Miami Dolphins Not Offering Tua Tagovailoa Market Value On Extension!

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  • @gregorysmith3405
    @gregorysmith3405 4 місяці тому +21

    I really can’t believe this is where they’re at with him. If they don’t pay him, I might have to seriously consider how much time and mental energy I spend on this team going forward. And I’ve been a fan since 1976. This is comical.

    • @guybrown52
      @guybrown52 4 місяці тому +6

      I've been a fan since '71. When the Sixers were geniuses and traded Barkley I put the Sixers and followed Barkley. I will do the same thing with Tua. He did everything they asked of them.

    • @MADDIE55176
      @MADDIE55176 4 місяці тому +1

      @@guybrown52 I have said MANY times, we will not win anything as long as Ross is the owner.

    • @startpupsinc9758
      @startpupsinc9758 4 місяці тому

      If that's the case, you were never a fan

    • @gregorysmith3405
      @gregorysmith3405 4 місяці тому

      @@startpupsinc9758 yep. Good reply. Thanks for the insight.

    • @tuat.mvpformallybigd.2635
      @tuat.mvpformallybigd.2635 4 місяці тому +1

      I agree. We've waited way too long to be contenders again. Without Tua we're set back for so many years.

  • @roguebossa
    @roguebossa 4 місяці тому +17

    This is drama, Tua will get paid. And if he doesn't team morale goes into the bucket for years.

  • @joshmiller8844
    @joshmiller8844 4 місяці тому +3

    Reason, the Dolphins since 1995, are the most stubborn franchise in sports. Unfortunately IF the dolphins won't pay him 50ish million they definitely aren't paying 60ish million. But I think if a deal doesn't get done by the start of the season, then it ends badly for Miami and Tua. Tua is sick of being trashed by the media, getting overlooked by other qb's, and already disrespected once by Miami and Flo, had to brush that off and I don't think he nor his family are willing to be disrespected a 2nd time by his own team!

  • @jorgefernandez5231
    @jorgefernandez5231 4 місяці тому +2

    It will get done ✔️
    Totally confident

  • @brandonwunn3549
    @brandonwunn3549 4 місяці тому +3

    Reason and Kyle Crabbs are my 2 favorite Dolphins content creators.

  • @MarkRiccardo-fu3sw
    @MarkRiccardo-fu3sw 4 місяці тому +4

    I can't believe they won't pay him this is crazy not signing him puts this franchise back big time!!!!!!

  • @jeffbratcher4831
    @jeffbratcher4831 4 місяці тому +6

    Similar sources said they were waiting on Waddle until they got Tua done, then bam Waddle signed…I don’t believe any of these reporters…

  • @Gray_Bush
    @Gray_Bush 4 місяці тому +27

    Ugh! I've always been supportive of the Dolphins front office, or at least tried. Tua's contract situation makes it extremely difficult to stay the course. I understand that each side is looking to gain or hold leverage. At the end of the day it's business. BUT, by the time training camp rolls around, it becomes a TEAM issue. Not just because the offense is losing reps with their QB1, but it sends an extremely poor message to the rest of the team, and potential future FA signings. It's almost as if they are willing to say "F*** it" to everything if Tua doesn't accept their number. How is that reasonable? This is the one position you can't afford to screw up! Most of us know that the 2025 draft class is weak, and the 2025 FA QB class is mostly nonexistent. Forgive me, brothers and sisters, but if our team screws thus up, and lets Tua walk. I'm DONE

    • @EurekaMaster
      @EurekaMaster 4 місяці тому +2

      You should have walked when they asked Coach Flo to lose on purpose 🤷🏿‍♂️

    • @EurekaMaster
      @EurekaMaster 4 місяці тому +3

      And then fired him for not believing in Tua…just to go after Deshaun, Tom Brady, and then play with not paying Tua market value.🤦🏿‍♂️🤷🏿‍♂️

    • @Gray_Bush
      @Gray_Bush 4 місяці тому +2

      @@EurekaMaster It's exhausting fighting off trolls. Find a life and live it

    • @lamarbennett436
      @lamarbennett436 4 місяці тому +2

      ​@@EurekaMasterFlores was hot garbage

  • @williamhawkes4244
    @williamhawkes4244 4 місяці тому +6

    I still think if it's not done by camp he starts pushing for a trade

  • @iosefauu8573
    @iosefauu8573 4 місяці тому +6

    I'm looking forward for the dolphins to release Tua so the dolphins can look back at the lost they have created.... all awhile, Tua is with a team that appreciate his skill level and their team is hitting on ALL CYLINDERS!

    • @samuelwtuiolemotu2826
      @samuelwtuiolemotu2826 4 місяці тому +2

      Brain Daboll is the Coach I have no doubt would be the first to convince the Giants owner to pick up Tua!

  • @JasonKeck39
    @JasonKeck39 4 місяці тому +2

    Don’t let them do you dirty Tua! Hold out, sit the year and hit the open market .. someone will ABSOLUTELY pay you! Hopefully a much better team.

  • @omarbrown2292
    @omarbrown2292 4 місяці тому +2

    This was another informative and entertaining show. Reason you're definitely top shelf

  • @fruitstrong5977
    @fruitstrong5977 4 місяці тому +3

    Sorry Darlington, but you didn't sell me on that report. In his conversations, the Dolphins aren't offering close to the market deals, but no no I don't know the numbers?? Umm whatever. And he also said that the Dolphins COULD say they're not doing a deal like Goff and Lawrence, and that's different from the Dolphins DID say they're not offering a market deals. I get the sense that these reporters don't really know where things are, but need something to say on these shows. Not sold. No way around it. They have to pay Tua, because he's NOT playing without a market deals. Ain't happening. No way Tua plays a snap this season making less than T Lawrence and J Love when he has more WINS than both of them combined. And due to face both of them this season. Tua WILL NOT be in either of those games without a deal. Grier and Shore have to know that. It'll get done.

    • @tuat.mvpformallybigd.2635
      @tuat.mvpformallybigd.2635 4 місяці тому

      I hope so but they always screw us with good players. They always screw us over. We are finally looking like contender's again and I can't imagine having to start over with a new QB. We will be bad again for many years

  • @i_tearespect8190
    @i_tearespect8190 4 місяці тому +6

    The message is so bad, and now we know that they never did believe in Tua.
    Either trade Tua or pay the damn money. They are risking the morale of this team, it's embarrassing.

    • @Daren-fh5nm
      @Daren-fh5nm 4 місяці тому

      What morale? Has Tua won a playoff game yet? Two years straight they can’t win in December and part of the blame in on Tua not just the defense. They can’t beat the Bills and some of the blame is on Tua again! I’m a Dolphins fan and I like Tua’s accuracy but he doesn’t come through in clutch moments

    • @tuat.mvpformallybigd.2635
      @tuat.mvpformallybigd.2635 4 місяці тому

      ​@@Daren-fh5nmClown, You clown's love to put all the blame on Tua.

  • @iosefauu8573
    @iosefauu8573 4 місяці тому +6

    It's best that Tua don't show up for training camp, and let Mike White and Skyler battle it out out for number 1.
    Tua can sit and wait for teams willing to pay 60 to 70 plus million per year.

    • @hutch761
      @hutch761 4 місяці тому +3

      Out of your mind

    • @Daren-fh5nm
      @Daren-fh5nm 4 місяці тому +1

      @@hutch761Nobody is paying a qb that much who hasn’t even won a playoff game yet

  • @yitwailu2
    @yitwailu2 4 місяці тому +1

    Reason, you were preaching to the choir of one (me). But thanks for pointing out that Shore might have more power than Grier, because to this point, I like the work Grier’s done this offseason, even if they took their sweet time with Waddle. To give one example, they signed Calais Campbell for pocket change. But part of players wanting to play in Miami is they have a great offense, and it’s BS that it’s all scheme and weapons, because why did McVay want Stafford, and why did Shanahan replace Garoppolo? And the alternative of drafting a QB next year is a crapshoot, because first round QBs bust regularly, like Zach Wilson, Lance, Fields, Jones, Pickett, possibly Bryce Young, and probably one or two from this year’s draft, and as you pointed out, QBs who excel in year 1 like Purdy and Stroud are exceptions.

  • @ej9870
    @ej9870 4 місяці тому +3

    In my opinion I think Ross is the holding this up because greirs job is dependent on the success of Tua.

  • @matthewheery2375
    @matthewheery2375 4 місяці тому +2

    I just want to know plan B . Say what you like about Tua you are entitled to like or hate him . But name someone who will be available to replace him. We all pray we go deep into play offs so another late first round pick . Not good for a team without a QB. Please just give me some idea of a plan B if not sign him ASAP

  • @dolphin1346
    @dolphin1346 4 місяці тому +1

    What would happen if they decided to play out his 5th year option? I'm assuming several things can and will happen. Problem is he has probably the best weapons in the NFL and definitely the fastest offense in the league. Baring injury TUA Will be in the top five in touchdown throws and yardage throw when the football. He's got a quick release He's accurate and he's got speed on his side. Dolphins better not gamble

  • @snaphook8010
    @snaphook8010 4 місяці тому

    As a 30 yr panther season tickets holder that wait was long but so sweet..

  • @draxosplace4845
    @draxosplace4845 4 місяці тому +8

    They are not paying Tua, and that is going to hurt this team.

  • @JohnSanchez-pj7zu
    @JohnSanchez-pj7zu 4 місяці тому +1

    I hope they keep tour. We need him please please please

  • @rafaelluciano9091
    @rafaelluciano9091 4 місяці тому +16

    If they don’t sign Tua the team is going back 20 years again.

    • @BeholdtheTruthBrandon
      @BeholdtheTruthBrandon 4 місяці тому +4

      I wouldn't say that. Look at the Texans they were down for like 2 yrs after Watson left got CJ Stroud and look where they're at

    • @nocaptrucking8016
      @nocaptrucking8016 4 місяці тому +1

      What ever you smoking let me hit it!! Clearly you high as Hell

    • @terrencesimpkins734
      @terrencesimpkins734 4 місяці тому

      Cj is better than Watson

    • @Daren-fh5nm
      @Daren-fh5nm 4 місяці тому

      Tua hasn’t even won a playoff game yet but probably wants what the top QBs make

    • @tuat.mvpformallybigd.2635
      @tuat.mvpformallybigd.2635 4 місяці тому

      We've finally got to where we're proud of the Dolphins again but it never fails they always let the best players go.

  • @Bigstick6904
    @Bigstick6904 4 місяці тому +1

    They didn’t wanna show loyalty if they did they would’ve done it in the beginning. They was hoping that was going to drive his price down now it has backfired.

  • @jorgefernandez5231
    @jorgefernandez5231 4 місяці тому

    Same approach with Tua 😊

  • @coreyp.528
    @coreyp.528 4 місяці тому +2

    Ross doesn't need to be the speed bump in the Phins progress... again. It's not normal for the national media to side with Tua. Pay that, man. Get on with this.

  • @Bigstick6904
    @Bigstick6904 4 місяці тому +3

    And I swear to God if they let him walk and bring in Dak Prescott, I will burn every piece of dolphin paraphernal that I have and it’s in the thousands‼️‼️‼️

  • @MattH-zy9gp
    @MattH-zy9gp 4 місяці тому +1

    With all the stupid money they have given out over the past few years, I can't believe they are playing this game with their franchise QB. There is no other option but to pay Tua. Listening to all the experts, the longer they wait, the more it costs. Don't mess with the team morale.

  • @ryanlapinad
    @ryanlapinad 4 місяці тому

    Thanks!

  • @jorgefernandez5231
    @jorgefernandez5231 4 місяці тому

    It will get done part of beginning to get afraid

  • @juniorburns-hg1ji
    @juniorburns-hg1ji 4 місяці тому +1

    They better extend Tua this crazy it's not done yet, won't be happy fin fan if Tua gets away not happy at all and I will be calling for cg's ass to be shipped out.

  • @ryanneff3253
    @ryanneff3253 4 місяці тому +3

    Can Ross sell the team already

  • @iosefauu8573
    @iosefauu8573 4 місяці тому +4

    Miami ain't going to see a playoff game for the next 20 plus years.

    • @BeholdtheTruthBrandon
      @BeholdtheTruthBrandon 4 місяці тому +1

      Look at the Texans after Watson left they got CJ Stoud. Things will work out for the Dolphins

    • @cheezy1620
      @cheezy1620 4 місяці тому +2

      ​@@BeholdtheTruthBrandon you seriously pointing out an outlier? Lol. How about you look at the last 20 years of dolphins QB. How about recent times, lance, fields, Wilson, Jones, ridder, etc. QBs don't grow on trees lol

    • @BeholdtheTruthBrandon
      @BeholdtheTruthBrandon 4 місяці тому

      @cheezy1620 I get that. My view is the front office believes they made a mistake in drafting tua. If they really want him they would've offered him the extension. The Jags Packers 9ers Chargers have paid or is ready to pay their guy. The Dolphins truly don't believe Tua is the guy.

    • @tuat.mvpformallybigd.2635
      @tuat.mvpformallybigd.2635 4 місяці тому

      Ross always lets our team down with getting rid of our best players.

  • @jeffbratcher4831
    @jeffbratcher4831 4 місяці тому +1

    The dolphins have been drinking Poupart Fool-Aid…there isn’t a reasonable option other than Tua that doesn’t come without a short term downgrade at the position or marginal pay differential

  • @deangrisham2858
    @deangrisham2858 4 місяці тому +1

    So if not Tua, then who?

  • @Hicks8907
    @Hicks8907 4 місяці тому

    Good thing the panthers did what you said they needed to do let’s go!

  • @ryanneff3253
    @ryanneff3253 4 місяці тому

    How can you set a budget 4 years out when the cap keeps going up

  • @mangoztube5231
    @mangoztube5231 4 місяці тому +1

    Pay fucking TUA! For years we have over paid for players now we can’t pay Tua they just being cheap pay Tua!!!!

  • @kknutskekoa8958
    @kknutskekoa8958 4 місяці тому +1

    If the team don’t sign and he plays on the 5th year. Say bye to him next year.

  • @te2934
    @te2934 4 місяці тому

    Just pay him at this point. With the cap increases the coming up years the dead cap will be absolutely irrelevant and if we arent good we will be in a position to draft someone else.

  • @richardjackley334
    @richardjackley334 4 місяці тому +3

    Pay him or trade him!!!!

  • @jerryfagolimul8676
    @jerryfagolimul8676 4 місяці тому +2

    We know and his former recruited coach were not for Tua. The owner brought him over by the draft and let's hope he saves Tua contract by market value today, not yesterday. Let's go Ross🎉.

  • @jorgefernandez5231
    @jorgefernandez5231 4 місяці тому

    Let’s play this out
    We can extend reek now get ten on cap sign Holland now and long this year now everyone except Tua now team is all in
    Next year plays on fifth year and extend him at 56 then push it one year
    We good

  • @jorgefernandez5231
    @jorgefernandez5231 4 місяці тому

    Waddle was a great contract

  • @joshwilliams9922
    @joshwilliams9922 4 місяці тому

    This front office man. The lions literally got st.brown, peni sewell, and Goff all done before the draft on the same god Damn day.

  • @jorgefernandez5231
    @jorgefernandez5231 4 місяці тому

    Jags is a small market so us Detroit nobody will go to those places they have to over pay
    But I agree pay him 53

  • @jorgefernandez5231
    @jorgefernandez5231 4 місяці тому

    Reason trust process it will play out time yet
    I negotiate contracts it’s a game sticking point probably injury guarantee

  • @russcronsr.6559
    @russcronsr.6559 4 місяці тому +1

    1) yes I'm a Tua supporter! However I also understand business very well as I run one. That being said I LOVE the stance we're taking on this cuz I could give 2 💩about leading the league in passing cuz Tua ain't really done 💩 to deserve being paid more than qb's that are far better than him. F-k the market.

    • @mikesterner2145
      @mikesterner2145 4 місяці тому

      God, your statement is B Utiful!!!! SPOT ON!!! I'm glad to FINALLY see someone who actually runs a business TELL IT LIKE IT IS!!! This God damn F*kn Sasquatch (Reason) needs to STFU!!! What a F*kn GASBAG!!!! Geezus Christ!!! Go back and look at the Eagles, Titans, Ravens, & Bills game and HOW TUA SHRIVELED UP LIKE A TURTLE!!!! Throws a friggin INT at the most inopportune time. IF and it's a big IF Tua lights it up this year and takes the team deep into the playoffs THEN PAY THE MOTHER F*CKER!!!! Who gives a 💩what other teams are doing. As Grier says, they will do "What is best for the Miami Dolphins"

  • @jorgefernandez5231
    @jorgefernandez5231 4 місяці тому

    Please don’t compare with Wilkins he is not a impact position you and Neil both said 18 was the highest

  • @snaphook8010
    @snaphook8010 4 місяці тому +2

    0 playoff wins.. those are the facts.. and hasn’t looked real good in those games..
    Who cares the numbers are ridiculous whether it’s now or later when you sign him..I need to see him stay healthy & more before I give him big money..I’d rather be sure and not make the Daniel Jones mistake..this is no time to panic..let’s see you prove it Tua and you’ll get the bag

  • @parrott113
    @parrott113 4 місяці тому +2

    Difference is Tua with this offense around him and he still can't beat good teams.. he only throws to a spot and can't do his own audibles. He doesn't elevate the team and the fins see if they pay him that money.. do not make the playoffs..purgatory afterwards. They are being smart

  • @jorgefernandez5231
    @jorgefernandez5231 4 місяці тому

    Loook at Kyle said next three years cap friendly on waddle

  • @tb7547
    @tb7547 4 місяці тому

    WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS 🏆 GO PANTHERS 🐆 🐀

  • @carlsondumancas9526
    @carlsondumancas9526 4 місяці тому

    Why is td saying that tua is nothing without waddle and hill and he just a average qb.

  • @jorgefernandez5231
    @jorgefernandez5231 4 місяці тому

    Last point let mike McDaniel play his game he will talk to Chris close to camp

  • @lululeaes1046
    @lululeaes1046 4 місяці тому

    They gonna pay tua. I dnt believe these so call whatever they call?

  • @jeremiahlee4640
    @jeremiahlee4640 4 місяці тому

    Dam y'all big mad 😂

  • @ryanlapinad
    @ryanlapinad 4 місяці тому

    " aaaa let's ...... around " control, every year " you gotta do this, you gotta do that " puppeteer. money not matter so what. CONTROL it is what it is.

  • @drali19741
    @drali19741 4 місяці тому +1

    The way you are describing Tua seem like teams are vying with each other for tua.Hes no where close to 50 per year plus he's injury prone.Teams are not afraid to pay top dollars if the player can show they are worth it .Prime example is Jordan with no superstars around him took the team to playoffs .Tua cannot have better offensive players than current roster and still he couldn't win the games which mattered.Both him and dak inflate their stats by thrashing the weakest teams

  • @hutch761
    @hutch761 4 місяці тому

    Cousins contract

  • @billytrussell3711
    @billytrussell3711 4 місяці тому +2

    😂😂😂 this guy was crying trew out the entire show ..not signing tua will not destroy this franchise..let him prove it and no he has not proven anything...sorry if my opinion don't align with yours ..😂😂😂😢😢😢😢 phinsup

  • @jorgefernandez5231
    @jorgefernandez5231 4 місяці тому

    Can’t do business in fear

  • @murphy7239
    @murphy7239 4 місяці тому +2

    We got one full season from Tua and he thinks he deserves a huge contract. Try giving of 2 full seasons and beat a playoff team, then start your selfish talk about all this $ you believe you're entitled to. You and tyreek are ridiculous. So are most of the $ grubbing athletes.

  • @jeffbratcher4831
    @jeffbratcher4831 4 місяці тому

    I think you’re a bit off in terms of getting out ahead of the contract with Tua, he ended 22 season with 3 concussions and a missed playoff game, needed to play an entire season and stay healthy. The window is really this offseason to get the deal done, we’re still over a month from training camp….You could make the argument for Wilkins but by all accounts they did offer him a reasonable deal and Wilkins balked, I would say they won the contract with Waddle, based on the WR market, if anything I would say they could have done better with Hunt…but that’s about it.

    • @guybrown52
      @guybrown52 4 місяці тому +1

      I agree with Wilkins not getting paid that$$$, but Tua has done everything they asked of him. He's gone toe to toe with the best and should have beaten them at least once if not for his own mistakes And the mistakes of his teammates. Simply put, The Buffalo game where Tyreek and the other WR dropped back to back TD's. KC where Tyreek gave up the winning TD. I think we are going to see his best ball, but we will see him traded for draft picks because he will be $60/yr. and tagging him will be suicide

  • @miamidolphinsfan
    @miamidolphinsfan 4 місяці тому +6

    I really think McDaniel wants another QB and he's convinced he can draft him.....I think Tua is gonna be allowed to walk.

    • @roguebossa
      @roguebossa 4 місяці тому +4

      McDaniel knows you just can't plug anybody in this system and that also that would set the program back at least 1 or 2 years.

    • @tuat.mvpformallybigd.2635
      @tuat.mvpformallybigd.2635 4 місяці тому

      McDaniel wants Tua for sure.

  • @SleezyMeta
    @SleezyMeta 4 місяці тому

    It needs to be more than a playoff game. It's superbowl or bust period. That's the definition of win now.

  • @MGC-nn9lt
    @MGC-nn9lt 4 місяці тому +1

    The Dolphins know that Tua is being propped up by the elite weapons and McDaniel’s scheme he’s playing with. The priority is to extend Hill because HE is the engine that makes it all work.
    Tua is a good QB, but the McDaniel’s/Shanahan offense isn’t dependent on a big contract QB.

  • @williams1923
    @williams1923 4 місяці тому +1

    Actually, regardless of the hyperbole of Reason, who is especially silly tonight, the Dolphins have most of the leverage here. There are plenty of people that would love to come to Miami - with no State taxes - live in FL. The agents will be forced to fold.

  • @TinoCampisi
    @TinoCampisi 4 місяці тому

    Give Tua the Lamar treatment…athletes first needs taken down a notch imo. Who’s knocking down the door for Tua when nobody would mess Lamar?

  • @dontrillwatt765
    @dontrillwatt765 4 місяці тому +2

    Hang in there GM.Let him play out that fifth year option.Prove to us that you can take down the big dawgs.If you can't do it with millions on the line ,you can't do it period.

    • @guybrown52
      @guybrown52 4 місяці тому +5

      Then be prepared to pay him$60+

    • @ej9870
      @ej9870 4 місяці тому +3

      @@guybrown52I’d rather pay him 60 mil and know for a fact the he is elite than pay him 55 and him ending up not being good enough

    • @MADDIE55176
      @MADDIE55176 4 місяці тому

      @@ej9870 Exactly. Tua is NOT elite so far and must show he can play ELITE vs. the better teams ON THE ROAD and IN THE PLAYOFFS !!

    • @ej9870
      @ej9870 4 місяці тому

      ⁠@@MADDIE55176I think he can tho so I would sign him before he does it but can’t blame people for not believing he can 🤷‍♂️

    • @JasonKeck39
      @JasonKeck39 4 місяці тому

      @@MADDIE55176. TEAM game moron. Tua doesn’t drop TDs or pass/run block, he doesn’t play defense and allow offenses come back from 2 tds late in the fourth, he doesn’t miss FGs and he doesn’t allow kick returns for TDS. Stop being a simpleton

  • @Bigstick6904
    @Bigstick6904 4 місяці тому

    He has transcended into truly BS

  • @christophermccullough6221
    @christophermccullough6221 4 місяці тому

    They should not he can not win a game in December

  • @aaronberg5638
    @aaronberg5638 4 місяці тому

    IMO this is all a smoke screen. The Dolphins WANT to make Tua the highest paid, under Dak. Love will get paid before Tua does.

  • @startpupsinc9758
    @startpupsinc9758 4 місяці тому

    Guys, stop panicking. The Dolphins dont have a Plan B. They're gonna sign Tua. They have his 5th yr still and the Franchise Tag. Settle tf down