Nandalal Bose. Subsequently someone tampered with the Constitution and deliberately reprinted the Constitution without these illustrations. Had the illustrations retained nobody would have questioned the rebuilding of Ram Temple in Ayodhya.
There is nothing wrong with the spirit, soul or conscience of the Indian Constituition or with how we have been interpreting it over the past 75 years ! This Constituition has faced all contingencies & has stood the test of time ! We need not pay so much attention to an autocratic, fascist & fanatic regime [with an inferiority complex] that is hell-bent on changing everything based on the belief that no one that came before them had ever had any wisdom and that they are the only torch-bearers to morality and correctness! Despite all the drastic, immoral & problematic situations that have arisen due to them during the past 10 years! For their psychopathic mentality, its "my way or the highway" all along & the public must comply & have no right to object !
Mr. Nariman has hit the nail on the head. Congress and BJP are equally bad. The only thing that can save the nation is to not give absolute power to either of them and elect a coalition government.
27:25 ; India will break if the bjp resorts to authoritarian rule either by amending this constitution or by replacing it because india is actually a union of nations and not states ; the credit for creating india as one nation shld squarely go to the british otherwise this portion of earth would have been dotted with several princely states and kingdoms …
It was an eye opening interview. I wish all people of our country would listen and try to understand what is the right path before it's too late. Especially our Judges and most importantly all the ministers, prime minister and our president. We are Indians we should be proud by showing others how we live in a democratic country loving everyone towards prosperity of our nation. Only possible if we look after every person living in this nation equally. I wish all are educated and understand what is the best for them and others. Hats off to both of you.
Thanks...karan sir...for clearly mentioning out the atrocities being done to muslims in India. And my honour for Nariman sir have highly increased because of his acceptance of the ongoing undeclared emergency. I wish you both a good health and a long life.
The most notable case in this context is that of Tlthe former CJI Justice Ranganath Mishra, who was appointed chairman of the National Human Rights Commission after his retirement in 1992. He became a member of the Rajya Sabha in 1998 as a Congress member; he had earlier headed the commission of inquiry into the riots in the capital following Indira Gandhi’s assassination. The commission exonerated the Congress party in the 1984 carnage against Sikhs.
Karan Thapar is a excellent journalist. Articulate and wise. Thorough professional in every topic and better than a learned advocate. It’s a pleasure watching him interview such highly acclaimed personalities. Proud of you sir. I salute you
Excellent interview as usual dear Karan! Justice Nairman answered many questions I had in my mind! If only all the parties and the SC did their part😭😭😭
Thank you Karan Thapar to bring this valuable knowledge in front of Indian citizens, for those who don't know that we have our constitution. YOU MUST KNOW YOUR CONSTITUTION.
Mr Nariman is right...Our Constitution has kept India together...With no history of fighting for our freedom, BJP-NDA/Modi-Shah have no moral right to tamper with it...Down with BJP-NDA/Modi-Shah...Congress/INDIA will come to power and save our Constitution...Jai Rahul Gandhi, Jai Congress/INDIA, Jai India/Bharat.
Where was the DOCTRINE OF BASIC STRUCTURE and supremacy of SUPREME COURT during the EMERGENCY period...?? DID the judges & courts be afraid of their life & cowards to Indira Gandhi ...?? If one assumes CONSTITUTION is SUPREME.... and it's only the PARLIAMENT that can amend constitution & make new laws, then is not it ridiculous that the PARLIAMENT is NOT SUPREME...???
Wonder what Mr. Nariman's views are on the role of the united opposition - the INDIA Alliance, in denouncing the various glaring errors, fraud and discrepancies in EVMs during past elections. Why are they completely silent on the issue? Shouldn't they whip up the support of the people on the issue?
How many here know that when Congress had moved a resolution for absolute freedom (poorna swaraj) - Gandhi, the Original* himself had dismissed the resolution saying Unity with Muslims never a possibility? (*'the original' suffix because so many his namesake parasites are around) And I quote him: "I hope that those of you who have voted for the previous resolution will think fifty times before taking up this resolution and voting for it. Let Hindus and Mussulmans have absolute, indissoluble unity. Who is here who can say today with confidence, “Yes, Hindu-Muslim unity has become an indissoluble factor of Indian nationalism?” Who is here who can tell me that the Parsis and the Christians about whom you heard this afternoon-who will tell me that those very people will not rise against any such idea?" Dr Ambedkar was right in saying that he didn't consider Gandhi a Mahatma.
Shameful one sided definition of democracy coerced to suit a narrative of the British definition of it. Mind that British don’t have a written constitution and they suit it to their needs. No one country in the world has a uniform definition on democracy and the paper by Mr Khaitan is fit for the bins. Democracy has evolved considerably from its conception hundreds of years and it resonates with time. Unfortunately, the constitution of India didn’t keep with time, its Hindu majority people’s aspirations and the requirements of the minorities. Judiciary has failed as did its political class till 2014 and Modi has changed it. There is no pride or necessity in having perfect democracy to please some western governments definition of democracy that even they don’t follow. The ramblings of Mr Khaitan also applies to the democracies like USA as well, does this mean democracy in USA is in peril. What’s wrong with Hindutva as hindutva allows pluralism. Why is Hidutva being shown as some negative force. India as is Bharat is the region between Himalayas and Indu maha sagar, so called Hindu. So it is the only place in the world for the people who practice religions of Hindu. There is no other place for Hindus to go if they face persecution in foreign lands. Mr Khaitan misinforms on CAA and mixing with NRC. I do not understand why Mr KT and Mr TK think they are the sole bearers of Indian democracy? The pulse of the nation is totally against the views of the people in the video. I hope a resounding victory of Modi govt in 2024 elections would silence these rabble rousers.
Basic structure of the Constitution can only be formulated by Parliament of India and never by the collegium. Another interesting gem is that neither the Parliament of India is soverign nor the executive is sovereign. Is India that is Bharat is sovereign?? Well the 'closet view' is that the so-called Collegium alone is sovereign and the lord of constitution! Where is the 'Collegium' provided for in the Constitution? Well the Collegium as the Lord and the final arbitrar of Constitution can provide and insert for anything in the Constitution as it feels convenient. As a citizen i feel there are serious maladies to be sorted out.
They are obsessed with judicial supremacy over the legislative and the executive i.e., Sovereignty which is not good for the country. How judiciary can override the parliament which includes the President? Judiciary already enjoys highest independence being appointed by the President and not removable by him without recommendation of the parliament. What else they want?
Hats off to Nariman for his honest opinion at a trying time for the nation and its citizenry where attempts are being made to amend the constitution for the benefit of a few
English people are intelligent. They helped us have the executiv body, the parliament, the judiciary none of which is Sovereign. They never had a written constitution but bound us to a constitution which they got prepared for us. Their parliament is sovereign means their parliament is indirectly ruling us through their constitution by their proxies. This's horrible!
What is this? Karan is expressing his views and waiting for this old fart to approve.... not expected from a guy who runs shows like hard-talk.... complete disappointment and waste of 49 minutes
Karan sir pl talk about why manipur govt are allowed to combine un authorised meitei militants with police commando together. In Manipur militants are freely given arms to attack assam rifles ,army ,kuki village etc..etc..this is very very unlawful.......sir pl discussss
We all take no small pride in the fact that ours is the biggest (by the same token unwieldy, erratic even overbearing at times) democracy in the world. But when nobody was watching, vigilance thrown to the wind, was slack to non-existent under the radar our economy was transformed into a COMMAND ECONOMY, ie at the command of a single person whose understanding of matters economic is less than vestigial. Opposition effete and systematically decimated our nation also brought under one-party rule in all but name, only marginally indistinguishable from China or Russia.
Anti -minority view did not exist during emergency! Who were forcibly castrated? Muslims and Dalits were explicitly targeted by the sterilisation programme for compulsory vasectomy and tubectomy. Thapar has always been in a tearing hurry to give their ecosystem a free pass...even if it involves lying...
Who judges the judges? Should there be a constitutional provision for that too? Judges must have their opinion too, but shouldn't it be curbed when it goes against the public good? Talking about supremacy, I like to think that not executive branch, not judiciary, not even parliament, people are supreme. The public good must trump everything else.
Dear Mr.Karan, This was a fantastic and honest take on the state of affairs in India now. It's not easy to correct without first being convinced that we ahouls should change. One key takeaway about the Nehru years and Vajpayee years couldn't have been a better example. Dear Mr.Fali Nariman was outstanding in his candor and frankness in letting people know how we are looking like. Thank you
Very excellent interview. It is in the interest of the common public. Please go ahead to protect, preseve and safeguard the rights and duties of the parliament and the executive in our country
After a lot of going round and round about structure of constituency, incapacitated judges and all, the searching question came down finally to 'Modi against Muslim' ! Modi has profited and continues to profit electorally from his reputation as an anti-Muslim strongman, and Karan will be just helping him more here.. Being paid to do it?
34::4; if u look at the caste composition of the high and supreme court judges the predominance of the bania-bamman castes still continues and all these judges are the products of the casteist and communal sub-system of this nation, for these judges judicial integrity means opposing all mass welfare and secular measures initiated by the congress government particularly Indira gandhis and supporting all authoritarian and caste-communal-divisive policies of the present minority oppressing castes bjp government ….Prior to the collegium system of appointing of judges the congress govt had even supported appointment of judges who were known for being anti-establishment and many went on to give judgements against the congress party and they never experienced any vindictive action from the congress unlike the present government which shamelessly targets and acts vindictively judges who aren’t not spineless …
I fully agree with Fali Nariman and agree with his one specific view. If the Constitution were to function rightly without pro Govt Judges then JUDGES themselves have to ensure that nothing is done against the Constitution by the Govt, and they must act fearlessly and independently. Judges must also stand up for their own rights which is not practiced at present.
Respected Falli Nariman is greatest asset to the judicial system of this country. At this ripe old age, he has the wisest memory quoting several decades back Court decisions. Let us all pray for his guidance on legal matters to last for many many years. Astonishingly, he has authored a Bible on Indian constitution at the age of 94 years. Big salute to this superb legal luminary.
Karan, you are a biased person. The way you frame your questions is misleading. Sometimes, those being interviewed may fall a prey for your manipulations. But this man is different.
So disappointing to hear an educated journalist say such drastic things as veiled emergency and such. To have Modi removed at any cost ,will peddle wild exxagerations. Shame. We are common Indians very aware of all that is happening and you take us to be fools
Mr. Nariman, I appeal to you to take up the cause of a common man. I, as a citizen, am not entertained by the bureaucracy to redress my grievance. The bureaucracy doesn't reply or take action on my grievance. There is no "Citizen Charter" even after 75 years of independence. Great people like you and Karan are silent all these years. You sit on judgement on issues that don't affect me directly. I agree it may affect me indirectly and in the long run.
We may see Emergency as bad but the intention was to protect the chair of Prime Minister Indira Gandhi. It was a shame less act. She was supported by left leaning parties and she sent to jail who whispered opposition. Sanjay Gandhi stamp was for every body to see . It mired the people specially in north. The administrators behave d like Maharajas . In south this may not be so bad . Election results indicate that. But the aim of Indira Gandhi was not to bring about radical change in our polity.Emergency had to be given a goby when it became unbearable. But the aim here is different. Use constitution to bring the polity nearer to heart’s desire.
Wish Mr. F Nariman was more forthright in critising the functioning of the present government. Mody is scared of learned legal people like Nariman. The parsi community should come forward now when this country is in turmoil. Hope they are true patriots.
Hey karan Thapar.. When I saw your interview with Modi jee when he finished with drinking water.. I was very upset with your way of asking the question.. but for last many years - I realised that you are a genuine person and you were doing great.. and you were always great. - Actually your way is the right way to ask the questions. Heartiest respect for my side to you..
Aware that Fali ji will ultimately zero in on Tolerance. With due respect to him, he is no doubt the towering constitutional expert. Said that he should answer the following conundrum: Suppose, Karan Ji's neighbour plays his Dolby or cube stereo in full volume daily early morning say till he leaves for the Wire office - would Fali help him file a case without fees accepting that the very term has a saturation point or advise him that his tolerance level should be limitless and that he has only the right to shut his ears?
Was it an emergency when Mr Nariman appeared on behalf of Union Carbide in the Bhopal Gas leak case killing thousands of people 🤔 where was his moral conscience 😢
Even my grandpa's & grandma's voices as well as mental health ( due to age + age related diseases ) were no where near as Mr Nariman sir's voice & mental health is . He definitely must be a fitness freak . I hope so . Apart from that . What ever is about to happen will happen & there are sufficient number of people to oppose them . As Somebody had said " what ever happens it happens for a reason & for good " Situation in this country is like that . What ever has happened till now has happened for a reason & it happened for good . Atleast people who have some amount of thinking power left are starting to or already have woken up from their deep sleep of tolerance of this decade old rule at centre . Even if opposition may loose but they will now stand up & fight back again !
Mr. Nariman is far distant from the present day truth about Muslims. Karan caught the nerve of a decent man who is though aware of his community's running away from Persia doesn't want to accept the truth about the nature of Muslims.
Parliament represent people of India. They have adopted a constitution to themselves. They have the capacity to change, modify, renew the document. You mean to say, after adoption of the constitution that has become eternal and crystallized and people are out, there after sovereignty lies with the document, not with people of India. Is n't it an idea of attempt to usurp people's power and their wisdom.
Opposition should be worthy not Hodge Podge like the present opposition which will do more harm than good. 14 news anchors are blacklisted which is anathema to democracy.
If I live to 94, I hope I am half as sharp as Fali Nariman! India has such stalwarts in every field. We should be thankful and grateful that people like him and Karan Thapar exist. What command over their thoughts and language!
Mr Gogoi has sold his soul he is not worth it 😊
His mind is very sharp,God bless him! We need the wisdom of such wonderful people. Justice Krishna Iyer was one.
True, Justice Krishna Iyer was a legend!
He was real legend and a fantastic humanitarian...❤❤❤🎉
This guy is 94 years old and still this sharp. 😮
Hats off to you sir. 🫡
Allahumma Barik.
Thanks to Covid vaccination developed within a year by the Modi government. It is always a pleasure to receive a criticism from a former Supreme Court judge knowing fully well his life was extended thanks to domestic vaccine!
@@chander3338yes thanks, Government did very unexpected things , extra ordinary, but I think it's the scientists and Bharat biotech they deserve the praise. They could have sold the vaccines For higher profits to the world but they called government to literally give it as almost a charity. The CEO of Bharat biotech could have become one of the Richest person ever lived. Government provided machinary of logistics and distribution not development. Scientists went through all the possible conditions and combinations of mRNA that can destabilize the SARS COVID viruses in a cell. All were private scientists. Bharat biotech is the unsung, forgotten worth appreciation company for development . Government had almost no job in lock down , they provided logistics and distribution. Thank you. When we can praise the Government when it does small goodness then why can't we criticise it in cases of undisciplined behaviours and unfulfilled promises.
@@chander3338 wow!!! I thought the vaccine was invented by the brilliant scientists and Modi's only contribution was pasting his photographs on the vaccination certificate.
@@chander3338 ohhh...He was in Singapore during pandemic.
Wow he's 94! He's so coherent...mind body fully in shape and functioning wonderfully. My best wishes for his century ❤
Thank you Karanji
May God preserve him
We need a group of Karan Thapar...pls sir you give your skills in your junior...
Ranjan Gogoi is not eminent judge but an agent of BJP which we came to know after his retirement. When many eminent judges talk about Basic Structure of the Constitution, Ex CJI Ranjan Gogoi is against the Basic Structure of the Constitution. Very alarming for Indian Constitution and democracy.
Any judgement in favour of a particular Hindus you cry foul on judiciary and anything in favour of other religions then judiciary is impartial
Chara ghotala convicted Laluji out of Jail on health ground though roaming the country as active opposition leader and doing politics
An enlightening discussion from which one learns a lot . Thanks to Mr Fali Nariman and Mr Karan
Thapar .
Mr.Karan, as Indians, we are very fortunate that there is a journalist like you still breaking the chains of lies and division brought by the forces of extremism. Hope you expose all the faults and problems in our country! ❤
Today we have emergency! We have to stand up to this autocratic govt.
If they had spine then they wouldn't have been appointed. Look at justice chandrachud he is giving judgements/comments or hearings only on those cases which more theoretical or doesn't go drastically against the government. Most of important cases are not even heard in court.
All the brilliant people of this country feels terribly bad about whatever wrong is happening in our country but Modi just doesn't understand it. Very sad and unfortunate.
49:23 I do agree with you ...still I would word it differently...he Does NOT WANT TO understand it !
an absolute privilege to watch this exchange and to know that the insight of this intelligent and courageous Jurist will be retained for generations to come
Totally agree, and very well put.🙏
Hi Karan, please correct me if I am wrong but the word used by you " Occasional Nobel Laureate " should be " Occasionally a Nobel laureate also".
Judges are spineless, they support the government for want of a Raja Sabha post post retirement.
The most notable case in this context is that of Tlthe former CJI Justice Ranganath Mishra, who was appointed chairman of the National Human Rights Commission after his retirement in 1992. He became a member of the Rajya Sabha in 1998 as a Congress member; he had earlier headed the commission of inquiry into the riots in the capital following Indira Gandhi’s assassination. The commission exonerated the Congress party in the 1984 carnage against Sikhs.
In the contemporary scene it is Mr Ranjan Gogoi who claimed his reward of a Rajya Sabha seat for judgements favourable to this government, climaxing with the Ayodhya case wherein he contradicted himself. And now trots out similar opinions, as in the Delhi government case & on the structure of the Constitution.
Yes, ...
Supreme court judges sold over to government
They are members from, the cross section of current society.
Congratulations to Mr. Karan Thapar also for conducting an equally good session with such an imminent legal illuminary 👍👌
Mr Karan is doing a yeomen service by interviewing stalwarts like Shri Fali Nariman. It takes a huge lot of preparation for Mr Karan and his team to prepare for such interviews. Heartfelt appreciation to Shri Nariman. At 94 years, he still has strong memory and clarity of thought and flexibility towards balanced interpretation of current events. God bless him.
Nice to see people like him talk about the constitution and make it clear for people to understand what to expect from the govt.Thankyou Mr Nariman and Mr. Karan Thapar
Autocracy versus democracy ..its only when we loose freedom we will begin to value what we lost .being under the control of one leader for every thing starting from schooling to marriage to life in general is unimaginable. corruption is economic in nature while autocracy will take away our basic nature of human being to be free ..we need to appreciate democracy we cant leave our future generation without freedom to grow and prosper.unfortunate
Very well expressed!
Wonderful and educative interview and wish a healthy and long life for Mr. Nariman ji.
Ours is a wounded democracy. Except for once in a while periodic on-cue voting, participation in the everyday functioning of democracy is all but excluded from most of the people, most of the time.
Full marks to Mr. Karan for framing questions in such a way that outstanding answers are extracted
Karanji is giving light in this time darkness for Indian democracy through his conduct of interview with eminent Advocate like this. Long live Karan Thapar. Every educated person know that in federal Structure of India, how one can say one Nation one Election. In fact, Modi and RSS have different motive like Presidential Form of Govt.
Are you unable to see how much of time and tax payers money is being wasted in conducting elections throughout the year when the time of the elected representatives and the money can be put to better use for the benefit of the people. What is the disadvantage of holding both state and national elections. The advantages of holding both state and national elections at the same time far outweighs holding them separately. Think about it.
Brilliant beyond belief !!
I have not seen anyone as strong as him at this age 🔥 people lack backbone & ability to speak their minds even at the age of 30 yrs of age when it is needed but this brave gentleman & possibly the wisest mind has proved that age anything is possible with determination & age is just a number !
ram jethmalani
Soli Sorabjee & Fali Nariman were neutral only when congress was in power but when bjp came to power Sorabjee caved in to the lure of the office of Solicitor general and this time it was Fali whose son got appointed as judge to the Supreme Court…One just can’t recall Fali arguing against this present dispensation in any case although there were many instances particularly of abuse of human rights and freedom of speech wherein Fali could have taken on this government…..
Soli Sorabjee & Fali Nariman were neutral only when congress was in power but when bjp came to power Sorabjee caved in to the lure of the office of Solicitor general and this time it was Fali whose son got appointed as judge to the Supreme Court…One just can’t recall Fali arguing against this present dispensation in any case although there were many instances particularly of abuse of human rights and freedom of speech wherein Fali could have taken on this government…..
Possibly, the road to autocracy , globally, is getting paved by accelerating inequality & concentration of wealth in the hands of few because all the lofty terms of constitution (viz equality,fraternity, justice) do not apply to the underlying economy of the country
Very good interview. Thanks
Really astonishing interview, you are a brave journalist. 🙏
Fali is outstanding in far too many respects that most do not know. ❤
What a brilliant man. What incisive thinking, and yet, so simple in his bearing and demeanour. And look at how much he enjoys speaking about the Constitution, his primary love! One feels proud and privileged to be an Indian, when one seen people like Mr. Nariman.
"We" has a completely different meaning for the present rulers. We had taught about Gandhiji, Nehru and many prominent leaders of yesteryear respectfully as grandfathers to our kids. But can the most "so called" powerful Indian PM today be taught to kids as such. Highly questionable!!! Here lies the real meaning for "We".
'We' is indeed different for Modi when compared to Gandhi and Nehru. Gandhi's last fast was for putting pressure to release 55 Crore rupees funds to Pakistan. Nehru didn't adhere to the Nehru-Liaquat Pact and see that the population exchange happens to the full like Dr Ambedkar strongly advocated for. Crores of Hindus have suffered unspeakable atrocities in Pakistan, and Modi brought about CAA to address that.
"We" is different now indeed.
The original Constitution had illustrations of Lord Rama, Krishna and Buddha. These illustrations were by famed artist Shri Nandalal Bose. Subsequently someone tampered with the Constitution and deliberately reprinted the Constitution without these illustrations. Had the illustrations retained nobody would have questioned the rebuilding of Ram Temple in Ayodhya.
Fali Nariman, the most brilliant mind and humane too. India is blessed to have him as citizen.
Brilliant!! Great to listen to Nariman!! Thank you Karan!
There is nothing wrong with the spirit, soul or conscience of the Indian Constituition or with how we have been interpreting it over the past 75 years ! This Constituition has faced all contingencies & has stood the test of time ! We need not pay so much attention to an autocratic, fascist & fanatic regime [with an inferiority complex] that is hell-bent on changing everything based on the belief that no one that came before them had ever had any wisdom and that they are the only torch-bearers to morality and correctness! Despite all the drastic, immoral & problematic situations that have arisen due to them during the past 10 years! For their psychopathic mentality, its "my way or the highway" all along & the public must comply & have no right to object !
Thanks to you, Sir... Living Legend conversations at the Era of Godi Media.... Journalism - "Jindda Haa..." Keep it up ❤❤❤
These interviews are desperately needed in Hindi and other local languages
Great soul of Indian legal fraternity.....RIP🙏❤🌸🌸
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Mr. Nariman has hit the nail on the head. Congress and BJP are equally bad. The only thing that can save the nation is to not give absolute power to either of them and elect a coalition government.
27:25 ; India will break if the bjp resorts to authoritarian rule either by amending this constitution or by replacing it because india is actually a union of nations and not states ; the credit for creating india as one nation shld squarely go to the british otherwise this portion of earth would have been dotted with several princely states and kingdoms …
It was an eye opening interview. I wish all people of our country would listen and try to understand what is the right path before it's too late. Especially our Judges and most importantly all the ministers, prime minister and our president. We are Indians we should be proud by showing others how we live in a democratic country loving everyone towards prosperity of our nation. Only possible if we look after every person living in this nation equally. I wish all are educated and understand what is the best for them and others. Hats off to both of you.
Thanks...karan sir...for clearly mentioning out the atrocities being done to muslims in India. And my honour for Nariman sir have highly increased because of his acceptance of the ongoing undeclared emergency. I wish you both a good health and a long life.
MOMIN VICTIM CARD OUT...😂😂😂
Never play victim card.
Huge respect for KARAN THAPAR SIR ❤🇮🇳
It seems you and Fali both want the opposition only to run the govt. So funny.
A good class for all Indian citizens and politicians
Absolutely correct ! Well said !!
The book should be translated into all state languages and widely distributed.
and made very inexpensive
Correct.
The most notable case in this context is that of Tlthe former CJI Justice Ranganath Mishra, who was appointed chairman of the National Human Rights Commission after his retirement in 1992. He became a member of the Rajya Sabha in 1998 as a Congress member; he had earlier headed the commission of inquiry into the riots in the capital following Indira Gandhi’s assassination. The commission exonerated the Congress party in the 1984 carnage against Sikhs.
Karan Thapar is a excellent journalist. Articulate and wise. Thorough professional in every topic and better than a learned advocate. It’s a pleasure watching him interview such highly acclaimed personalities. Proud of you sir. I salute you
Excellent interview as usual dear Karan! Justice Nairman answered many questions I had in my mind! If only all the parties and the SC did their part😭😭😭
Justice Nariman ,
??? ... He is Senior Nariman Senior Advocate of SC ... Not justice RF Nariman (Who is his son ..)🙄🙄
BJP mukat Bharat in 2024.
Very good,enjoyed .
Wire=mirror image of Godi media..
It was a fine conversation...Pure class...
2 crying babies....😂
Absolutely delightful interview. Mr Nariman- a gentleman indeed!
Thank you Karan Thapar to bring this valuable knowledge in front of Indian citizens, for those who don't know that we have our constitution. YOU MUST KNOW YOUR CONSTITUTION.
Barbarism of an individual cannot be equated with BARBAARISM OF A SOCIETY AND CIVILIZATION
Mr Nariman is right...Our Constitution has kept India together...With no history of fighting for our freedom, BJP-NDA/Modi-Shah have no moral right to tamper with it...Down with BJP-NDA/Modi-Shah...Congress/INDIA will come to power and save our Constitution...Jai Rahul Gandhi, Jai Congress/INDIA, Jai India/Bharat.
Where was the DOCTRINE OF BASIC STRUCTURE and supremacy of SUPREME COURT during the EMERGENCY period...?? DID the judges & courts be afraid of their life & cowards to Indira Gandhi ...??
If one assumes CONSTITUTION is SUPREME.... and it's only the PARLIAMENT that can amend constitution & make new laws, then is not it ridiculous that the PARLIAMENT is NOT SUPREME...???
Thought provoking and learning
😂😂🤣🤣Justice CJI AN Ray was embarrassed of himself 🤣🤣🤣
Excellent questions beautifully put forward, well answered to most, diplomatically diverted few.
Wonder what Mr. Nariman's views are on the role of the united opposition - the INDIA Alliance, in denouncing the various glaring errors, fraud and discrepancies in EVMs during past elections. Why are they completely silent on the issue? Shouldn't they whip up the support of the people on the issue?
How many here know that when Congress had moved a resolution for absolute freedom (poorna swaraj) - Gandhi, the Original* himself had dismissed the resolution saying Unity with Muslims never a possibility?
(*'the original' suffix because so many his namesake parasites are around)
And I quote him:
"I hope that those of you who have voted for the
previous resolution will think fifty times before taking up this
resolution and voting for it.
Let Hindus and Mussulmans have
absolute, indissoluble unity.
Who is here who can say today with
confidence, “Yes, Hindu-Muslim unity has become an indissoluble
factor of Indian nationalism?”
Who is here who can tell me that the
Parsis and the Christians about whom you heard this afternoon-who will tell me
that those very people will not rise against any such idea?"
Dr Ambedkar was right in saying that he didn't consider Gandhi a Mahatma.
Shameful one sided definition of democracy coerced to suit a narrative of the British definition of it. Mind that British don’t have a written constitution and they suit it to their needs. No one country in the world has a uniform definition on democracy and the paper by Mr Khaitan is fit for the bins.
Democracy has evolved considerably from its conception hundreds of years and it resonates with time. Unfortunately, the constitution of India didn’t keep with time, its Hindu majority people’s aspirations and the requirements of the minorities. Judiciary has failed as did its political class till 2014 and Modi has changed it. There is no pride or necessity in having perfect democracy to please some western governments definition of democracy that even they don’t follow.
The ramblings of Mr Khaitan also applies to the democracies like USA as well, does this mean democracy in USA is in peril.
What’s wrong with Hindutva as hindutva allows pluralism. Why is Hidutva being shown as some negative force. India as is Bharat is the region between Himalayas and Indu maha sagar, so called Hindu. So it is the only place in the world for the people who practice religions of Hindu. There is no other place for Hindus to go if they face persecution in foreign lands.
Mr Khaitan misinforms on CAA and mixing with NRC.
I do not understand why Mr KT and Mr TK think they are the sole bearers of Indian democracy? The pulse of the nation is totally against the views of the people in the video. I hope a resounding victory of Modi govt in 2024 elections would silence these rabble rousers.
Basic structure of the Constitution can only be formulated by Parliament of India and never by the collegium. Another interesting gem is that neither the Parliament of India is soverign nor the executive is sovereign. Is India that is Bharat is sovereign?? Well the 'closet view' is that the so-called Collegium alone is sovereign and the lord of constitution! Where is the 'Collegium' provided for in the Constitution? Well the Collegium as the Lord and the final arbitrar of Constitution can provide and insert for anything in the Constitution as it feels convenient. As a citizen i feel there are serious maladies to be sorted out.
They are obsessed with judicial supremacy over the legislative and the executive i.e., Sovereignty which is not good for the country. How judiciary can override the parliament which includes the President? Judiciary already enjoys highest independence being appointed by the President and not removable by him without recommendation of the parliament. What else they want?
Hats off to Nariman for his honest opinion at a trying time for the nation and its citizenry where attempts are being made to amend the constitution for the benefit of a few
English people are intelligent. They helped us have the executiv body, the parliament, the judiciary none of which is Sovereign. They never had a written constitution but bound us to a constitution which they got prepared for us. Their parliament is sovereign means their parliament is indirectly ruling us through their constitution by their proxies. This's horrible!
What is this? Karan is expressing his views and waiting for this old fart to approve.... not expected from a guy who runs shows like hard-talk.... complete disappointment and waste of 49 minutes
Karan sir pl talk about why manipur govt are allowed to combine un authorised meitei militants with police commando together. In Manipur militants are freely given arms to attack assam rifles ,army ,kuki village etc..etc..this is very very unlawful.......sir pl discussss
We all take no small pride in the fact that ours is the biggest (by the same token unwieldy, erratic even overbearing at times) democracy in the world. But when nobody was watching, vigilance thrown to the wind, was slack to non-existent under the radar our economy was transformed into a COMMAND ECONOMY, ie at the command of a single person whose understanding of matters economic is less than vestigial. Opposition effete and systematically decimated our nation also brought under one-party rule in all but name, only marginally indistinguishable from China or Russia.
Anti -minority view did not exist during emergency! Who were forcibly castrated?
Muslims and Dalits were explicitly targeted by the sterilisation programme for compulsory vasectomy and tubectomy.
Thapar has always been in a tearing hurry to give their ecosystem a free pass...even if it involves lying...
what was our sc judge doing during emergency and indira feroz ghandhy rule ; did anybody question our agreement with pakistan after winning
Who judges the judges? Should there be a constitutional provision for that too? Judges must have their opinion too, but shouldn't it be curbed when it goes against the public good? Talking about supremacy, I like to think that not executive branch, not judiciary, not even parliament, people are supreme. The public good must trump everything else.
A pure pleasure to watch ❤❤
Our nation's name 'INDIA' is in the Bible. Go through Old Testament-Book of Esther 1:1. This name is not given by the British government!
Dear Mr.Karan,
This was a fantastic and honest take on the state of affairs in India now.
It's not easy to correct without first being convinced that we ahouls should change.
One key takeaway about the Nehru years and Vajpayee years couldn't have been a better example.
Dear Mr.Fali Nariman was outstanding in his candor and frankness in letting people know how we are looking like.
Thank you
Very excellent interview. It is in the interest of the common public. Please go ahead to protect, preseve and safeguard the rights and duties of the parliament and the executive in our country
After a lot of going round and round about structure of constituency, incapacitated judges and all, the searching question came down finally to 'Modi against Muslim' !
Modi has profited and continues to profit electorally from his reputation as an anti-Muslim strongman, and Karan will be just helping him more here..
Being paid to do it?
Very cleverly switching resource persons to hide his actual motive of biased reporting. However, he cannot hoodwink the majority of the viewers.
TIME ,The Almighty Eternal makes silken todays strongest tomorrow
34::4; if u look at the caste composition of the high and supreme court judges the predominance of the bania-bamman castes still continues and all these judges are the products of the casteist and communal sub-system of this nation, for these judges judicial integrity means opposing all mass welfare and secular measures initiated by the congress government particularly Indira gandhis and supporting all authoritarian and caste-communal-divisive policies of the present minority oppressing castes bjp government ….Prior to the collegium system of appointing of judges the congress govt had even supported appointment of judges who were known for being anti-establishment and many went on to give judgements against the congress party and they never experienced any vindictive action from the congress unlike the present government which shamelessly targets and acts vindictively judges who aren’t not spineless …
I fully agree with Fali Nariman and agree with his one specific view. If the Constitution were to function rightly without pro Govt Judges then JUDGES themselves have to ensure that nothing is done against the Constitution by the Govt, and they must act fearlessly and independently. Judges must also stand up for their own rights which is not practiced at present.
Very enlightening! Hope leaders of the ruling dispensation listen this and introspect.
Respected Falli Nariman is greatest asset to the judicial system of this country. At this ripe old age, he has the wisest memory quoting several decades back Court decisions. Let us all pray for his guidance on legal matters to last for many many years. Astonishingly, he has authored a Bible on Indian constitution at the age of 94 years. Big salute to this superb legal luminary.
Karan, you are a biased person. The way you frame your questions is misleading. Sometimes, those being interviewed may fall a prey for your manipulations. But this man is different.
So disappointing to hear an educated journalist say such drastic things as veiled emergency and such. To have Modi removed at any cost ,will peddle wild exxagerations. Shame. We are common Indians very aware of all that is happening and you take us to be fools
Mr. Nariman, I appeal to you to take up the cause of a common man. I, as a citizen, am not entertained by the bureaucracy to redress my grievance. The bureaucracy doesn't reply or take action on my grievance. There is no "Citizen Charter" even after 75 years of independence. Great people like you and Karan are silent all these years. You sit on judgement on issues that don't affect me directly. I agree it may affect me indirectly and in the long run.
We may see Emergency as bad but the intention was to protect the chair of Prime Minister Indira Gandhi. It was a shame less act. She was supported by left leaning parties and she sent to jail who whispered opposition. Sanjay Gandhi stamp was for every body to see . It mired the people specially in north. The administrators behave d like Maharajas . In south this may not be so bad . Election results indicate that. But the aim of Indira Gandhi was not to bring about radical change in our polity.Emergency had to be given a goby when it became unbearable. But the aim here is different. Use constitution to bring the polity nearer to heart’s desire.
Wish Mr. F Nariman was more forthright in critising the functioning of the present government. Mody is scared of learned legal people like Nariman. The parsi community should come forward now when this country is in turmoil. Hope they are true patriots.
Hey karan Thapar..
When I saw your interview with Modi jee when he finished with drinking water.. I was very upset with your way of asking the question.. but for last many years - I realised that you are a genuine person and you were doing great.. and you were always great.
- Actually your way is the right way to ask the questions.
Heartiest respect for my side to you..
Aware that Fali ji will ultimately zero in on Tolerance.
With due respect to him, he is no doubt the towering constitutional expert. Said that he should answer the following conundrum:
Suppose, Karan Ji's neighbour plays his Dolby or cube stereo in full volume daily early morning say till he leaves for the Wire office - would Fali help him file a case without fees accepting that the very term has a saturation point or advise him that his tolerance level should be limitless and that he has only the right to shut his ears?
Was it an emergency when Mr Nariman appeared on behalf of Union Carbide in the Bhopal Gas leak case killing thousands of people 🤔 where was his moral conscience 😢
Even my grandpa's & grandma's voices as well as mental health ( due to age + age related diseases ) were no where near as Mr Nariman sir's voice & mental health is .
He definitely must be a fitness freak . I hope so .
Apart from that . What ever is about to happen will happen & there are sufficient number of people to oppose them .
As Somebody had said " what ever happens it happens for a reason & for good "
Situation in this country is like that .
What ever has happened till now has happened for a reason & it happened for good .
Atleast people who have some amount of thinking power left are starting to or already have woken up from their deep sleep of tolerance of this decade old rule at centre .
Even if opposition may loose but they will now stand up & fight back again !
Unbelievable presence of mind and memory
Excellent discussion where all topics connected with constitution were discussed threadbare
Mr. Nariman is far distant from the present day truth about Muslims. Karan caught the nerve of a decent man who is though aware of his community's running away from Persia doesn't want to accept the truth about the nature of Muslims.
Karan Thapar is trying very hard to put words into Fali Nariman's mouth. All his questions are leading questions.
Brilliant...we need these kind of interviews one which speaks the facts instead of blindly critical of Modi which we usually see in Wire.
Parliament represent people of India. They have adopted a constitution to themselves. They have the capacity to change, modify, renew the document. You mean to say, after adoption of the constitution that has become eternal and crystallized and people are out, there after sovereignty lies with the document, not with people of India. Is n't it an idea of attempt to usurp people's power and their wisdom.
Opposition should be worthy not Hodge Podge like the present opposition which will do more harm than good. 14 news anchors are blacklisted which is anathema to democracy.