Great Scenes: Waltzing Matilda Finale
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- In the 1959 Stanley Kramer film "On the Beach", composer Ernest Gold adapted the music for Waltzing Matilda in a variety of motifs throughout the movie, culminating with a valiant theme as the doomed American submarine crew heads for home. We hear it again as "Taps" in the final apocalyptic scene in the deserted streets of Melbourne, blended with it's ominous companion throughout, the ticking of a watch slowly winding down.
Set five years in "the future" (1964 at the time of it's release), the film tells the story of the survivors of a nuclear war, living out the last months of their lives in Australia, as a cloud of radioactive fallout envelopes the globe. Just three years after the release of this film, we lived through the Cuban Missile Crisis, coming very close to realizing this fictional but prophetic story. Ironically, the stark visual image in the final frame of this film still resonates 50 years later: "There's still time...Brother"
The most haunting and memorable movie scene I have ever witnessed. Played to perfection by Gregory Peck and Ava Gardner. A true masterpiece.
I agree, Lawrence of Seattle,USA
couldn't agree with you more
One of the saddest movies I've ever seen. Shed tears at its end. Saw it when I was very young-- to this day when I hear Waltzing Matilda, without the words, I tear up. My daughter lives in Australia now--- what a great country it is!
The book is even sadder, great actors, fantastic story.
Australia is a mere shadow of its once greatness. I HAD always wanted to see the place before it went crazy woke.
The deserted city hall with the banner (and the statue of the soldier in the foreground) says it all -- "THERE IS STILL TIME...BROTHER." That final scene is one of the most powerful in film history.
Walt ,
Yes it was , the end of civilization ❤️😔🙏omg
I agree because it was also a warning--and a plea--for the world to think and step back from the brink.Ecen today, there is time...
Obviously you never saw Pee Wee's Big Adventure! Action packed!
@@456swagger Totally. haha
Yes Had the sign read.. "There's Still Timex" It wouldn't have had the same effect.
I remember seeing this on tv years ago. This was at the time of the Cold War and I was a very frightened very young teen. It was one of those movies you never forget.
Nice avatar. Uncanny.
The Submarine was HMS Andrew - I served in her in 1950
And I was on the real SSBN-623, USS NATHAN HALE, commissioned in 1963. Nice to meet you, brother.
And I was on the real SSBN-623, USS NATHAN HALE, commissioned in 1963. Nice to meet you, brother.
Thank you for your service, gentlemen.
As ironic as it may seem, Nuclear Assured Destruction has so far, preserved the human race. I think in large part, due to novels such as Neville Shute's 1957 masterpiece 'On the Beach'. An ever present reminder of what we stood to lose, should the un-thinkable happen.
I read Shute's novel in 1967 while in Junior High and it has left a haunting impression on me till this day. It was years later that I learned the novel had been made into the 1959 film.
As good as the film adaptation is...the novel is better.
Though I have had a copy of 'On the Beach' for many decades now, I have never again been able to finish the last few chapters.
1 saw the movie in 1960. I was 13 years old. It had a lasting impact on me even today. Thanks for your service mates.I Served on the USS Barney ddg 6 1967-71.
@@thomasnorton2141 This movie was released for the first time in Austrailia in December 17th, 1959 !!!!
Dated, ... as it is set back in 1964 .... yet not dated, since it is still a possibility. A stellar cast, super acting, haunting music, brooding photographic technique, this film is a classic, at once spine-chilling and heart-wrenching. Anybody who loves great cinema should be sure to to see it.
It really is a timeless film. I gets chills every time I see that final scene.
I'd never call it dated. Dated means one has to understand out-of-date attitudes in the movie in order to appreciate it. I see nothing dated here. You're right: it really is very very great cinema.
What touched me then, in the sixties, was when the song suddenly changed from a pub-song to an opera-singer performance. That changed the romantic scene totally. Beautiful!
I've been thinking of this movie as the coronavirus pandemic unfolds. I realize this is different from the fear of nuclear war, but seeing the deserted streets of Melbourne makes me think of how quiet our cities are at present as we deal with this pandemic.
Very few people are aware that a German Scientist (Eckard Wimmer, and colleagues) synthesized the Polio virus (in 2002) completely from scratch, using building blocks which can be acquired on-line. Apropos...
amhistory.si.edu/polio/virusvaccine/pgenome.htm
That was in 2002. The science of genetic engineering has advanced massively since then -- certainly in China. Anyone who considers the sequence of events that led up to the current global mayhem, can easily see their rationale. They are now sending out delegations of 'experts' to assist every nation on their global domination hit-list in fighting their customized virus.
Although he's right not to raise the issue, I hope Trump (and military advisers) realize that the Coronavirus was not released by accident, as the Chicoms assume everyone believes. Lets face it, nuclear weapons are a very messy and impossible to control 'defense of last resort', and impossible to use without detection. A biological attack can be initiated without any way to prove it was deliberate. Coronavirus is far less toxic than the 1918 flu -- which killed many victims within 24-hours, ultimately numbering 50-million, possibly including Woodrow Wilson. Look at the damage it has done so far? Consider how successfully it has advanced China's Belt & Road economic assault on the Free Word?
I doubt even Nevil Shute could have imagined the reality we are living in today, or what it portends.
Yup, me too.
@@MultiSkyman1 Me too my friends.
Me too. I remember Melbourne in 1959😥
agree.
I saw this movie just the other day, from my Dad's dvd collection. It just really blew me away--the emotion, the music, the story and everything about it. I'm a guy 18 and I find myself really liking these movies of the 1950's and 1960's. Is this weird of me or something? I think my friends would laugh at me for saying I like movies like this. Awhile back I saw "East of Eden" with James Dean in it and I watched it twice back-to-back it impressed me so much.
Not at all! You have great taste !
B&W films by great directors were a real work of art.
The lighting in B&W is often breathtaking, but it's difficult to notice in color because the color is distracting.
I'm a guy 70 and, as a relentless collector of movies of all kinds beginning in the 20th century, I can tell you: all artforms have a life-and-death cycle, and Cinema is one of them. A friend invited me to see a new movie called 'Argyle', and I sat through it.Sadly I came away realizing the Cinema we all loved is slipping slowly away, in favor of computer generated techno-garbage.
This is the saddest most melancholy scene in a movie I have ever seen- still makes me cry- !!!!! They will never see each other again in this life - getting too close to home now !
Its true. Unfortunately, I suspect the apocalypse we've got coming won't be as quick and painless as it would have been back then.
Beautiful and surrealistic scene at 2:49, with the sunlight reflecting on the waves in the background while Peck and Ava Gardner embrace.
To be picky, they all look a bit too chipper, by that stage they were all suffering from radiation sickness and running at both ends. I suppose that might have spoiled the moment, though.
I'd always wanted a first edition of this, finally got one today. Amazing book and brilliant movie. Soberingly beautiful.
How apt is this film now.
One of the few moments in any film that truly live up to the word "devastating."
I liked the way Peck took a look at the Sun before submerging.
he looks up at the sun... as if it will be the last time... great film making..
It made no sense for him to leave her behind.
It would be the last time he would see the sun, he was taking his submarine out to scuttle (sink) it
@@markwatson3135 They were heading home.. this and the remake are two of the most troubling movies I've ever seen
Three years later in 62 this almost happened... Vile Reds
Exactly 😔😔😔🙏🙏🙏❤️
ONE GREAT MOVIE!
Peck staring up at the sun, probably one of the last times, is heavy.
It seems we're hell-bent on making this come true.
That was Capt. Towers' final look at the sun except maybe through a periscope. They can never surface again. In the book, they simply take the boat out past the limit of Australian territorial waters and scuttle, likely by diving below crush depth.
@@LordZontar I need to read the novel sometime. I've heard good things about it my whole adult life.
@@wilsonbelle6600 The book explains that it was cobalt-laced weapons that were used in the War, and that nuclear proliferation had gotten so out of control in the years leading up to it that even countries like Egypt and Turkey had arsenals and it was from one of them that the War began. Cobalt bombs used by the thousand-fold would produce the kind of long-term world-killing fallout that is the premise of the novel and movie. Those were being seriously discussed at the time but fortunately in our world, although there was never any formal agreement, nobody was actually stupid enough to go ahead and build the damn things.
I felt so awful for the young married couple. They knew happiness and joy for such a short time. I can relate. I lost my eternal true love (My Barbra Rose) to cancer after only two years of marriage. I'm sure others can relate, as well. May Christ keep us all.
NO Christ will NOT keep us - either because we dont deserve it or because he's incompetent
@@loppux Yes, He will, if you repent and believe.
@@loppux a wicked and evil troll. The comment deserved sympathy but SOMEONE had to show not just their inability to sympathize, but their need to attack. Pathetic.
The most perfect love is that that does not last. Cherish your memories together. Not easy when you know it’s the one and only
would never of chosen this film to watch, i was forced one night at work and i now cannot get it out of my head with current situation in the world. superb movie
If you google the film "On the Beach" there's an interesting back-story surrounding the selection of WM as the musical center of the film. Ernest Gold really wanted to do an original score, but the director insisted that he use it (some would say too much). It's really the only orchestral version I know of, and beautifully rendered by Gold. The ending of this film is one of the most poingniant I know of, due mostly to the beautiful scoring of this great ballad.
@Aussie Cockatoo You got that right. With all due respect to Aussie culture [which I love], the worst one was the "choir of drunks" on the fishing trip. If the director felt he had to include a drunken version, I would have preferred "We All Shagged Matilda". But then, I don't know if those lyrics were around in 1959 !;)
Definitely way overused.
If want to hear a new orchestral version, Civ 6 has a great one: ua-cam.com/video/oNoy6AJ3-HY/v-deo.html
Similar to Casablanca. Max Steiner hated "As Time Goes By" and kept insisting he could write a much better love song. Nope Max, we're going with "As Time Goes By". So Steiner saturated his score with themes from the song and the result was pretty darn close to perfection.
@@bradwilliams7683 Your opinion, not mine. :)
The last scene of the deserted city and the final shot of the “there is still time” banner were very powerful.
Never forget: We are all on the beach.
No the beaches were closed.
Scared the hell outa me when I was 5, never forgot it and his long last look at the sky he will never see again, and the song what a movie and what a prophetic tale we may yet come to this
The most emotional and sad movie ending of all time !!!
Just for the record, I need to remind people that this is not the actual ending of the film in the movie. The person who posted this clip removed the depressing 'infanticide scene' in order to allow viewers to experience the dramatic denouement of the 'Dwight & Moira' story without interruption, leading to the finale shot of the deserted 'town square' in Melbourne. (IMHO, this ending is far better than the one in the film.)
@@tbthomas5117 Very true. Donna Anderson was the weakest link in this movie. Deleting nearly any scene with her improves it.
Absolutely , I’m crying right now watching this . Ava Gardner was so beautiful , Gregory peck was an amazing actor. At least in the remake the 2 main actors get together. Wow what a movie .
Feels like that today sometimes
With the pandemic.❤️😔🙏
I own this movie and it tears me up every time I watch it. I think the kiss in the cabin is the very best kiss in all of Hollywood.
Saw this when I was 6 years old, understood it even at that age, stayed with me, same with Paths of Glory.
Since this clip is about the music, I left out the final scene with Tony Perkins persuading "Mary" (Donna Anderson) to "drink the tea". (It follows the Peck/Gardner romantic farewell at the dock in the film.) IMHO, that scene interrupts the flow of the ending in a very uncomfortable way, and I wonder if Stanley Kramer ever considered cutting it. Best moment for me is when Gregory Peck takes a last look at the sky before closing the hatch and the boat submerges. A great film any way you cut it.
I can't help but cry every time I hear this score. Powerful movie. And... Gregory Peck
Quality movie with an all star cast with a deep dark message of impending doom for us all.
Good points. Since the purpose of my remix was to focus on the music, I excluded the Peter and Mary scene. I think that scene was perhaps a little overwrought. The "Admiral and Osgood" scene accomplished more or less the same purpose, as well the "Fred Astaire Garage" scene. But the best of all (IMHO) was the Door Man at the private club playing a final round of pool at a table off limits to him for most of his life. A bit long, but all in all, a gem of a film.
This movie leaves me weeping seeing it again each time. So powerful.
When I was a kid, I watched this movie from beginning to end........and it left me with nightmares for nearly a week! The very end with Melbourne a ghost city seemed scary, the most poignant scene was a lonely tram on a totally deserted street. Then the blast of music, the empty park......then black. This movie sends a clear message to me that even today, with North Korea, Al Quaeda & others with an all destroying mindset can still destroy us. And it's up to all of us to let the nations know th
It’s very good that you are afraid of and hate representatives of Western civilization during this time we have matured and acquired more powerful weapons as an example of Borey, but my enemies are our motto for our strategic missile forces AFTER US SILENCE A book on which two films were shot, one in 1959 and the second in 2000 good and wonderful films
Ok man stfu why do you have to go deep
I had the same response when I was a kid.
I used to think that the ending of Spartacus was the saddest of all time but I was wrong, it's definitely this. At least in Spartacus there was hope whereas in this there is none. Just a Captain and his love forgoing their last fleeting moments of happiness in a doomed world due to loyalty to his men.
I cant remember anyone bringing up this point before, even though I've always felt it was one of the most powerful elements of the story told by this film. Thanks for putting it on the thread.
Navy till his last breath.
Although it is so very depressing, I loved this movie. still good after 60 years...If you know anything about Waltzing Matilda and it's connection with the Marines, especially those at Guadalcanal, of which my dad was one...every time it plays it is emotional.
"On the Beach" was a powerful movie in its time. The music matched it perfectly.
This movie, certainly, still has relevancy today. Maybe, even more so. I miss Ava,
for she was my sweetheart for many years. Each evening when I sit by the ocean,
my thoughts return to past good movies. Slowly, the actor's images are not so clear and in focus, but. Ava is always there, as beautiful as ever.
Какой трогательный коментарий.Ава Гарднер красавица на века!
3:30 - 4:25ish -- When Gardner is on the bluff watching the submarine leave, I fucking lost it. Anyone else?
What did you fuck and lose?
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I'm not going to explain American slang to you -- do your own homework.
ragemanchoo82 I agree with you. OTB had many moving scenes and this ending brought my mom to tears every time she saw it. A five-star movie!
OMG sobbing !
Yep totally that song waltzing Matilda and the men going home to die and Ava knowing she too will soon perish too much , too much. I watched that film in 1966 I was 14 nuclear war was a real threat then
Just returned from Australia, and the movie was with me throughout the trip. Impactful stuff that I first saw in college. It never left me. I get choked up every time I see the skipper on the sail for the final time, national ensign flying bravely in the wind and the ever-haunting symphonic rendition of Waltzing Matilda in the background. Greg Peck was a wonderful actor and an even better human being. We won't see his like again soon.
"We won't see his like..."... EVER
Great movie
I saw this movie when I was eight years old, until that time I was so blissfully unaware that mankind had the weapons to totally destroy the world. This film crushed me, and a large piece of innocence died for ever with this closing scene.
+oz1902 - People have forgotten what a dangerous time that was, and still is, as long as the superpowers have stockpiles of nukes. The threat of ISIS or North Korea is nothing compared to the hundreds of bullseyes in the cold war times.
But ISIS or North Korea could be the flashpoint for a thermonuclear war between the U.S. and Russia. How did the "war" in On The Beach begin? Nuclear proliferation. What's going on today? Exactly THAT!
While it's certain that mankind will not perish in WW III, there's a good chance that Western Civilzation will. Tens or hundreds of millions dead is hardly a sign that things have improved since 1959.
@@lonebeagle положение ухудшилось!
There is another scene in the film, at a hotel, where the characters all sing Waltzing Matilda... very moving
Yes, I remember it well. Thanks for the reminder. I so like the arrangement of Waltzing Matilda; the orchestra was magnificent.
I keep coming back and getting the same choking up myself, every time. It's been quite a few (!) years since I watched the whole movie and I'm not sure now that I could handle that now.
You get older, your priorities change.
This makes me cry so much !
Thanks for the post. More people need to see this film. It's perhaps more compelling today than it was in 1959. (Caveat, today, we may have already run past the tipping point...)
One of the greatest scenes in film. Minimal dialog. 😍
Almost thirty years later, we saw the true horrors of what happens when nuclear energy is mishandled. There are videos of the city of Pripyat following the Chernobyl disaster and evacuation, and it's eerie seeing the undamaged buildings from 1986 and the condition the city is in now (which is what Melbourne would probably look like thirty years after this movie takes place). This film, and the city of Pripyat in real life, are reminders of nuclear power gone horribly wrong.
The city is eerie, but the birth deformities and other suffering due to all that is even eerier.
We were in Germany during Chernobyl. When my wife called her mother in LA to let her know we were okay, she wanted us to leave. I reminded her mother of the several hundred nuclear weapons tests in the United States, spreading radioactive fallout nationwide. We were probably safer there than here. The United States has already had a nuclear war, by our own government.
The most shocking thing is right at very end it still gives my goose pumps even now.
Me too !!
Yes, when I first read the book I found it profoundly upsetting. This scene is right up there with the end of 'A Night To Remember' when the passengers on the Titanic sing 'Nearer My God To Thee'.
If you haven't seen the 1952(?) "Titanic" with Clifton Webb & Barbara Stanwick, its one of the best too.
Omg absolutely, I totally lose it at the end . Wow major tears .❤️🙏
Tears still to my eyes when seeing this movie. What emotions will be felt if the
world faces a real annihilation. Will the Good Lord come? Too profound to think about.
I believe that God will intervene to save humanity from itself.
My old Austin Healey lives again!
Their last goodbye really is EVERY last goodbye ...
Dorothy Maher, Final and forever.
Gregory Peck, the perfect man !
I like the way he just tosses the screwdriver away.
remember seeing ths move at the Union Theater in Attleboro, Ma
It is so powerful to see the abandon streets just like now durng this pandemic
The movie is great but the book ending is so much better than the censored movie ending
Always. Hollywood is nothing but propaganda.
I love this movie even though it is so depressing. I know people have said it's silly (for instance, the idea of moving up the fishing season with the end of the world coming). I love the book too and to me, Nevil Shute showed that his characters retained their infrastructure instead of descending into chaos and anarchy (a la World War Z, for example) because until it truly was hopeless, they retained their hopes that everything would turn out all right. I think that is what makes it so sad.
What would be silly moving up the fishing season if you knew the world's was coming to an end? Neville Shutte was Conservative by nature and so the thought of anarchy in any form whatsoever, even as exceptional as the end of world would be, would of appalled him.
@@Professor6871 in the film, it takes the end of the world to remind people of how we should live anyway: there is no hope, no tomorrow, no rescue, no God, there are no chosen people, there’s just us, alone in the universe, in the here and now. It’s a sobering reality, but it’s one that reminds us that our world and everything in it is precious but vulnerable, and that the only thing that matters is that we look after it and each other.
@@markofsaltburn This sounds like everything is useless, all struggle is useless and we face a hopeless future! I still have hope and believe life has a purpose.
In the book, the sub crew doesn't go back to America, but chooses to sink the sub with all hands on board. In a way, I like the movie version better, as they go back to America to accept their inevitable fate.
V emotional.... Waltzing Matilda in the background....
Stanley Kramer has 3 great movies. On theBeach. Judgment at Nuremberg. It's a Mad Mad World. The Scene with Ava and Greg is unsurpassable ! Waltzing' Matilda
Such a great film, fantastic storyline.
Waltzing matilda playing in the background.
The scene where the dwight looks at the sun in the Mornington peninsula(not to far from where harold holt drowned) they tried to make another but will never be as good as the original.
Its about time we had another good movie warning us about the possible end of mankind
We have it on the news every day now.
I've seen quite a few of these movies and they are depressing and bleak. We've gone back to the dystopian, nihilistic genre movies of the 1970s, which are now a reflection of a generation that feels lost, hopeless and sees no future.
This film should be a must see for it's cinematic majesty by Stanley Kramer alone....fabulous film
This was a great movie with an all star cast. Love the clip you choose!!
I was in second??? grade when the film came out. I remember the music teacher wheeling the piano into our classroom and teaching us all to sing Waltzing Matilda. The song has never left me.
A wonderful motion picture. Wonderful renditions/arrangements of Waltzing Matilda. This story was presented in a serious, realistic manner by a terrific cast. And Ava Gardner was the most incredible woman, the most beautiful animal in the world. This film was a fine achievement.
One of the most depressing movies I've ever seen. The sub sailing away, while Ava watched from the shore, all to the tune Waltzing Matilda. OMG!
I remember my older sister told me that this movie made her cry. I was 14 at the time and it made me very sad to her this as she was 13 years older than me and I felt she knew more than me and I cried too!
@mrernestomd She's a looker. My father in law went to school with her in the sleepy little town of Rock Ridge, NC. where they were born. He said she was better with a mule and could out plow any of the boys around, but they had to teach her to walk in shoes before she could learn to walk in heels.
Love. Gregory. Peck
Any film with Gregory Peck was great.
I finished the book again, last night. Some changes made in the film, as expected.
I'd like to see it again, just for Peck and Gardner.
Saddest movie I've ever seen. But it's a great movie.
This film came back to me today. I was 13 and saw it on television.
awesome!
COSMOTOPPER777: I agree. That last look skywards by Gregory Peck is quite the most heartbreaking scene I have ever seen (Ava Gardner looking out from the cliff is great too)!
Thank you for the clip!
Prorocze. Niestety. ...
His last look at the sun bookends his arrival in Australia. He makes the same gesture as he leaves the conning tower. A special actor given exceptional direction. One of my favorite, see-it-again films of all time. And, at 81, that encompasses of lot of cinema.
Fantastic movie... Waltzing Matilda played throughout I think made this.
This is the most fucking depressing movie I've ever seen. I couldn't stop crying for over an hour after it was over. It still has significance and so much feeling. Really fantastic film, but, god, did it gut me.
Send it to DC asap - they need it now.
Putin needs it more
Amazing movie.
I saw it in 1959 when it first came out. And that song was never the same for me after that.
The most touching thing about this film, and something other critics miss, is that the characters did their duty to the end and died with dignity. This is especially true of the officers and sailors, whose actions and behavior were keeping with the highest traditions of the United States Navy and Her Majesty's Royal Australian Navy. One might think that the orderly way life ended was parody, but I do not think that is the case, as the director has too much sympathy and respect for the characters to mock them.
Greatest Story of our Day. Love blighted by Greed and Fear.
Fred Astaire going out like a man with a smile on his face is permanently etched in my psyche.
What a stunning ending...and not unbelievable...
I don't live too far from San Francisco and have been on, over, AND under the Golden Gate Bridge.
Being stationed at Alameda for a while brought this movie into focus after quite a while. One cannot help but recreating the Sawfish coming into the Bay - eerily quiet and going under the Bridge - it leaves you very cold. Then reality sort of sets in when you hear things (including cars going about) and realize all is still with us...but that scene is most disturbing with everything intact but no people.
I could be in a very hot oven and catch cold just by thinking of this coda of humanity.
The book is much more telling...
A moving film, the book is even better
Eva Gardener was a beautiful woman.
Agree. spelled Ava.
we are seeing similar scenes around the world today ???!!! unbeleivable days
I saw this on TV in the early 1960s and the final shots of the deserted, dead city affected me profoundly - I still to this day am fascinated by the idea of things being left behind if all the people somehow disappeared. I remember asking my parents that since all the people had died, would all the other animals and plants die too? Of course they didn't know.
Long live Australia...
I liked the ending of the tv movie better, where the commander (played by Armand Assante) chose to be left behind, so the ending was him suddenly arriving at that cliff to be with Moira (Rachel Ward).
I never saw the TV movie, but with all due respect, that ending is no surprise. In my view, if there's a single line in the original film which sums up what the whole story is about, this is it:
"The men want to try to get home...I can't explain."
(Just my take on it. Thanks for posting your comment.)
COSMOTOPPER777 I just liked the idea of both of them having each other as they died, like I'd want to have someone with me when I die. I hated the thought of Moira dying all alone.
+Cris Guia I prefer this version - more poetic.
***** I guess so. And it's the original from the book or so I heard. I haven't read it yet.
The TV movie, was good, but in my opinion overdone. It did not have that subtle originality of the 1959 film, and was rather a departure from the novel by Nevil Shute.
We're back.
Not many films in the 50's had such a bleak ending. Usually they would arrange for a duex ex machina to save everything at the last moment.
"It's been everything...." wow I cannot imagine being such a slave to duty as to be able to leave and board the sub. Definitely one of the best movies ever. So sad we're racing headlong towards something of this nature in real life, whether it's war, or ecological devastation, it's coming
Is the human race capable of destroying ourselves,i agree with you we are in dangerous times
Conservativism, Religion and conspiracy is our times greatest threat. We must not fail in our belief in Science and we must resist conservative and religious bullshit till the bitter end.
@@griddy922 The problem is that people rely on science as a religion, also. People are terrified to hear any other point of view, but what a few considered experts say. Science can be abused just like religion, conservatism, liberalism, or any other belief system when combined with blind faith. Question everything and research opposing points of view with an open mind. You might come back to the same answer, but at least you were open to different perspectives on a subject.
This is one sick thread. Duty to others is always a higher calling than fulfilling one's desire.
brutal....... thanks for posting this!
In the book, she takes a poison capsule after she watches the submarine leave the harbor. Very, very depressing stuff.
Sorry I missed your comment 3 years ago. Very interesting detail (I never read the book, I was 7 years old when this movie came out). I'm curious: which did you enjoy more, the book or the film?
Another difference is that in the novel, Dwight isn't trying to take the submarine home - he's not deluded enough to think that's possible. Instead, he plans to take the submarine outside Australian territorial waters and scuttle it with all hands on board - this being in line with US Navy tradition, which is not to leave a warship abandoned in a foreign port. It's a key part of Dwight's character that he behaves correctly as a Navy officer at all times - his way of staying sane.
@@greedycapitalist8590 True, but certainly they have enough food to make it back to LA or San Francisco.
@@Schrankerle The problem is that if people in Melbourne are starting to die, then the crew have already certainly been exposed to a lethal accumulated dose of radiation. There's no way they'd be able to stay healthy enough to operate the subnmarine for the time it's going to take to cross the Pacific.
@@greedycapitalist8590 One thing I kept on wondering about in the film is the radiation produced by the nuclear bombs. Would all that ash have been rained out of the atmosphere before it travelled to the southern hemisphere? And would high altitude winds have dispersed the dust over time, with the radiation levels actually falling over time? What about the nuclear winter? Also, San Francisco would have been destroyed in a nuclear war, as it would have been a population centre. But I guess the film's blunt message and warning would have lost its power had those points been included. Personally, in a real life scenario, I'd also like to think that no sensible government would approve of the mass suicide of its citizens, which is an aspect of this movie I found deeply disturbing.
@COSMOTOPPER777
Bravo, you!
A haunting film. Thanks for letting it stand on its own merit.
I first saw this movie as a child and felt very sad then but maybe enough people have seen it that it gave them pause. I hope so.
To Michael Quinn: Same here. I'm 3 years older than you. It would show up on the Million Dollar Movie every night and I had to watch. My Dad got pissed. Morbid fascination. To this day it haunts me and others I'm sure. My son and I have batted around "There's still time brother" for years. At least in the story, they got the "pills." We won't be so lucky.
Powerful ending to a frightening movie. After viewing it as a kid in the 60s, I had trouble sleeping. After the "false alarm" of an incoming ICBM in Hawaii this morning (1-13-18), I know I will have trouble sleeping...again. "There is still time Brother."
The failure of the big-3 (US, Russia & China) to decisively prohibit proliferation of nuclear weapons, has all but guaranteed that a nuclear exchange will take place sometime this century, albeit, probably not between any of them (us). The most likely scenario at the moment would be Iran vs. Israel. However, as the world population continues to expand, natural resources become depleted, and the possibility of a sudden rise in sea-levels due to an event either in the Arctic (the rupture of a sub-surface aquifer in the Greenland ice-sheet for example), or the fracturing of a large block of land-ice in the Antarctic) increases, the displacement of any large number of human beings could be the trigger.
With all our technological advances, our inability to come to terms with the fact that this planet can only sustain a limited number of human beings over the intermediate/long-term, may ultimately be our undoing. There is still time to confront the difficult issues which will determine that outcome, but solving them would literally require a global consensus contradicting fundamental elements of human nature: the need to procreate, the need to obtain and hold private property, and worst of all, the intuitive desire to 'live indefinitely' (an option which will emerge as our medical science continues to advance), its hard to believe our current political institutions are capable of turning quickly enough.
Hence, short of total annihilation, a 'medium sized nuclear war' that wipes out half of the human beings on Earth in a few days, might shock the survivors into embracing a more rational paradigm for peaceful co-existence. (But I doubt it.)
What people often overlook about this film is that it is not a warning about nuclear weapons, rather it is a fable, intended to remind us of the dangers that come bundled with the hubris which defines us. Looking back with 60 years hindsight, the irony of what has actually played out since then is excruciating:
Back then, the prevailing 'wisdom' (from the Liberals at least) was that nuclear weapons had to be abolished for the sake of "Peace on Earth". In fact, nuclear weapons have been decisively responsible for a golden-age of peace, prosperity, and achievement by mankind, with no precedent in our recorded history. In 1939, there were slightly less than 2-billion of us, attempting to share the limited resources of this planet. Since then, that number has quadrupled, and our global standards of living, and prevalence of mostly free people, increased exponentially.
In spite of that enormous success, we find ourselves in the here and now, facing a multitude of threats to our survival, all of our own making, most of which are unknown or ignored by the vast majority of us. And all of them are a consequence of the same few common-denominators of human-nature which have defined us from our beginnings: greed, arrogance, selfishness, indolence -- and above all hypocrisy, our limitless capacity to lie to ourselves about who we are and what we're about.
I don't wish to leave the impression that I have a low opinion of the human race. I don't. I just recognize that we are our own worst enemy -- and given the rather boring, clockwork nature of the Universe as it was before we came along, I think it would behoove us to try and learn from our success, rather than allowing it to destroy us (just a couple of million years since we arrived !;).
In a nutshell: shit has quadrupled and now covet the same layer creme de la creme have achieved - not by chance but hundreds of years of hard work and progress. In the meantime killing each other for whatever reasons by millions and millions and then some...
3:40 onward, anyone else break down and cry?
I always do !
I did major crying ❤️😔🙏
The streets of Melbourne have been exactly like this in recent weeks!
and Philadelphia PA USA too. It looks like the end of the world But it is so that we can go on living