Forza developers have lost their minds...

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  • Опубліковано 19 вер 2024
  • Some hot takes regarding the current state of Forza Horizon 5. The DLC's, graphics, updates, sounds and the convoy feature.
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  • @Goosiest
    @Goosiest  5 місяців тому +216

    Question of the day: *How much have you spent on games this year?*

  • @FizzyTonic
    @FizzyTonic 5 місяців тому +135

    8:39 That last time I was blown away by a car game was BeamNG and it still blows me away. The only reason it's good because it actually has people who care about their game. Everyone who cared for forza was probably either fired or quite.

    • @Katalina_baketsu
      @Katalina_baketsu 5 місяців тому +2

      it was need for speed heat me but maybe 3 month after make me vomit that i buy this and regret it now even with mod ect the game was dead in 1 year only 0 update nothing the game have horrible ai and it was fkcing easy you can do the game with fkcing golf gti

    • @TE_53349
      @TE_53349 5 місяців тому +4

      beam ng is just getting better and better. it actually has a larger player base than carx and fh5

    • @Bambeakz
      @Bambeakz 4 місяці тому

      Automobilista 2 in VR for me

    • @calebroberts2179
      @calebroberts2179 4 місяці тому

      the microsoft effect

    • @zerosd15ds43
      @zerosd15ds43 4 місяці тому

      @@calebroberts2179 i think people forget that games like forza started out as a tech demo to show off the incredible power of the xbox console. and every new forza reminds you by telling yuo how pretty it is and how much of the hardware its taking advantage of.

  • @VarVarJeg
    @VarVarJeg 5 місяців тому +40

    imagine spending 180 dollars on a video game and you're STILL not getting the full game with every car!

  • @HDailyPostCars
    @HDailyPostCars 5 місяців тому +611

    Goosiest In The Last Few Weeks :
    - Complaining CarX
    - Complaining LagX
    - Complaining CarX
    - Complaining FH5
    - Imposing BeamNG

    • @Quesarr
      @Quesarr 5 місяців тому +8

      Lol true😂

    • @beamngcrash134
      @beamngcrash134 5 місяців тому +100

      but its true that those games are bad and beamng is good. he's just being honest now

    • @kmsadiq8665
      @kmsadiq8665 5 місяців тому +4

      Fax

    • @fabianwarchol3282
      @fabianwarchol3282 5 місяців тому +18

      But it's True LIKE compare FH5 updates and BeamNG updates

    • @Croxy115
      @Croxy115 5 місяців тому +16

      well at least he's honest

  • @ronnieketchum1241
    @ronnieketchum1241 5 місяців тому +50

    This happens to every single company. Too much success is NEVER good.

  • @Samara99x
    @Samara99x 5 місяців тому +540

    Forza it’s gone shit bro, remember playing amazing horizon 1 on my 360 beautiful times 😢😢

    • @Leon83858
      @Leon83858 5 місяців тому +16

      100% Agree they schuld remaster FH 1 & 2 with new textures, resolution & framerate and bring it on pc

    • @Scratch334Original
      @Scratch334Original 5 місяців тому +15

      Lmao, thats funny how people are trying to say that old games are better even though its purely nostalgia based opinion
      In reality FH5 is literally on its peak rn, having tons of new VOTED cars added to the game and for the last 4 months devs have been absolutely cooking in terms of good cars being added in the game

    • @deeperatmosphere
      @deeperatmosphere 5 місяців тому +18

      ​​@@Scratch334Original Dude it's no secret that the early games in every series are for the Player and fun.. meanwhile gaming changed in the last 5-10 years to an underdelivering greed infused Joke.
      They can deliver cars on weekly bases, when the Game doesn't work as promised or you have to go through a paywall everytime something new or nice comes that's just a sad Joke.
      That the new games deliver in the graphics department is true, but the fun factor is starving out in gaming.

    • @Pet_Hedgehog
      @Pet_Hedgehog 5 місяців тому +7

      @@Scratch334Original yes but for the time those games were amazing, fh5 compared to other racing games is shit

    • @Dany126PL
      @Dany126PL 5 місяців тому

      @@Leon83858 xenia exist if you want FH1 on pc.
      Also its not that easy as "just remaster" what if company that was in game don't exist anymore? You know how much pain is getting licences for not existing anymore companies?

  • @Mach6Racing
    @Mach6Racing 5 місяців тому +61

    its sad to know that the golden era of games is behind us yeah games look nice but most of the time nowadays you get an unfinished game or companies just out to make as much money as possible just like goose i remember a time where when you bought a game you didnt have to pay to unlock a integral part of a game you just had to work for it its just sad to see how these once mighty games have fallen into these paths

    • @Goosiest
      @Goosiest  5 місяців тому +7

      facts

    • @shogunmyoung9932
      @shogunmyoung9932 5 місяців тому

      Agree with it to some extent, but it is what it is.

    • @wolfbad512
      @wolfbad512 4 місяці тому

      It's not that bad

    • @TheDude778
      @TheDude778 4 місяці тому

      Just like Activision did with CoD
      The battle pass and new bundles every day is ridiculous
      People pay $70 for a game then they want 100s more for extra shit that should have already been in the game from the start

    • @ケイータKeiyta
      @ケイータKeiyta 4 місяці тому

      @@wolfbad512Considering the fact that you have a Genshin pfp, i don’t know if your opinion can be taken into account

  • @tibornagyb4879
    @tibornagyb4879 5 місяців тому +169

    If i wanted to get scammed i would just pay for iracing.

    • @nikolaig1
      @nikolaig1 4 місяці тому

      Shots fired😂😂😂

    • @Twiggo_The_Foxxo
      @Twiggo_The_Foxxo 4 місяці тому

      How is the Forza scamming you exactly?

    • @aaronwestley3239
      @aaronwestley3239 4 місяці тому

      Good thing i got mine from ova games ;)

    • @trainz8007
      @trainz8007 4 місяці тому +9

      @@Twiggo_The_Foxxo Stop

    • @russelrust2753
      @russelrust2753 4 місяці тому +5

      @@Twiggo_The_Foxxoride it a little more! Turn10 is getting close

  • @guilhermes.pereira1671
    @guilhermes.pereira1671 4 місяці тому +14

    The downfall of forza started when devs started focusing on the ignorant major casual playerbase, whom don't minr paying for mid content and completely abandoned the car enthusiasts who made forza famous and loved in the first place. That's the problem with big companies nowadays, once they see the greens are starting to increase on their accounts, greed kicks in and all honesty and love for the content they produce is gone, the most famous case being EA, and now Microsoft is going the same way. The problem about mainstream triple A games nowadays is that they ain't made with love anymore, they're made and designed strategically to suck every penny out of the playerbase who have no other choice but to pay if they want to play with something new

  • @beamngcrash134
    @beamngcrash134 5 місяців тому +112

    its not new that forza have lost their mind, it happens every time:) stay sideways!

    • @facedays6441
      @facedays6441 5 місяців тому +1

      Hey there goose. I love you. But if i dont answer this comment in 1 day. I have endes my life. Bye

    • @CaptainCringle
      @CaptainCringle 5 місяців тому +3

      @@facedays6441 lol what rlly is ur point in life?

    • @poppachoppa8956
      @poppachoppa8956 4 місяці тому +1

      @@CaptainCringle hes dead now move on

    • @frazebean5117
      @frazebean5117 4 місяці тому

      ​@@facedays6441ok bro what ever

  • @Duvstep910
    @Duvstep910 5 місяців тому +68

    I bought the premium edition on sale and it pissed me off that the car is listed with its price as in game credits but when I clicked on it it took me to the store where I had to pay REAL MONEY. That's why we hate the DLC

    • @dexstarksmarforcom7616
      @dexstarksmarforcom7616 5 місяців тому

      You could have just paid the Xbox live thing with multiple games we have access to for free there’s nothing different between premium and the monthly subscription fee for the thousands of games literally no difference

    • @7withadot
      @7withadot 5 місяців тому

      @@dexstarksmarforcom7616 it's a great service and all but some people just want to OWN their games which is entirely fair

    • @FcoEnriquePerez
      @FcoEnriquePerez 5 місяців тому +1

      Shit lol
      I was about to come back and buy the car pass or ultimate, fuck this shit

    • @dexstarksmarforcom7616
      @dexstarksmarforcom7616 5 місяців тому +1

      @@FcoEnriquePerez it’s a waste and we still don’t have any explanation as to why they did that either

  • @baller5087
    @baller5087 5 місяців тому +61

    what i like is goosiest have a goose plushie and also still have a steering wheel

    • @emmanuelbhebhe4979
      @emmanuelbhebhe4979 5 місяців тому +4

      Miss the days were first was about racing and finishing the game

    • @DrexAW
      @DrexAW 5 місяців тому

      @@emmanuelbhebhe4979?

  • @Joeliminator
    @Joeliminator 5 місяців тому +39

    Goose is on a role roasting car games. Can't believe Forza would do this. Forsa Motorsport - trash. Now FH5 - scam

    • @Goosiest
      @Goosiest  5 місяців тому +10

      Which game next?

    • @Dany126PL
      @Dany126PL 5 місяців тому +5

      ​@@GoosiestCarX street.

    • @Joeliminator
      @Joeliminator 5 місяців тому +6

      @@Goosiest idk.... There are still many promising car games that have ample opportunities to go to the dark side

    • @Humanbeing208
      @Humanbeing208 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@@Goosiestneed for speed unbound

    • @kjp3423
      @kjp3423 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@@GoosiestI personally wanna see you play some other games. Non car related. Your reactions on a prop hunt game would be hilarious. This type of dev greed is everywhere on all types of games. With car games they have stripped the fun out of it with all of the restrictions.. I play car games because the California department of motor vehicles has stripped my freedoms as a car owner. But now the games feel like they have those same restrictions.idk what I'm talking about now.. BUT! Your following will go with you no matter what type of game you play. I know I will, and I hope none of this bs discourages you.

  • @seeonec1
    @seeonec1 5 місяців тому +43

    missing the good old times where games were just 1 time purchase

    • @simeonyves5940
      @simeonyves5940 5 місяців тому +15

      And were not Woke, and actually worked properly.

    • @Dany126PL
      @Dany126PL 5 місяців тому +3

      ​@@simeonyves5940Woke isn't an actual word, it have no meaning so idk how games should stop being woke when such thing don't exist.

    • @jochenkraus7016
      @jochenkraus7016 5 місяців тому +3

      ​@simeonyves5940 What's woke about FH5 and what does it have to do with the DLC strategy that the video rants about?

    • @simeonyves5940
      @simeonyves5940 5 місяців тому +3

      @@jochenkraus7016 It Promotes Sexual Perversion!
      It also relates to just how downright wrong it is to Nickel and Dime us to Death then when the Game still has Extreme Pop In issues, Bleached Textures, Multiple Broken and Missing Animations, UV Mapping Errors, and multiple other Examples of a Game that is still in Beta!

    • @Dany126PL
      @Dany126PL 5 місяців тому +8

      @@simeonyves5940 Wtf? How?

  • @beamngcrash134
    @beamngcrash134 5 місяців тому +46

    forza devs right, their just greedy . They dont care about the playerbase, the community, no, none of that. They just care bout the money they make. Cuz they know that the players WILL pay to have fun but its just not right. They're being carx but WORSE rn. hope this shiet fixes soon.

    • @Goosiest
      @Goosiest  5 місяців тому +7

      true

    • @kmsadiq8665
      @kmsadiq8665 5 місяців тому

      fax

    • @shogunmyoung9932
      @shogunmyoung9932 5 місяців тому +11

      Highly disagree with this statement. Recent updates are of high quality and are highly request by the community as well. Do you think they would have done those updates if they don't care about their player base?
      I encourage you to educate yourself more about the game before saying that the devs do not care. A lot of new content they added into the game are well-received, added for the benefit of the community, and most importantly, FOR FREE. Do you think those updates will be free if they only care about money?

    • @klemenvezonik7178
      @klemenvezonik7178 5 місяців тому +1

      @@shogunmyoung9932Well said. Thanks for the info as i almost believed that they were really like that

    • @Katalina_baketsu
      @Katalina_baketsu 5 місяців тому

      @@shogunmyoung9932 they add only car 0 fkcing track on forza the sound is bad adn they know it because they shutdown one of the most used mod who make the engine sound real and backfire too ( and no i don't use mod to cheat but to have fun with aero kit and sound ) they car ok
      2 years of playing only after 2 years i buy it this game make 3 races and that's all recent update are you serious bro THEY CARE ?????????? they add dinosaur on the creator tracks shit like wtf is this joke 18go of update to just 4 new car ok 0 kit on them only the cringe forza kit they just copy paste on every new cars and dinosaurs like wtf is this is this minecraft or forza ? because here i just see lazy dev make small thing and try to hype us to play 1 hour on their game to end the season to have 20 points because you already have the other cars oh and the fkcing bmw every one sell for 12M idk why and they talk about it
      they don't know why this is possible to buy 48K a car you can sell for 12M like wtf the cheater is ban xd but record still here they kill mods xd why it was the only cool and fun part to have reall engine sound where they care sell dlc when this is only car but name this dlc because if you go buy a CAR you would not buy this but if it's names
      dlc bmw you gonna buy this because you see only car but maybe they give you somethign else ect nope
      just car for 5$ you got 4 cars with 2 fun and good to use and the other suck they have player vs player but why play here you gain nothing ? you have 0 reward lmao but they don 't add this when many ask for this

  • @dr.shikhaverma1878
    @dr.shikhaverma1878 5 місяців тому +8

    I remember the hype of this game, and FH4. Still remember playing Forza Street in 2020 and FH1 on my consoles. Kinda sad that now everyone making good things is behind money.

    • @GeeseH
      @GeeseH 4 місяці тому

      I really liked TDU & TDU2 (not the handling physics so much on that one) and distinctly remember thinking if TDU2 had more DLC I'd probably buy it, Servers went down and the company went bust. Meanwhile GTAO went dumb with DLC and is still going strong after 10 years. They have to make money! It's unfortunately not as simple as devs being under a huge umbrella and thinking the parent company can afford it.

  • @shogunmyoung9932
    @shogunmyoung9932 5 місяців тому +8

    I would like to clarify something about the DLCs, content updates and other things about the game, especially the comments about those on Steam.
    First comment: Car Pass and Car Packs are separate things. Think Car Pass as like a separate car pack on its own, and not a collection of all the car packs. Car passes have different cars than all other car packs as well.
    Also people did complain about car packs not being in the 'Ultimate Edition' or Premium Edition. I would like to clarify that there is no 'Ultimate Edition' of FH5, only premium edition. Reason why people complain about DLC not being included is because in previous Forza titles used to include all DLC packs in the Ultimate edition of those previos Forza titles , whereas this time all DLCs have to be bought separately. This explains why DLCs usually have bad reviews, but I don't think they are of bad quality since all the cars in the DLC are new to the series, not just copy pasted from older games(licensing for these cars also cost money for them).
    I will admit that DLCs releasing monthly like this is a bit of an issue for them, but at the end of the day, people like me still buy them for the new cars. Not to mention the fact that they release DLCs alongside new quality updates that are free to everyone in the game(if they try to do this during the first year when the game has lackluster updates this would be even worse). I would also like to mention that older Forza Horizon games also have a lot of car packs for them too, just doesn't need to be bought separately if you own the ultimate edition for them. It really depends on whether you like these or not
    As for the game itself, I won't really comment as it comes down to personal opinion. I would agree to things like convoy systems and online, but I disagree with things like updates having low quality
    For updates, if you are talking about the first year of the game, then yes, the updates are bad, but since series 19, the updates have been of very high quality. Lots of cars that are not present in previous games, new content updates, quality of life changes, etc. Now the game is in series 33, and in between these 14 motnhs of update, all of them are well received, with the latest one being highly anticipated and as well. For the anti-lag and graphics, this is more of a personal thing. Anti-lag may not be as exciting as AC, and some people do like the graphics of older FH games. I personally like them as they are.
    In conclusion, I want to clarify some of the things you mentioned in the video, correct some mistakes and misconceptions, as well as give my personal opinions above there. My apologies for the long comment. As a Forza Horizon player since the day the game came out, I have seen the changes made to the game throughout, and I have seen other people talk about this game's past without knowing the full game too well. I am willing to help clarify any concerns that may arise. Thank you for the video, as always, and I hope you have a great day, Goosiest.

    • @Goosiest
      @Goosiest  5 місяців тому +3

      Fair arguments, also something to mention is they are sponsored by some car brands, meaning some car brands pay money to Forza instead, not always the other way around.

    • @shogunmyoung9932
      @shogunmyoung9932 5 місяців тому +2

      @Goosiest Yes that is true and I am aware of that. A lot of car brands, like Chinese car brands and Hyundai, paid for their cars to show up in the game. Still, that is not the case for all vehicles

    • @corsa_velocity
      @corsa_velocity 5 місяців тому +2

      I agree with what you said. And for me at least, I don't think all of this is for greed. If it was for greed, then the Aston Martin Valkyrie AMR Pro, the '24 Mustang and the Nissan Tsuru would also be in a Car Pack. The devs need money to continue their service considering the game has been going on now for nearly 3 years and with no Expansions in sight, the optimal way for them to continue running and to give us a good sequel, is to release cheap DLCs alongside the normal game updates, which is also doing well. Like you said, having a new DLC every month is a bit of an issue for them, but at least it does not jeopardise the content people get for free.
      I am also on the same boat as you when it comes to the game itself. In my opinion, the quality of updates has only gotten better with new EventLab props, new features like Anti-Lag (which the devs kindly gave to us for free without the need for the Rally Adventure Expansion) and the free cars, despite some might not being everyone's taste, seems to be more themed and varied and looking at the next update, I don't think they will be slowing down anytime soon (literally lol). The colour filters also fits well considering it's location and the graphics is quite an upgrade from previous Forzas (the water spray is something I always like looking at).
      A nice video, but I think the issues comes down to what people expect rather than what is possible for a business.

    • @shogunmyoung9932
      @shogunmyoung9932 5 місяців тому +2

      @@corsa_velocity Yep, I agree to what you said. People have different expectations and knowledge about the game, so they might see it differently. Also take into the fact that different updates cater different people(for instance photo mode updates really benefit those photographers, but not so much to others). It all comes down to how you play and enjoy the game, and I don't think it's as bad as some people might think it is

    • @yusuftegar6588
      @yusuftegar6588 5 місяців тому +1

      @@corsa_velocity I think the ultimate greed move would be by putting top 10 most requested cars by the players in the Forza forums into car packs. This is not something they have done at this point.

  • @JimmyNuisance
    @JimmyNuisance 5 місяців тому +68

    I wish Polyphony would release GT7 on PC and also make a Forza Horizon style open world Gran Turismo game. Forza is in such a sketchy place, it should be possible for Polyphony to just wipe out the entire franchise by releasing on PC.

    • @Dany126PL
      @Dany126PL 5 місяців тому +7

      GT7 is the worst GT, you don't miss a lot. Beside that PD (gt7 devs) are terrible either, like adding 3 10min races for whole month if not more...

    • @TheEtherea
      @TheEtherea 5 місяців тому +7

      In a sense it's easier to just run GT6 on an emulator in the meantime. But something tells me to with how Sony keeps releasing everything on PC there is a realistic chance.

    • @mac-levin6167
      @mac-levin6167 5 місяців тому

      ​@@Dany126PLwhat the literal fck is u saying!! This game is better Han it's predecessor GTSPORT! I guarantee u that uve never played the game. If those UA-camrs that lie to u about micro transactions are lying to u bro. I have played all gran turismo u could think of even the psp version and I can tell u that gt7 is not the worst gt franchise. All in all, I'm criticizing but not hating ur opinion in hating gt7 but all I ask you is to play the game. STOP YOUR IGNORANCE

    • @Dany126PL
      @Dany126PL 5 місяців тому +2

      @@TheEtherea Just run GT3/4 on emulator if you want Gran Turismo on pc.

    • @KikuraKun
      @KikuraKun 5 місяців тому +1

      No. No Forza Horizon style game on GT. It's garbage. It's trash. It's rubbish. Anything that is festival-focused.
      PD should give us Tourist Trophy back. If not, we have Omega Boost that's seen everywhere within (that trophy, FTO Touring Car).

  • @MbViper
    @MbViper 5 місяців тому +8

    The unknown dude knows his stuff actually, he isn't defending Forza but he knows where the roots of the problem are , its the paying people that are making Forza devs do more of it , if no-one was to buy their shit things wouldn't have escalated to this point, don't blame the devs only but blame the people too who're literally just throwing money at em at this point , it sucks in general but ye if you're upset about something don't do it and let the devs burn in their own none bought crap .

    • @Goosiest
      @Goosiest  5 місяців тому +1

      fair point

  • @Tobajz_Game8989
    @Tobajz_Game8989 5 місяців тому +6

    True I don't like how all the big companies just want money and doesn't create better or new the small studios like beamng are growing because they do what the community likes they don't do it for the money

  • @Gigglers46an
    @Gigglers46an 5 місяців тому +9

    Its sad that some cars are terrible and they make you pay 5 dollars and even more

  • @kisumiri
    @kisumiri 4 місяці тому +2

    The only way that regular paid content and microtransactions work is in free to play games, not a $60 AAA game

  • @DatWut
    @DatWut 5 місяців тому +41

    All those comments stating that the DLCs should have been in the Premium edition are just wrong.
    The contents of the premium edition were announced from the start (car pass, VIP bundle, both expansions). Any further DLC released (such as the car pack) were not announced to be in the premium bundle.
    This is the same as working out a contract with a customer. You tell them what work you will be performing and tell them your asking price. Both sides agree to the contract, you fulfill your work and get paid.
    Suddenly, the customer asks for more work to be done, would you do it for free if said additional work has never been paid for nor was never worked out in a contract before?

    • @Ferrari255GTO
      @Ferrari255GTO 5 місяців тому +5

      Premium edition maybe, but for the ultimate edition it's shamefull, they made us think we'd get any and all aditional content with it just to then make us pay more for a bunch of extra cars, wich is ridiculous and unfair, also it's not the customer asking for more work, they're doing the work after promising us something and then making us pay for it

    • @DatWut
      @DatWut 5 місяців тому +11

      @@Ferrari255GTO There is no "Ultimate Edition" for Forza Horizon 5. Only Standard, Deluxe and Premium.
      And while you are correct that we, as the players, are not asking for these DLCs, I see nothing wrong with them making those packs and selling them. You are not forced to buy the DLCs, you are not greatly missing out by not owning the DLCs.
      If anything I feel like the DLCs are more than far to cost money, especially when considering how many free updates the game has gotten, including some pretty big QoL changes (photomode update, Eventab 2.0, Eventlab Island).
      Also, as a sidenote: Forza Horizon 4 had an Ultimate Edition, and nobody complained that the Hot Wheels Legends Car Pack was not included in that pack back then.

    • @Ferrari255GTO
      @Ferrari255GTO 5 місяців тому +1

      @@DatWut i don't know why i remembered the ultimate edition being a thing then, i just checked and you are very much correct. Still, the thing is that they make you think that you will have ALL of the aditional content with no extra charge, and then proceed to charge you for extra content

    • @DatWut
      @DatWut 5 місяців тому +3

      @@Ferrari255GTO Hm, no, I never thought that.
      Especially since, yet again, the included contents were mentioned right way.
      If despite this you believe you will get everything, you didn't read up properly most likely.
      Plus, maybe they never had the idea to release these car packs, but for whatever reason they changed their plan(s) for FH5, so... eh.

    • @Ferrari255GTO
      @Ferrari255GTO 5 місяців тому

      @@DatWut more than likely they did not, and since the dev team changed for Motorsport (wich i'm not sure but i think it'll also affect horizon) i think they had to stretch the in-between time for the games and as a consequence are tryng to keep FH5 alive longer, wich is the main and only reason i'm buyng any of the packs, afterall i still want the franchise to grow as i believe it's got the best SimCade physics out there ever since Motorsport 3 and i'd hate to see it die. In fact many people complain that the physics engine is the old one but i see no need for a new one, if anything re-balancing the PI rating should be a bigger concern.

  • @Simon-sl3jw
    @Simon-sl3jw 5 місяців тому +5

    the only car game I've been impressed with lately is The Crew Motorfest, I wish there were more frequent game updates that add new features but it's a generally fun game and nice new cars are always added for free.

    • @VarVarJeg
      @VarVarJeg 5 місяців тому +1

      its dlc sold for full price, the map of tcm is way smaller than in tc2 and tc1, yep.

    • @Simon-sl3jw
      @Simon-sl3jw 5 місяців тому

      @@VarVarJeg yeah I do wish the map was bigger too. I really hope another game releases like FH4 where the location has real seasons and a nice big map to drive in again.

    • @bugboy9915
      @bugboy9915 4 місяці тому

      @@VarVarJeg the map may feel small but if you cruise theres alot of detail better than the empty copy paste map of the crew 2 i have both tcm and tc2 on my system i love them both for different reasons and its as close we wll get to a decent open world racer on playstation

  • @paradizegaming6311
    @paradizegaming6311 5 місяців тому +3

    I think forza and Carx should take note especially for Carx because of Carx street Pc

  • @Exah_co
    @Exah_co 4 місяці тому +1

    it's called "DLC" for a reason they arent gonna put it in the Carpass because its different thing. DLC's are meant to be new stuff added to the game that the users can buy. Carpass is meant to be something close to a "Battlepass" where you can unlock cars on days the release some

    • @CitRone
      @CitRone 4 місяці тому

      One of the Achievments is to take a Picture of all cars - while they are adding new cars all the time you have to buy them to at least complete the whole game itself

  • @berkkarsi
    @berkkarsi 5 місяців тому +4

    I've never liked and will never like racing games that have cars as DLCs. Remember when racing games didn't have DLCs? Good times.

    • @Pavk-9918
      @Pavk-9918 5 місяців тому +1

      If the developers get a contract with a manufcturer that they didnt have for the base game, i wouldnt mind if the said "Hey guys we just got X brand onboard our game with 5,6,7 new cars for 5 dollars/euros". I mean yeah why not

    • @k9woodz
      @k9woodz 4 місяці тому

      Yeah, games like GT2, PGR, and FM1 which had 200 cars. Now we have 800 and free cars to earn every week, for years. I don’t feel like it’s expensive to day 1 FH5 players who’ve paid a few $$ now n again but to new players who want every car, maybe it’s a bit overpriced to buy it all at once

  • @Raul-eh3kp
    @Raul-eh3kp 5 місяців тому +2

    Omg i remember playing horizon 1 on my 360 when it felt special those times just wanna make me cry

  • @JubbLaRacing
    @JubbLaRacing 5 місяців тому +12

    I dont see why this is a problem.
    They are just releasing optional dlcs.
    Id rather buy a dlc than grinding the Festival playlist.

    • @JubbLaRacing
      @JubbLaRacing 5 місяців тому +10

      Forza games before Forza Horizon 4 didnt have the Festival Playlist, instead they got monthly dlcs, and most people didnt complain.

    • @OfficialDJSoru
      @OfficialDJSoru 4 місяці тому +2

      Truth be told, I'd prefer the playlist cars show up in the autoshow rather than exclusively in this stupid FOMO method that burns latecomers. Legit didn't buy FH3 on it's way out cause I knew I could no longer get many of the Porsches there

    • @haaxxx9
      @haaxxx9 4 місяці тому +3

      Buying virtual cars with real money is better than playing the game and unlocking the cars that are already in the game. Nice failed logic. No wonder modern racing games have become a painful boring chore that we already spent $60+ on appeals to the mindless casual crowd.

  • @BananaStudios-zq5uh
    @BananaStudios-zq5uh 5 місяців тому +1

    The sentence "They are milking us" is going to get into a out of context compilation

  • @worldvanmaya
    @worldvanmaya 4 місяці тому +3

    They can sell all dlc they want but the game still priced and boring asf tbh

  • @simon7288
    @simon7288 4 місяці тому +1

    They don't understand their customers, i'm a seasoned player, where do they want me to use these DLC cars ? i've completed all the races ! i purchased all the DLC cars up to the Chinese car pack, there is no way in the world i'm buying any more especially every 4 weeks, how about updating the game with new tracks, map extension etc.

  • @Hopper-sh4jn
    @Hopper-sh4jn 5 місяців тому +8

    The negative reviews are kinda of ridiculous because the car pass says it only covers the first year of the game 😐

  • @kireta21
    @kireta21 5 місяців тому +1

    The only valid reason to complain about new paid content would be if it was at cost of new free content, which it's not the case. Playlist rewards are still coming strong, and we still have more cars than any previous Forza.
    Good point about saying that what is in Car Pass, and what is not, isn't obvious to new to Forza players, though. I wouldn't pull the trigger on purchase without checking what's in package, but that's apparently too much caution for many, since some people don't even read through main page, before breaking out credit card.
    Btw, monthly DLCs was how cars were added in FH1-3, there was no festival playlist, almost all new cars were paid content. The only difference was PG would start launching them from day 1, not 2 years after release.

  • @umberella1033
    @umberella1033 5 місяців тому +15

    stopping kids from saying first

  • @javierwey
    @javierwey 5 місяців тому +1

    thanks for talking abt this. Forza is my most played car simulator and ive been disappointed in where its been going...

  • @kyakuloreto
    @kyakuloreto 5 місяців тому +4

    make a BeamNG video racing against Muye, pleas

  • @Trickymilk
    @Trickymilk 5 місяців тому +2

    Daaamn goose is starting to roast greedy companies, what a W

  • @indexs123
    @indexs123 5 місяців тому +6

    i hope forza dont die soon... the money is getting everyone crazy D:

    • @jeffreylove6415
      @jeffreylove6415 5 місяців тому

      Im waiting on the new test drive unlimited solar crown to come out to teach forza that you dont need dlc to have a good game

  • @justsilent313
    @justsilent313 4 місяці тому +1

    The last time I got blown away by a video game was when I first played GT7 like I mean nearly everything is perfect. The graphics, the physics and the cars.

  • @AbisaiNkoshi
    @AbisaiNkoshi 5 місяців тому +5

    Goosiest you don’t have the energy anymore

    • @Goosiest
      @Goosiest  5 місяців тому +2

      gotta start drinking more coffee then

    • @Maverick56912
      @Maverick56912 5 місяців тому

      i agree

    • @Chazzemm
      @Chazzemm 5 місяців тому +1

      Chill on the coffee if you do lol :)

    • @YakamaKrishnaJayanthVarma
      @YakamaKrishnaJayanthVarma 5 місяців тому +1

      @@Goosiest nah mate, drink red bull , red bull gives u max verstappens

    • @FatswellSmart
      @FatswellSmart 5 місяців тому

      @@YakamaKrishnaJayanthVarma can confirm this comment

  • @user-sk8we2tg2t
    @user-sk8we2tg2t 4 місяці тому

    When you bought the game, you got the whole game with all of the features and hundreds of cars, the only difference between old games and new games is that now the new games are allowing you to get MORE content after the release for those who want it. If you want a ton of new cars in Forza Horizon 6, you have to understand that the licensing costs a ton, which means the cars need to be introduced in FH5 for an additional cost in order to fund the next game. It isn’t corporate greed, it’s literally just making it possible to produce another game. The only people who are greedy are the people who demand tons of new cars that were never promised to be added to the game for free and expect that to make sense financially for a game studio.

  • @TFOB86
    @TFOB86 2 місяці тому

    if you do the math, if a 10 euro dlc comes out every month, it totals to 120 euro, which is double the price of the base game

  • @lungamhlonga8713
    @lungamhlonga8713 5 місяців тому +2

    Where is the stay sideways , Peace!!

  • @how2pick4name
    @how2pick4name 5 місяців тому +1

    6:23 "People can see right through the bs".
    The fact that there even still IS DLC that you can buy makes that statement so frigging funny.
    You're getting what you asked for kids.

    • @Goosiest
      @Goosiest  5 місяців тому +1

      true I guess yeah

    • @how2pick4name
      @how2pick4name 5 місяців тому

      @@Goosiest This is why I like you.

  • @elitef40
    @elitef40 5 місяців тому +1

    No wonder FH5 never had a premium edition.

  • @adamkamel9046
    @adamkamel9046 4 місяці тому

    I bought the premium edition when it was the most expensive edition, it's so unfair to have to pay to unlock cars

  • @realx1870
    @realx1870 5 місяців тому +1

    Make a video like this on the crew motorfest !

  • @JojoIsBlind
    @JojoIsBlind 5 місяців тому +2

    Gotta love his honesty, he doesn't care about anything but how he and the playerbase feel about the game, common goose W

  • @IamMortui
    @IamMortui 4 місяці тому

    The reason I stopped playing. Back when the game came out I bought the premium edition for $100. Years later they come out with tons of DLC packs (basically microtransactions) soon after they've already collected everyone's money. Never buying another game from them again.

  • @TheN3ckol
    @TheN3ckol 5 місяців тому +2

    Better new cars for money than nothing. Ppl forget that somebody has to create that car and put it into the game...
    I mean... FH5 is the biggest arcade race game ever happened to us and its 99$ on premiere in premium edition. C'mone guys. This is not a game for a week or two like other nfs/td/grid games.

    • @AkiRalcolf
      @AkiRalcolf 4 місяці тому

      Still. Stale gameplay, and overrated ASF. And that's a fact

    • @TheN3ckol
      @TheN3ckol 4 місяці тому

      @@AkiRalcolf cant agree with that - its not a fact - its your opinion.
      Still the best open world racing game.

    • @AkiRalcolf
      @AkiRalcolf 4 місяці тому

      @@TheN3ckol It is from damn experience. So stop circle jerking this game already.

  • @rngguardian2801
    @rngguardian2801 5 місяців тому

    I’m happy paying for basically only a new map every couple of years and more modern cars but when the game came out I specifically payed extra for the premium edition thinking I’d get all the cars, I’ve got no problem doing challenges for cars that helps make the game fun but I don’t want to have to pay for car dlc’s when I only want to use one or maybe two of the cars in them and when I’ve already payed extra for a “premium” version of the game.

  • @justaguy5791
    @justaguy5791 5 місяців тому +1

    bought the ultimate edition before launch of the game and enjoyed every single dlc the forza devs have released after bought every monthly dlc aswell basically the full game and i dont see the issue with it all i can see is the people who complain about new dlc cars not being included into the car pass which was a great car pas for 34 WEEKS!!!!!!!! are all poor and cant spend 5 euros on 4 new car models never seen in most other games

    • @justaguy5791
      @justaguy5791 5 місяців тому +1

      plus the forza player numbers are wrong cuz you can only see steam players when the game launched most people bought it on MS store cuz it wasnt on steam from the start so i think you comparing forza to assetto is wrong

  • @Twiggo_The_Foxxo
    @Twiggo_The_Foxxo 4 місяці тому

    Man you're gonna absolutely hate how pre fh2 added cars

  • @Eagle-vd7yq
    @Eagle-vd7yq 5 місяців тому +1

    I didn't mind the car packs at first , I said: they needed to fund the team
    until it got excessive if they at least included some of them in the premium I wouldn't mind at all
    PS: I have the premium and I'm getting mad at the moment every time I see a new car pack

  • @vovapsix
    @vovapsix 5 місяців тому +2

    Wait until pirated, get all cars free...

  • @etelelesperance5394
    @etelelesperance5394 5 місяців тому +2

    I feel like most of forza horizon 5's playerbase has atarted its drop since last year and i think its because the fans how repetative forza really is

  • @xxzmk
    @xxzmk 4 місяці тому

    I somehow think its not the devs that decide to do such things but rather the management and the publishers putting expectations.

  • @MertUtku.
    @MertUtku. 5 місяців тому +1

    Cool video ❤️ Hey Goosiest its me Çocukadam idk if you remember me from your other videos that one i was behind at a billboard i just wanted to say thank you. You inspired me to get a steering wheel its coming soon and i will play with it watching your vids.I hope you get to better places.

    • @Goosiest
      @Goosiest  5 місяців тому

      Cheers, mate!

  • @GreenRanger090
    @GreenRanger090 5 місяців тому

    and on top of that, ultimate edition doesnt release until after the 1st year of release so the premium is the beat you can get for pre-order so you need to buy ultimate later so you can get the dlc later

  • @baconheadhair6938
    @baconheadhair6938 5 місяців тому

    8:44 When i saw CARX3 i was blown away

  • @Mr_nobodyknows
    @Mr_nobodyknows 5 місяців тому +1

    I wish that i had an steering wheel,gearbox,peddles for Ps4 from 2 years but even i don't have an steering wheel 😢

  • @CrystalDove777
    @CrystalDove777 3 місяці тому

    i dont really feel offended by the pricing of the car dlcs however it would be nice if the car pass included all car dlc's or add a buy in to all of the car dlcs like a one stop shop since there really isnt one and im sure that could get confusing but i think thats the point

  • @superninja252
    @superninja252 5 місяців тому +1

    I do agree with they exagerating with the DLCs each month, but i respectfuly disagree with the rest
    They had done good free DLCs and bringing new free stuffs each month, specially if you use eventslalb that is a hell of a great feature
    If i was T10/PPG, i would had just did like halo infinite and made a season 2 carpass, at price of original for more 6 months, would had cashed in the same amount of money they need to continue the updates while not annoying the players that are likely annoyed with how Forza Motorsport was as wel

  • @RocketRat8YT
    @RocketRat8YT 5 місяців тому

    That's exactly why my strategy for Forza Horizon 5 has been standard edition but to buy the expansions as soon as they come out, but no extra cars, mainly because they are absolutely crummy and are only drivable online (online solo/multi both)

  • @TshloP
    @TshloP 5 місяців тому +1

    Hey @Goosiest, quick question: Why haven't you gotten a whel stand yet?

  • @dragonbooster9305
    @dragonbooster9305 5 місяців тому +1

    i actually was excited for forza 5 but after getting it i actually regretted buying it i didnt play forza for like more than a year now coz of this

  • @TheGamer99PlayzYT
    @TheGamer99PlayzYT 5 місяців тому +1

    Am I the only one who actually wrote down "cooperate greed" 💀

  • @gymb2440
    @gymb2440 5 місяців тому +1

    goosiest is just top tier at this point

  • @moon_facee1
    @moon_facee1 5 місяців тому +1

    Goosiest what is your monitor size and resolution bro😭👣🔥♥️

  • @フェムボーイかわいい
    @フェムボーイかわいい 5 місяців тому +1

    Remember when the ultimate edition gave you access to all dlcs? Good times…

    • @badmaw7073
      @badmaw7073 5 місяців тому

      There is no ultimate edition for this game

  • @SharunKumar
    @SharunKumar 4 місяці тому

    They tested the waters in fh4 by releasing a paid hot wheels dlc pack which was not included in fh4 ultimate edition. That should have been our red flag

  • @TheTigerGamer08
    @TheTigerGamer08 4 місяці тому +1

    I hope crew motofest does not do this

  • @supremacy98
    @supremacy98 4 місяці тому

    It's not the first time they did it. The ultimate edition never guarantees all DLCs. I think in FH4, there's a few dlc packs not included, and it's even worse in FH3. I remember being so pissed that paying over a hundred dollars for the ultimate edition does not get you the 2 expansion packs and many more DLCs!! Yeah so honestly I'm not complaining as much as last time since it's much worse last time, I think this time it's just exaggerated because these DLCs are coming out years after FH5 release

  • @lordgammadonkaargon2830
    @lordgammadonkaargon2830 4 місяці тому

    the best part is that steam told me about a "free" dlc in fh5. i dubble checked all the dlcs. not one fas free...

  • @MilesFox92
    @MilesFox92 4 місяці тому

    People on Reddit be like "brooo it's always been like that in all forza games, therefore its okay!!". I thought that I'm losing my mind by being an only person, who doesn't support this DLC BS, but thankfully I finally found another person with actual brains in the head.

  • @sergeantstormball9008
    @sergeantstormball9008 5 місяців тому

    and companies wonder why piracy is such a massive issue when theyre doing this stuff

  • @NikosM112
    @NikosM112 5 місяців тому

    This is the reason i only play f2p racing games. Such as rocket racing. It's arcade/futuristic, but an infinite amount of content such as new cars and maps released for multiplayer every month.

  • @_ammar_sami_
    @_ammar_sami_ 5 місяців тому

    This man chose to speak the truth about game development companies!
    Hats off to you

  • @alran2464
    @alran2464 5 місяців тому

    Meanwhile, BeamNG every quarter : 'Here's a new car for all you weird petrolheads... Now go crash it!'

  • @njjx8800
    @njjx8800 5 місяців тому

    Don’t forget the latest patch just killed sound mods. All imported engine sound mods basically died. The lack of support for mods is killing this game for me

  • @Bordan-The-Jordan
    @Bordan-The-Jordan 4 місяці тому +1

    yeah it can be annoying, in fact outrages that it's not in the premium addition, but the good news is, is that it is not pay to win, the game still has not hit mobile EA badness yet and it's still a forza horizon game that is very fun.. i really do think that it was just cause turn 10 wanted to join the trend of "car packs" from all the other car games besides gran tourismo lol, the thing that mostly scares me though is the future of forza because jesus christ, forza customs should speak for itself what the dev's might have in store for the future

  • @ImDeita
    @ImDeita 5 місяців тому

    4 was popping until the end of it’s lifetime, 5 been dry as it’s desert since it dropped

  • @placeholdername-o1v
    @placeholdername-o1v 5 місяців тому +1

    When you buy the full complete all dlcs game for 60 bucks then forza comes out with 75 more dlcs and they not free for you:

    • @placeholdername-o1v
      @placeholdername-o1v 5 місяців тому

      100 bucks i mean

    • @badmaw7073
      @badmaw7073 5 місяців тому

      Its called business you dont like the product dont buy it

    • @placeholdername-o1v
      @placeholdername-o1v 5 місяців тому

      @@badmaw7073 at least make your point understandable bro

  • @prod.d3kt
    @prod.d3kt 5 місяців тому

    meanwhile i installed the game (from a friend account) and i can't finish the prologue without 50 crashes. If u search the internet its full of errors and crashes.

  • @Do_You_Like_Ham
    @Do_You_Like_Ham 5 місяців тому +1

    they should make all dlcs free because the base game is already expensive

  • @shadi2047
    @shadi2047 5 місяців тому

    I got attacked on reddit by the childish cultists because I spoke against the total cost of DLCs against the whole game + its cars + 2 DLCs. Their reason is many gamers jumped on game pass wagon, but all of them failed to provide any source of any reliable statics of what they've said 😅

  • @boiiison1523
    @boiiison1523 4 місяці тому +1

    Bro Iam so happy forza horizon 4 is still supported cause more people own it and play it rather than horizon 5 plus imo its just a better game lol it had a better map plus much better dlc

  • @bliss_woof
    @bliss_woof 5 місяців тому +1

    I swear the more and more time I see new forza dlcs the more I regret buying the 100 bucks edition..

    • @gth882
      @gth882 4 місяці тому

      Should of looked before you leaped

  • @abedekok322
    @abedekok322 4 місяці тому

    Most comments against the negative car pack reviews point to the fact FH3 had car packs. However, I wager the reason such backlash has occurred is due to the fact little has changed with the gameplay loop since launch and gives little insensitive to purchase these packs apart from F.O.M.O.

  • @Sakurubii
    @Sakurubii 4 місяці тому

    This is just the reason why I stop having any kind of favours with the game, the greedy practices the route forza has gone is just abhorrent... People already have the expensive edition of the game, why spend more? It's just sad.
    I'm glad that you is speaking about this because it's a shame people are just defending them with their greedy practices...

  • @thequietkiddo587
    @thequietkiddo587 5 місяців тому

    Currently (At least in Poland) FH5 Standard costs as much as FH4 Ultimate, which is insane, considering its the same game with fancy changes that could all just be an update or DLC, and this is sure not improving things. Oh yeah, this is ON SALE too, not even full price

  • @danielmunson6131
    @danielmunson6131 4 місяці тому

    Remember back in the day when car games had challenges to unlock certain cars in the game. This pay to play stuff is insanely overpriced.

  • @meehdrescher
    @meehdrescher 5 місяців тому +1

    I preordered the Premium Edition on my birthday back in 2021, and since the game has not improved a single bit since its release without any worthwhile content being released that isn't paid, I will not buy from this company ever again and I am not going to preorder a new game if the gaming industry is in THIS state.

  • @Saffroncarp1106
    @Saffroncarp1106 4 місяці тому

    They're doing what they did with Minecraft, do nothing with the base game, except where half decade, then throw microtransactions everywhere.

  • @bosyogurtlight
    @bosyogurtlight 4 місяці тому

    I completely agree with you about the sounds. Forza Horizon 3 HUMILIATES 5 in the sound department. FH3 is so crisp and powerful, driving over water is an eargasm with headphones, while FH5 sounds so dull and low quality for some reason, like if the mics they used there were a decade older than what they used for FH3

  • @ZoneStudios.
    @ZoneStudios. 5 місяців тому

    Fun Fact: There is a lot of players in FH4, and tbh, is just amazing.

  • @andrei_opr7246
    @andrei_opr7246 5 місяців тому

    I pre ordered fh5, with one thing in mind: I'm buying the most expensive one so I don't have to pay any additional penny on a virtual car or map dlc...a mistake I'm deeply regretting even to this day.

  • @ryuukiv7
    @ryuukiv7 4 місяці тому

    Last time i'm blown away with racing games is when Gran Turismo 7 released, it's a great game, and better in many aspects from previous game

  • @YISTECH
    @YISTECH 4 місяці тому

    I will never buy the premium version again on day 1 ever again. I will buy the prenium edition, but when its on sale.