Hey Everyone ! Glad to finally get this video together ! I hope you find it useful in deciding which 85mm lens is going to best for you. Any questions let me know !! As always thank you for watching !
I love your videos especially when looking at sharpness, made my decision on a few z lens option. Recently transferred from d4 to a z6ii and have a Ftz adapter with my 20mm f mount 1.8, I am curiuos how villtrox z mount 20m 1.8 compare to the f mount of same. Any chance to do a comparison?
I know this video is three years old, but there have been a few updates to the Viltrox 85/f1.8 Z. The focus ring is not so tight anymore, you can now operate it with a single finger without it feeling too loose, and the USB Micro connector has been replaced by USB-C. I have just received my Viltrox 85/f1.8 Z and it does not feel tight when mounted and removed from the body. I have seen and heard several people on the internet that the focus ring and the mounting were too tight, and several people pointed out that USB Micro belonged to the past. It's like Viltrox listens to what is being said and adjusts accordingly, which I think is a positive. I've compared it to Nikon's equivalent, and the only two things that stand out are that Nikon's are a bit sharper in the corners and I think the Viltrox has nicer bokeh. However, I have not enlarged to 200%, I have just checked it on an A2 print from my Epson SC-P900, which is good enough for me. On my copy, focus is spot on, there is neither front nor back focus, no need for adjustment at all. And then I just want to point out that I think you are the most serious reviewer I know, and after all I have seen quite a few reviewers here on UA-cam.
I will probably make this my next lens for my Z5. Just bought the 24-200 and blown away with how good it is for a zoom lens even with the variable fstop throughout the zoom range. I also have the 50 1.8 and its just nuts for the price
@@RicciTalks I can't wait to try it on studio shoots when we are allowed, also for under £500 it just is so worth it. I also got the 7 Artisans 35mm 0.95 manual lens, I know a dx lens, and it's a great wee lens. I must be crazy as I am very partially sighted 😎 and using a manual lens 😎
I'm really curious to see if Nikon tightens up & smooths the action of their subject / eye tracking boxes, in future firmware updates. The AF works great - but those boxes are a little hyperactive. Thanks for another great vid!
Great video! When wide open, at the edges, the bokeh balls are a nicer shape on the Viltrox, but the Nikon is overall smoother by a tiny bit. Stopped down I very slightly preferred the bokeh of the Nikon in that shot. What's shocking is how close they are. But the fringing is not great. Overall, the Viltrox seems like an awesome budget choice. And the AF-C performance is really amazing.
Hello I would like to see how you do fine tune lenses on the Z cameras because on my Z5 I can't see a live view of the image te make the adjustments nor an auto fine tune function is available and when I have asked in some other forums, I get a response form Z camera users saying that on mirrorless cameras there is no need for focus fine tune since the focus works through the sensor so what you see is what it focus until is sharp. You are the first one bringing up the fine tune focusing on the Z cameras
Great video buddy. Was considering reviewing this lens on my own channel, but honestly, I’m more interested in waiting for the next Nikkor Z 85 to be announced. You think they’ll go 1.2 or 1.4? My money is on 1.2
@@maortheyoungcameraguy175 I’m sure I’m time a 1.2 version of everything will be out, now, if the Zmount starts doing some 1.8 trinity lenses, god how expensive and huge would those be lol
Hello Ricci, you just said what I have alway said. That is if you get the bast / sharpest lens that your budget will go to. You can alway add caricature to your image in software, by adding blur and flare creatively. Thanks for the review Ricci. Keep well, keep safe and enjoy life.
I would hope that Viltrox would be honored (perhaps) for you to compare this to the Z lens. After looking at other reviews, I've come to two conclusions here -- the Z lens is very good, but the Viltrox, for the money (being about half) is not bad at all, and very very good value. Yes you maybe are only getting about 90% of the quality and speed of a Z version, but you're also only paying half. Had the Viltrox been out when I bought my Z 85 (which I love by the way) I would have considered it as a cheaper option, not that I don't like Z lenses, but rather if I had gotten some of the Viltrox lenses, it would allowed me to save money for some of the more premium Z lenses which are out now, so things have been going a little slower as a result in getting my Z kit put together. The only ones I have left really are the 70-200 and/or the 100-400 Z (still debating which one to get as I mostly do landscapes, travel, and any portraiture I do, I've been using the 50 and 85 mostly).
Hi Ricci, thanks for sharing, just wondering what your thoughts would be regarding this Viltrox vs the F mount 85 1.8g image quality wise? Sharpness and fringing etc.
I’m happy with my copy the main issue was having to use 5 micro USB cables before it would be detected by windows 10. And I have the same tight mount issue.
The comparison images in this video clearly shows that the Viltrox is at best ho-hum. Just buy the AF-S NIKKOR 85mm f/1.8 and use an FTZ adapter if price is the driver as it costs about the same new and much less used. The AF-S lens is still amazing even compared to the new Z series lenses. Even better, just get the Z 85mm, you won't need another one for a long time and the extra $400 you pay for it will not be wasted. My 10c...
Hi Ricci, I think some of the sample pictures of Viltrox is not on focus. I've been using this lense for quite a long time and I can say my lense is sharper than yours. My be it's because you fine tuned that?
Really useful and informative video as always! Quick question - I think the lens doesn't have a manual/auto focus switch so you have to set in camera. Can I just leave it in Auto and twist the focus ring to engage manual focus?
You are right there is no switch so you would have to change the mode in camera If the ring is set to manual focus it will override af and turn to mf just be aware Of the tightness of the manual ring
@@RicciTalks thanks! I think that makes sense. I think this lens looks ace for the money and given I only do a little portraiture could be just the ticket!
great video as always - love your samples like with AF have a z6 ii. on the way with this lens - is it possible to map the Display Image button on left side of body to say Fn 1 ? have on order Megadap adapter on order. - Sony FE to Nikon Z with electronics like AF as I am still a Sony user but have had many Nikons in the past and hoping to see if it ciompares ok to Canon and Sony I have the Samyang 75mm F1.8 for Sony and it is fantastic - plan to get their 85 F1.4 - but the Viltrox for Z mount just a must - most get a 85 F1.8 or F1.4 for creamy images where sharpness is not main purpose - yes for a 20 - 24 or 35 or 50 and 200 and higher then sharpness a must Hope Samyang also starts making Z mount lenses and Tamron
My concern is that even if some lenses are superior, will it be noticed when prints up to say 10 x 8’s are done at your local camera store Are their printers keeping up with the resolution of new cameras and lenses?
I’ve been using the Nikon 85 1.8 for about 7 months now and love it. However, if the Viltrox had been available at the time I definitely would have considered it. I hope they make something like a 35 1.8 then I’d be the first in line.
What impressed me was the Z6II and the 50S. The way it holds autofocus on your face, then smoothly transitions to the objects and back automatically, is really nice.
I bought the Viltrox a few months ago for my Z9 and needed to immediately update the firmware. Before the update, the image in the EVF was around 2 frames per second and obviously unusable. Updating the firmware, from memory it's now v1.2.4, fixed everything although I've rarely taken off the Nikkor 24-120 f/4 S I bought with the camera.
Good review. I got one about 2 weeks ago and the optical quality is definitely better than my old 1.8G 85mm on the FTZ. The Focus speed is darned good. My mount is not overly tight and goes on body pretty much like my Nikon lenses. The one HUGE negative is the lens hood which is hopeless! Wont go on well, get stuck and won't easily come off. Wonder if Viltrox will replace this.
Great review. Owned the Viltrox for some time and for what I need it, absolutely fine. I think you're right, if the 85mm is your bread earner then get the best/native. If not, it doesn't really justify the cost difference... Personal opinion. I really can't wait for the more consacrated lens manufacturers I.e tamron and sigma, to release Z mount lenses. I shoot Tamron and I love the 35mm 1.4 via FTZ on my Z6ii. Would love to see something native from them. Any "whispers"? 😅
A very useful review, it’s always nice to have a choice. I do think there is something special about the way the best Nikon Z lenses renders images in terms of contrast, micro contrast and acuity especially in low light environments.
I experienced that my Z 35mm 1.8 S lens is also tight as you describe it and needs some extra wiggle to turn off and on the camera. Also I know two lenses from thrid party manufacturers (NiSi 15mm F4 and Pergear 35mm 1.2) that they were not tight enough for the Z Mount. In Both cases the manufacturer already knows about the problem and promised to fix it asap. Guess it wont be different here. :)
This is heavily biased as you would expect - it's more than good enough for pro work, don't waste your money on the Nikon if you need a fast 85mm. Only extreme pixel peepers would ever tell the difference!
First of all viltrox is more than enough in this price range ...am using z62 @!$ viltrox.. it's very smooth and good in sharpness in this price range... And remember we compaing 899 dollor lens to 399 dollor lens
Hi Ricci, thanks for the comparison! I am really thrilled that it third party lenses for the Z mount are beginning to be released! I have one question to you. Do you think that the Nikon Z6 will get another firmware update for the autofocus? The Z6II is so stunning with the eye AF and I'm kind of feeling sad for my Z6 to be... well, not so good :D I know that there is a faster processor in the Z6II, but maybe there could be some tweaks in the firmware for the Z6 as well? What do you think?
NIkon z lens is easily BETTER. sharper, contrasty, bokah, not as bulky or heavy as the Viltrox. Just buy a used one of the Nikon. Why by cheap glass for the best full frame camera !
I bought the Viltrox 85 1.8 for my Z6II and was surprised how good it is. Tack sharp and color rendition is spot on. I didn't have chromatic aberration with 99% of my shots. I think viltrox is underrated. Yes of course, the 85 Z is better but more expensive as well. But for general users, viltrox will make you happy enough and save money to buy additional lens instead.
Thanks.. your review decided it for me... I went out and bought the Viltrox and so far it's been all good. I hope you will do reviews for the Sigma and Tamron AF lenses for Nikon Z when they hit the shelves. Its great that there's someone independent out there like you plugging the third party lenses so we camera enthusiasts can get shooting without having to pay the jumpe d up prices that these big name brands demand. You are a credit to independent reviewing. Nikon must be racking their brains to find a way to close you down!
I wanted the lens for portrait shots of kids which might be moving. Unfortunately, the video does not really contain an example of this kind. I am surprised, by the way, as to how easily you can see the difference in IQ even in a UA-cam vide. Probably, I will be disappointed with the Viltrox.
I own the lens since mid February (as soon as it was available here in Austria). I love the lens, it is very sharp on my Z6 The mount is not tight, it only turns a little too far when unmounting, but I got used to it. I only find the lenshood somehow fiddly to screw on. I would hope for more third party manufacturer (SIGMA and TAMRON) to release glass for the Z mount, as the NIKON lenses are quite pricey. I own mainly SIGMA lenses for my DSLR gear which still works fine with the FTZ adapter.
Great summary. It looks like the Viltrox doesn't auto focus for video quite as smoothly as the Nikon, as it seems to hunt more in AF-C. Of course for photography, this would be less of an issue. I guess this would depend on your particular use case. Does the Viltrox respond to the in-camera focus speed settings the same as the Nikon?
it does if you change the speed and sensitivity it does react to those changes that could make it fall in line with the level of focus you want in video but I haven't extensively tested this.
Hi @Ricci Talks (or anyone else using this lens really...), I am using the viltrox with my Z50. I noticed that exposure measurement is correct if I use larger apertures (from 1.8 until 5.6). But anything below produces images that are +1EV or even +2EV is certain settings. What I noticed is that when setting apertures larger than f/5.6, the setting is applied immediately, so for both measurement and recording of the image. But when apertures smaller than 5.6 are used, the aperture "stays" at 5.6 for measurement, and then scales down to the actual setting for the image recording. So when I set the aperture to f/2.8, it's immediately set to 2.8, performs measurement and records photo with ring/blades at 2.8. And the image is exposed correctly. But when aperture is i.e. set to f/8, the ring/blades remain at 5.6 for measurement, and then scale down to f/8 for the recording of the photo, and back to f5.6 after, with the result being the images off at least +1EV. Did anyone else noticed this ?
24th May 2024. Based on this, and one or two other, reviews, I picked up one of these lenses today for my Zf. I think quality control must have improved because the lens slid effortlessly onto the camera with the same silky-smooth feel as a Nikkor unit. I did as you suggested and updated the firmware straight away and that too, was really easy. Thanks for this video, Ricci, it was really helpful.
3:33 My Nikon 20mm f/1.8G lens was very tight to mount the first few times, almost a struggle, and it did change something, probably the tension springs inside. After a while the mount loosened up a bit but it didn't got back to normal, only my Sigma 105 macro was smooth to mount (oh the irony) with the Nikon 300mm D lens coming in second. Eventually I just left the lens on, either fully mounted or "half mounted" as to even out the tension springs. It worked. And yes I did bring the camera to my local shop and they looked at it, poked at it but they couldn't say if anything was wrong, they even tried mounting my Nikon 24-70 without sensing a difference. This was on a D750. Thank for the review!
Hi Ricci. I'm using Nikon D5500 with Nikon 50mm f1.8 and 18-140mm. I want to shift to Nikon Z5 or Z6. I have 2 questions. 1st which camera body I should go for? 2nd. As I said 2 Nikon lens I have its good to buy Z5 with FTZ and use my 50mm 1.8 or buy Viltrox 85mm f1.8? I only use camera for family portrait and landscape photos. No video at all. Dont have lots of budget. Please help to choose with camera body and lens I should go far. Many thanks. CHEERS
Awesome video... I actually saw tht Lenz surging for an aftermarket z’mount... my question is should I get a Zeiss Milvus 85mm 1.8 any thoughts...? For my z6
I was thinking of getting the Viltrox 85mm f1.8 Z mount to be used on my Nikon Z6. But I need to make sure first that it will be compatible with the latest firmware 3.40 especially when using the eye focus function. Please let me know your findings. Thanks in advance.
If there's one thing potential buyers should consider its the support from Viltrox should anything happen. I had one that was working just fine one day, next day it is bricked with no real option for repair. That being said, the lens was a fantasic performer but really with I had ponied up the money for the Nikon 85mm Z.
There is catch of Viltrox lens and I have no complaint as I also bought the Viltrox 24mm z lens. So when I bought Viltrox lens prepare to discard off this lens if break down one day as there is no support service centre after the warranty expire.
I made my decision and stopped watching when you got to the auto focus part. The colors in the mossy tree on the right and the black jacket are terrible with the 3rd party lens. Not gonna start with an expensive new camera system and let $400 give me lower results. Nice video!
you can see the stiff focus ring, that the viltrox is so hard to turn, that the frame is changing.... i would prefer the nikon...better buy a good one instead of 2 cheap ones.
Once I know the difference it would be hard to choose the cheaper one even I don’t really need that. The cheaper one usually is comprise due to lack of money.
Interesting to hear about the tightness at the mount, I have that with my Z 35mm but not on my FTZ, 24-70mm, or 70-200mm. I thought it might be something with the weather sealing gaskets on my 35 1.8, but the Viltrox doesn't have a gasket there, so that is probably not it. It must be sample variation I suppose, but it hasn't caused me any problems so far.
I found the same troubles when I tried the Viltrox 85mm. A lens mount shouldn't be that tight. Also the focus shouldn't be that tight either - A good lens is just right. I'll stick with my old Nikkor 85mm f1.4 until the new Z 85mm f1.2 is available...
Hey Everyone !
Glad to finally get this video together !
I hope you find it useful in deciding which 85mm lens is going to best for you.
Any questions let me know !!
As always thank you for watching !
Hi, thanks for sharing. Your forgot to talk about contrast under strong backlight and related ghosting under backlight. Did you test it ?
I love your videos especially when looking at sharpness, made my decision on a few z lens option. Recently transferred from d4 to a z6ii and have a Ftz adapter with my 20mm f mount 1.8, I am curiuos how villtrox z mount 20m 1.8 compare to the f mount of same. Any chance to do a comparison?
I know this video is three years old, but there have been a few updates to the Viltrox 85/f1.8 Z. The focus ring is not so tight anymore, you can now operate it with a single finger without it feeling too loose, and the USB Micro connector has been replaced by USB-C.
I have just received my Viltrox 85/f1.8 Z and it does not feel tight when mounted and removed from the body.
I have seen and heard several people on the internet that the focus ring and the mounting were too tight, and several people pointed out that USB Micro belonged to the past.
It's like Viltrox listens to what is being said and adjusts accordingly, which I think is a positive.
I've compared it to Nikon's equivalent, and the only two things that stand out are that Nikon's are a bit sharper in the corners and I think the Viltrox has nicer bokeh.
However, I have not enlarged to 200%, I have just checked it on an A2 print from my Epson SC-P900, which is good enough for me.
On my copy, focus is spot on, there is neither front nor back focus, no need for adjustment at all.
And then I just want to point out that I think you are the most serious reviewer I know, and after all I have seen quite a few reviewers here on UA-cam.
Thank you, I was wondering if recent models still had a 'too tight' mount. But I guess they changed it a little.
I will probably make this my next lens for my Z5. Just bought the 24-200 and blown away with how good it is for a zoom lens even with the variable fstop throughout the zoom range. I also have the 50 1.8 and its just nuts for the price
The Z 50mm 1.8 is one of my favourites of all time
@@RicciTalks I can't wait to try it on studio shoots when we are allowed, also for under £500 it just is so worth it.
I also got the 7 Artisans 35mm 0.95 manual lens, I know a dx lens, and it's a great wee lens. I must be crazy as I am very partially sighted 😎 and using a manual lens 😎
Thank you Ricci, excellent review as alway. Something I've been looking out for. 👍🏼
Thanks for review!
I am already have that nikon for a year, and happy with it, only waiting 85/1.2 :) but seeing this review was very usefull for me
I'm really curious to see if Nikon tightens up & smooths the action of their subject / eye tracking boxes, in future firmware updates. The AF works great - but those boxes are a little hyperactive.
Thanks for another great vid!
Totally agree! They are pretty fidgety.
Great video! Thanks. Personally, having spent so much on a camera, I’d want a lens that maximizes the camera’s ability.
Great video! When wide open, at the edges, the bokeh balls are a nicer shape on the Viltrox, but the Nikon is overall smoother by a tiny bit. Stopped down I very slightly preferred the bokeh of the Nikon in that shot. What's shocking is how close they are. But the fringing is not great. Overall, the Viltrox seems like an awesome budget choice. And the AF-C performance is really amazing.
Very thoughtful review. I’m waiting on mine to be delivered. I expect it won’t be as good as the Nikon lens but I’m willing to try it to save US$400.
Hello I would like to see how you do fine tune lenses on the Z cameras because on my Z5 I can't see a live view of the image te make the adjustments nor an auto fine tune function is available and when I have asked in some other forums, I get a response form Z camera users saying that on mirrorless cameras there is no need for focus fine tune since the focus works through the sensor so what you see is what it focus until is sharp. You are the first one bringing up the fine tune focusing on the Z cameras
Great video buddy. Was considering reviewing this lens on my own channel, but honestly, I’m more interested in waiting for the next Nikkor Z 85 to be announced. You think they’ll go 1.2 or 1.4? My money is on 1.2
Hope it’s a 1.2 everything points that way
Imagine
Nikon Z 35MM F1.2
It’s possible…
@@maortheyoungcameraguy175 I’m sure I’m time a 1.2 version of everything will be out, now, if the Zmount starts doing some 1.8 trinity lenses, god how expensive and huge would those be lol
@@ZWadePhoto Nikon Z 24-105MM S F2.8 🤭
Hello Ricci, you just said what I have alway said. That is if you get the bast / sharpest lens that your budget will go to. You can alway add caricature to your image in software, by adding blur and flare creatively. Thanks for the review Ricci. Keep well, keep safe and enjoy life.
Very true! thanks for watching !
I’m just waiting for my 200-600 z mount nikon
Me too
I would hope that Viltrox would be honored (perhaps) for you to compare this to the Z lens. After looking at other reviews, I've come to two conclusions here -- the Z lens is very good, but the Viltrox, for the money (being about half) is not bad at all, and very very good value. Yes you maybe are only getting about 90% of the quality and speed of a Z version, but you're also only paying half. Had the Viltrox been out when I bought my Z 85 (which I love by the way) I would have considered it as a cheaper option, not that I don't like Z lenses, but rather if I had gotten some of the Viltrox lenses, it would allowed me to save money for some of the more premium Z lenses which are out now, so things have been going a little slower as a result in getting my Z kit put together. The only ones I have left really are the 70-200 and/or the 100-400 Z (still debating which one to get as I mostly do landscapes, travel, and any portraiture I do, I've been using the 50 and 85 mostly).
Can u post a video for this AF fine tuning?
Hi Ricci, thanks for sharing, just wondering what your thoughts would be regarding this Viltrox vs the F mount 85 1.8g image quality wise? Sharpness and fringing etc.
Great video, made me buy the lens. 9:29 how do you AF fine tune the lens?
I’m happy with my copy the main issue was having to use 5 micro USB cables before it would be detected by windows 10. And I have the same tight mount issue.
The comparison images in this video clearly shows that the Viltrox is at best ho-hum. Just buy the AF-S NIKKOR 85mm f/1.8 and use an FTZ adapter if price is the driver as it costs about the same new and much less used. The AF-S lens is still amazing even compared to the new Z series lenses. Even better, just get the Z 85mm, you won't need another one for a long time and the extra $400 you pay for it will not be wasted. My 10c...
Hi Ricci, I think some of the sample pictures of Viltrox is not on focus. I've been using this lense for quite a long time and I can say my lense is sharper than yours. My be it's because you fine tuned that?
Better than Yongnuo 85-1.8 Z?
my colleague had two of these lenses, both died after just few times removing them from the camera without turning camera's power off....
Would you say the Viltrox is a better buy than the 85 f11.8G?
Will the IBIS of the camera still work using this Viltrox lens?
My nikon 35mm 1.8 s is a lot tighter on the mount than my 85mm, so the viltrox tightness is most likely not anything to worry about.
Really useful and informative video as always!
Quick question - I think the lens doesn't have a manual/auto focus switch so you have to set in camera. Can I just leave it in Auto and twist the focus ring to engage manual focus?
You are right there is no switch so you would have to change the mode in camera
If the ring is set to manual focus it will override af and turn to mf just be aware Of the tightness of the manual ring
@@RicciTalks thanks! I think that makes sense. I think this lens looks ace for the money and given I only do a little portraiture could be just the ticket!
great video as always - love your samples like with AF have a z6 ii. on the way with this lens - is it possible to map the Display Image button on left side of body to say Fn 1 ?
have on order Megadap adapter on order. - Sony FE to Nikon Z with electronics like AF as I am still a Sony user but have had many Nikons in the past and hoping to see if it ciompares ok to Canon and Sony
I have the Samyang 75mm F1.8 for Sony and it is fantastic - plan to get their 85 F1.4 - but the Viltrox for Z mount just a must - most get a 85 F1.8 or F1.4 for creamy images where sharpness is not main purpose - yes for a 20 - 24 or 35 or 50 and 200 and higher then sharpness a must
Hope Samyang also starts making Z mount lenses and Tamron
PORTRAITS: Viltrox 85z or Yongnuo 85z?
how to tune lens on z 5
tnx
For the price, the Viltrox is definitely a contender.
Nice
My concern is that even if some lenses are superior, will it be noticed when prints up to say 10 x 8’s are done at your local camera store
Are their printers keeping up with the resolution of new cameras and lenses?
200% price for 105% image quality.
Viltrox is my pick and I am more then happy about the lens. Price/quality is better then Nikon Z 85.
Nikkor has better contrast
Viltrox 85mm F1.8 Z - interesting and beautiful design more than nikon, but this nikon lens view as usual tube. its no good for this comnpany
great
Great comparison. You have brought up some issues that I haven't seen other reviewers cover. It's always a treat to see a new video pop up from Ricci.
I’ve been using the Nikon 85 1.8 for about 7 months now and love it. However, if the Viltrox had been available at the time I definitely would have considered it. I hope they make something like a 35 1.8 then I’d be the first in line.
This is released now ;)
Without having the Nikon Z 85 mm, I'm sharing this view on the Viltrox 85 mm. For me the Viltrox does the job.
I have both and will be selling the Viltrox. I see a big difference in both contrast and general image quality. The Nikon pops and looks amazing!
Good to know. I bought the 85z used for the same price of the Viltrox. Previous owner never used it much.
the viltrox is just a shit lens
great review. how does the Viltrox compare to 85mm 1.8G? I don't mind using the FTZ adapter :)
What impressed me was the Z6II and the 50S. The way it holds autofocus on your face, then smoothly transitions to the objects and back automatically, is really nice.
THIS is the video I’ve been waiting for.
hope its useful
I bought the Viltrox a few months ago for my Z9 and needed to immediately update the firmware. Before the update, the image in the EVF was around 2 frames per second and obviously unusable. Updating the firmware, from memory it's now v1.2.4, fixed everything although I've rarely taken off the Nikkor 24-120 f/4 S I bought with the camera.
Good review. I got one about 2 weeks ago and the optical quality is definitely better than my old 1.8G 85mm on the FTZ. The Focus speed is darned good. My mount is not overly tight and goes on body pretty much like my Nikon lenses.
The one HUGE negative is the lens hood which is hopeless! Wont go on well, get stuck and won't easily come off. Wonder if Viltrox will replace this.
Hi!
Is the autofocus is faster than the old 85mm?
Thank you, Ricci! I always appreciate the way you compare lenses, showing side-by-side results. Take care!
Thanks for watching!
Great review. Owned the Viltrox for some time and for what I need it, absolutely fine. I think you're right, if the 85mm is your bread earner then get the best/native. If not, it doesn't really justify the cost difference... Personal opinion.
I really can't wait for the more consacrated lens manufacturers I.e tamron and sigma, to release Z mount lenses. I shoot Tamron and I love the 35mm 1.4 via FTZ on my Z6ii. Would love to see something native from them. Any "whispers"? 😅
That's what I have been looking for ...thanks Ricci!!!
Thank you for watching!
Thanks for your take on this. Matt Irwin did this review on his channel as well. ua-cam.com/video/Fqtw3PB_5Cw/v-deo.html
A very useful review, it’s always nice to have a choice. I do think there is something special about the way the best Nikon Z lenses renders images in terms of contrast, micro contrast and acuity especially in low light environments.
I experienced that my Z 35mm 1.8 S lens is also tight as you describe it and needs some extra wiggle to turn off and on the camera. Also I know two lenses from thrid party manufacturers (NiSi 15mm F4 and Pergear 35mm 1.2) that they were not tight enough for the Z Mount. In Both cases the manufacturer already knows about the problem and promised to fix it asap. Guess it wont be different here. :)
This looks a great option. We need more budget options like this on the Z mount.
Me First
This is heavily biased as you would expect - it's more than good enough for pro work, don't waste your money on the Nikon if you need a fast 85mm. Only extreme pixel peepers would ever tell the difference!
First of all viltrox is more than enough in this price range ...am using z62 @!$ viltrox.. it's very smooth and good in sharpness in this price range... And remember we compaing 899 dollor lens to 399 dollor lens
Hi Ricci, thanks for the comparison! I am really thrilled that it third party lenses for the Z mount are beginning to be released! I have one question to you. Do you think that the Nikon Z6 will get another firmware update for the autofocus? The Z6II is so stunning with the eye AF and I'm kind of feeling sad for my Z6 to be... well, not so good :D I know that there is a faster processor in the Z6II, but maybe there could be some tweaks in the firmware for the Z6 as well? What do you think?
NIkon z lens is easily BETTER. sharper, contrasty, bokah, not as bulky or heavy as the Viltrox. Just buy a used one of the Nikon. Why by cheap glass for the best full frame camera !
The tight condition is unnerving,I stopped using 2nd and 3rd party lenses for that very reason.
viltrox optical sharpness is better than nikkor 85mm f1.4 G. And this is the most important thing 😎
Nikon 85mm z getting more attractive £599 from camera world against the viltrox. 👍💰
Viltrox 85 or Nikon 85 1.8G?
really comes down to the adapter do you want to use the FTZ or not
Have the Viltrox for my z6 and absolutly love it. Mine doesnt feel too tight but I definitely have the problem that it turns to far when unmounting.
That was a very diplomatic review! I have a nikon 50mm f/1.8 E series from the 80s that produces better images than the Viltrox, cost £20.
Sure.
I have a lot of vintage lens as well.
None of them compareble to modern lens :
Slow af
Terrible CA
And soft wide open
I bought the Viltrox 85 1.8 for my Z6II and was surprised how good it is. Tack sharp and color rendition is spot on. I didn't have chromatic aberration with 99% of my shots. I think viltrox is underrated. Yes of course, the 85 Z is better but more expensive as well. But for general users, viltrox will make you happy enough and save money to buy additional lens instead.
I am lending toward the Viltrox 85mm, after 3 months using it, Glenn do you still think it was worth it? The Viltrox lens?
@@zygmuntziokowski7877 Yes! One of the best lens I've used.
Well, the main reason why I bought the Viltrox 85mm, the Nikon Z 85mm ain't available here in Germany. And for the prize it's a pretty good lens imo.
How is your viltrox sir this time? Still good?
@@radwattz8154 it is, yes. Still a pretty good sense for that prize.
Thanks.. your review decided it for me... I went out and bought the Viltrox and so far it's been all good.
I hope you will do reviews for the Sigma and Tamron AF lenses for Nikon Z when they hit the shelves. Its great that there's someone independent out there like you plugging the third party lenses so we camera enthusiasts can get shooting without having to pay the jumpe d up prices that these big name brands demand.
You are a credit to independent reviewing. Nikon must be racking their brains to find a way to close you down!
So how does the Viltrox compare to the Nikon 85mm 1.8G ? Is its focusing silent for video?
Focus is silent in video yes ...
I think it comes down to if u want to use the adapter or not
Nearly same quality, af is silent but, I sand the vitrox back and hold the 85 1.8 g
thank you
I wanted the lens for portrait shots of kids which might be moving. Unfortunately, the video does not really contain an example of this kind. I am surprised, by the way, as to how easily you can see the difference in IQ even in a UA-cam vide. Probably, I will be disappointed with the Viltrox.
I own the lens since mid February (as soon as it was available here in Austria).
I love the lens, it is very sharp on my Z6
The mount is not tight, it only turns a little too far when unmounting, but I got used to it.
I only find the lenshood somehow fiddly to screw on.
I would hope for more third party manufacturer (SIGMA and TAMRON) to release glass for the Z mount, as the NIKON lenses are quite pricey. I own mainly SIGMA lenses for my DSLR gear which still works fine with the FTZ adapter.
From the samples, I see sharper in focused area with the Nikon and smoother bokeh with the Viltrox
Viltrox just announced this same lens for Canon RF!!
Great summary. It looks like the Viltrox doesn't auto focus for video quite as smoothly as the Nikon, as it seems to hunt more in AF-C. Of course for photography, this would be less of an issue. I guess this would depend on your particular use case. Does the Viltrox respond to the in-camera focus speed settings the same as the Nikon?
it does if you change the speed and sensitivity it does react to those changes that could make it fall in line with the level of focus you want in video but I haven't extensively tested this.
Hi @Ricci Talks (or anyone else using this lens really...),
I am using the viltrox with my Z50. I noticed that exposure measurement is correct if I use larger apertures (from 1.8 until 5.6). But anything below produces images that are +1EV or even +2EV is certain settings.
What I noticed is that when setting apertures larger than f/5.6, the setting is applied immediately, so for both measurement and recording of the image.
But when apertures smaller than 5.6 are used, the aperture "stays" at 5.6 for measurement, and then scales down to the actual setting for the image recording.
So when I set the aperture to f/2.8, it's immediately set to 2.8, performs measurement and records photo with ring/blades at 2.8. And the image is exposed correctly.
But when aperture is i.e. set to f/8, the ring/blades remain at 5.6 for measurement, and then scale down to f/8 for the recording of the photo, and back to f5.6 after, with the result being the images off at least +1EV.
Did anyone else noticed this ?
Please compare Viltrox 35mm f/1.8 vs Nikon Z 35mm f/1.8
Thanks,
24th May 2024. Based on this, and one or two other, reviews, I picked up one of these lenses today for my Zf. I think quality control must have improved because the lens slid effortlessly onto the camera with the same silky-smooth feel as a Nikkor unit. I did as you suggested and updated the firmware straight away and that too, was really easy. Thanks for this video, Ricci, it was really helpful.
3:33 My Nikon 20mm f/1.8G lens was very tight to mount the first few times, almost a struggle, and it did change something, probably the tension springs inside. After a while the mount loosened up a bit but it didn't got back to normal, only my Sigma 105 macro was smooth to mount (oh the irony) with the Nikon 300mm D lens coming in second. Eventually I just left the lens on, either fully mounted or "half mounted" as to even out the tension springs. It worked.
And yes I did bring the camera to my local shop and they looked at it, poked at it but they couldn't say if anything was wrong, they even tried mounting my Nikon 24-70 without sensing a difference.
This was on a D750.
Thank for the review!
Encouraged to see the Nikon performs better which is what I'd expect and personally for me it's worth the difference. Interesting film Ricci, thanks.
Thank you for watching! As always
Hi Ricci.
I'm using Nikon D5500 with Nikon 50mm f1.8 and 18-140mm. I want to shift to Nikon Z5 or Z6. I have 2 questions. 1st which camera body I should go for?
2nd. As I said 2 Nikon lens I have its good to buy Z5 with FTZ and use my 50mm 1.8 or buy Viltrox 85mm f1.8?
I only use camera for family portrait and landscape photos. No video at all.
Dont have lots of budget. Please help to choose with camera body and lens I should go far. Many thanks. CHEERS
Awesome video... I actually saw tht Lenz surging for an aftermarket z’mount... my question is should I get a Zeiss Milvus 85mm 1.8 any thoughts...? For my z6
I was thinking of getting the Viltrox 85mm f1.8 Z mount to be used on my Nikon Z6. But I need to make sure first that it will be compatible with the latest firmware 3.40 especially when using the eye focus function. Please let me know your findings. Thanks in advance.
Yup I've gotten my Nikon rear cap stuck on the viltrox now..
If there's one thing potential buyers should consider its the support from Viltrox should anything happen. I had one that was working just fine one day, next day it is bricked with no real option for repair. That being said, the lens was a fantasic performer but really with I had ponied up the money for the Nikon 85mm Z.
There is catch of Viltrox lens and I have no complaint as I also bought the Viltrox 24mm z lens. So when I bought Viltrox lens prepare to discard off this lens if break down one day as there is no support service centre after the warranty expire.
I made my decision and stopped watching when you got to the auto focus part. The colors in the mossy tree on the right and the black jacket are terrible with the 3rd party lens. Not gonna start with an expensive new camera system and let $400 give me lower results. Nice video!
I get the “F_ _” error with the Viltrox on my Z9. Any idea what I’m doing wrong? The contacts seem to be clean and clear. Thanks, Tom KC3QAC
Nikon85mm f1.8s lens has no pop. Micro contrast on this lens is horrible. Renders very flat and has cats eye bokeh. This lens is very disappointing.
you can see the stiff focus ring, that the viltrox is so hard to turn, that the frame is changing.... i would prefer the nikon...better buy a good one instead of 2 cheap ones.
Would you buy the 85 1.8 S lens now (new) or wait for the 85 1.2 release any day now? I think a lot of 1.8 versions will be sold, barely used.
My Z6ii has a tight lens screw on, it's the same as my ftz adapter. Where I bought my 50mm the owner said it's the weather sealing.
Since your review in April 2021, have the issues of very tight lens mount and focusing been addressed by Vitrox yet?
Once I know the difference it would be hard to choose the cheaper one even I don’t really need that. The cheaper one usually is comprise due to lack of money.
Interesting to hear about the tightness at the mount, I have that with my Z 35mm but not on my FTZ, 24-70mm, or 70-200mm. I thought it might be something with the weather sealing gaskets on my 35 1.8, but the Viltrox doesn't have a gasket there, so that is probably not it. It must be sample variation I suppose, but it hasn't caused me any problems so far.
I found the same troubles when I tried the Viltrox 85mm.
A lens mount shouldn't be that tight.
Also the focus shouldn't be that tight either - A good lens is just right.
I'll stick with my old Nikkor 85mm f1.4 until the new Z 85mm f1.2 is available...
I think DXOmark just released a review of Z 85mm 1.8 and it is ranked like 3rd best lens ever. It beat out every 85mm f1.8, even the Nikon 85mm 1.4.
@@mlai2546 I found DXOMark too biased...
@@roybixby6135 Biased towards which brand? I find it a very accurate indication of how good the camera or the lens is.
Next time don't wear black outfit with black chair and black stuff in background 😅
Omg you tell a lot of bullshit.
Did you get paid from Viltrox? Caise I tedted this lens for 3 weeks and it is a trash lene
I am seeing a darker video on the Nikon. I do think it is representing the color better. I have not seen the jacket live though.
thanks for this. How would either/both perform for action sports? Thanks
There is no competition in my opinion. Now, I would love to see the 85g against the V