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I swear, if I was still in college I could have written so many papers about this episode. The themes, the framing, the parallels between Mizu and the Onryō. No episode of TV had left me as speechless as this one has in ages…
You can still write those papers. There’s no rule that literary analysis has to be confined to an academic venue. Arguably, there is greater value to writing something out of personal interest, rather than for a grade.
Oh, I was cooking up some gender studies shit in my head after watching. How Mizu at times is the samurai, the wife, and the onryo in the story is saying some stuff about expressions of masculinity and femininity; gender code switching being a big one.
I wish he had been killed, just because it's so common for women to be fridged in order to motivate male characters, so it would've been refreshing to finally see a guy be fridged as a motivation for a female character as to why she can't forget her path. But what we got was super interesting too.
@@freeverse4304 Oh there is a lot on the topic. Role reversal, expectations, double standards. It was such a great writing choice that Mizu had to pretend to be a boy, because it plays off so many expectations in society. Even the writing itself plays off of this, with Madame Kaji saying that Mizu is more "man" than anyone else who entered her brothel.
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I actually love that they don’t tell you who it was. In the end it doesn’t matter, the point is that one of them betrayed her and that’s enough to set her on the path.
Right, it's like it no longer mattered. In her eyes, it was proof enough that the life she was trying to live failed. It was enough for her to realize that she was wrong to choose that path. Maybe before she was committed, afterwards she was dedicated, even obsessed.
I love the show but this episode I didn’t like the ending, I just don’t believe the husband would turn on her for such a little thing… he is fine with her problematic mother, he is fine that she is a mixed race ‘demon’ but she’s just a little too good with a melee weapon and all of a sudden he thinks she is a monster? He is literally ready to turn her over to the authorities because she wielded a sword…. He forfeits the love he has developed for her because she is a master swordsman? Really? It was the first moment in the show I felt the writing REALLY made no sense.
@@corvus2512 Never underestimate what a man's bruised ego will do, especially in that era. Also, it wasn't necessarily him. Whether it was him or her mother is deliberately left unanswered.
One thing I love about this episode is that nobody can say for sure 100% whether the mother or the husband was lying. Reactors and commenters have so many different interpretations of the truth of what happened but I think the show is trying to say it ultimately does not matter, as Mizu was always fated to go back to her revenge. Her walking away without looking back while the person she started her revenge for gets killed is so powerful.
Yeah I didn’t realize why she went back for revenge but I think it’s part she wants a reason to go back to what she is good at. Swordplay and killing. She hates being called a monster and it’s due to the way she was born so maybe it’s payback for creating her. She really internalized her discrimination
I think they both betrayed her, none of them came out to help her. Mikio knew what time it was and left her to die only to come after she massacred everyone because he knew he was next so he decided to play innocent to survive. Same with the mother, her money ran out and knew Mizu had a bounty on her head. I want to believe that Mikio was innocent but no, if he truly loved her, he wouldn't have ran away.
I'm team 'mom' did it. Drug addicts will do what they have to for their fix. Hubby was for sure covering his coward ass, and the whole 'knifing maybe mom while the unstable killing machine slowly walks away' was a really bad fucking idea.
@thrasherthetic I'm team Mikio did it tbh cause the "mom" had a bunch of times to turn Mizu in for a bounty all through out her childhood but never did, she could've done it when Mizu found her again, bleeding out and all that but still didn't. She has alot more credibility in Mizu's life than the husband who really wanted to be back in his lord's graces :/
I initially didn’t think it was fair for Ringo or Akemi to expect Mizu’s help defying Tokunobu’s men BUT Akemi did help Mizu at a critical point; otherwise she woulda been throttled to death
On one hand yes she did risk a lot to come in clutch for Mizu, but saving Mizu was also their only hope to survive, so it wasn't exactly selfless. At the same time there's a difference between asking for the help, and expecting/commanding it.
The worst part of the present day events for me, is that it makes Kinuyo's death in the previous episode completely futile. Madam Kaji asked her to be euthanised because she feared that Boss Hamata and the Thousand Claws were too powerful. Now, the Thousand Claws are destroyed, Boss Hamata is dead at the hands of those he tormented, and Kinuyo died for nothing.
@@mem5860 Well I think attack on titan is so great that it can't even be compared on the same level as these series especially since it has a lot more episodes and build up
Watched the full reaction already and still up in here. great show to react to because every episode is a massive escalation. It is really damned good.
I don't excuse him, but let's not totally ignore what she did either. It's like the Atom Eve special and her friend when she is using her powers and scaring her off. She literally mocked him asking if he lost his manliness, a sore spot for him, and then despite him asking her to stop multiple times kept attacking him and then even putting a blade to his throat. He was a guy that lost everything, his honor, his pride, and then here comes his wife saying, "What's wrong? Not man enough to use a real blade?" and then beats him and ignores his plea. The main issue is that because he was so low, he didn't really love her, he loved the idea of finally having something beneath him again. Something to protect and have power over. Once he realized that even at home he was the one on the bottom he threw a tantrum to show that he was the one in charge. But, given time, he could have maybe truly loved her. However that's the issue, in order for him to love her she would have to be "submissive" and "meek" a lot longer and hide herself in order to be loved. It's a parallel to Akemi and how her attendant told her to use her femininity and lilt her voice to get her way, to game the system. But that's not what Mizu wants, Mizu doesn't want to act like she doesn't have power in order to play the woman's game in a patriarchy when she KNOWS she's strong. That's not who she is, and she shouldn't have to. She played that game for a little while, pretending to not know how to toss a knife. Pretending to be weaker than him. And he loved it, ate it up. And she did it for a long time. When she finally thought she could start showing her true self, bam. So after he betrayed her by running away, and then even tried to rub in her face that he can sell her gift any time because he's the boss, she's like, "bye, good luck with life", and when he didn't take no for an answer and kept trying to follow her she killed him with the same knife toss skill he laughed at her before, like, "ha, look at the girl trying to toss a knife, she's cute hahaha". No more pretending. *Lightning fast accurate knife toss kills him*.
The detail people are missing is the fact that during the “sparring” she was enjoying the violence. Not only that she was getting turned on by it. The idea of taking a life was an aphrodisiac. That scene was in my opinion a way to show the monster she had become.
On your comment about a child idealizing an absent parent, Blood Meridian by Cormac McCarthy has an interesting parable about a man who dies and the impact on his child: “Now the son whose father's existance in this world is historical and speculative even before the son has entered it in a bad way. All his life he carries before him the idol of a perfection to which he can never attain. The father dead has euchered his son of his patrimony. For it is the death of the father to which the son is entitled and to which he is heir, more than his goods.He will not hear of the small mean ways that tempered the man in life. He will not see him struggling in follies of his own devising. No. The world which he inherits bears him false witness. He is broken before a frozen god and he will never find his way.”
Sean and the Tanktop Crew: Discussing the amazing cinematography, brilliant narrative framing devices, and heart-rending character moments that put into perspective the tragedy of Mizu's life that drove her down this path of vengeance. Also Sean and the Tanktop Crew: Inserting sex jokes and mood-destroying cutaway gags that make me howl with laughter. That music gag edit at 41:26 with "Mother-in-Law" caught me completely off guard and I now I can't think about that tragic moment without suppressing a laugh.
I binge watched the whole season in 2 days with my parents and now I've persuaded most of my work place to watch it and we spend most lunchtimes discussing how great it is. It's been picked up for season 2 so it's really popular
I couldn’t wait for you to watch this episode!! To me the writing and execution was amazing, near perfect. I can’t think of ANY episode of TV that tops it.
I've commented this probably one too many times but this show just grabbed me by the soul from episode one and I didn't land back into reality until I finished it in one massive binge and it left me completely scarred. So when I saw you guys started watching this show I was really excited to see your reactions to this episode specifically. Especially with the impact from episode 4 right before... This was very entertaining and your sincere reactions were a joy to watch. On a side note, Morgan, I love you, you are absolutely adorable and I adore your style. Looking forward to your reactions for episode 7!!
i’d been saving these to binge and i gave up today 🤣 LOVE LOVE LOVE these reactions and the discussion at the end. i watched this show on a whim after a booktuber i watch randomly made a video about it. beyond glad i did. that being said, it’s been hard for me to get people in my life to pick it up. so happy to see channels i love appreciating it as much as i do. ❤️ on to episode 6!
Absolutely the best show and episode of 2023 hands down. I feel genuinely sorry for folks who trivialize the animated medium as "for kids", because they absolutely missed this masterful piece of art.
Your guyses reaction was simliar to mine. Just blown the fuck away by incredible artisty. No words. I cried. This episode made me tear up a lot from just how well executed it was. At what good art it was. Mindblowing.
Turned to my wife after this one and simply said, "That's some good shit." What a flex of a Netflix episode, hitting all the feels like the best bits of Arcane and Haunting of Hill House.
I still think it was toxic masculinity, he was fine with her riding horses and carrying stuff and wanted to see her skills with a sword, until it turned out she was way stronger than him. In his mind, it was fine if she 'played around' with a sword, but if she out skilled him, he was threatened. You see it even before the blades were unsheathed, he starts looking apprehensive as soon as she starts letting loose her skills.
I think that people that thinks it's just toxic masculinity are over simplifying his character, he was fine with her experimenting and even being better than him, she did a better job with the horse than he ever did and it's implied he had been trying for a long time to train it, he didn't mind nor did it hurt his pride. But what she did on that fight was Kind of messed up, he was ok for the first half of the combat, but mizu started teasing and questioning his character, unnecessarily beating his ass and then put a LITERAL kn*fe on his neck. I would be scared of my wife too if she did that to me, maybe not throw her under the bus, but I'm sure as sh*t that if a tell a normal person that my wife hold a kn*fe against my neck they wouldn't ask me to "communicate" or that if I'm scared of her or think she is crazy it means I have "toxic and fragile masculinity".
I don’t think Mikio came back for the love…If he truly loved her, he would have tried to understand since the beginning, and didn’t run away when she looked at him with hope.
One thing that's important is when you are in your 20's and finding yourself and finding people, masking is important to like, attract and find commonality and acceptance. But so is the desire to see who people are without that mask, and to be able to be free to remove that masking around those you love. And it's totally valid for people to be like, "you know what, I'm not into that." But at the same time people should be ready to adapt their expectations when they look to see someone below the mask. In any case, ideally you figure that stuff out before you're married and finding a life together.
If I had a nickel for every time a flashback episode that came out in 2023 was the best of the season, I'd have two nickels, which isn't much but it's weird that it happened twice
I had this show on the backburner for awhile and I'm going back to check out reactions and yeah this episode was crazy, one of the best episodes of TV I've seen in a long time, this really elevated my impression of what this show could be. I have to apologize to blue eye samurai, I wasn't familiar with your game.
The husband WAS toxic. He only wanted to stop during the fight because he was clearly threatened by Mizu's power. He thought she wasn't going to be that good and he would be able to show his power to a fragile woman and that be that. But when he started to see that she was stronger than him, he wanted to stop all of a sudden. He called her a monster to belittle her and make her feel small because he thought of her as less of a woman, meanwhile, if that was a man he would have respected him and called him a true foe. And, sure, she could have stopped when he asked but he was definitely only doing that because he felt threatened by her power. He said he wanted to see all of her so why would he suddenly ask to stop? (Because he didn't really wanna see all of her). - Also, the mother was living a cushy life off the husband, buying her drugs and stuff, why would she risk that by turning Mizu in? What would be her reason? What would she gain? (There's an argument to be made that she was out of drug money and Mizue had a bounty, but it seems a little less likely). To me, it was *absolutely* the husband who turned her in and that's why he left when the fight started. He only came back at the end to make himself seem innocent so that he could be spared Mizu's rage. Not because he actually was. I thought the puppet show also made that clear. But I also love how the narrative does make it seem like it could be either of them. That's how trash they both were. - Also, this is the best episode of an already outstanding series. Soooo heartbreaking, but it adds so much depth to Mizu!
Counterpoints: Mikio is supposed to be a ‘great samurai’, but his preferred weapon is a naginata; not a dueling weapon or one of [male] stature or prowess… and that might have been simply staging for the present day EXCEPT MIkio is identifiably capable with it… this argues against Mikio being a warrior of the ‘score’, of collecting heads and being an absolute monster… this is not to exclude any [male] pride that might have been wounded, but what if he’s just not that kind of fighter whereas Mizu vowed and trained herself to be? A vengeful spirit who honestly enjoys showing up filthy casuals… and if it were Mikio, why would he wait seemingly a few years to collect the bounty to curry his Daimyo’s favor? Why wouldn’t he just collect on them day 2? Supposing it was the mother, 1) there’s nothing demanding she leaked Mizu’s whereabouts intentionally, because that opium is a helluva drug; 2) from her POV Mizu and Mikio were fine housing her, but not bankrolling her ‘medicine’; 3) or the most likely scenario, her opium dealer squeezed her for the information knowing she was strung out
Ngl I understand milkio didn’t want to fight cause they were fighting with sword unsheathed man! That’s dangerous af. Though I still think mikkio is a bitch cause he pussied out and snitched on her. That’s where I got pissed at him. I feel bad for mizu cause she didn’t fit into that submissive role and got punished.
So I think it’s not a stretch to say that this Episode(hell this Show) should go into the history books of best TV shows of All Time… Is it a stretch to say that?
I think people keep getting it wrong that "it doesn't matter who betrayed her and the point is that she felt like either of them could". It makes it look as if she's this evil force that needed to kill him to go back to being a demon. Like Kylo Ren or something. I think the point is that regardless of whether he turned her in or not, he ran away (getting a sword is a bs excuse, a person who truly loves someone wouldn't abandon them in the middle of a battle like that, he was just scared and ran and then saw her winning and came back), and that's even after selling her horse just out of spite. So either way he betrayed her, showed she couldn't be herself because he only loved her when he felt she needed him and he was the boss. The mom is then even making fun of her being betrayed and obviously was just using her too. So at the end who turned her in doesn't matter because they've both have already betrayed her.
Akemi and Ringo need to climb off that high horse. Telling mizu to "get em" as if she didnt just Fight the fuckin Crazy 88 after almost bleeding out. Like why SHOULD she stop em?! They aint friends. Akemi was rude as hell till she needed help.
i honestly expected to hate this show, but it's truly a Masterpiece with this Episode being outstanding. it's Pure Dead Brilliant as they say were i'm fae.
It’s a mix bag. Mizu played with her sore spot masculinity and over did it. But mikkio is fucked up too that he betrayed her and only is comfortable when mizu is pretend weak. They were just not meant to be. Taigen though. He into that shit man. He just hides it with his hater mentality.
I don't think Mizu is capable of being both her vengeance fighter self and the wife she's trying to be, once she shows him her whole self the relationship is absolutely doomed no matter if she was betrayed or not. (I absolutely am convinced it was him, her mother is wanted too she would never have come back if she'd turned in her meal ticket. not that it's important to know because Mizu never will) Oh there are ninjas in this episode! Ninjas are known as being dressed in all black and appearing out of nowhere to assassinate because of one play where one stage hand dressed in black who usually just move props and puppets around, took out a sword and became the 'killer/assassin' in the play becoming a character instead of being mentally erased by the audience and it blew people's minds so much that the image is still the definition if ninja forever.
The play/latter flashback stuff is genuinely incredible but they breeze past the mom thing so fast I was like Sean I think where I was like "this is clearly bullshit?" for ages longer than I probably should have been.
Hey i would use they/them pronouns for mizu at least for now, bc i dont think the gender situation is explained so we dont know, they could be trans or nb really
for all of 2023? no way. this was too perfect. Now, you can make an argument for the show over all. But this episode of TV beats the piss out the finale
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realizing Mizu is both the Ronin and the Onrio in the story, just top tear writing
Mizu is also the murdered child [innocence]
“I’ll avenge us, momma”
Her vow against her fathers is a death wish she has committed to
'tear' is fuckin right. I get emotional watching OTHER people watch it.
Top tier and tears
And the bride before becoming the onryō
She began the story as the ronin and became the wife/onriu when she bested him sparring.
Mizu is indeed, by turns, the Samurai, the Bride, AND the Onryo. I fck with this episode *so* heavy
AND the baby
I swear, if I was still in college I could have written so many papers about this episode. The themes, the framing, the parallels between Mizu and the Onryō. No episode of TV had left me as speechless as this one has in ages…
You can still write those papers. There’s no rule that literary analysis has to be confined to an academic venue.
Arguably, there is greater value to writing something out of personal interest, rather than for a grade.
Oh, I was cooking up some gender studies shit in my head after watching. How Mizu at times is the samurai, the wife, and the onryo in the story is saying some stuff about expressions of masculinity and femininity; gender code switching being a big one.
I wish he had been killed, just because it's so common for women to be fridged in order to motivate male characters, so it would've been refreshing to finally see a guy be fridged as a motivation for a female character as to why she can't forget her path. But what we got was super interesting too.
@@freeverse4304 Oh there is a lot on the topic. Role reversal, expectations, double standards. It was such a great writing choice that Mizu had to pretend to be a boy, because it plays off so many expectations in society. Even the writing itself plays off of this, with Madame Kaji saying that Mizu is more "man" than anyone else who entered her brothel.
Write it! It’s much more fun to do when it’s about something that interests you, its also good for your brain, it doesnt have to be for school, you can keep it for yourself or post it online.
I actually love that they don’t tell you who it was. In the end it doesn’t matter, the point is that one of them betrayed her and that’s enough to set her on the path.
Right, it's like it no longer mattered. In her eyes, it was proof enough that the life she was trying to live failed. It was enough for her to realize that she was wrong to choose that path. Maybe before she was committed, afterwards she was dedicated, even obsessed.
They do eventually say who in the end of s1, but im glad they waited till later to tell us.
I love the show but this episode I didn’t like the ending, I just don’t believe the husband would turn on her for such a little thing… he is fine with her problematic mother, he is fine that she is a mixed race ‘demon’ but she’s just a little too good with a melee weapon and all of a sudden he thinks she is a monster? He is literally ready to turn her over to the authorities because she wielded a sword…. He forfeits the love he has developed for her because she is a master swordsman? Really? It was the first moment in the show I felt the writing REALLY made no sense.
i thought that was to explain the fire, not the later turn in@@rtchemp
@@corvus2512 Never underestimate what a man's bruised ego will do, especially in that era.
Also, it wasn't necessarily him. Whether it was him or her mother is deliberately left unanswered.
One thing I love about this episode is that nobody can say for sure 100% whether the mother or the husband was lying. Reactors and commenters have so many different interpretations of the truth of what happened but I think the show is trying to say it ultimately does not matter, as Mizu was always fated to go back to her revenge. Her walking away without looking back while the person she started her revenge for gets killed is so powerful.
Have you finished the season?
Yeah I didn’t realize why she went back for revenge but I think it’s part she wants a reason to go back to what she is good at. Swordplay and killing. She hates being called a monster and it’s due to the way she was born so maybe it’s payback for creating her. She really internalized her discrimination
The husband foreshadowed, “…if I bring him the perfect beast…”.
Ep 8 pretty much confirms who it was
This episode fucked me up. I haven't felt so emotionally devastated by a single episode of TV in years.
@@tigqc And killed all the men he sent after her with the weapon he told her was best for fighting a group of opponents.
I think they both betrayed her, none of them came out to help her. Mikio knew what time it was and left her to die only to come after she massacred everyone because he knew he was next so he decided to play innocent to survive. Same with the mother, her money ran out and knew Mizu had a bounty on her head. I want to believe that Mikio was innocent but no, if he truly loved her, he wouldn't have ran away.
I'm team 'mom' did it. Drug addicts will do what they have to for their fix.
Hubby was for sure covering his coward ass, and the whole 'knifing maybe mom while the unstable killing machine slowly walks away' was a really bad fucking idea.
@thrasherthetic I'm team Mikio did it tbh cause the "mom" had a bunch of times to turn Mizu in for a bounty all through out her childhood but never did, she could've done it when Mizu found her again, bleeding out and all that but still didn't. She has alot more credibility in Mizu's life than the husband who really wanted to be back in his lord's graces :/
I initially didn’t think it was fair for Ringo or Akemi to expect Mizu’s help defying Tokunobu’s men BUT Akemi did help Mizu at a critical point; otherwise she woulda been throttled to death
Akemi is also a princess. Usually used to getting her way.
@@superscheuI mean she did
On one hand yes she did risk a lot to come in clutch for Mizu, but saving Mizu was also their only hope to survive, so it wasn't exactly selfless. At the same time there's a difference between asking for the help, and expecting/commanding it.
This and Arcane. We've been blessed with two masterpieces of animation and storytelling in the last few years.
If you haven't seen Scavenger's Reign you should check that out too, the other animated masterpiece from 2023.
@@Quitchy Oooh thanks didn't know about that one I'll check it out.
@@paulmccloud9395 the teaser trailer should give you a good idea as to whether it's for you, without really spoiling anything. It's what sold me.
@@Quitchy Finally ended up watching it, wow, what a story! Thanks for the recommendation.
@@paulmccloud9395 You are most welcome. Glad you liked it.
The worst part of the present day events for me, is that it makes Kinuyo's death in the previous episode completely futile. Madam Kaji asked her to be euthanised because she feared that Boss Hamata and the Thousand Claws were too powerful. Now, the Thousand Claws are destroyed, Boss Hamata is dead at the hands of those he tormented, and Kinuyo died for nothing.
Hindsight’s a B and this show keeps it real. You can do things with the best intentions and still get a pile of 💩
Man, I spent most of this episode on the verge of tears, waiting for her marriage to inevitably fall apart. The way it did was so cruel and so good 😭👏
I remember it being 2:30AM telling myself that this would be that last episode of the night…big mistake 😂
Yes... just yes.
Very relatable X'D
Literally sat here in the same position as I speak 😂
Literally me last night. Ended up needing to finish the season and stayed up until 4am lol
Yeah after episode 4 there was no way I was going to stop. After this there was no way I was going to stop for the rest of the season.
we all experienced this?
Absolutely the best ep of TV since Last of Us ep 3 and Arcane ep 3. Truly transcendent stuff
🎉 attack on Titan is better
@@mem5860 Well I think attack on titan is so great that it can't even be compared on the same level as these series especially since it has a lot more episodes and build up
@@mem5860different genre aot is ore animeish
Literally the stuff of Legends
@@mem5860 AoT is great too, but not as good as the examples I listed, in my opinion
I’ve never seen Morgan this invested in any show. Everyone is so dialed in😂 for good reason. honestly this series reaction has been so fun to watch!
When they said they thought he would literally be so into her being a badass i literally started crying 😂 OH THE IRONY!!!
Watched the full reaction already and still up in here. great show to react to because every episode is a massive escalation. It is really damned good.
This was my favorite episode of the season. So good!
I can’t believe this man Mikio really fumbled the best samurai ever because his fragile ass masculinity bro 💀
That’s fair, but to reduce his motives to ONLY that betrays the writing IMO
Mikio didn't have a danger kink. Skill issue.
@@Merith89 Honestly if you have Mizu protecting you then danger will never be a concern 😂
I don't excuse him, but let's not totally ignore what she did either. It's like the Atom Eve special and her friend when she is using her powers and scaring her off. She literally mocked him asking if he lost his manliness, a sore spot for him, and then despite him asking her to stop multiple times kept attacking him and then even putting a blade to his throat. He was a guy that lost everything, his honor, his pride, and then here comes his wife saying, "What's wrong? Not man enough to use a real blade?" and then beats him and ignores his plea.
The main issue is that because he was so low, he didn't really love her, he loved the idea of finally having something beneath him again. Something to protect and have power over. Once he realized that even at home he was the one on the bottom he threw a tantrum to show that he was the one in charge.
But, given time, he could have maybe truly loved her. However that's the issue, in order for him to love her she would have to be "submissive" and "meek" a lot longer and hide herself in order to be loved. It's a parallel to Akemi and how her attendant told her to use her femininity and lilt her voice to get her way, to game the system. But that's not what Mizu wants, Mizu doesn't want to act like she doesn't have power in order to play the woman's game in a patriarchy when she KNOWS she's strong. That's not who she is, and she shouldn't have to.
She played that game for a little while, pretending to not know how to toss a knife. Pretending to be weaker than him. And he loved it, ate it up. And she did it for a long time. When she finally thought she could start showing her true self, bam.
So after he betrayed her by running away, and then even tried to rub in her face that he can sell her gift any time because he's the boss, she's like, "bye, good luck with life", and when he didn't take no for an answer and kept trying to follow her she killed him with the same knife toss skill he laughed at her before, like, "ha, look at the girl trying to toss a knife, she's cute hahaha". No more pretending. *Lightning fast accurate knife toss kills him*.
She was about to ride him through the ground
I was wondering who snitched on her also, but I love that they pretty much said "it doesn't matter" the damage has already been done.
Nooo! You talked over her telling Ringo to "Start with a knife". It's the best call-back in the whole show!
And he cuts off two of the guys' fingers, just like the first time he saw Mizu demonstrating her skills
Such an incredible show and truly just such a flex as far as storytelling goes, great reaction as always
"If I bring him the perfect creature he'll welcome me back."
One of the best episodes of television I’ve seen in a loooong looong time … immaculate storytelling that gut punches right in the feels!!!
The detail people are missing is the fact that during the “sparring” she was enjoying the violence. Not only that she was getting turned on by it. The idea of taking a life was an aphrodisiac. That scene was in my opinion a way to show the monster she had become.
On your comment about a child idealizing an absent parent, Blood Meridian by Cormac McCarthy has an interesting parable about a man who dies and the impact on his child: “Now the son whose father's existance in this world is historical and speculative even before the son has entered it in a bad way. All his life he carries before him the idol of a perfection to which he can never attain. The father dead has euchered his son of his patrimony. For it is the death of the father to which the son is entitled and to which he is heir, more than his goods.He will not hear of the small mean ways that tempered the man in life. He will not see him struggling in follies of his own devising. No. The world which he inherits bears him false witness. He is broken before a frozen god and he will never find his way.”
I'm reading this book right now! ❤
@@KrazyVideoChick it's an incredible book. Very unique and the imagery and prose are breathtaking.
This episode was so good. I'm glad you guys enjoyed it
Sean and the Tanktop Crew: Discussing the amazing cinematography, brilliant narrative framing devices, and heart-rending character moments that put into perspective the tragedy of Mizu's life that drove her down this path of vengeance.
Also Sean and the Tanktop Crew: Inserting sex jokes and mood-destroying cutaway gags that make me howl with laughter. That music gag edit at 41:26 with "Mother-in-Law" caught me completely off guard and I now I can't think about that tragic moment without suppressing a laugh.
I binge watched the whole season in 2 days with my parents and now I've persuaded most of my work place to watch it and we spend most lunchtimes discussing how great it is. It's been picked up for season 2 so it's really popular
34:13 I love mizus tune/ score it’s so beautiful
Amy Doherty also did the score for “Undone”, a smaller but just as deeply dramatic animated show
Best episode ever.
It truly is a masterpiece.
I couldn’t wait for you to watch this episode!! To me the writing and execution was amazing, near perfect. I can’t think of ANY episode of TV that tops it.
My 2023 best ep was the season 2 finale of “The Bear”, but this is definitely the close 2nd
This episode was so complex. I loved it!
I've commented this probably one too many times but this show just grabbed me by the soul from episode one and I didn't land back into reality until I finished it in one massive binge and it left me completely scarred. So when I saw you guys started watching this show I was really excited to see your reactions to this episode specifically. Especially with the impact from episode 4 right before... This was very entertaining and your sincere reactions were a joy to watch.
On a side note, Morgan, I love you, you are absolutely adorable and I adore your style. Looking forward to your reactions for episode 7!!
While watching I was totally cut out with my consciousness and fully into the environment of this episode.
Fabulous episode.
i’d been saving these to binge and i gave up today 🤣 LOVE LOVE LOVE these reactions and the discussion at the end. i watched this show on a whim after a booktuber i watch randomly made a video about it. beyond glad i did. that being said, it’s been hard for me to get people in my life to pick it up. so happy to see channels i love appreciating it as much as i do. ❤️ on to episode 6!
After having a rough breakup a couple months ago this episode hurt but damn mizu turning her katana into a naginata was badass and totally unexpected
Best reaction video I've seen for the year, that was great guys.💯❤️
37:44 yes!! That’s exactly how it feels. The show, THIS EPISODE is that good
This episode is an artpiece
I JUST watched this with my gf and we’re both so depressed lol. I legit don’t know if want to keep watching haha. Feels bad man.
Absolutely the best show and episode of 2023 hands down. I feel genuinely sorry for folks who trivialize the animated medium as "for kids", because they absolutely missed this masterful piece of art.
Take note kids. We may never have it this good again. Cherish and revisit this occasionally.
So good that y’all were in shock and pain afterwards
This was my favorite episode, and I actually had tears the first time I watched it
So good, please post the ep 6 reaction soon 🙏🏾
This episode was so sad - i love love love your reactions
Your guyses reaction was simliar to mine. Just blown the fuck away by incredible artisty. No words. I cried. This episode made me tear up a lot from just how well executed it was. At what good art it was. Mindblowing.
Turned to my wife after this one and simply said, "That's some good shit." What a flex of a Netflix episode, hitting all the feels like the best bits of Arcane and Haunting of Hill House.
Great episode!
Such a good series man.Easily my top 3 favourite animated series.
I still think it was toxic masculinity, he was fine with her riding horses and carrying stuff and wanted to see her skills with a sword, until it turned out she was way stronger than him. In his mind, it was fine if she 'played around' with a sword, but if she out skilled him, he was threatened. You see it even before the blades were unsheathed, he starts looking apprehensive as soon as she starts letting loose her skills.
Also, she was skilled with the type of weapon he has used for years. And that was the first time she used it. Bruised his pride.
I think that people that thinks it's just toxic masculinity are over simplifying his character, he was fine with her experimenting and even being better than him, she did a better job with the horse than he ever did and it's implied he had been trying for a long time to train it, he didn't mind nor did it hurt his pride. But what she did on that fight was Kind of messed up, he was ok for the first half of the combat, but mizu started teasing and questioning his character, unnecessarily beating his ass and then put a LITERAL kn*fe on his neck. I would be scared of my wife too if she did that to me, maybe not throw her under the bus, but I'm sure as sh*t that if a tell a normal person that my wife hold a kn*fe against my neck they wouldn't ask me to "communicate" or that if I'm scared of her or think she is crazy it means I have "toxic and fragile masculinity".
I don’t think Mikio came back for the love…If he truly loved her, he would have tried to understand since the beginning, and didn’t run away when she looked at him with hope.
Heck yeah I'm excited for this one!
I think both betrayed her.
My favorite episode of the show so far
One thing that's important is when you are in your 20's and finding yourself and finding people, masking is important to like, attract and find commonality and acceptance. But so is the desire to see who people are without that mask, and to be able to be free to remove that masking around those you love. And it's totally valid for people to be like, "you know what, I'm not into that." But at the same time people should be ready to adapt their expectations when they look to see someone below the mask. In any case, ideally you figure that stuff out before you're married and finding a life together.
You guys should definitely watch blade of the immortal or Ruronai Kenshin especially if you like deep scenes intertwined with poetic battles.
If I had a nickel for every time a flashback episode that came out in 2023 was the best of the season, I'd have two nickels, which isn't much but it's weird that it happened twice
I had this show on the backburner for awhile and I'm going back to check out reactions and yeah this episode was crazy, one of the best episodes of TV I've seen in a long time, this really elevated my impression of what this show could be. I have to apologize to blue eye samurai, I wasn't familiar with your game.
The husband WAS toxic. He only wanted to stop during the fight because he was clearly threatened by Mizu's power. He thought she wasn't going to be that good and he would be able to show his power to a fragile woman and that be that. But when he started to see that she was stronger than him, he wanted to stop all of a sudden. He called her a monster to belittle her and make her feel small because he thought of her as less of a woman, meanwhile, if that was a man he would have respected him and called him a true foe. And, sure, she could have stopped when he asked but he was definitely only doing that because he felt threatened by her power. He said he wanted to see all of her so why would he suddenly ask to stop? (Because he didn't really wanna see all of her).
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Also, the mother was living a cushy life off the husband, buying her drugs and stuff, why would she risk that by turning Mizu in? What would be her reason? What would she gain? (There's an argument to be made that she was out of drug money and Mizue had a bounty, but it seems a little less likely). To me, it was *absolutely* the husband who turned her in and that's why he left when the fight started. He only came back at the end to make himself seem innocent so that he could be spared Mizu's rage. Not because he actually was. I thought the puppet show also made that clear. But I also love how the narrative does make it seem like it could be either of them. That's how trash they both were.
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Also, this is the best episode of an already outstanding series. Soooo heartbreaking, but it adds so much depth to Mizu!
Damn you broke it down perfectly 👏
Counterpoints:
Mikio is supposed to be a ‘great samurai’, but his preferred weapon is a naginata; not a dueling weapon or one of [male] stature or prowess… and that might have been simply staging for the present day EXCEPT MIkio is identifiably capable with it… this argues against Mikio being a warrior of the ‘score’, of collecting heads and being an absolute monster… this is not to exclude any [male] pride that might have been wounded, but what if he’s just not that kind of fighter whereas Mizu vowed and trained herself to be? A vengeful spirit who honestly enjoys showing up filthy casuals… and if it were Mikio, why would he wait seemingly a few years to collect the bounty to curry his Daimyo’s favor? Why wouldn’t he just collect on them day 2?
Supposing it was the mother, 1) there’s nothing demanding she leaked Mizu’s whereabouts intentionally, because that opium is a helluva drug; 2) from her POV Mizu and Mikio were fine housing her, but not bankrolling her ‘medicine’; 3) or the most likely scenario, her opium dealer squeezed her for the information knowing she was strung out
Ngl I understand milkio didn’t want to fight cause they were fighting with sword unsheathed man! That’s dangerous af. Though I still think mikkio is a bitch cause he pussied out and snitched on her. That’s where I got pissed at him.
I feel bad for mizu cause she didn’t fit into that submissive role and got punished.
Can't wait for szn 2!!!! MizuKlan stand up 😂🤣
I'd still say the best episode of 2023 TV was "Long, Long Time" in Last of Us. But this was up there too for me.
Devestated I can't watch ep.5 for the first time again, but this helps🥲
Probably best episode of the show!
No Invincible ep 4 yet 😢
They're still grieving Allen 😭
ive never said this to anyone. you made a great advert. now I have to get magic spoon.
You guys commentary is fucking hilarious!😂
So I think it’s not a stretch to say that this Episode(hell this Show) should go into the history books of best TV shows of All Time…
Is it a stretch to say that?
I think people keep getting it wrong that "it doesn't matter who betrayed her and the point is that she felt like either of them could". It makes it look as if she's this evil force that needed to kill him to go back to being a demon. Like Kylo Ren or something. I think the point is that regardless of whether he turned her in or not, he ran away (getting a sword is a bs excuse, a person who truly loves someone wouldn't abandon them in the middle of a battle like that, he was just scared and ran and then saw her winning and came back), and that's even after selling her horse just out of spite. So either way he betrayed her, showed she couldn't be herself because he only loved her when he felt she needed him and he was the boss. The mom is then even making fun of her being betrayed and obviously was just using her too. So at the end who turned her in doesn't matter because they've both have already betrayed her.
This show is amazing❤❤❤
Akemi and Ringo need to climb off that high horse. Telling mizu to "get em" as if she didnt just Fight the fuckin Crazy 88 after almost bleeding out. Like why SHOULD she stop em?! They aint friends. Akemi was rude as hell till she needed help.
Fucking masterpiece!
Thank you for the vidéo! :)
i honestly expected to hate this show, but it's truly a Masterpiece with this Episode being outstanding.
it's Pure Dead Brilliant as they say were i'm fae.
23:43 when I saw this I was so scared it was gonna be a married life if you know what I mean. I dunno if that;d be for the better or worse though
It’s a mix bag. Mizu played with her sore spot masculinity and over did it. But mikkio is fucked up too that he betrayed her and only is comfortable when mizu is pretend weak. They were just not meant to be. Taigen though. He into that shit man. He just hides it with his hater mentality.
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Great video, guys! But for real, the husband set up Mizu.
You will know the answer as to who did it in the implied reveal in the final episode
24:00 **ginuwine starts playing in the background**
This episode gave me episode 3 Arcane vibes
May not have been toxic masculinity, but it was definitely a fragile masculinity.
Episode 5🤘
This is Kabuki theater, it's not a puppet show
I assumed she didn't start the drugs until after she was burned, it started as pain management
The cornhole copium of trauma is further revealed 🎉
Episode 5 is to BES as what episode 3 is to TLOU.
Definitely toxic masculinity. Ego and pride butt hurt.
it was toxic masculinity because he was offended he lost to a woman, albeit it could just be having a big ego or a combination of both
I don't think Mizu is capable of being both her vengeance fighter self and the wife she's trying to be, once she shows him her whole self the relationship is absolutely doomed no matter if she was betrayed or not. (I absolutely am convinced it was him, her mother is wanted too she would never have come back if she'd turned in her meal ticket. not that it's important to know because Mizu never will)
Oh there are ninjas in this episode! Ninjas are known as being dressed in all black and appearing out of nowhere to assassinate because of one play where one stage hand dressed in black who usually just move props and puppets around, took out a sword and became the 'killer/assassin' in the play becoming a character instead of being mentally erased by the audience and it blew people's minds so much that the image is still the definition if ninja forever.
The play/latter flashback stuff is genuinely incredible but they breeze past the mom thing so fast I was like Sean I think where I was like "this is clearly bullshit?" for ages longer than I probably should have been.
Watch Pluto!!!!! Please
It’s the mom the husband doesn’t know about the bounty
but he might have wanted to curry favor with the Lord
@@SeanTanktop you think the lord knows about the bounty? I think it’s just the samurai reached by the mother
What her husband did to her has no name.....
is it ME or is Dustin starting to look like Mellow/bisexual legend?
do solo leveling after
Hey i would use they/them pronouns for mizu at least for now, bc i dont think the gender situation is explained so we dont know, they could be trans or nb really
Attack on Titan episodes are better
for all of 2023? no way. this was too perfect. Now, you can make an argument for the show over all. But this episode of TV beats the piss out the finale
The cornhole copium of trauma is further revealed 🎉