Kind of ironic that with the whole "I see you" theme, it takes Bojack 20 minutes to see that he's in the wrong room. In so many ways, he's just as self-obsessed and unaware of the people around him as Beatrice was.
to be fair w this specific thing, i think he was just talking to her as if she were actually listening. i still agree though lol it is what it is he can't know any better than what he was shown. also, wouldn't you be if your mom treated you like shit 'sing the stupid song', you make it against all odds and become famous and it's still not enough for her?
It kills me that he cannot even bring himself to say "Sarah Lynn died", even after being able to mention that Herb did... it's like he can't admit it to himself
JC Not Exactly! All this time it was a horrific signal to us that what we knew about what happened wasn’t the full story. Bojack knew the truth, though, and he hid it from everyone except himself.
@@jcnot9712 Keep in mind that the episode after Sarah Lynn's death is when he gives his 20-second "I'm poison" schpeel, and then runs away for about a year. Sarah Lynn's death is going to haunt BoJack for the rest of his life.
This monologue is in a class of its own. At college, we learnt that with monologues, sometimes a character can go monologuing about a point one minute and change the whole point of it in a matter of minutes. How Bojack took the statement as “I see you”, but later realised it was actually “ICU” is perfectly timed and well performed on the realisation of it. To be able to perform it so fluidity and with such relatable themes of human relationships and regrets of mistakes is an achievement in it’s own.
The entire show is very cleverly, very tightly written, and this episode is no exception. The writers for this show KNEW what they were doing. It's no wonder a lot of aspiring actors have chosen THIS as their monologue of choice to act out in recent years
The ICU moment hit me way harder than I would’ve thought it would. He put hoped so much that his mom had finally acknowledged him before she died, only to find out she was reading a sign behind him
15:54 “You can call Horsin’ Around dumb, or bad, or unrealistic, but there’s nothing than realistic than that. You never get a happy ending, because there’s always more show... I guess until there isn’t.” Now that it’s over I see the writers were talking about Bojack itself.
My personal opinion. Bojack should have gotten married probably with Princess Carolyn and had a few kids. He must have become somehow a toxic, abusive dad, but he would have been probably an OK dad. Especially with Princess Carolyn. But Bojack was too afraid of having kids (S1 E1) because he was abused by parents. To me personally, that is an ordinary but very powerful message of this show.
@@aik3874 His fantasy with Charlotte and dream child Harper suggest he might have been. But I think he still needed a long road of healing and work at the end and he wasn't in a place to do that.
I feel for your dad. I've been debating a similar thing with my mom. She's acted like her and a bit like Butterscotch. At the beginning when he forced a Thank you it hit close to home.
@@SalsBrain I think at some point everyone had something or a person that meant everything to us, but it got away or let us down at some point, I think that's why everyone can identify themselves on that line.
The worst part is that you don't know if you should feel upset or not, after all, they're people as well, who make mistakes and have flaws. Maybe we all think we're so special that the people most close to us would never betray our trust. Even tho there's no reason to believe it at all.
Whenever I listen to this it feels like I'm listening to a real person, a flawed character whom I can relate to even though I don't have the same treatment from my parents. This show is something real.
@@yeseniasanchez1027 he's definitely a shitty person and I hope most people don't relate to his worst possible actions (penny, Sarah Lynn, generally being too self absorbed to worry about how his actions and words effect others), but there's a whole episode showcasing his internal depression monolog and his deepest insecurities about his own guilt and loneliness so I think many people can relate to aspects of his character such as that. As a generality, we've all done something we've or someone else has considered shitty before, and this show in a way shows us everything we shouldn't do to deal with that, and by the end i felt like I got a good takeaway on how to handle these emotions more effectively. Maybe if bojack learned to earlier, we wouldn't have gotten to the deepest pits of Rock bottom with penny and Sarah Lynn, and being hopelessly addicted to drugs.
16:37 - 16:50 That was the moment I teared up, by far the saddest part of the episode. It was that tragic epiphany where he realized that the one thing he could have POSSIBLY held onto, POSSIBLY used as the smallest proof that hidden behind all of her own demons, the darkness within her heart, there was a small ray of light and love she shined onto her son during her final moments. It was then that he truly understood his mother had never done a single act of kindness for him in his life, that she'd been too consumed with her own sense of self-pity and misery to actually be a decent mother to her only child. If she'd just mocked him like Bojack said she expected she would, that would've been bad, sure, but he was expecting that. He could handle that, since that's what he'd experienced all his life. At the very least, he wouldn't have been filled with that small bit of misplaced hope that his mother had actually cared about him, that she'd finally decided to give the long overdue affection, even if it was kind of an insult to do it after so long. But as he stands there, it's as if a freight train hits him, the terrible fall that came from such a very small up he thought he'd received. Jesus Christ, that's so depressing...
Right after that when he says "my mom died, and all I got was a free churro", the face he makes. I couldn't hold my tears. The show has such a basic animation, and it's just a horse...but in combination with it's writing and performances it's so expressive and relatable. Also, the pause he makes between those bits is just chilling.
The pure irony in that he talks so much about his parents being self-absorbed but by the end he couldn't even realize he was giving a eulogy at the wrong parlor is 👌👌👌
You know, it’s strange. My childhood was nowhere near as bad as Bojack’s, but I’m at that point in my life where I don’t really know how to feel about my mother. I don’t feel like I hate her, but I can’t really bring myself to really love her, either. She’s not a bad person I don’t think, but her influence in my life has been so detrimental in a lot of ways, it’s really difficult to be around her lately. And I always felt guilty about that. I know she did her best and is still doing her best, but now, because I tried so hard to live up to her expectations, I kind of hate myself for it. I became a perfectionist thanks to her, so now I’m afraid of ever failing and trying new things, my life is at a standstill. And she’s the type of person to always put her foot down, so I know she’s not really going to listen to me. She’s just going to turn around and blame me for my mediocrity. I’m so tired.
I can't speak to your life, I don't know you or anything about it. I will say, however, that cutting toxic people out of your life is super beneficial. And not just obviously toxic but also people who just don't bring you up or make you feel good or happy. I had a horrible relationship with my mother but for some reason I kept her around. Once I got her out of my life not much changed but I feel 10x better knowing I no longer need to even think about her
@@SalsBrain There are 1-2 episodes (very roughly speaking as it's been awhile) of Re:Zero that are basically just one very long conversation. And it's an amazing show with heavy emotions.
"She knew what it's like to feel your entire life like you're drowning, with the exception of these moments. These very rare, brief instances, in which you suddenly remember...you can swim."
This was an absolute tour de force of dramatic and comedy writing. Twisted into one titan of a monologue. Delivered by Will Arnett so impeccably. I laughed. I cried. I felt empty inside, yet strangely relieved. This is quite possibly the best singular show episode I've ever seen in my life. It is perfection.
2:00 "Kind of like a pissed off toy dinosaur" It just hit me. Bojack is really at a funeral for a "Lizard" family. What if calling Lizards or any of the reptiles of this world a "Dinosaur" is like calling someone a racial slur? If so that makes the final reveal even more awkward.
I had to capture off Netflix on my phone, leave my phone outside in the rain(inside was too noisy with children), run the video to audio(I intended on posting the video at first but changed my mind), then process the audio with a picture on the converter.... When I listened the the final result I didn't feel like it was too bad
Rafael 37 well the philosophical meaning is : extreme skepticism maintaining that nothing in the world has a real existence. Kind of like nothing really matters.
That's not the lesson one ought to learn from this. Bojack still not being fair, and he's trying to rationalize not improving since he's been let down, and why he doesn't try to be better in a real sense. He's a cautionary tale through and through. His life sucks. Because he did start screwed, but he chose to stay this way, and hoped her death would give him something. But that doesn't happen with shitty parents. You don't wait for them to die to get something out of it, and get mad that all you get is a FUCKIMG CHURRO.
Bojack Horseman is a cautionary tale. The deck was stacked and he let it keep fucking him and others around it. He perpetuates the misery he has. He's not a role model. Learn from him, do not repeat him. Look at his growth, but recognize where he gives up.
My father's father died yesterday and he was a person like Beatrice. When I heard I couldn't help but come back here, the line of 'my mother is gone everything is worse now' seems so pertinent. Those moments my dad always wanted that now he knows he'll never get.
The real depressing part about that sentence or acronym is that she could have said or meant either one, and it wouldn't have made a difference on how he interpreted the message.
@@kenudice9841 the entire show, but the 3 main episodes dealing with his mom the most obvious, is written and delivered so well it's amazing. The writers deserve so much praise
12:33 to 12:44 is my favorite, most relatable part. This is my relationship with my mom and sister. This part of the episode, when I first watched it, is when I started to tear up.
Holy shit. This is... woah. I’ve spent the past year of my life trying to figure out what my end-goal in life should be. Do I want to become a preacher? Do I want to become a college math professor? Do I want to take over the family business? Should I strive to be as perfect as possible in whatever I choose? What about my personal life? Should I try to make friends with people despite the fact that I can never seem to connect with anyone? Is there a “right” way to think of myself? Why should I even bother trying to live when the only reason I’m alive is because my family wants me? I don’t really matter... but neither does anyone else. Each of us are just one person out of the billions that have existed, are existing, and will exist. Even if I were to become a “powerful” presence, and have my name recorded in history, my name would still be lost to time. Even if my name is remembered forever, what the hell does that matter? The human race is so small compared to the universe (and things that could very well exist beyond)... what does it matter if I get remembered? Even with my religion, why the hell do I matter; God cares about me, but He doesn’t care about me anymore than He does the billions of other people who will bear an eternity of suffering, or the multitude of people that will be saved. What does it matter if I off myself, God has millions -possibly billions- of people from all time periods who are much better than I am, some in every single way. It’s stupid to pretend like I’m somehow one of God’s “chosen” when at any moment I could fuck up my life, and instead of helping me like a father would, God would say “whatever.” Yet, I can’t really blame God for doing so, as the human race is to God what germs are to us. I’ve realized that I need to live for myself; not for God, and not for my family. I’ve been trying to think of end-goals to work towards, to develop a drive for. I’ve thought of everything I could, from the endgame being to become as strong as possible, to becoming the fucking POTUS. Yet I have no reason for anything I do beyond avoiding stress and pressure, because I know whatever grand ambitions I could think of are pointless. The only real choice I have is to keep living. There isn’t any grand purpose that I find worth pursuing... all I have are my emotions. These stupid things that drag me through life against my will, beating me down but giving me _just_ enough incentive to keep going. There’s no logic behind them-as they don’t consider how little value I have compared to the grand picture-and they make my life a living hell. However, if I killed myself, I would lose any ability to feel “positive” emotions, my family would be overwhelmed by grief, and I’d possibly subject myself to an eternity of pain by my “loving father.” I don’t care about anything or anyone anymore. At least, not consciously. I’m not killing myself anytime soon, and I’m going to go through this life just because the alternative could very well be worse. Although I’m not (consciously) afraid of dying, I know that dying will probably cause more problems than it fixes. To everyone reading this; emotions are fucking terrible. They drag you through life against your will, beating you the entire time, but offer you as little comfort as is needed to keep you moving. Yet, that is not a reason to give up. Fuck your emotions. Fuck your belief, and fuck your family. You may be worthless in the grand scheme of things, but you still have value. Value that will be put to waste if you off yourself. I can’t tell you an answer to whatever it is you’re going through, and you’re probably tired of being told the same stupid advice over and over (especially if you’re religious). The only thing I can tell you is this, keep living. I know it sucks, and I know the idiots around you saying you can just “think depression away” aren’t helping. But keep living. I went through a period of intense self-hate, where I wanted nothing more than to sit down and wait for myself to waste away. It got to the point where I stopped caring if my family would feel bad. However, I knew that if I just waited it out and kept trying to find reason, that it’d get better-despite what I felt. And eventually, it did. It still sucks... but not as much. You don’t know if whatever comes after is better or worse than what you’re going through now. You may be hopeful that it might be better, but it very well might be an eternal fire of pain and suffering. I don’t care if you hate yourself and think you should go through that, trust me, you shouldn’t. I know you’ll hate me for repeating what you’ve been told millions of times, but keep living. Even if nobody will miss you, you still have value. If you tried to, you could kill hundreds, or save hundreds. Everyone on this planet is worthless... but everyone has value still. Realize that, and live. If not for yourself, than for me. And if not for me, than live to spite whatever idiots or negative emotions are fighting you. In the words of Cave Johnson, when life gives you lemons, use those lemons to burn life’s house down. Fuck life. And fuck you too, you beautiful bastard.
I think the reason Butterscotch continued to watch Beatrice perform during her supper club was because he remembered how when he met her, she was performing a routine. Right before he left the debutante party, Beatrice performed and he got flustered and left. Maybe he was looking at her like “if only I had known then.”
Something interesting to me, a person who speaks portuguese, is when he says "i don't want to transform this EUlogy into a MElogy" 'cause "me" in portuguese is "eu" and I always laugh so hard ????
Because now I know I will never have a mother who looks at me from across the room and says “Bojack horseman, I see you.” That is one of the saddest and deepest lines I’ve heard in film and television. Stuck with me since the first time I watched this episode and I’ll never forget it.
This monologue hurts. It hurts to the point that it brings me to tears every time. I have always had a bad relationship with my dad. Nothing I do is enough, even though all I want is to make him proud of me. But as I get older, I get more apathetic about making him happy. But I can't deny that being his daughter is part of who I am. I'm sad that this is what I'll feel when he passes.
I remember I was crying when I saw this episode then at the end where he asked "is this funeral parlor B?" I started laughing through my tears...such a rollercoaster of emotion.
I feel like we all have a “Becker” in regards to tv shows. For me, it was Edward Burns’ “Public Morals.” I’m a fan of Burns, and I wanted his show to work out. But despite having some genuinely great characters, interesting story potential, and one of the best tv intro songs I’ve ever heard, the show got bogged down by too many storylines that didn’t get enough attention or else got way too much attention. I was hoping that Burns would figure things out with a second season, but he never got that chance. It was a real shame.
Dad died suddenly. It was that Midnight Gospel episode. And this. A parent dying shatters you. And you're gonna experience it. Worst rite of passage ever. Wherever you are, Whenever you read this. Love you.
My mother (who is fucking awful) once saw me watching this episode listened for a few minutes and when she realized just how much Bojack hates his mother she asked me if i’ll talk about her like bojack did after she dies (I will) 🤭
comparing the death of a parent to becker is exactly what i could never quite find the words to say before i saw this episode. and it's exactly true. i didn't even realize that i was holding out hope for us to have a relationship, for him to be a better person, for him to truly love me. until he died. and i couldn't really mourn my father. he was a shitty person and he was hardly in my life and i always felt like he wished that my sister and i didn't exist - or at least that we weren't his children. i had no father to grieve. all i had was the certainty that i will never have a father who loves me. my father died, and everything is worse now. my mother, who had divorced him many years ago, said she was just glad he couldn't disappoint me and my sister ever again. we had spent our whole childhoods with noses pressed against the front windows waiting for him to show up. the times when he Did show up, he was usually late. he always walked in reeking of cigarettes. there were a few times when he straight up walked out of a visit because he said my sister and i were bickering too much or whatever. we'll never wait for him by the front door just to get a call flaking out again. he'll never be too drunk to show up again. he will never have another opportunity to make us feel unloved. my father died, and everything is better now.
This episode hits differently after you finish season 6. It shows how self centered and egotistical his nature truly is, despite his desire to do what he thinks is right after it’s too late.
when i got to this episode i was gonna skip it after realizing it’s literally just bojack talking, but then i decided to give it a little more of a chance and now after i finished the show its my third favorite episode & im in love with monologues now
Part at 12:02 reminds me of that song by the mountain goats from moral orel. "I am drowning, there is no sign of land, but you're coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand."
As a person who never had a relationship with her mother i always told myself that I don’t want to connect with her.Only when i saw this episode for the first time i realized that she’ll die someday and ill think to myself : l always thought we would have a relationship at some point and now that there is no chance. Now I’m aware of it but still find it impossible to connect.I don’t know how does that make me feel too. The feeling is hard to express.Maybe its the loss of tiny bit of hope that you never wanted to hold on but still did.Anyways this episode had a place in my heart.
If it's repairable, repair it. People change and grow. If it's not you either continue on and possibly regret it or you try and regret trying. I cut my mom out of my life much later than I should have but my relationship with her is unique and just like everyone else... you have to make decisions based off how you feel.
According to my dad, this is basically the eulogy his father (my grandfather) gave at his mother's (my great-grandmother's) funeral. She, apparently, was a mean person.
Many people have been disappointed with Eminem’s albums after MMLP2, I think that if Eminem were to die before making another album: those people would feel the same way that Bojack felt about Becker
"i don't even know what morning means anymore. there's a joke in there, about a guy who has been to so many funerals he doesn't even know what mourning means anymore" idk why but this quote hit me in a way i can't explain
I'm italian and I watched this episode in eng for my University exam (translation audiovisual), but I didn't get the "Tuesday" 's joke. In italian it is TOTALLY different, for adaptation, I guess. Is it an idiom? I want to get it. It's important to me :(
Ciao, è una espressione che sta a significare che qualcosa che per altri sarebbe strano, per la persona in questione è la normalità. "It's just another tuesday", vale a dire che l'orrore e il disgusto facevano parte della vita di Beatrice, esattamente come i giorni della settimana. In italiano lo hanno tradotto con "giovedì" perché non abbiamo la stessa espressione idiomatica sul martedì, ma il giovedì è quasi la fine della settimana, quindi è ideale per convogliare il senso di stanchezza e disperazione derivata da una settimana tipica della - pessima - vita di Beatrice. Spero di essere stata utile
His dad died in Golden Gate park and secretariat jumped off the Golden Gate Bridge. Another reason he merges them together so much. Also it tracks that Bojack would have no idea that the mourners were not there for his mother because 1. He’s a narcissist and didn’t even think for a second that a room full of newts were strange as he’s just thinking about his “performance”, 2. He’s so estranged from his mother he would have no idea who would attend her funeral
I hate people who are like "That's so me" but I only posted this because I felt a very strong connection to this episode and I couldn't find it anywhere.... I would imagine your mom has some internal trauma, whether she dealt with it or not. I only say this because I would recommend, if she wasn't that way to you, to appreciate her stopping the intergenerational trauma and not passing it to you.. much love
when i saw this, i knew that this was what i was going to be like if one of my parents died. We were never close. It wasn't like a sudden thing. Of course at first things were ok, but as I learned to talk, we could just never agree. We started getting along less and less. And eventually, our relationship was gone. Our personalities clashed and we're just too different. My parents were immigrants, but they are far from being perfect parents. I can be grateful that I'm in a 1st world country, but i still dont like my parents. Overtime, we just hated each other. One year, i tried to fix it and i did a little bit. But i dont want to any more, so im destroying it again. I only fixed it bc of one stupid dream. For context I'm a lesbian. My parents are conservative immigrant Asian parents, yeah im getting disowned. Anyways I had a dream that she would accept me and for the first moment in a while I cried into my mother's arms, in a dream. And thats why my stupid self tried to fix our doomed relationship. It took my sister finally getting to me a year later for me to realize that my dream was just a dream. It was never supposed to me my reality. I was so foolish to even get my hopes up for a dream. I felt so stupid when i finally realized i did this for a fuckinh dream. And i think i always knew it. I always knew that this was foolish. I know that it was hopeless. but i didnt want to think about it. And to be fair, even if i wasnt gay, our relationship still wouldn't be here. We're just too different. Eventually we just became strangers who live together. idk where to go, but i just knew the day would come. we mustve been sworn enemies in our past lives forced to be family in this life and now we suffer the consequences. its almost comical, but its sad. mostly sad. idk i would have a monologue in their funeral. talking about where it all went wrong.
Actually, I believe it was meant to be ambiguous. She was too far gone by that point, so it was hard to interpret what she was saying. Maybe she _was_ reading the sign, but for all we know, she could've just as well been referring to BoJack.
@@jasobres I'm pretty sure she was just reading the sign. It was no different than when she said she had a son that was also a star, but she was only talking about the actual sun
Kind of ironic that with the whole "I see you" theme, it takes Bojack 20 minutes to see that he's in the wrong room. In so many ways, he's just as self-obsessed and unaware of the people around him as Beatrice was.
Why would he assume that his mom didn't have only lizard-people friends?
I think he might have just been distracted by how his mom was dead
Wow the irony
@@misanthropy152 Lizards are cold-blooded reptiles
to be fair w this specific thing, i think he was just talking to her as if she were actually listening. i still agree though lol it is what it is he can't know any better than what he was shown. also, wouldn't you be if your mom treated you like shit 'sing the stupid song', you make it against all odds and become famous and it's still not enough for her?
I think it was around minute 3 of this episode I realized “holy shit, this entire episode is gonna be a Bojack eulogy”
Me too. I paused it and saw that he stood there through the whole episode. I had to sit there and emotionally prepare before I could press play.
Took me 10
Yeah you’re better than me. It took me 3/4 of the way before I’m like... man he’s been talking alot... oh wait... yeah this is a whole eulogy episode.
I didn't realize that until the episode ended
@LEO_ EM me too
_"I... see... you... jesus christ, we were in the Intensive Care Unit-"_ this one line never fails to beat the hsit out of me in the face
I gasped when he said that. It was like a punch to the gut.
You and me both.
It's even worse when you realize it by yourself.
It beat the shit out of you only because it couldn't beat a dead horse.
Knock once if you like my joke.
honestly left speechless after the realization that in the last moments with her own son, the importance of a sign meant more to her than bojack did
It kills me that he cannot even bring himself to say "Sarah Lynn died", even after being able to mention that Herb did... it's like he can't admit it to himself
rkgk1517 [SPOILER]
his denial is even more disturbing now that we know what actually happened at the planetarium.
JC Not :
He never actually knew her that well?
JC Not Exactly! All this time it was a horrific signal to us that what we knew about what happened wasn’t the full story. Bojack knew the truth, though, and he hid it from everyone except himself.
17 minutes.
@@jcnot9712 Keep in mind that the episode after Sarah Lynn's death is when he gives his 20-second "I'm poison" schpeel, and then runs away for about a year.
Sarah Lynn's death is going to haunt BoJack for the rest of his life.
This monologue is in a class of its own. At college, we learnt that with monologues, sometimes a character can go monologuing about a point one minute and change the whole point of it in a matter of minutes. How Bojack took the statement as “I see you”, but later realised it was actually “ICU” is perfectly timed and well performed on the realisation of it. To be able to perform it so fluidity and with such relatable themes of human relationships and regrets of mistakes is an achievement in it’s own.
This life is full of disappointment.
The entire show is very cleverly, very tightly written, and this episode is no exception. The writers for this show KNEW what they were doing. It's no wonder a lot of aspiring actors have chosen THIS as their monologue of choice to act out in recent years
I agree with you.
"It's not true but it's a good story"
Sometimes i just want to hug bojack so bad
When my mom dies I'm going to make up who she was. I don't like her but I want to be able to relate to people.
You don’t want to hug BoJack lol
I feel that but then I remember who he is
I did this monologue for my drama class in college got an A+ it wasn't easy but i knew I had to get it right to preserve the emotion of this scene
If you have a recording of it. Please post it to UA-cam.
yo did ya just plagiarized a nextflix show XD anywho thats awsome i wanna see
No proof, no thanks.
@@y.9645 I told the professor it was from this show so technically it wasn't plagergism
@@benmasclans4 That was an odd1sout joke
apologizes if that wasn't clear
The ICU moment hit me way harder than I would’ve thought it would. He put hoped so much that his mom had finally acknowledged him before she died, only to find out she was reading a sign behind him
Because she "saw" right through that narcassistic hunk of shit(Bojack Horseman).
15:54 “You can call Horsin’ Around dumb, or bad, or unrealistic, but there’s nothing than realistic than that. You never get a happy ending, because there’s always more show... I guess until there isn’t.” Now that it’s over I see the writers were talking about Bojack itself.
‘I’m your son. All I had was you.’
That fucking gets me every time I hear it
My personal opinion.
Bojack should have gotten married probably with Princess Carolyn and had a few kids.
He must have become somehow a toxic, abusive dad, but he would have been probably an OK dad.
Especially with Princess Carolyn.
But Bojack was too afraid of having kids (S1 E1) because he was abused by parents.
To me personally, that is an ordinary but very powerful message of this show.
@@aik3874 His fantasy with Charlotte and dream child Harper suggest he might have been. But I think he still needed a long road of healing and work at the end and he wasn't in a place to do that.
My dad legit told me that this is the eulogy he will deliver at his moms funeral. She is exactly like Beatrice.
I feel for your dad. I've been debating a similar thing with my mom. She's acted like her and a bit like Butterscotch. At the beginning when he forced a Thank you it hit close to home.
@@rabbit0664 "Thank youuuuuuu"
Did your grandfather die in a duel?
@@LibertyGunsBeerTrump no but he did die a week ago because he starved himself to death
@@LibertyGunsBeerTrump you owe media a free churro
Bojack Horseman is over and everything is worse now
Well, it was nice while it lasted
Best Thing That Ever Happened
Ayeeee😜
Because it will truly never get better for anyone in it
I recommend checking out "Undone" on amazon prime. It's co-created by Raphael Bob-Waksberg and Kate Purdy, another writer from Bojack Horseman.
That "All I had was you" broke me
Fucking ditto... I'm not a guy who says a character is "so me" but I relate a little too much to Bojack and I cried when he said that line
@@SalsBrain I think at some point everyone had something or a person that meant everything to us, but it got away or let us down at some point, I think that's why everyone can identify themselves on that line.
The worst part is that you don't know if you should feel upset or not, after all, they're people as well, who make mistakes and have flaws. Maybe we all think we're so special that the people most close to us would never betray our trust. Even tho there's no reason to believe it at all.
And Bojack couldn't cry in front of anyone, you could tell how his voice was breaking how hard it hit him.
Whenever I listen to this it feels like I'm listening to a real person, a flawed character whom I can relate to even though I don't have the same treatment from my parents. This show is something real.
the creator or writers said they wrote bojack to be a shitty person that no one can relate to
@@yeseniasanchez1027 well, if that's true they failed miserably, or rather awesome-ly(?)
@@yeseniasanchez1027 he's definitely a shitty person and I hope most people don't relate to his worst possible actions (penny, Sarah Lynn, generally being too self absorbed to worry about how his actions and words effect others), but there's a whole episode showcasing his internal depression monolog and his deepest insecurities about his own guilt and loneliness so I think many people can relate to aspects of his character such as that. As a generality, we've all done something we've or someone else has considered shitty before, and this show in a way shows us everything we shouldn't do to deal with that, and by the end i felt like I got a good takeaway on how to handle these emotions more effectively. Maybe if bojack learned to earlier, we wouldn't have gotten to the deepest pits of Rock bottom with penny and Sarah Lynn, and being hopelessly addicted to drugs.
16:37 - 16:50
That was the moment I teared up, by far the saddest part of the episode. It was that tragic epiphany where he realized that the one thing he could have POSSIBLY held onto, POSSIBLY used as the smallest proof that hidden behind all of her own demons, the darkness within her heart, there was a small ray of light and love she shined onto her son during her final moments. It was then that he truly understood his mother had never done a single act of kindness for him in his life, that she'd been too consumed with her own sense of self-pity and misery to actually be a decent mother to her only child. If she'd just mocked him like Bojack said she expected she would, that would've been bad, sure, but he was expecting that. He could handle that, since that's what he'd experienced all his life. At the very least, he wouldn't have been filled with that small bit of misplaced hope that his mother had actually cared about him, that she'd finally decided to give the long overdue affection, even if it was kind of an insult to do it after so long. But as he stands there, it's as if a freight train hits him, the terrible fall that came from such a very small up he thought he'd received. Jesus Christ, that's so depressing...
Right after that when he says "my mom died, and all I got was a free churro", the face he makes. I couldn't hold my tears. The show has such a basic animation, and it's just a horse...but in combination with it's writing and performances it's so expressive and relatable. Also, the pause he makes between those bits is just chilling.
Bojack describing his mothers copse as a pissed off toy dinosaur is actually exactly the kind of eulogy Beatrice deserved.
Gonna be honest the “grand gestures aren’t enough” part changed my life. Can’t believe a show about a talking horse had to make me realize this lmao
This show was truly amazing
"...and one time she smoke an entire cigarette in one long inhale, i watched her do it"
wow
That one long inhale is actually shown in Times Arrow. It’s during the scene where. Beatrice gives Bojack the painting and she smokes a cigarette.
The pure irony in that he talks so much about his parents being self-absorbed but by the end he couldn't even realize he was giving a eulogy at the wrong parlor is 👌👌👌
You know, it’s strange. My childhood was nowhere near as bad as Bojack’s, but I’m at that point in my life where I don’t really know how to feel about my mother. I don’t feel like I hate her, but I can’t really bring myself to really love her, either. She’s not a bad person I don’t think, but her influence in my life has been so detrimental in a lot of ways, it’s really difficult to be around her lately. And I always felt guilty about that. I know she did her best and is still doing her best, but now, because I tried so hard to live up to her expectations, I kind of hate myself for it. I became a perfectionist thanks to her, so now I’m afraid of ever failing and trying new things, my life is at a standstill. And she’s the type of person to always put her foot down, so I know she’s not really going to listen to me. She’s just going to turn around and blame me for my mediocrity. I’m so tired.
I can't speak to your life, I don't know you or anything about it. I will say, however, that cutting toxic people out of your life is super beneficial. And not just obviously toxic but also people who just don't bring you up or make you feel good or happy. I had a horrible relationship with my mother but for some reason I kept her around. Once I got her out of my life not much changed but I feel 10x better knowing I no longer need to even think about her
I can relate to that completely. I hope things have improved for you. * *Big Hig* *
@Queen_Bratz kind of sounds like your step dad had a lot in common with Bojack.
At least she tried. Mine didn't.
How many shows can you watch where you listen to a character talk for twenty straight minutes and still enjoy it
None. I don't think any other show could hold me that long with so few visual breaks
@@SalsBrain its a "bottle episode" and quite common on tv shows
@@hasan_z can you please reference some? I would love to check them out and compare.
@@SalsBrain There are 1-2 episodes (very roughly speaking as it's been awhile) of Re:Zero that are basically just one very long conversation. And it's an amazing show with heavy emotions.
@@SalsBrain i think “fly” from breaking bad would count. i can’t think of any others off the top of my head
"She knew what it's like to feel your entire life like you're drowning, with the exception of these moments. These very rare, brief instances, in which you suddenly remember...you can swim."
This was an absolute tour de force of dramatic and comedy writing. Twisted into one titan of a monologue. Delivered by Will Arnett so impeccably. I laughed. I cried. I felt empty inside, yet strangely relieved. This is quite possibly the best singular show episode I've ever seen in my life. It is perfection.
2:00 "Kind of like a pissed off toy dinosaur"
It just hit me.
Bojack is really at a funeral for a "Lizard" family. What if calling Lizards or any of the reptiles of this world a "Dinosaur" is like calling someone a racial slur?
If so that makes the final reveal even more awkward.
I think on this world racial slurs would be “scaler”
I assumed that dinosaurs did once exist in this universe, but they were human-like as well
In Snoot Game (the better Goodbye Volcano High) the racial slur for dinosaurs were meteor dodgers.
Imagine being called a "furious barbie doll". That's probably what this was like from their perspective.
I actually kind of like this audio. It sounds like Bojack recorded the eulogy on a tape recorder.
The echoing makes it seem more realistic
I had to capture off Netflix on my phone, leave my phone outside in the rain(inside was too noisy with children), run the video to audio(I intended on posting the video at first but changed my mind), then process the audio with a picture on the converter.... When I listened the the final result I didn't feel like it was too bad
Sals Brain the result was very good. If they did it in the actual show it would sound more realistic and better
You look like a fucked up klaus from American Dad
@@lilbean4606 who?
You think you know how sad his life is, then you watch this ep... and you realize that you know nothing about it
No monologue, ever, has so thoroughly convinced me of nihilism. *slow clap, single tear runs down cheek*
This is art.
Care to explain nihilism?
Rafael 37 well the philosophical meaning is : extreme skepticism maintaining that nothing in the world has a real existence. Kind of like nothing really matters.
That's not the lesson one ought to learn from this. Bojack still not being fair, and he's trying to rationalize not improving since he's been let down, and why he doesn't try to be better in a real sense. He's a cautionary tale through and through. His life sucks. Because he did start screwed, but he chose to stay this way, and hoped her death would give him something. But that doesn't happen with shitty parents. You don't wait for them to die to get something out of it, and get mad that all you get is a FUCKIMG CHURRO.
Bojack Horseman is a cautionary tale. The deck was stacked and he let it keep fucking him and others around it. He perpetuates the misery he has. He's not a role model. Learn from him, do not repeat him. Look at his growth, but recognize where he gives up.
@Ded forlyfe EXACTLY
My father's father died yesterday and he was a person like Beatrice. When I heard I couldn't help but come back here, the line of 'my mother is gone everything is worse now' seems so pertinent. Those moments my dad always wanted that now he knows he'll never get.
"I see you"
"ICU"
The real depressing part about that sentence or acronym is that she could have said or meant either one, and it wouldn't have made a difference on how he interpreted the message.
@@kenudice9841 the entire show, but the 3 main episodes dealing with his mom the most obvious, is written and delivered so well it's amazing. The writers deserve so much praise
Knock once if you love me and care for me,and I made your life a little bit brighter...
Ana Mari saddd
12:33 to 12:44 is my favorite, most relatable part. This is my relationship with my mom and sister. This part of the episode, when I first watched it, is when I started to tear up.
“ICU”
When he comes to that realization, oooff😭😭
It's impressive she could read
Holy shit. This is... woah. I’ve spent the past year of my life trying to figure out what my end-goal in life should be. Do I want to become a preacher? Do I want to become a college math professor? Do I want to take over the family business? Should I strive to be as perfect as possible in whatever I choose?
What about my personal life? Should I try to make friends with people despite the fact that I can never seem to connect with anyone? Is there a “right” way to think of myself? Why should I even bother trying to live when the only reason I’m alive is because my family wants me?
I don’t really matter... but neither does anyone else. Each of us are just one person out of the billions that have existed, are existing, and will exist. Even if I were to become a “powerful” presence, and have my name recorded in history, my name would still be lost to time. Even if my name is remembered forever, what the hell does that matter? The human race is so small compared to the universe (and things that could very well exist beyond)... what does it matter if I get remembered? Even with my religion, why the hell do I matter; God cares about me, but He doesn’t care about me anymore than He does the billions of other people who will bear an eternity of suffering, or the multitude of people that will be saved. What does it matter if I off myself, God has millions -possibly billions- of people from all time periods who are much better than I am, some in every single way. It’s stupid to pretend like I’m somehow one of God’s “chosen” when at any moment I could fuck up my life, and instead of helping me like a father would, God would say “whatever.” Yet, I can’t really blame God for doing so, as the human race is to God what germs are to us.
I’ve realized that I need to live for myself; not for God, and not for my family. I’ve been trying to think of end-goals to work towards, to develop a drive for. I’ve thought of everything I could, from the endgame being to become as strong as possible, to becoming the fucking POTUS.
Yet I have no reason for anything I do beyond avoiding stress and pressure, because I know whatever grand ambitions I could think of are pointless.
The only real choice I have is to keep living. There isn’t any grand purpose that I find worth pursuing... all I have are my emotions. These stupid things that drag me through life against my will, beating me down but giving me _just_ enough incentive to keep going. There’s no logic behind them-as they don’t consider how little value I have compared to the grand picture-and they make my life a living hell. However, if I killed myself, I would lose any ability to feel “positive” emotions, my family would be overwhelmed by grief, and I’d possibly subject myself to an eternity of pain by my “loving father.” I don’t care about anything or anyone anymore. At least, not consciously.
I’m not killing myself anytime soon, and I’m going to go through this life just because the alternative could very well be worse. Although I’m not (consciously) afraid of dying, I know that dying will probably cause more problems than it fixes.
To everyone reading this; emotions are fucking terrible. They drag you through life against your will, beating you the entire time, but offer you as little comfort as is needed to keep you moving. Yet, that is not a reason to give up. Fuck your emotions. Fuck your belief, and fuck your family. You may be worthless in the grand scheme of things, but you still have value. Value that will be put to waste if you off yourself. I can’t tell you an answer to whatever it is you’re going through, and you’re probably tired of being told the same stupid advice over and over (especially if you’re religious). The only thing I can tell you is this, keep living. I know it sucks, and I know the idiots around you saying you can just “think depression away” aren’t helping. But keep living. I went through a period of intense self-hate, where I wanted nothing more than to sit down and wait for myself to waste away. It got to the point where I stopped caring if my family would feel bad. However, I knew that if I just waited it out and kept trying to find reason, that it’d get better-despite what I felt. And eventually, it did. It still sucks... but not as much. You don’t know if whatever comes after is better or worse than what you’re going through now. You may be hopeful that it might be better, but it very well might be an eternal fire of pain and suffering. I don’t care if you hate yourself and think you should go through that, trust me, you shouldn’t.
I know you’ll hate me for repeating what you’ve been told millions of times, but keep living. Even if nobody will miss you, you still have value. If you tried to, you could kill hundreds, or save hundreds. Everyone on this planet is worthless... but everyone has value still. Realize that, and live. If not for yourself, than for me. And if not for me, than live to spite whatever idiots or negative emotions are fighting you. In the words of Cave Johnson, when life gives you lemons, use those lemons to burn life’s house down. Fuck life.
And fuck you too, you beautiful bastard.
thank you. I needed this.
Holy shit dude. That was beautiful.
Thank you for this
I enjoy how this is basically the entire episode in audio form.
16:52 man, I can feel the utter defeat in his voice...
I think the reason Butterscotch continued to watch Beatrice perform during her supper club was because he remembered how when he met her, she was performing a routine. Right before he left the debutante party, Beatrice performed and he got flustered and left.
Maybe he was looking at her like “if only I had known then.”
Something interesting to me, a person who speaks portuguese, is when he says "i don't want to transform this EUlogy into a MElogy" 'cause "me" in portuguese is "eu" and I always laugh so hard ????
Lol keep crying third worlder
Because now I know I will never have a mother who looks at me from across the room and says “Bojack horseman, I see you.” That is one of the saddest and deepest lines I’ve heard in film and television. Stuck with me since the first time I watched this episode and I’ll never forget it.
This scene HIT different when you realize you understand where Bojack is coming from, personally...
“My mom died and all I got was a free churo” holy shit
My dad died, and I didn’t even get a free churro. But I really relate to the Becker part. Now the chance is gone.
This monologue hurts. It hurts to the point that it brings me to tears every time. I have always had a bad relationship with my dad. Nothing I do is enough, even though all I want is to make him proud of me. But as I get older, I get more apathetic about making him happy. But I can't deny that being his daughter is part of who I am. I'm sad that this is what I'll feel when he passes.
This hits harder for me since this is the first full year I 100% cut contact with my whole family.
Sometimes we have to do it
I remember I was crying when I saw this episode then at the end where he asked "is this funeral parlor B?"
I started laughing through my tears...such a rollercoaster of emotion.
Holy shit, this is the best monologue I've ever listened to.
"The only thing u wanted all long was to be seen."
I feel like we all have a “Becker” in regards to tv shows. For me, it was Edward Burns’ “Public Morals.” I’m a fan of Burns, and I wanted his show to work out. But despite having some genuinely great characters, interesting story potential, and one of the best tv intro songs I’ve ever heard, the show got bogged down by too many storylines that didn’t get enough attention or else got way too much attention. I was hoping that Burns would figure things out with a second season, but he never got that chance. It was a real shame.
I need a "my mom died and all I got was a free churro" shirt
My dad can relate to this but he wont admit it. He's so desperate to be "seen" by his mother but she's too afraid to love because its hurt her
listening some lo fi with this at the same time, trippy
Dad died suddenly.
It was that Midnight Gospel episode.
And this.
A parent dying shatters you.
And you're gonna experience it.
Worst rite of passage ever.
Wherever you are,
Whenever you read this.
Love you.
Naw when my ahole mom dies I'll be like finally!!!
My mother (who is fucking awful) once saw me watching this episode listened for a few minutes and when she realized just how much Bojack hates his mother she asked me if i’ll talk about her like bojack did after she dies
(I will) 🤭
comparing the death of a parent to becker is exactly what i could never quite find the words to say before i saw this episode. and it's exactly true. i didn't even realize that i was holding out hope for us to have a relationship, for him to be a better person, for him to truly love me. until he died. and i couldn't really mourn my father. he was a shitty person and he was hardly in my life and i always felt like he wished that my sister and i didn't exist - or at least that we weren't his children. i had no father to grieve. all i had was the certainty that i will never have a father who loves me. my father died, and everything is worse now.
my mother, who had divorced him many years ago, said she was just glad he couldn't disappoint me and my sister ever again. we had spent our whole childhoods with noses pressed against the front windows waiting for him to show up. the times when he Did show up, he was usually late. he always walked in reeking of cigarettes. there were a few times when he straight up walked out of a visit because he said my sister and i were bickering too much or whatever. we'll never wait for him by the front door just to get a call flaking out again. he'll never be too drunk to show up again. he will never have another opportunity to make us feel unloved. my father died, and everything is better now.
This episode hits differently after you finish season 6. It shows how self centered and egotistical his nature truly is, despite his desire to do what he thinks is right after it’s too late.
this is by far the best episode in the entire series imo
Definitely is
This had to be life inspired.
My dad died relatively suddenly (pancreatic cancer is a bitch) a few weeks back and it's amazing how this monologue completely sums up how I feel
My dad's been dead for almost three years now and that line still gets me because it's true.
My father is dead, and everything is worse now.
This hurts so much
R I C C hi
Hi?
Feel like everyone hating on bojacks personality, you get him, right?
John Collins Wambua Yeah, he is fucked up, but at the very least he is trying to get better, it wasn’t his fault at all to get so shitty parents.
true. I feel for him. its funny hw poor parenting can take a toll on kids
15:45 bojack horseman in a nutshell. I fucken love this show so much. Sad it's ending but glad I happened to stumble upon it
when i got to this episode i was gonna skip it after realizing it’s literally just bojack talking, but then i decided to give it a little more of a chance and now after i finished the show its my third favorite episode & im in love with monologues now
Oh my god he’s at the wrong funeral 🤦♂️
This was one of the best shows ever writen.
I really want to do this for Pros and Poetry next year! Such a killer script!
Part at 12:02 reminds me of that song by the mountain goats from moral orel.
"I am drowning, there is no sign of land, but you're coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand."
I didn't appreciate this episode when I saw it the first time, but the next few times it really hit me how good this script was.
I loved those odd angles where he looks up and thinks.
As a person who never had a relationship with her mother i always told myself that I don’t want to connect with her.Only when i saw this episode for the first time i realized that she’ll die someday and ill think to myself : l always thought we would have a relationship at some point and now that there is no chance.
Now I’m aware of it but still find it impossible to connect.I don’t know how does that make me feel too.
The feeling is hard to express.Maybe its the loss of tiny bit of hope that you never wanted to hold on but still did.Anyways this episode had a place in my heart.
If it's repairable, repair it. People change and grow. If it's not you either continue on and possibly regret it or you try and regret trying. I cut my mom out of my life much later than I should have but my relationship with her is unique and just like everyone else... you have to make decisions based off how you feel.
so entire episode minus the other monologue
this is probably one of the best things i've ever experienced from, not only netflix, but entertaintment in general.
According to my dad, this is basically the eulogy his father (my grandfather) gave at his mother's (my great-grandmother's) funeral. She, apparently, was a mean person.
Many people have been disappointed with Eminem’s albums after MMLP2, I think that if Eminem were to die before making another album: those people would feel the same way that Bojack felt about Becker
this hits different lol when u think that bojack is talking at the wrong funeral lololol
Personally I believe this to be the saddest and most relatable episode of the whole show
"....my mother is dead & everything is worse now." 💔
Thankyou for posting this.
❤️ I couldn't find it and I knew I couldn't be the only one looking
3:20 - 4:23
10:44 - 12:38
16:51 - 18:54 (18:05)
I just like these moments in the video and want them timestamped.
"i don't even know what morning means anymore. there's a joke in there, about a guy who has been to so many funerals he doesn't even know what mourning means anymore"
idk why but this quote hit me in a way i can't explain
sometimes this makes me think of those reddit posts
That was a great listen.
No way bro just posted the whole video on youtube
things you're thankful you can't relate to
i’m going to memorize this and say it at my moms funeral when it happens
I thought the same thing lol
I love the piano man😂😂😂
I'm italian and I watched this episode in eng for my University exam (translation audiovisual), but I didn't get the "Tuesday" 's joke. In italian it is TOTALLY different, for adaptation, I guess. Is it an idiom? I want to get it. It's important to me :(
Ciao, è una espressione che sta a significare che qualcosa che per altri sarebbe strano, per la persona in questione è la normalità. "It's just another tuesday", vale a dire che l'orrore e il disgusto facevano parte della vita di Beatrice, esattamente come i giorni della settimana. In italiano lo hanno tradotto con "giovedì" perché non abbiamo la stessa espressione idiomatica sul martedì, ma il giovedì è quasi la fine della settimana, quindi è ideale per convogliare il senso di stanchezza e disperazione derivata da una settimana tipica della - pessima - vita di Beatrice.
Spero di essere stata utile
His dad died in Golden Gate park and secretariat jumped off the Golden Gate Bridge. Another reason he merges them together so much.
Also it tracks that Bojack would have no idea that the mourners were not there for his mother because 1. He’s a narcissist and didn’t even think for a second that a room full of newts were strange as he’s just thinking about his “performance”, 2. He’s so estranged from his mother he would have no idea who would attend her funeral
I still love that it ends with him doing all of this at the wrong funeral
That poor little boy
i feel this shit so hard.
this is how my mom talks about her mom
I hate people who are like "That's so me" but I only posted this because I felt a very strong connection to this episode and I couldn't find it anywhere.... I would imagine your mom has some internal trauma, whether she dealt with it or not. I only say this because I would recommend, if she wasn't that way to you, to appreciate her stopping the intergenerational trauma and not passing it to you.. much love
I cut my family off. They abused me my whole life. Im probably going to go to this episode when my mother dies. Or when I find out she died
This is an excellent podcast
when i saw this, i knew that this was what i was going to be like if one of my parents died.
We were never close. It wasn't like a sudden thing. Of course at first things were ok, but as I learned to talk, we could just never agree. We started getting along less and less. And eventually, our relationship was gone. Our personalities clashed and we're just too different.
My parents were immigrants, but they are far from being perfect parents. I can be grateful that I'm in a 1st world country, but i still dont like my parents.
Overtime, we just hated each other. One year, i tried to fix it and i did a little bit. But i dont want to any more, so im destroying it again.
I only fixed it bc of one stupid dream. For context I'm a lesbian. My parents are conservative immigrant Asian parents, yeah im getting disowned.
Anyways I had a dream that she would accept me and for the first moment in a while I cried into my mother's arms, in a dream. And thats why my stupid self tried to fix our doomed relationship.
It took my sister finally getting to me a year later for me to realize that my dream was just a dream. It was never supposed to me my reality.
I was so foolish to even get my hopes up for a dream. I felt so stupid when i finally realized i did this for a fuckinh dream.
And i think i always knew it. I always knew that this was foolish. I know that it was hopeless. but i didnt want to think about it.
And to be fair, even if i wasnt gay, our relationship still wouldn't be here. We're just too different.
Eventually we just became strangers who live together.
idk where to go, but i just knew the day would come.
we mustve been sworn enemies in our past lives forced to be family in this life and now we suffer the consequences. its almost comical, but its sad. mostly sad.
idk i would have a monologue in their funeral. talking about where it all went wrong.
I’m listening to this on the side of the road rn after getting into a fight w my mom
I should have given this Eulogy for my father.
will arnet my beloved 😙
12:09 does anybody knows the name of the song?
carmen a. gonzalez rios picnic for two by frank tapp
When Bojack comes to the conclusion that she was just reading the sign 💔
yeah that was a horrible way of making a realization. Realizing that he didn't get what he wanted, to be acknowledged.
Actually, I believe it was meant to be ambiguous. She was too far gone by that point, so it was hard to interpret what she was saying. Maybe she _was_ reading the sign, but for all we know, she could've just as well been referring to BoJack.
I took it as her reading the sign. I agree, it was really heartbreaking.
Wait I'm confused.
What sign?
EDIT: Nevermind I figured it out.
I'm stupid.
English isn't my native language so I was clueless :'D
@@jasobres I'm pretty sure she was just reading the sign. It was no different than when she said she had a son that was also a star, but she was only talking about the actual sun
"I see you"