Doom Tech Analysis: The Best-Looking 60fps Console Shooter?
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- It's time for another Digital Foundry tech deep dive, as John goes in-depth on the phenomenal Doom from id Software. Featured here is a full lowdown on the game's visual features, plus PC/PS4/Xbox One graphics comparisons.
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hardware is only as powerful as the software behind it. This is the kind of thing I love to see. The process of a console improving over its life cycle is so interesting. This is beautiful true optimization, an engine of bliss, both on PC and console. Congrats ID, put a lot of developers complaining to shame.
The engine being voxel based instead of using polygons like every other engine out there has alot to do with it.
+Manuel Ruiz Got any links regarding the voxel comment? I see there was talk of it ages ago, but haven't seen any concrete info about it after Carmack left.
Hardware may only be as powerful as the software behind it, but the development team is the heart of utilizing that technology. In many cases, the developer is to blame, not the hardware. As proven by ID and Naughty Dog this year.
+Felicity Smoak completely agree!
+Mathias Røyrvik +Manuel Ruiz it is not voxel based. they once made a voxel demo, but scrapped the concept or are holding it back for id tech 7
That's what it's all about, a stable, fast, easy on hardware and impeccable looking engine. A marvelous thing indeed.
+Necris Couldn't agree more!
+Kind Old Raven Seriously, this looks better than any other current engine!
It is so damn impressive what they can do with the limited hardware of consoles.
MrSlashStudios Yeah I was surprised to hear that some friends of mine ran the beta on their well... lower end PCs without as much as a hiccup on 1080p 60 with darn good settings. And you can't call this game ugly so... win/win here ;D
+Necris
It appears to be tougher on PC hardware than consoles since it struggles to get anywhere near a constant 60 FPS on substantially faster PC hardware at similar console settings.
Kade Storm Not from the benchmarks I've seen. But it still is a port so perhaps in some cases... AMD finally got working drivers by the way, so I'm guessing you were looking at PCs with AMD hardware ;) They ran 40-50% (!) worse than they should have until like today. With crazy stuff like 390x's not getting 100+fps but more like 50 on average.
"the legendary john carmack" is that his passport name?
+mschulze0 he earned it, that should be on his tombstone.
+mschulze0 it should be.
YES
+Big Blue Frontend Oh I also think id Tech 5 was interesting but ultimately limited by consoles of last generation. But I think there's more going on with id Tech 6 than just slapping some lighting in there. After all, a lot of the guys that worked on it were responsible for CryEngine going all the way back to its first iteration.
+Monte Raid If you like any first person shooter, that means you like Carmack:)
this is how game should be released optimized and polished.. other game devs are so lazy providing us with unfinished game :'-( ubisoft
+Sam Pt
cough fallout 4 cough.
+Sam Pt this is what can you do with OpenGL and not DX
Augustin Tiberiu
Good point sure beats what we have seen with DX12 so far.
Especially the UWP junk that comes out of the windows store.
Rabbits invasion
2021 is dying
And IGN gives it 7,1...
+Eduard Marcinek Bethesda didn't pay IGN any money so of course their game reviewed lower.
+Eduard Marcinek But its simply that a "good" game.
+Eduard Marcinek They are still butthurt over not getting review copies before release. After giving it some thought I think Id made the right decision not giving them out. I am convinced that IGN does not know a good game when they see one anymore. The games that they give perfect scores to suck most of the time and some of the best games in recent memory got a 9.3 at best (Witcher 3). While it is okay not to give perfect scores out to every game I think it is important that you don't give them to games that leave a lot to be desired (The Witness). Hell, the reviewer in the IGN review does not even like run and gun FPS games if you read her review. She basically said she liked the first half of the game and then things started to get old. My question to her would be what did you want them to change in the formula to keep things interesting? If the formula works you do not change it, you just crank the volume up which is what DOOM does throughout it's campaign. I wouldn't give DOOM a perfect 10 because the multiplayer leaves something to be desired but I think the campaign earns it a 9/10 by itself. It doesn't really matter though, I got the game I wanted so I am happy either way. I just wish there was not sites like IGN that fails so miserably at their job. I guess I will stick to Rock, Paper, Shotgun as they seem to be honest and fair with their reviews.
Than why do you keep caring? why do you even care about someones else experience anyways? jesus lmao
blitzwing1 That is not totally true, The Witness was an indie game that did not deserve a 10. I think The Witness is a neat game but the game play is not even close to deserving a 10. It is so damn subjective though it is ridiculous. I am sure you wouldn't have to look to hard to find someone that enthusiastically disagrees with me on even The Witness. My point is, if that game is a 10, how do you give DOOM a 7.1? Even if you don't like run and gun FPS games I think it would be hard to deny it an 8/10 for single player alone.
The fact that this engine can run at 60 fps on console hardware which were limited when they came out is amazing. Especially when it looks as good as it does with Doom.
6 years later and Doom still looks amazing
There's actually a very unique graphical effect I've spotted in Doom which I'm surprised didn't get a mention in this video. Hazy glass. Most modern game engines for a long time have supported refractive transparent surfaces which operate by distorting the base opaque render buffer behind a transparent object. But in Doom, I've noticed there are glass surfaces which seem to blend a sharp and blurred version of the opaque buffer using a mask. It's a great effect, and creates glass surfaces which look realistically weathered or wet with steam.
See the quality on "weak" consoles is all down to developer wizadry. Job well done id.
Don't pirate this. We need to vote with our wallets that this is what we want.
+DiarrheaChain You can't pirate this, it's denuvo protected.
also don't pirate this.
+John Hitman They won't. Piracy is dead. At last.
+John Hitman denuvo doesn't mean piracy is dead MGSVTPP was protected by it and people found a way around it. I have the game in my ps4 but wanted to see how it looked with my hardware. To conclude, if there's a will there's a way denuvo isn't stopping anyone.
+phantom7489 "denuvo isn't stopping anyone" yes it is. Tell me a game that released in 2016 that's had denuvo and is cracked. Rise of the Tomb Raider is one example. Yet to be cracked. Same with DOOM and Hitman,. along with some others like Just Cause 3
+ZeldaMaster32 doom is cracked with your precious denuvo
AND NOW THIS AMAZING GAME IS COMNG TO SWITCH
I remember the animation work in rage was fantastic, with enemies able to climb walls, dodge and duck, roll etc. Its definitely one of their strong points.
FOV slider and graphics options on a console game? What is this heresy?
I thought this game kicked ass visually and game play wise on my 4 year old original Xbox one and 1080p tv. But today, my brand new Xbox One X and Samsung Q70 said hold my beer. 👍 So good.
I like dat Resident Evil 4 demo thou
Yeah me too
+Stevan Savic Me too. I'd taken that any day instead of the over the should crap we got.
+MadFinnTech Are you dissing Resident Evil 4? Dude....
+Ben Bourke No he isn't?
+Maximilian Stepien Thought he meant he'd take it over the Resi 4 we got
If more Developers would start making engines tailored for the
current gen we would have more Games that look visually nice and run
great and this is a perfect example.
There's no real need for a new PS4 or Xbox One at this time. Lets just wait until
Nov/Dec of 2019/2020.
We need new ones in 2018.
+Flying Snail Agreed
+Santiago Andres Sandoval it is because the game is linear
"the current gen" is about ten years ahead of consoles. Consoles are low-end PCs. Consoles limit all games because the games have to be made shitty enough to run on them. If it was financially viable to make a PC-exclusive AAA title, it would look 50x better than Uncharted 4.
We got the Xbox one X and it does 4k
So be happy
the performance of this game is insane! My PC isnt the newest anymore with my Radeon HD 7870 2GB and AMD CPU I can play this game at 60 FPS at all time with Vulkan enabled! Unbelievable.
easily the best looking game on xbox one. Stunning game.cannot get enough of the campaign at the moment. Sound , atmosphere, visuals and gameplay are spot on. Everything just "fits" perfectly. other developers should sit up and take notice. This is how its done
Crysis to Metroid Prime: Hey. How you doin'? ;)
Months later, Doom was born.
Love this game... And runs great as well... Using Vulkan at 1440p, high-ultra settings (a step above console's medium-high settings) and TSSAA 8x, you're getting rock solid 60fps 99% of the time on an OC'd 970/i5 machine...
It's not until after we beat it once did it start crashing to the desktop randomly. It's still not enough to stop us from playing. Excellent game.
GAME OF THE YEAR
Uncharted 4 or Dark Souls 3 are also contenders
WH250398 Definitly not UC4, a 30fps movie game with mediocore gameplay and a story about treasure hunting that has been told a thousand times already.
+V. W. Both are great games.
+V. W. I agree somewhat
*****
You haven't played it. Gameplay is very good.
RE4 Original Demo Trailer was actually the game I wanted to play. Even though it turned out to become a different RE4, still good but not the tech we were shown. I guess the limits of GC made Shinji Mikami rethink the initial design approach.
One of the best comebacks we have seen in the industry, well done ID! Now let's just find time to play it ;)
11:17 This Love?
+TecnoMercy exactly. Doom also has it's own "Mouth for War" and a little bit of "Rise", that's all I can remember right now.
+TecnoMercy yaaaa man!
Can you also cover the graphics on PC after you unlock the extra setting above ultra via console command, I wonder?
Nice DOS touch... great content as always DigitalFoundry... Keep up the good work.
Would be interesting to see how this engine performs outdoor, tropical environments including large scale maps like GTA 5. It's not designed to create such so I suspect it wouldn't be pretty.
Pimphand Gamester Well, the game opens up a few times and it looks great! And in the Lazarus labs one room displays plants, behind blurred glass but looks very convincing. Samuel Hayden's potted plants in his office may be a better example.
@@johnathonbeaumont8643 Welll untill you get to the mission 12 Vega Power Plant which my game turned a ultra on 60 fps to
45-55 fps on ultra
When can we expect a Digital Foundry Retro take on the original Doom?
Mythos there is already a 56 minutes DOOM episode (Df Retro).
Hermoso trabajo, ya no hay excusas para los desarrolladores. Cada mes vamos viendo mejores juegos graficamente en todas las plataformas.
Glad to see the peasants finally getting what they deserve - beautiful awesome games AT 60 FPS!
+A Game of Theories Took you guys long enough to just get 1080p.
Still not at all times though.
+Mehdi Alfiguigui Better get a 60fps bloodbourne patch for that...
Thank you! I am excited too.
And you? just getting >60 fps while using old games or low settings or expensive Hardware!
What would you go for, if you have to decide between 60fps or much better graphics?
Are you really think, you are a special one, while playing on PC?
I have both, but the consoles, just win! - Turn on, and just play as comfortable as possible!
+Christian “CodeMagician” M Way to be a fanboy...
Looks incredible. Same for gameplay. I'm definitely getting this.
Great stuff and insights well explained! Keep it up!
I am just sorry that the weapons and explosion sounds of Doom seem to lack impact. Maybe that's worth a video?
60fps and an FOV slider is a huge plus for the console version. FOV sliders should to be in every game.
PC master waste of money.
+Brenton Bolderoff Why?
Console gaming is more expensive...
All platforms are a waste of money.
+Patrick Schwind You are right, because consolegaming comes with an GF instead of PC gaming ;)
Raphi Müller
Oh dear... you wish 😁
I do 1440p at 125 fps...
Welcome to PC
too bad it doesnt matter to anyone :)
Gooseman2k2 Pc sucks!
Too bad pc gets allot of shitty ports doom is a good one though
Pc sucks
Urticant G A lot of shitty port, HAHAHAHAHA.
Battlefront looks better.
If only Battlefront had good gameplay.
+HIGHSCORE AAA regardless it's a better looking game and that's what the video is about.
But battlefront is 900/720 on consoles
Pauls
Nobody is talking about Doom 3. You seem like a dumb person.
+Pauls Uhh dude, shut up please. You resort to personal attacks, this is extremely childish.
And straight away in your first comment you start shouting illogical things:
"IF YOU THINK YOUR OPINION IS A FACT, IT STILL ISN'T. " and go on being a smartass on what objectivity and subjectivity is. Clearly people know that other people have different opinions. Being subjective is the default. By your logic, everyone who says something should start with "my personal opinion is that..." - no, the opposite is the exception, when people claim objective facts, they should point out that the comment is based on real, measurable data, and NOT a subjective opinion. If they fail to emphasize that, it is taken as a subjective opinion by default. Besides, why can't you comment normally?
Richard, I would like to see an Asus Strix R9 390X vs GTX 970 comparation at this time. I'm sure the Strix 390X can keep up with GTX 970 in FPS and even can get higher FPS then the GTX970.
Wow! I learned so much more than what I thought I would! Great video.
Finally!! A video about consoles without salty comments! Wait, is this an alternative reality or something? I don't believe this somehow...
It looks beautiful on all three platforms. Far better looking shooter than anything ever.
Amazing video man, thumbs up!
Vulkan really does show it's the future of Apis
>Xbox One version has to subsample to even 720p in some areas
And now we know which console to blame for the arbitrary object limits in the cross-platform snapmap creator.
"You should pay it right now" But steam summer sale will be here soon.
Great video guys!
This is by far the best shooter i played this year. And one of the two best games of 2016. The number 1 game is of course Dark souls 3.
This game is so beautiful! What other games use ID Tech 6
none yet
barfyman362 Thats sad. Such a nice looking engine.
Zachary Wells
the next wolfenstein game will almost definitely use it though, as the new order used ID tech 5
barfyman362 Oh that would look rad ass! Do you know when it is being rumoured for release?
I liked this video almost as much as I like the game. Subscribed.
Dynamic resolutions aren't ideal, but I'd take that over locked 30fps if I was playing these games on consoles. If that's what they need to do to get them running properly on these machine, then so be it.
This is what real game developers do => They put loads of love and passion into their product. BUY don't pirate !!!
I really enjoy this game and it looks really nice graphics wise, but my main problem i have with it is that the character walks/runs way to fast. Don't get me wrong i like the fast paced movement while in the middle of the "action" but sometimes in between i would like to look at the incredible graphics at a slower speed. Yes i know that you can walk in the game, but i would have likes if the character could walk a little faster, just a bit :)
Do this to all brand new exclusive games for PS4 and Xbox One. 1080p/60.
Was that a MIDI version of Pantera's "This Love" at 11:07?
If Graphics weren't important we'd all still be playing Atari 2600 games, watching VHS tapes, old tube TV's, regular old flash cameras from the 70's, have no bright colored cars. and have no HD computer screens, tablets, phones, or HDTV/Blu Rays. I think you get my point, people and gadgets, even the earth itself (we) try to improve it's beauty. So the objective of games is to make them bigger, better, and prettier. Also not forgetting the framerates and gameplay. Which are the games personality. And sometimes over looked. The whole world is about appearance, cats, dogs, cute babies, clothes, make up etc. It may be vanity but it's life. Even though I don't believe in God, if in fact he did make everything, he made it to be beautiful. Not drab and ugly. :)
this game is so immersive fucking love new doom imsure i will play it more than once
i loved Doom it was freaking awesome. Is it bad if I want them to make a Doom 5 or maybe even a remaster of quake 1 with this new engine. I played this at 4k with a gtx 980 set to high and it played really well at times it dipped but most of the time it was freaking awesome. I'd tech 6 I hope more games use it from Bethesda and ID software.
Doom, Quake, Unreal Tournament, YEAAHH
GREAT video!!
I'm glad they got rid of the Call of Doom game they had thought at first. Doom only needs a minimal story and fast gameplay.
Badass game. What does chromatic abbreviation do exactly?
Ok Bethesda now put all of this in the hands of MachineGames and give us a new Wolfenstein!
Nice simpsons reference at the end there.
very informative video, thx!
holy shit, great video
Wow, Rage still looks good. Like a painting.
Looks like the ID engine has become the new cry engine
My cousin spilt ALL my infant entrails AND knocked over our last gallon of sacrificial virgin blood playing this, I guess the demon invasion of earth will have to wait.
This is by far the most well optimized game on consoles. You guys got really lucky with this one. I hope more developers start taking notes, because 30 fps sucks.
Can you do a budget pc vs console on this game?
Waiting for the analysis of Doom on Nintendo Switch!
id Software came out and made every other developer look like amateurs.
amen
Yes
+Ed Turvey I sold my Xbox One for a PS4, glad I did now. Got doom for free with store credit. I'm tired of the mediocre Xbox experience. Rise Of the TR was one of the best looking game around, but everything now coming out now it's pretty trashy.
Well i do think ID Tech 6 is a voxel based engine which is alot less demanding on the hardware then polygons. But after watching how good the new doom looks i think all engines should be voxel based.
+Jeremy Freeman I cant wait to see Rise of the TR on my PS4!!
This engine is incredibly well optimized and looks beautiful, I'm rven hitting over 100 fps on my gtx 970, that's incredible!
Other developers need to take note, this is how an engine should be.
+Kitty Kat No, it's terribly optimized on PC. Most GPUs that are less powerful than the still very powerful 970 struggle to hit a constant 60 on low settings.
+Mehdi Alfiguigui I don't agree. OpenGL is still a relatively good API. This was a design choice by the programmers. They made a conscious decision to set recommended requirements where they are at. They had a idea how they wanted the game to behave. If you own x < GTX 970, don't buy DOOM, save for a new card instead.
DonRobo Maybe it's time for people to upgrade their toasters? If a GTX 970 can reach into the hundreds on max settings I see no reason why other cards cannot run it well, you must have some crappy 750 Ti to be running it badly.
+Mehdi Alfiguigui Terrible old OpenGL render?! Doom 4 runs on the latest OpenGL 4.x (similar to Dx11). Btw Vulkan existence do not means OpenGL or even DirectX will go away, they will not go anywhere for some more years, if ever, they are easier to work with than Vulkan and there's still plenty of perfectly capable GPU's out there that don't support Vulkan (or Dx12) fully, but support very well OpenGL and DirectX.
+Mehdi Alfiguigui That is not true and khronos never said OpenGL was worse than D3D (directX), OpenGL is equal to D3D11 the only diference between the two is that, OpenGL has to run and be supported everywhere (for example Android and Apple cellphones use OpenGL exclusively) so is more complex and harder to work it, D3D11 only needs to run on Windows and Xbox so is less complex, if that makes it "better" is debatable in functionality they are exactly the same.
60 FPS is DEFINITELY PLAYABLE!
+BLACKB0ND Doesn't matter since our eyes can't see pass 14 FPS.
Bond tales
+Bestgameplayer10 13... n00b
+BLACKB0ND I usually don't mind 30fps in single player games, but the fact that DOOM runs at 60fps is a huge deal and adds a lot to the experience.
MadPropzBaller Eventhough I'm a performance and graphics snob I'll agree ;p I've played many games at 30fps locked (even on my PC) but all of them were singleplayer games. I mean: Witcher 3? Sure 60 or higher rocks, but it's still an amazing experience at 30 that I'd recommend to anyone!
id Tech 6 looks like the result of UE4 and CryEngine 3 having a baby with the optimization for Uncharted 4 and Halo 5.
unreal engine ewwww with flipping assets hahahaha i go for cryengine not unreal engine hahaha
Geometry and textures are pretty average. Not that bad but nothing special either. The main focus is on materials, lighting, particles, and post processing effects. Pretty similar to IW Engine using in Call of Duty games, if you ask me.
Agree
@@okaybutwhythough7456 iw engine is derived from id software's Quake 3 engine hahahaha!
@@allancandaza
That's probably one of the biggest misunderstandings out there. The first version of IW Engine in COD 1 was noticably based on I'd tech 3, but ever since COD 2 they've changed a lot of the code and went into a completely different direction than I'd tech at the time. By 2010 there was barely anything left from the code. It was in 2011 when BF3's marketing with Frostbite 2 came out that everyone started pointing out COD's "old" engine, when BF3 targeted PC, and MW3 targeted consoles, and also ran at double the frame rate on them.
In reality, basing your engine from an already existing one is a common practice.
Each CryEngine version is based on the previous one, which traces back to 2003, and CryEngine itself was a significantly modified version of Jedi engine from 1995(which itself was rumored to be based on id tech 1 from 1993)
Dunia Engine used in Far Cry games is based on CryEngine 1 so it also traces it's roots there.
Obviously all the versions of id tech are also based on previous ones, tracing back to 1993 as well.
Unreal does the same.
The difference is the frequency at which it's being done, with new CoD releasing every year.
Darwin bless those nerds
atheist ?wtf
+Mohamed GN alah kebab
*****
what church?
go fuck your church as jumbo-J1 said :D
btw I'm An Atheist
*****
So what's your point ? you just want to show us you are close minded ? religion barriers you put between you and the rest will throw you sooner or later in misery.
Playing Doom 1080p max settings and 165Hz is so insanely amazing.
Hoffy C.H idc
1440p 144hz max for me and the game runs like an absolute fucking dream
good guys id joines the "not lazy ass game developers list"
Here's hoping for a new Quake!
Man they would be heroes if they did that straight after crafting such a good Doom game.
+Nomad quake is not much of a diffrent then doom
+Shadowriver Quake is about Mythology, Doom is about demons and shit.
+mrpositronia They would be crazy if they dont do a Quake game after the amount of prize they are getting now.
+mrpositronia please no, they'll casualize the fuck out of it.
If only more Developers would start making engines tailored for the current gen we would have more Games that look visually nice and run great and this is a perfect example.
There's no real need for a PS4 Neo or Xbox One Half at this time considering it isn't possible to release a console at the moment for $399 to dish out 4K with current gen visuals. Lets just wait until Nov/Dec of 2019/2020 by then it should be possible with ease.
4K was never intended to be the target game resolution for PS4 NEO lol
It plays UHD blu-rays and streaming services in 4K, that's it.
+MrSlashStudios You known this how? lol
+BLVDKillz if you check the cost of current 4k cards, you'll find the answer rather quickly. sadly, their cost is rather in the high end, and outside of using more simulation to "amp" the effect of the visuals (which is more taxing in hardware, I might add) you're looking at something that could not hold a $400 price tag. not a chance in hell.
berzu21
Well, it isn't much different when we talk about open-world games.
The only reason that the game looks and runs well on consoles is because it's a linear path. The xbone and ps4 are too weak and the upgraded consoles need to come out asap
Bethesda Game Studios needs to use this engine for future Fallout and Elder Scrolls titles.
It belongs to Id software not Bethesda they just published these titles.
@@Harv-E Bethesda owns Id and the engine
ZeniMax is the parent company of both Bethesda Game Studios and id Software (and many others), and Bethesda Softworks is their publishing arm. So Bethesda Game Studios could use id Tech 6 if they wanted to, instead of slapping yet another coat of paint onto their ancient Gamebryo-based Creation Engine.
I agree 100%, and have been saying it for a while now, that Bethesda Game Studios needs to work closely with id Software to fork id Tech 6, retooling it where needed to optimize it for open world RPG gameplay. I would *_love_* to see that happen!
@@HickoryDickory86 id tech are allways masters of engine technology so it would be interesting to see if they did.
NO WICHARD? Come on!
he only do pc's
+Juan Valencia wichard's gotta have some time off, too. to play games, like "the richard 3" :D
+Juan Valencia He got tired of the annoying nerds on here.
#DigitalFoundry - Is it possible for you to render all your videos to high quality 4K 60fps and upload it to UA-cam instead, please? This would ensure that we would experience the best quality video out there due to UA-cam's low 1080p data-rate. It would be so fantastic if you could do this going forward for ALL videos you do.
+Sir Jarko I'm sorry, but I have to completely disagree with you for unless you know DF's general workflow and network upload speed, I don't think you can say that. If you were generalizing, then depending on the video (using this video as a case-in-point which is 12mins+ in length) it does not take me 12 hrs to upload a lengthy video at 4K, not at all.
In the end, all depends on the video size and network speed. 4K MP4 which a nice data-rate is not massively big in comparison to other formats such as DNxHD. Considering the specs of DF machinery (their machines are powerful otherwise they can't consider themselve as a pioneering benchmarking and graphics comparison company, I strongly believe they won't have any issues rendering at that resolution and I'm sure they won't have too much issue in regards to upload. In the end, I strongly believe it is a case of whether they are "bothered" to do it or not, but I believe that they should be very bothered providing high quality video comparison would further benefit their credibility & impression.
Anyhow, only a person from that company and working on the videos can actually communicate what the reality is in respect to them. Thank you for chiming in though, much appreciated..
No need to actually RECORD 4k.
There is some other youtube videos where they show that due to youtube wonkyness, you get better quality at 1080p if you upscale to 4k and send to youtube, than if you send actual 1080p.
id Software is best console developers
+brrrandonS Naughty Dog makes great movies
+ManagedCorn great movies with average stories
Yeah, she's producer at Naughty Dog.
+ManagedCorn They didn't make quantum break...
Vfopie jcod They also didn't make Beyond Two Souls, so what's your point?
Doom and Uncharted really show that console devs aren't even trying to be good at game development.
+MagnaSonic3000 The fuck you talking about?
Something you are clearly too stupid to understand.
+MagnaSonic3000 I wonder the same about PC devs when I see Star Citizen.
Yeah, honestly these companies pushed the boundaries of what you'd expect, so it's nice to see some devs not cutting corners.
No shit, that's why it's in beta.
This game looks so good and realistic that it makes the saturated, grainy looking 30 fps uncharted 4 look like a saturday morning cartoon.
In my opinion it's the best shooting vidgoame in years. It's so much fun.
I'm really satisfied with this nice looking graphics on consoles, I found it more pleasant to play than Halo 5, I hope developers put on it a time attack mode the game is so enjoyable to replay so make it worthy !
The year 2016: when you can ask the question "But cant it run Doom?" and be legitimately serious about the question.
I can't get over just how much I love everything about the new Doom. A masterpiece iD, a masterpiece.
Hey DigitalFoundry, are you guys going to test DOOM with the budget PC? Thanks!
Oh, and it runs in OpenGL on PC. :v (Not sure if it does so on the consoles as well.) I see that as a good thing.
***** Ah, thanks!
+Rudis that's not exactly accurate. I'm not sure why this information keeps circulating but GNM has a lot more in common with Mantle and Vulkan, an example the command buffer management that the developer has to do. GNM is a departure from PSGL, which was used on the PS3. They wanted a shading language that was contemporary (PSSL) and in order to do that they needed a more modernized API. It was AMD's work on both GNM and the Xbone's hybrid DX11 API (prior to the transition to DX12) that resulted in Mantle. GNM is very much not OpenGL.
+Rudis given that details of the API are only given under the pretense of an NDA, I'd like to see the source for your claims that it was ever based on OpenGL. If you're in an actual position of authority to discuss it without delving into abstracts you'd be violating your NDA.
In my opinion, it's more a bad thing for amd users!
because AMD drivers a very very bad on OpenGL site!
Also don't let You blend from marketing bullshit, like dx12 features and so on!
All that counts is the Shader model!
+oldsk00l
Consoles are out of this question!
They go with a unique perfectly optimized driver!
And if it allowed, the developer's can go ahead using the Hardware directly, without any driver translation!
And that's the answer, why Consoles are that efficient!
Xbox one can go down to 1371x756. Looks to me like Doom has the biggest resolution gap between xbox and ps4 and its a problem. Xbox needs bettter implementation of dx12 and sdram to keep up with ps4 GPU and DDR5 memory advantage. As an xbox owner i hate this ever growing gap :(
Beautiful testament of love to the game. I almost cried at the end! :-D Seriously though it's an amazing game that most media didn't review right, because they didn't get what this game is about, but the way you described the game was absolutely perfect! You get it, and so are we! Too bad you didn't talk about the FOV though, I was looking forward to see if changing it on console would affect the performance. It would be a nice way to benchmark the game. Anyway thank you for this video! It was awesome. Lily
I actually did test FOV but forgot to include it in the video. I found that the performance was basically identical at all FOV settings, thankfully!
Hahaha, ok. :) Lily
+GirlsMeetAdventures Have the FOV @110 all the time...On mission 4 though,bridge section,it does have an impact on fps...Putting it @default does reduce the load on PS4's GPU but not completely.Other than that 1080p 60fps,a blast to play..
+Vagelis C Thanks for the info :)
wow at this rate, if this game gets a Neo upgrade, it should be identical to PC Ultra settings at 1080p/60fps. kudos to Id.
Im not so sure yes ı haven't played on a console that much and played 99% of my games on PC but around that time new DOOM would come out and PC specs would already be higher ım not saying this to bash at the consoles or at the console players ım just trying to say what ı think so plz no hate only hate them demons and DON'T FORGET TO RIP AND TEAR THEM ALL!!!!
Having played through the campaign, I was very impressed by the graphics. Initially I thought it would be all corridors, and that constrictive space was essentially how the game was able to look so good. However there a few times when environments do open up a fair bit and you're able to see a great deal with the frame rate remaining intact. Very cool stuff, I wanna see more from ID cos they've got some real technical mastery.
My friend thinks game looks terrible for a 2016 game. Idk what he’s talking about
These videos are my new favorite series... So happy ID and DooM are back...
I played this game @ 1080p 75hz. It ran absolutely flawless on my 4670k GTX 970.
I played it on a GTX 980m laptop with an i7-4720. It ran at Ultra settings at 60-100 fps, depending on level. Crazy.
One word: Beautiful!