absolutely love this channel so far. after liam passed ive been rewatching loads of reaction channels. idk if anyone will read this but here is just some of my random opinions and stuff on 1D while im listening. first off all i just wanna say how seriously underrated liam was. the band was created around him since he was the best vocalist from day one(then zayn grew into his voice and they both became amazing) loads of people called liam jealous of harry but to me id also be jealous. liam was clearly the best vocalist and it took it seriously but because the public took a strong liking to harry the management selfishly pushed harry to the front. they are all amazing singers but it was clear harry wasnt the best and it really was unfair on liam and zayn, mainly liam. and for zayn my heart seriously breaks for him. as someone who has also struggled with anxiety, depresssion & anorexia i completely get him. he came in to try it out on his own, they all did. but he specifically struggled with anxiety and being put into a band where your forced to sing music ur not passionate about must of been really hard and draining. hes the type of guy to not confront people because he doesnt like bringing others down. he was always known as the softie from people who known them personally but somehow the media twisted it and made him out to be the bad person. calling him a terrorist, a cheater, a abuser and the list goes on. he barely defended himself too. it was really heartbreaking to watch at the time and still till this day is. he had every right to leave that group. it was really selfish of the fans and the boys to get mad at him for it. i do understand that they would of wanted him to stay but it was so clear from almost the start that he wasnt happy. they also said several times that they knew he wasnt happy. loads of fans could tell too, people who didnt even kmow him could tell. his words were always twisted too, and private situations leaked and rumours made. like with him and perrie it took him ages to speak up and defend himself because people said he broke up with her over text and he had to clear up that he didnt, and the yolanda stuff. all of them were put through alot in that band and as much as i love looking back at old memories it honestly hurts to know what was going on and know alot of them were struggling, specially liam and zayn. i just wish they had a better experience. but yeah thats my little rant over😂😂 gonna get back to binge watching these old reactions.
I’m such a huge zayn fan and I absolutely loved your opinions in this video. Obviously over time all the boys have had time to reflect, heal and mature. Even with zayns most recent interviews he’s reflecting and speaking positively about the band.
1D historian is a lawyer, she certain has the ability to research and explain a situation allowing for human frailties. She’s also silly and hilarious with it.
I found it interesting and actually crazy that you used the word "Alienated" to decribe zayn at the time, you guys should react to zayn's live performance of his song "Alienated" lol you used that word to describe how zayn was feeling at the tine of all this and I think that song could make you guys hear some of how he was feeling in those lyrics
@@homejournalistit’s a theory that the 2 of them had a fight and didn’t end on a good note before/when he left, which would contribute to zayn’s vision of their relationship right after when he was still mad and hurt, and the way harry acted in the band when zayn was mentioned after he left.
I think it's likely that management didn't protect Zayne enough from the hate he was dealing with. PR people didn't want to stir up any 'controversy' and expected him to just 'take it' Even his band mates didn't know the extent of it or weren't allowed to speak about it. All members of one direction signed a 'morals clause'. Harry said when he signed the contract for his solo career he cried when he realized he didn't have to sign a morals clause.
Ryan the kind of artist you are describing that you like personality wise is actually ZAYN . He is very clear and vocal about his political views , he always supported his bandmates from everything although he was also in the same contract, he is honest to the core , to this day he has never badmouthed any of his bandmates ( I don't consider him saying I really don't speak to Harry that much as a hate especially when he replying to the question asked although there is no proof in which interview he said that ) . Was sabotaged by big music mafias, they tried to destroy his career completly especially there were articles how Simon Cowell wants to destroy Zayn after he left band till this day ZAYN gets no royalty for his part in one direction but never stopped making music Man you need to check his solo interviews he has done very few compare to other artists but worth watching. He literally never said he hated one direction music in the magazine interview if you read he said " one direction music is genric as eff* and he enjoyed it earlier but not as a 22 yrs old , he is an adult amd wanted to explore the music and experiment with the kind of different musical influences he have growing up including south asian music which he couldn't in one direction" and I think ot was fair enough! His autobiography gave so much insight to his side of story and Zayn wanted people to know he is utterly grateful for his good times and all the fame ,money that came because of being in the band but has his own reasons to move on from it "It didn't even felt concious decision when I left it was like my body didn't allow me to stay more". It was a bestseller in Newyork 2016 but I don't think alot of one direction fan who were angry at him had read it! There is a UA-camr Max Beaumont he is communicating and personality coach like you guys he has analysed alot of one direction after analysing alot of videos he said I really feel bad for Zayn , you can tell he is clearly suffering from inside and he loves his bandmates wants to interact with them but always gets ignored and interviewers too always ignores him and never ask any questions . His analysis on Louis and Zayn video was spot on if u see it u will know. Also you guys are really fun to watch I have discovered this channel like a week ago, you guys are almost my father's age so to get a mature perspective on things is really cool. much love ❤
I found it weird when she said Zayn betrayed his bandmates because of u look up to all of their solo interviews they admitted to knowing about hiatus and planning solo career, Harry even admitted in interview that he was the first one to bring hiatus back in 2013 there were rumours too that he was planning his solo career way before and band management was secretly helping him , even Zayn said his leaving statement was made by lawyer of the management and the band members knew he was leaving, because after leaving Zayn went straight to his home and the one direction page out our that statement not in his presence it wasn't from Z's account. So, they all obviously knew.If it was someone else they would have easily triggered by the video especially against Zayn because she literally skipped a lot of his part of the story even in call her daddy podcast Zayn talked fondly about one direction days and just after that part he said at one point they were very close he will always cherish the good times as he looks at it at much fondly than when he just left. And I am new to one direction myself I have actually been freshly digging these things from the past by watching various 1d related content by reactors like u, and og 1d stans.Plus reading and watching all of the members interviews. Zayn recently has healed from one direction days after 8-9 yrs and is much more comfortable talking about it fondly , he has said his 3 yrs old child has changed his perspective on life and u can feel it. I really like your reactions as much as I have seen ❤
That’s why I’m a fan of 5SOS! The boys have supported each other putting out solo albums and individual projects, but have decided they their band will come 1st and continue making music together. No guilt. But, it’s true what you said. 5 SOS basically grew up together and started their own band! A very different dynamic then being put together on a show! Hate what 1D went through because of management though. 😢. ❤
Things she missed mostly what zayn said after: -In 2014 almost all of zayn's songs were rejected to be put on the album. The reason being that they did not fit "the grain" of what one direction was. -yes the boys may have been under very strict contracts but as everyone knows harry was publicized as a "sex symbol" at the mere age of 16. And whenever any interviewer or reporter have tried to slam that on him zayn has without taking a breath defended him. There are video proofs. Even other boys. Yes they might be restricted to speak on some topics but that never stopped him so it might be fare of him to expect the same to some level -he said in an interview he was not allowed to keep a beard, cuz he looked older than the other boys and had to dress a certain way to fit his "character " in the band -he did want to talk in interviews and be excited just like the other boys but was told to talk less so he could be the mysterious one. -after he left and boys released drag me down, he congratulated them on tweeter and no one acknowledged that except Liam (atp the only one he was talking to) -he said there were some pretty bad things said when he was leaving by the boys that he didn't expect. -he never said 1d songs were shit but just generic pop which was not necessarily his type of music or something he would play if he went out with his gf , which is pretty clear from his solo career and he is now even appreciative of them -he had no creative input in 1d and would be asked to sing a verse several times untill he sang it as they wanted him to -zayn was the first to reach out to louis when his mother died. -he also appreciated their song history in an interview after its release. -harry asked for hiatus first in 2013 as admitted in an interview but was turned down by the others. It is assumed that only zayn agreed with him, causing a disagreement with the rest of the boys and it happened just before the imterview with the prince hair zayn clip. -it is believed that louis and niall did not want the hiatus but harry insisted on it and that's the reason they had a fallout -the racisn and islamophobia was to the point where posters were seen in 1d concerts calling him a terrorist, getting accused of the bombing at ariana's manchester concert, a song on spotify titled 'zayn did 9/11', accused of being a part of isis, being asked racist questions in interviews (like why he had a gun tattooed), being held back at airports for hours while the other boys just went through and many more. After leaving he wore a t shirt saying "I'm not a terrorist please don't arrest me". -there is a rumored phone call that zayn made to harry at 2 am when he left the band which apparently involved a lot of crying.
“Zopiteetaa Putcha Putcha Putchabaa Habaa Habba-Hi…” Zayn said that he and Harry never really spoke but it’s interesting that Zayn has only mentioned Harry by name out of all of the boys in his two most recent sit-down interviews. On that same Call Her Daddy podcast last summer, he described meeting Harry for the first time and reminisced how they sat together during the first round of X-Factor tryouts. And then when Zayn was on Hot Ones about a month ago, he was asked about his worst technical difficulty while performing onstage and he responded with the incident when he had pulled Harry away to prevent him from being burned by the pyrotechnics. Zayn also talked about the band two other times during that Hot Ones interview so it really seems like he’s looking back at that time in the band with more fondness. Nathan, you had mentioned how Zayn was perhaps feeling alienated in the band and interestingly, “Alienated” is the title of his second single from his new album.
It’s a theory that they had a fall out before/when zayn left end they didn’t end on a good note, which would explain their behavior right after, colored by being hurt and mad. Harry during the rest of one direction and zayn on his statement about harry. Hopefully with time the hurt/mad lenses wore off and that’s why he can look at it with a different perspective now years later.
@@ceciliacabrini Well, it seems to be more than a theory ever since 2019 when travel writer Joe Cummings tweeted out that he and Harry had gone out for a hard night of drinking in Bangkok in 2015 after Harry had a falling out with Zayn. (Joe's tweets about it are still up.) Of course, Zayn left the tour just four days later and then officially left the band six days after that. (Lesser known is that Harry went out heavy drinking three nights in a row and Joe only joined him on that second night so it seems like it definitely affected Harry.) So, I agree: I don't think Mr. The-Paperwork-Was-The-Hardest-Part-Of-Zayn-Leaving (Harry) and Mr. I-Never-Spoke-To-Harry-Even-While-In-The-Band (Zayn) left it on good terms at all. I do believe that they were very close and, in my opinion, even planned to leave the band together regardless of what the other three boys wanted to do. Zayn has confirmed in recent interviews that there were indeed interpersonal issues/problems in the band and he decided to leave "to get ahead of the curve" of it all ending after he could see that certain people weren't signing contracts. But yes, it seems pretty clear that Zayn is looking back on his 1D days with more appreciation than when he left and even seems to be at peace with it, to a certain extent. For that, I'm very glad.
I think Zayn probably had a really tough time in the group. All of the boys were so young when everything kicked off, and the fandom was so intense that life probably felt wildly out of their control at times. His leaving was probably the right thing at the time. Sucks that things were so dramatic and sad for everyone though. With all due respect, I think fans sometimes feel very entitled to information about their favourite celebrities. They expect them to share vulnerable emotions and articulate and defend them publicly. It’s just not possible, so hurting fans becomes inevitable. Great analysis guys, I appreciate how balanced you are, it’s a breath of fresh air.
That Facebook announcement she talked about wasn't written by Zayn he himself confirmed that himself. He opened up about not having control over anything in the band to the extent he developed an ED bc food was the only thing he could control
I’m not to sure if this is 100% true but there is a big speculation that harry wrote “walking in the wind” about a 2 am call he had with zayn before he left the band. it is said that harry was the first one to know zayn was leaving as he had called him at 2 am in tears saying that he was going to leave. which if you listen to the lyrics of “walking in the wind” it does sorta make sense. Theres also another rumour thats been around for a while saying that harry was actually the one begging management for a break but was denied over and over again. Theres an interview out there where they seemed uncomfortable which is rumoured have been recorded after an argument the boys had after harry had brought up the hiatus to them which was quickly shut down by the boys as they felt they were at their peak.
I remember going to school the day after the announcement of Zayn leaving, and I was super sad and quiet all day so my friend suggested listening to 1D to cheer me up and I just burst into tears
It seems you might not know the history well. Naughty Boy was defending Zayn there; it wasn't for the fans. Liam posted on Instagram shading Zayn with a "new fifth member" comment, and Naughty Boy then posted that picture captioning it "replace this." Louis knew exactly what he was doing by jumping in, knowing those Mac filters were Zayn's thing.
@@jamiecastronova8282is tiring to see how louis biased most people in that fandom is, specially when they’re usually the ones feeding the information to new people.
And i will reiterate what ive said before. I believe they let the boys go on xfactor so that theyd be heartbroken and when they were given a 'second chance' together as a band, of course they all jumped at it. So Zayn took what he thought was his only chance to build a music career.
Complete contradiction in literally one sentence, "we had absolutely no idea of the racism..." to "we were the biggest defenders", now which one was it. Stated as if Zayn should be grateful, go figure 🙄.
@WelpHereWeAreOnUA-cam I guess if it's neither, then why say it. 🤷 I understand the individual was trying to make a point that you can't help if you don't know something's going on, but then you can't be the staunch defender. At the end of the day, it wasn't the "fandom's" issue to deal with, but should they then get a say in how Zayn dealt with it, I personally didn't like the comments that he betrayed the fans and I still support your analysis of this video ✌️
Not a "Directioner", just stumbled here after listening to Zayn's newest album. But, regarding Zayn saying that he "never really spoke to Harry, even in the band," did it ever occur to anyone that he may have been talking about how things were just before he left? Sometimes people reflect on a current situation and forget to give full context to how they are feeling in the moment. He may have had a good relationship with all the boys at one time, but by the time he left, maybe it wasn't that great.
It’s a theory that they had a fall out before/when zayn left end they didn’t end on a good note, which would explain their behavior right after, colored by being hurt and mad. Harry during the rest of one direction and zayn on his statement about harry. Hopefully with time the hurt/mad lenses wore off and that’s why he can look at it with a different perspective now years later.
Those few things she showed were not the full scale of Harry/Zayn interactions - they 100% clearly talked, whispered, shared water, touches, laughs, secrets, looks - this statement has to be like you said something said to get the interviewer off his back or to ditract from their closeness. There is also an article where Zayn called Harry his rock as well as that he called Harry at 2am and told him he was leaving before it came out. Lots and lots of evidence that that statement was complete bullshit
someone should reccomend them 5 of the most memorable moments in 1d history by hey angel. Their reactions would be hilarious. Especially to the wanted feud.
The part where she said 1D fans didn't know about the racism and Islamophobia Zayn faced is irksome because Bill Maher compared him to the Boston bomber on national television! He was getting death threats from tabloids for saying "Free Palestine" in 2014. There's no way you missed all that. Also this woman never read his book because he didn't say nobody defended him he talked about his own experience without dragging anyone
see now that's the problem in zayn's case most of the time.. people just assume him to be the bad guy based on half knowledge from media.. zayn never abused his girlfriend.. even in the case filed against him it was verbal abuse against yolanda (ex-girlfriend gigi's mother).. but yolanda's pr team just posted an article in media that zayn hit her which was later proved to be false.. even in the official complaint against him it's not stated anywhere.. also to give you full context yolanda went to zayn's house to take khai.. she barged into his house and wanted to take her against his will and they got into a fight.. zayn and gigi wanted to hide Khai's face from media till she grows up.. but yolanda wanted clout based on grand daughter.. for 1 full year gigi and zayn managed to hide khai's face.. but somehow papz managed to click khai's face one single day yolanda went out with her.. also zayn got hate for a lot of things and eventually every statement of his turned to be true in a few years...
You do have to keep in mind too, they are still under 1D contracts as far as we know. So I doubt we are even close to knowing the full story. Louis had several reasons to be the most bitter (rational or not). They had been the close friends but also Louis wrote on the most 1D songs and heavily influenced their later sound. Plus he’d been trying to keep the band together and I’m sure did feel lied to, especially since from what we know he was the leader and the boys generally listened to him. I do think you’re wrong (well about many things 😂) about them never getting back together. It maybe in a limited way and Zayn may not be there, but I predict like next five years.
The boys were not allowed to talk on political items. Look at Louis friends some are Muslim. Zayn was out so he could say what he liked where as the boys still had their hands tied. At the end of the day, Zayne looked after Zayne because he thought he was better than everyone else. The boys had to follow the rules because of their contract.
People seem to have forgotten that Fandom is for the fans. It's our little community, we understand each other's language, when we agree on a topic or when we disagree on a topic. But when mainstream media or anyone outside of the Fandom try to extract certain instances out of that bubble, it loses all the context attached to it and frankly looks stupid/petty or strange. It's unfair on fans and disrespectful. 1D historian always does a great job of contextualizing these moments in time.
min 24:58 ok you are laughing, but now i'm crying because i haven't seen the Tweet of zayn since a lot. and idk i just started to cry because that tweet still hurt so much (especially because nobody of us expect this reaction from zayn. we were in shock)
Yeah... He said "He never really spoke to harry" but he also said "I didn't made a true friend in the band". it's ok for Harry (even if it is not because they seem very close) but for the others?? That was gross, because for sure the boys loved him (or at least and Liam did it and Harry too, they suffered when he left). So it is not an excuse that they were Just bandmate or we don't live with them ecc... especially because you are breaking the heart of all your fans (I honestly prefer to live in a lie instead of know that 5 ppl I thought were brothers weren't really friends and faked to be brothers for 5 years. I think he shouldn't say that, even If it was the truth 🙄😒)
Hi there I’m zayn, me and Louis just hit the pub last night! We doing great thank you❤️
lol. This is the funniest comment
Zayn left islam but his mom is britch his mom is eropian he is half Asian @@WelpHereWeAreOnUA-cam
absolutely love this channel so far. after liam passed ive been rewatching loads of reaction channels. idk if anyone will read this but here is just some of my random opinions and stuff on 1D while im listening. first off all i just wanna say how seriously underrated liam was. the band was created around him since he was the best vocalist from day one(then zayn grew into his voice and they both became amazing) loads of people called liam jealous of harry but to me id also be jealous. liam was clearly the best vocalist and it took it seriously but because the public took a strong liking to harry the management selfishly pushed harry to the front. they are all amazing singers but it was clear harry wasnt the best and it really was unfair on liam and zayn, mainly liam. and for zayn my heart seriously breaks for him. as someone who has also struggled with anxiety, depresssion & anorexia i completely get him. he came in to try it out on his own, they all did. but he specifically struggled with anxiety and being put into a band where your forced to sing music ur not passionate about must of been really hard and draining. hes the type of guy to not confront people because he doesnt like bringing others down. he was always known as the softie from people who known them personally but somehow the media twisted it and made him out to be the bad person. calling him a terrorist, a cheater, a abuser and the list goes on. he barely defended himself too. it was really heartbreaking to watch at the time and still till this day is. he had every right to leave that group. it was really selfish of the fans and the boys to get mad at him for it. i do understand that they would of wanted him to stay but it was so clear from almost the start that he wasnt happy. they also said several times that they knew he wasnt happy. loads of fans could tell too, people who didnt even kmow him could tell. his words were always twisted too, and private situations leaked and rumours made. like with him and perrie it took him ages to speak up and defend himself because people said he broke up with her over text and he had to clear up that he didnt, and the yolanda stuff. all of them were put through alot in that band and as much as i love looking back at old memories it honestly hurts to know what was going on and know alot of them were struggling, specially liam and zayn. i just wish they had a better experience. but yeah thats my little rant over😂😂 gonna get back to binge watching these old reactions.
31:45 I love how nathan mentions zayn feeling alienated and "alienated" is zayns single for his next albumm, which he wrote 5 years ago!
I’m such a huge zayn fan and I absolutely loved your opinions in this video. Obviously over time all the boys have had time to reflect, heal and mature. Even with zayns most recent interviews he’s reflecting and speaking positively about the band.
1D historian is a lawyer, she certain has the ability to research and explain a situation allowing for human frailties. She’s also silly and hilarious with it.
She didn't much research as it seems coz half of the things she said are incomplete or total misinformation
I found it interesting and actually crazy that you used the word "Alienated" to decribe zayn at the time, you guys should react to zayn's live performance of his song "Alienated" lol you used that word to describe how zayn was feeling at the tine of all this and I think that song could make you guys hear some of how he was feeling in those lyrics
Did she just forgot that he literally congratulated the boys for Drag me down...and boys didn't even reply to it...
yes he tweeted
Niall said he cut us off.
@@panneetantinukul5658 well Zayn also said , he tried to contact but some of them blocked him , changed their numbers
Zayn saying he never really talked to Harry in the band belies what we saw on stage as Zayn seemed very into Harry and protective/touchy-feely.
Perhaps, by the time he left, that relationship dissolved, and that's what he was talking about.
@@homejournalistit’s a theory that the 2 of them had a fight and didn’t end on a good note before/when he left, which would contribute to zayn’s vision of their relationship right after when he was still mad and hurt, and the way harry acted in the band when zayn was mentioned after he left.
Ryan truly won my heart for his views about this whole issue. I agree the boys could’ve do smth
When will you guys watch some zayn interviews!????...If you want clear, honest , straightforward answers...You please Listen To ZAYN😇
I think it's likely that management didn't protect Zayne enough from the hate he was dealing with. PR people didn't want to stir up any 'controversy' and expected him to just 'take it' Even his band mates didn't know the extent of it or weren't allowed to speak about it. All members of one direction signed a 'morals clause'. Harry said when he signed the contract for his solo career he cried when he realized he didn't have to sign a morals clause.
Ryan the kind of artist you are describing that you like personality wise is actually ZAYN . He is very clear and vocal about his political views , he always supported his bandmates from everything although he was also in the same contract, he is honest to the core , to this day he has never badmouthed any of his bandmates ( I don't consider him saying I really don't speak to Harry that much as a hate especially when he replying to the question asked although there is no proof in which interview he said that ) . Was sabotaged by big music mafias, they tried to destroy his career completly especially there were articles how Simon Cowell wants to destroy Zayn after he left band till this day ZAYN gets no royalty for his part in one direction but never stopped making music Man you need to check his solo interviews he has done very few compare to other artists but worth watching. He literally never said he hated one direction music in the magazine interview if you read he said " one direction music is genric as eff* and he enjoyed it earlier but not as a 22 yrs old , he is an adult amd wanted to explore the music and experiment with the kind of different musical influences he have growing up including south asian music which he couldn't in one direction" and I think ot was fair enough! His autobiography gave so much insight to his side of story and Zayn wanted people to know he is utterly grateful for his good times and all the fame ,money that came because of being in the band but has his own reasons to move on from it "It didn't even felt concious decision when I left it was like my body didn't allow me to stay more". It was a bestseller in Newyork 2016 but I don't think alot of one direction fan who were angry at him had read it!
There is a UA-camr Max Beaumont he is communicating and personality coach like you guys he has analysed alot of one direction after analysing alot of videos he said I really feel bad for Zayn , you can tell he is clearly suffering from inside and he loves his bandmates wants to interact with them but always gets ignored and interviewers too always ignores him and never ask any questions . His analysis on Louis and Zayn video was spot on if u see it u will know.
Also you guys are really fun to watch I have discovered this channel like a week ago, you guys are almost my father's age so to get a mature perspective on things is really cool. much love ❤
Wait. We’re mature ?
@@WelpHereWeAreOnUA-camYes honest too!
I found it weird when she said Zayn betrayed his bandmates because of u look up to all of their solo interviews they admitted to knowing about hiatus and planning solo career, Harry even admitted in interview that he was the first one to bring hiatus back in 2013 there were rumours too that he was planning his solo career way before and band management was secretly helping him , even Zayn said his leaving statement was made by lawyer of the management and the band members knew he was leaving, because after leaving Zayn went straight to his home and the one direction page out our that statement not in his presence it wasn't from Z's account. So, they all obviously knew.If it was someone else they would have easily triggered by the video especially against Zayn because she literally skipped a lot of his part of the story even in call her daddy podcast Zayn talked fondly about one direction days and just after that part he said at one point they were very close he will always cherish the good times as he looks at it at much fondly than when he just left. And I am new to one direction myself I have actually been freshly digging these things from the past by watching various 1d related content by reactors like u, and og 1d stans.Plus reading and watching all of the members interviews. Zayn recently has healed from one direction days after 8-9 yrs and is much more comfortable talking about it fondly , he has said his 3 yrs old child has changed his perspective on life and u can feel it. I really like your reactions as much as I have seen ❤
That’s why I’m a fan of 5SOS! The boys have supported each other putting out solo albums and individual projects, but have decided they their band will come 1st and continue making music together. No guilt. But, it’s true what you said. 5 SOS basically grew up together and started their own band! A very different dynamic then being put together on a show! Hate what 1D went through because of management though. 😢. ❤
Things she missed mostly what zayn said after:
-In 2014 almost all of zayn's songs were rejected to be put on the album. The reason being that they did not fit "the grain" of what one direction was.
-yes the boys may have been under very strict contracts but as everyone knows harry was publicized as a "sex symbol" at the mere age of 16. And whenever any interviewer or reporter have tried to slam that on him zayn has without taking a breath defended him. There are video proofs. Even other boys. Yes they might be restricted to speak on some topics but that never stopped him so it might be fare of him to expect the same to some level
-he said in an interview he was not allowed to keep a beard, cuz he looked older than the other boys and had to dress a certain way to fit his "character " in the band
-he did want to talk in interviews and be excited just like the other boys but was told to talk less so he could be the mysterious one.
-after he left and boys released drag me down, he congratulated them on tweeter and no one acknowledged that except Liam (atp the only one he was talking to)
-he said there were some pretty bad things said when he was leaving by the boys that he didn't expect.
-he never said 1d songs were shit but just generic pop which was not necessarily his type of music or something he would play if he went out with his gf , which is pretty clear from his solo career and he is now even appreciative of them
-he had no creative input in 1d and would be asked to sing a verse several times untill he sang it as they wanted him to
-zayn was the first to reach out to louis when his mother died.
-he also appreciated their song history in an interview after its release.
-harry asked for hiatus first in 2013 as admitted in an interview but was turned down by the others. It is assumed that only zayn agreed with him, causing a disagreement with the rest of the boys and it happened just before the imterview with the prince hair zayn clip.
-it is believed that louis and niall did not want the hiatus but harry insisted on it and that's the reason they had a fallout
-the racisn and islamophobia was to the point where posters were seen in 1d concerts calling him a terrorist, getting accused of the bombing at ariana's manchester concert, a song on spotify titled 'zayn did 9/11', accused of being a part of isis, being asked racist questions in interviews (like why he had a gun tattooed), being held back at airports for hours while the other boys just went through and many more. After leaving he wore a t shirt saying "I'm not a terrorist please don't arrest me".
-there is a rumored phone call that zayn made to harry at 2 am when he left the band which apparently involved a lot of crying.
with regards to standing up for zayn louis has spoken up about hate zayn was recieving it was during a movie documentary they did in the early day
“Zopiteetaa Putcha Putcha Putchabaa Habaa Habba-Hi…” Zayn said that he and Harry never really spoke but it’s interesting that Zayn has only mentioned Harry by name out of all of the boys in his two most recent sit-down interviews. On that same Call Her Daddy podcast last summer, he described meeting Harry for the first time and reminisced how they sat together during the first round of X-Factor tryouts. And then when Zayn was on Hot Ones about a month ago, he was asked about his worst technical difficulty while performing onstage and he responded with the incident when he had pulled Harry away to prevent him from being burned by the pyrotechnics. Zayn also talked about the band two other times during that Hot Ones interview so it really seems like he’s looking back at that time in the band with more fondness. Nathan, you had mentioned how Zayn was perhaps feeling alienated in the band and interestingly, “Alienated” is the title of his second single from his new album.
It’s a theory that they had a fall out before/when zayn left end they didn’t end on a good note, which would explain their behavior right after, colored by being hurt and mad. Harry during the rest of one direction and zayn on his statement about harry. Hopefully with time the hurt/mad lenses wore off and that’s why he can look at it with a different perspective now years later.
@@ceciliacabrini Well, it seems to be more than a theory ever since 2019 when travel writer Joe Cummings tweeted out that he and Harry had gone out for a hard night of drinking in Bangkok in 2015 after Harry had a falling out with Zayn. (Joe's tweets about it are still up.) Of course, Zayn left the tour just four days later and then officially left the band six days after that. (Lesser known is that Harry went out heavy drinking three nights in a row and Joe only joined him on that second night so it seems like it definitely affected Harry.) So, I agree: I don't think Mr. The-Paperwork-Was-The-Hardest-Part-Of-Zayn-Leaving (Harry) and Mr. I-Never-Spoke-To-Harry-Even-While-In-The-Band (Zayn) left it on good terms at all. I do believe that they were very close and, in my opinion, even planned to leave the band together regardless of what the other three boys wanted to do. Zayn has confirmed in recent interviews that there were indeed interpersonal issues/problems in the band and he decided to leave "to get ahead of the curve" of it all ending after he could see that certain people weren't signing contracts. But yes, it seems pretty clear that Zayn is looking back on his 1D days with more appreciation than when he left and even seems to be at peace with it, to a certain extent. For that, I'm very glad.
its so hilarious to me that niall is never a part of any of the mess ever lol
I think Zayn probably had a really tough time in the group. All of the boys were so young when everything kicked off, and the fandom was so intense that life probably felt wildly out of their control at times. His leaving was probably the right thing at the time. Sucks that things were so dramatic and sad for everyone though. With all due respect, I think fans sometimes feel very entitled to information about their favourite celebrities. They expect them to share vulnerable emotions and articulate and defend them publicly. It’s just not possible, so hurting fans becomes inevitable. Great analysis guys, I appreciate how balanced you are, it’s a breath of fresh air.
That Facebook announcement she talked about wasn't written by Zayn he himself confirmed that himself. He opened up about not having control over anything in the band to the extent he developed an ED bc food was the only thing he could control
I’m not to sure if this is 100% true but there is a big speculation that harry wrote “walking in the wind” about a 2 am call he had with zayn before he left the band. it is said that harry was the first one to know zayn was leaving as he had called him at 2 am in tears saying that he was going to leave. which if you listen to the lyrics of “walking in the wind” it does sorta make sense.
Theres also another rumour thats been around for a while saying that harry was actually the one begging management for a break but was denied over and over again. Theres an interview out there where they seemed uncomfortable which is rumoured have been recorded after an argument the boys had after harry had brought up the hiatus to them which was quickly shut down by the boys as they felt they were at their peak.
I remember going to school the day after the announcement of Zayn leaving, and I was super sad and quiet all day so my friend suggested listening to 1D to cheer me up and I just burst into tears
ZAYN RELEASED A SONG ALIENATED THIS YEAR WHICH U MUST CHECKOUT
It seems you might not know the history well. Naughty Boy was defending Zayn there; it wasn't for the fans. Liam posted on Instagram shading Zayn with a "new fifth member" comment, and Naughty Boy then posted that picture captioning it "replace this." Louis knew exactly what he was doing by jumping in, knowing those Mac filters were Zayn's thing.
👏👏👏 Thank you for that comment. These fan act like their blind and deafth when it comes to Louis.
@@jamiecastronova8282is tiring to see how louis biased most people in that fandom is, specially when they’re usually the ones feeding the information to new people.
And i will reiterate what ive said before. I believe they let the boys go on xfactor so that theyd be heartbroken and when they were given a 'second chance' together as a band, of course they all jumped at it. So Zayn took what he thought was his only chance to build a music career.
Complete contradiction in literally one sentence, "we had absolutely no idea of the racism..." to "we were the biggest defenders", now which one was it. Stated as if Zayn should be grateful, go figure 🙄.
It’s neither. It’s a journey. Go figure
@WelpHereWeAreOnUA-cam I guess if it's neither, then why say it. 🤷 I understand the individual was trying to make a point that you can't help if you don't know something's going on, but then you can't be the staunch defender. At the end of the day, it wasn't the "fandom's" issue to deal with, but should they then get a say in how Zayn dealt with it, I personally didn't like the comments that he betrayed the fans and I still support your analysis of this video ✌️
There should no judgement for this period.
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35: 51 thats also my experience rayen said it
Not a "Directioner", just stumbled here after listening to Zayn's newest album. But, regarding Zayn saying that he "never really spoke to Harry, even in the band," did it ever occur to anyone that he may have been talking about how things were just before he left? Sometimes people reflect on a current situation and forget to give full context to how they are feeling in the moment. He may have had a good relationship with all the boys at one time, but by the time he left, maybe it wasn't that great.
It’s a theory that they had a fall out before/when zayn left end they didn’t end on a good note, which would explain their behavior right after, colored by being hurt and mad. Harry during the rest of one direction and zayn on his statement about harry. Hopefully with time the hurt/mad lenses wore off and that’s why he can look at it with a different perspective now years later.
44:05 no the boys didn't. And yeah i think he meant the boys too
Those few things she showed were not the full scale of Harry/Zayn interactions - they 100% clearly talked, whispered, shared water, touches, laughs, secrets, looks - this statement has to be like you said something said to get the interviewer off his back or to ditract from their closeness. There is also an article where Zayn called Harry his rock as well as that he called Harry at 2am and told him he was leaving before it came out. Lots and lots of evidence that that statement was complete bullshit
someone should reccomend them 5 of the most memorable moments in 1d history by hey angel. Their reactions would be hilarious. Especially to the wanted feud.
i watch her video on tiktok and she get much more engagements there
Must be nice
The part where she said 1D fans didn't know about the racism and Islamophobia Zayn faced is irksome because Bill Maher compared him to the Boston bomber on national television! He was getting death threats from tabloids for saying "Free Palestine" in 2014. There's no way you missed all that. Also this woman never read his book because he didn't say nobody defended him he talked about his own experience without dragging anyone
WHY NOBODY SAID THIS ZAYN & HARRY WAS VERY , VERY , VERY GOOD FRIENDS AND THEY WANT LEFT TOGETHER !
see now that's the problem in zayn's case most of the time.. people just assume him to be the bad guy based on half knowledge from media.. zayn never abused his girlfriend.. even in the case filed against him it was verbal abuse against yolanda (ex-girlfriend gigi's mother).. but yolanda's pr team just posted an article in media that zayn hit her which was later proved to be false.. even in the official complaint against him it's not stated anywhere.. also to give you full context yolanda went to zayn's house to take khai.. she barged into his house and wanted to take her against his will and they got into a fight.. zayn and gigi wanted to hide Khai's face from media till she grows up.. but yolanda wanted clout based on grand daughter.. for 1 full year gigi and zayn managed to hide khai's face.. but somehow papz managed to click khai's face one single day yolanda went out with her..
also zayn got hate for a lot of things and eventually every statement of his turned to be true in a few years...
Please react to Zayn’s hot wings episode
yes please!!!
You do have to keep in mind too, they are still under 1D contracts as far as we know. So I doubt we are even close to knowing the full story.
Louis had several reasons to be the most bitter (rational or not). They had been the close friends but also Louis wrote on the most 1D songs and heavily influenced their later sound. Plus he’d been trying to keep the band together and I’m sure did feel lied to, especially since from what we know he was the leader and the boys generally listened to him.
I do think you’re wrong (well about many things 😂) about them never getting back together. It maybe in a limited way and Zayn may not be there, but I predict like next five years.
You are so wrong.
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Omg I was in 12th grade when I heard from another girl lol it was a terrible moment I thought she was joking until I got on Twitter
The boys were not allowed to talk on political items. Look at Louis friends some are Muslim. Zayn was out so he could say what he liked where as the boys still had their hands tied. At the end of the day, Zayne looked after Zayne because he thought he was better than everyone else. The boys had to follow the rules because of their contract.
Listen to zayns new single Alienated
People seem to have forgotten that Fandom is for the fans. It's our little community, we understand each other's language, when we agree on a topic or when we disagree on a topic.
But when mainstream media or anyone outside of the Fandom try to extract certain instances out of that bubble, it loses all the context attached to it and frankly looks stupid/petty or strange. It's unfair on fans and disrespectful.
1D historian always does a great job of contextualizing these moments in time.
min 24:58 ok you are laughing, but now i'm crying because i haven't seen the Tweet of zayn since a lot. and idk i just started to cry because that tweet still hurt so much (especially because nobody of us expect this reaction from zayn. we were in shock)
Niall is out of any of the controversy!
Yeah... He said "He never really spoke to harry" but he also said "I didn't made a true friend in the band". it's ok for Harry (even if it is not because they seem very close) but for the others?? That was gross, because for sure the boys loved him (or at least and Liam did it and Harry too, they suffered when he left). So it is not an excuse that they were Just bandmate or we don't live with them ecc... especially because you are breaking the heart of all your fans (I honestly prefer to live in a lie instead of know that 5 ppl I thought were brothers weren't really friends and faked to be brothers for 5 years. I think he shouldn't say that, even If it was the truth 🙄😒)
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Zayn is on a PR trip so of course he will mention Harry as Harry has the widest PR scope. Zayn looked out for himself then and is doing so now.
God, I can't wait until you find out the truth. LMAO