That’s why if you’re committed and passionate and draw or practice every single day (or at least try to) just in a short year improvements can be quite substantial.
Hey guys, please go to Marshall's website and email him a thank you note. Tell him what you learned. I'm honored to have him on the show and I learn something new every time I speak to him. He's brilliant.
i am in a figure drawing class and we actually posed in the same pose as our model for just 30 seconds and it really does help a lot to realize the tension of the body in the certain angles.
+Zoroku Zoroark first. we start by just how we think it should be then we go in depth with landmarks on the body and muscle structure that layout the body to get the atomically correct sketch
@@nightslasher9384 it’s a figure drawing class, the main focus is on posing, anatomy and volume probably do play a role in deciding how the pose looks but they probably do that all at once and focus on the pose instead of doing one first and the other second
I was practicing my gesture drawings whilst watching this video and it looks like I've been focusing too much on contour as opposed to fluidity so that's something I need to work on. This was such a great and funny video, I learned a lot ("we're all on varying degrees of suckiness" - wonderfully put lmao). You two are great!
I had that problem to. What I realized is gesture is all about feeling. Not so much copying the exact pose but feeling the movements in it and applying that to paper. Contour and form comes after.
12:10 Proko: good job... just do more. Marshall: ye good yob, just do an few thousand more... enjoy them... Don Le is probably still crying today 7 years later from this video...
Proko, these tutorials have been fantastic. Having this critique session is also invaluable as the talented folks who submitted their drawings have clarified for me the gesture drawing technique. I still have a ways to go. Keep it up!
When you discuss slow and fast drawing [ 18:47 ] I remembered something I learned studying the violine: To learn new techniques, you would listen to the music and trying to understand whats happening. You would imagine the feel of it. Then you would look at how it's done by your teacher or some great artist. Then you would break it down to its elements and start really really slowly practicing it. Or sometimes it's the other way around, you start with adagio and start improving towards largo. Might be the same, when you slowly try to draw circles or strait lines? Anyways, as soon as you got the first step correctly for at least 7 times in a row without interruption or struggle, you would speed up a little and do exactly the same: Practice until you calmly master it until you can repeat it fluently for at least 7 times without any mistakes. I always enjoyed that moment, when you say: One more, for certainty. Its the moment, practice starts to make fun. You take a little break (lay down your instrument, take a deep breath, strech, move around a little...). Then you take it into your hands again. You speed up again, same process. If you get stressed by the next tempo, you would go back to the previous setting until you have mastered this tempo without any anxiety. Take a little break and try the next level. As soon as you have found the tempo you want to achieve (thats the advantage of the pencil artist above the violinist, we've got instructions by the composer for the tempo, we need to achieve), you put all the elements together. If musicians read this: I start with the last bit and put the next bit before. Thats the best way to learn a piece until you can play the whole composition from start to finish. Maybe there are some parallels to drawing as well when I will longer think about it. This might sound devastatingly boring and slow. When I grew acustomed to this practice I realized, that this is way faster than overstrain you with too fast and furious and never reaching this honey spot, when you have mastered the techniques and enjoy the artistry. We musicians call it the difference between learning, playing and creating music ;-) Enjoy and good success everyone!
Woah! Coming from their podcast seeing Stan so young and smooth still felt like a whiplash. Meanwhile Marshall doesn't seem to age, he might be a vampire.
Woooo! Marshall! I was very blessed to have him as an instructor at Cal State Fullerton. Amazing and inspiring guy. He's got such a love of art and teaching. Great to see both of you (Stan and Marshall) teamed up on this!
Th comment Vandruff gave at 15:50 about ghosting in the lines was a really good point. I’ve been trying to figure out how to solve this when I draw. Problem solved, now I still got to get a handle on CSI lines 😬
really good video. Over the past few years I've gotten so wrapped up into portraits, but after watching a few of your videos, i think I'm going to get back into gesture drawing
I had learned to draw with those "itchy scratchy" lines, and now it's insanely difficult to stop. I recently got a drawing tablet and it's a lot more obvious because it's a lot harder for me to go over lines with cleaner strokes, and it makes my drawings look super messy
@@clydedejesus8087 It's totally possible. I used to have chicken scratch lines for years. I was convinced I couldn't draw a good, straight, and fast line because I had shaky hands. Then, when trying to prove it to my friend, it turned out that yes, I could. Really, the vast majority of people can, it's genuinely just about trying out. Have the courage to try it out a couple times. It's a matter of breaking a habit. It took a while, it wasnt a night and day difference, but once I proved to myself I could do it once, I started applying it as much as I could.
Stan, your videos are so inspiring. I'm a cartoonist who has been working with vector for a while but returning to traditional drawing and your teachings are motivating and educational . I particularly enjoyed this video discussions. I'll be checking out your site soon. Keep up these fabulous videos and thank you so much for sharing.
Wow! What you guys are saying is so on the money! When I was younger and drawing, I'd go into like a trance and made sounds that I imagined you'd hear if you were inside the scenario I was drawing. Swords clanging as they clashed, whistling as the wind was blowing hair or clothing, groaning and stiffening, stretching or twisting the muscle groups I was trying to portray as the barbarian stood there with his sword in a ready to fight position etc. And honestly that helped so much, as it gave movement and flow to my drawings. Funny enough I had no idea that what I was doing was actually aiding my work. Thank you guys, and BTW Marshall is just awesome!
It is my third day now practicing gesture drawing and I constantly worry about if I'm drawing contour right now, or not (doing 2 minute sketches) and the "5 lines prescription" did really help me to have a more meaningful approach to this exercise.
I enjoyed watching this video. I felt that this video was just as much of a critique on the students as it was you Stan. When you would critique something, I liked how you waited from Marshall to agree with or go in more depth on what you said.
Marshall sounds a little like Casey Kasem. Stan, I LOVE this video. The discussion between you two is so helpful. The back and forth of trying to figure out what is right and wrong with the drawings and how to improve is so fresh. I think it's the difference between listening to a professor lecture at a student and listening to two professionals think and develop ideas between them. Anyway. Thank you and I'd really love to see more of these discussion videos.
Hi I could not draw proper till I watched your video thanks so much, It has made me a happy person A big hug from a pore person when I have money I will by your vid even though Im drawing now you helped me so much
I finally got around to checking this out. Really good stuff right here. Marshall's coffee drawings were oddly beautiful. I can't wait to see the next video.
I never tought i would see two giants together like this. LOL! I have the gnomon tutorial of Marshall. He's great! Unfortunately life led me to another path aside from art, yet i try it for a hobby. For me this video was amazing, you guys see so many things where i can't. Congratulations and keep up the excelent work!
Man I really can apply those advices to my gestures. For example I always do to much of an anatomy details in it instead of observing the gesture and action lines. I hink 30 second gestures will be a must to do. Thank you guys for helping us out! :)
For anyone wondering who this Kimon Nicolaides is: He's got a drawing manual organized into a series of exercises and a rigorous schedule, "The natural way to draw". He used gesture drawing in his class. He also introduced the contour-line drawing, inspired by the isometric maps. I don't think he invented it, but probably made popular blind drawing too. Could be the most influential book on the teaching of drawing as a whole.
Hey Stan, you should try out an exercise one of my old drawing teachers had us do. Basically he had us mimic the same pose as the model was doing, and then we had to draw not only the gesture of the figure but also where we felt any sort of pain or tension in red. It can really help students visualize and think about where the stress is on the body with no second guessing.
All good. Just a note: on Don Le's drawing of Shannon ( a few minutes in) it's not an S curve that is indicated in the legs, but rather a B rhythm, or schematic a' la Hogarth. The B leg is decided when the ankle breaks the contour. S leg is indicated when the ankle remains within the contour.
The images that came up and said 'he did it' look like cave paintings. It is strangely beautiful. Did he accidentally suggest a way to create some 'raw' art... (as in something without refinement)
Thank you for your answer, but i think i explained it wrong. Now i don't mean gesture drawing, i can make gesture on few lines. But when i actually do anatomy drawing and i put the body down, i make numerous lines, usually outlining lines I did before. Like making them more accurate. For example i do "egg" as head, then i go through it, make there basic 3 dimmenssional shapes, make a skull like head with nose, then i put there eyes... and so on, but overcovering makes all look messy and scratchy
I think doing it in 5 lines is fine. Some poses can't be done, but by going through that you'll get a sense for how much you can get out of 5 lines and what really is impossible.
Marshall looks like count Dooku. Makes me feel like he's about to cut the paper with a red light saber and say deeply "your art is no match for mine" XD And such talks make me realize it must take years and years to only learn to draw human, and then there are animals, architecture, plants, vehicles etc. So I still don't understand how do 14 years old shrimps draw everything perfect like professionals. Must start at the age of 3 from what Proko teaches and go on til very 14-18-22, and as I understand right, Glen Keane did professional Rescuers animation at 23. Sold his soul to the devil? I just don't see how some people skip all these gestures and even anatomy lessons and just DO stuff...
AS YOU DRAW AND DRAW AND DRAW, YOU LL AKNOWLEDGE (sorry caps on) that drawing is made by principles and certain rules, and when that happen, things tend to get easier and easir with time, so if you spend 10 year learning to draw human, you certainly leraned valuable thing that will make you learn to draw animal in a year, plants in 6 month and so on, the grow is not a direct line, is exponential. as an example, pros, tend to pick on different styles faster than an amateur, because they already have strong fundamental, so a pro manga artist can more easily make a really cool photorealist drawing, than maybe an amateur whos been learning from the begginer in photorealism, is all about knowing the true rules of reality ( anatomy, how stuff works, perpective, basic shapes to complex one, observation, values color...)
Paulo Sousa But how does that account for what RedGallardo said about youngsters (among other people) who have never seen a single tutorial on gesture and anatomy (or in certain cases, skipping it all together) managing to draw pictures with great efficiency?
They certainly are more observers of reality. And lot of experimentation happened. So they may not have seen a tutorial or someone teaching. But ended up picking it on their own.
You know, I should try that. I've more or less seen enough Proko vids to at least have the confidence to do so. That, and attempt a little something called "on demand learning".
Derek Bouthiller yeahh sometimes one of the big mistakes we make, is watch tutorials all day, and never truely experimenting, i am a newbie myself to drawing, but i tend to see that, when i have a period where i draw, draw draw, altough i may begin sloppy, over time i manage to get things i want done, i remenber i struggled a lot about painting metal, and seen thousand of tuts, on it, when i began painting, the metal looked horrible, despite all the knowledge i had, but then as i continued, trying and trying, i suddenly came out, and i didnt even know how, the knowledge i had was aplyed, and it came out great, so it shows, the more you do it, the better you become, even if you error a thousand times, you learn from it,
Really useful to see these critiques, what an amazing resource your channel is. I have a question though about the use of a time limit for this gesture practice; is it more to prevent over thinking, or to prevent over drawing? What I mean is could you spend a minute or so just analyzing the pose and then take 30 seconds to draw it? How about unlimited time and just limit the number of strokes allowed? Would this be useful or is it important to force yourself to think and analyze quickly as well?
27:31 I think the distortion problem can also be a result of drawing with your paper at the wrong angle. I find sometimes your brain tries to correct the perspective so that it looks right at the degree you are viewing the drawing at.
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Its so funny watching a video that precedes the podcast by 6 years and how different the dynamic between Stan and Marshall is now.
Exactly what I was thinking! I was like, gosh they're stiff and awkward I comparison to today... especially Marshall.
That's the first thing I noticed😅
Even now it's still fun watching these videos
"Good job. Just a FEW THOUSAND more."
"Enjoy them". Said the drawing wizard level 9000
yup, thats what practice is all about :)
If you do only 10 a day, then a year of practice is 3560
That’s why if you’re committed and passionate and draw or practice every single day (or at least try to) just in a short year improvements can be quite substantial.
Enjoy them lol like evil hahaha
Hey guys, please go to Marshall's website and email him a thank you note. Tell him what you learned. I'm honored to have him on the show and I learn something new every time I speak to him. He's brilliant.
Yeah
Done
i am in a figure drawing class and we actually posed in the same pose as our model for just 30 seconds and it really does help a lot to realize the tension of the body in the certain angles.
Do you guys do Human Anatomy first or second?
+Zoroku Zoroark first. we start by just how we think it should be then we go in depth with landmarks on the body and muscle structure that layout the body to get the atomically correct sketch
+sneakc92 Wait... what?
@@nightslasher9384 they dissect the model I think.
@@nightslasher9384 it’s a figure drawing class, the main focus is on posing, anatomy and volume probably do play a role in deciding how the pose looks but they probably do that all at once and focus on the pose instead of doing one first and the other second
I was practicing my gesture drawings whilst watching this video and it looks like I've been focusing too much on contour as opposed to fluidity so that's something I need to work on. This was such a great and funny video, I learned a lot ("we're all on varying degrees of suckiness" - wonderfully put lmao). You two are great!
I had that problem to. What I realized is gesture is all about feeling. Not so much copying the exact pose but feeling the movements in it and applying that to paper. Contour and form comes after.
You guys are great together, very cool chemistry and very funny. Also I loved the analogies.
3:24 The outtakes were sooo hilarious, too.
During this figure drawing series, I will accept critiques for each lesson. Some lesson critiques will be combined into one video.
Thank you so much . Your teaching is so clear and crisp . Loadsofblivd n blessings
It´s so great to see the beggining of their patnership. Look how shy they are with each other!
12:10 Proko: good job... just do more.
Marshall: ye good yob, just do an few thousand more... enjoy them...
Don Le is probably still crying today 7 years later from this video...
Proko, these tutorials have been fantastic. Having this critique session is also invaluable as the talented folks who submitted their drawings have clarified for me the gesture drawing technique. I still have a ways to go. Keep it up!
You guys are the very best. The combination of invaluable information, charismatic teachers and funny dialog gives my heart joy.
I love this guys voice.
+Aj Art sounds like an AI voice google would make
Thank you to those who shared your drawings. I saw so many of the things that I do as mistakes and felt I learned from the great words of advice
This is the first I've ever heard of Marshall Vandruff, but I love his use of analogies to illustrate his points
I love the comments about "stuttering" and using too many lines (and "ghosting" it in); really helpful stuff, thanks.
When you discuss slow and fast drawing [ 18:47 ] I remembered something I learned studying the violine:
To learn new techniques, you would listen to the music and trying to understand whats happening. You would imagine the feel of it. Then you would look at how it's done by your teacher or some great artist. Then you would break it down to its elements and start really really slowly practicing it. Or sometimes it's the other way around, you start with adagio and start improving towards largo. Might be the same, when you slowly try to draw circles or strait lines?
Anyways, as soon as you got the first step correctly for at least 7 times in a row without interruption or struggle, you would speed up a little and do exactly the same: Practice until you calmly master it until you can repeat it fluently for at least 7 times without any mistakes. I always enjoyed that moment, when you say: One more, for certainty. Its the moment, practice starts to make fun.
You take a little break (lay down your instrument, take a deep breath, strech, move around a little...). Then you take it into your hands again. You speed up again, same process. If you get stressed by the next tempo, you would go back to the previous setting until you have mastered this tempo without any anxiety. Take a little break and try the next level.
As soon as you have found the tempo you want to achieve (thats the advantage of the pencil artist above the violinist, we've got instructions by the composer for the tempo, we need to achieve), you put all the elements together. If musicians read this: I start with the last bit and put the next bit before. Thats the best way to learn a piece until you can play the whole composition from start to finish. Maybe there are some parallels to drawing as well when I will longer think about it.
This might sound devastatingly boring and slow. When I grew acustomed to this practice I realized, that this is way faster than overstrain you with too fast and furious and never reaching this honey spot, when you have mastered the techniques and enjoy the artistry. We musicians call it the difference between learning, playing and creating music ;-)
Enjoy and good success everyone!
This is amazing! Thanks for writing it all! I’m going to try this in my next practice session!
@@ayeshamo_ 💙
brilliant. Who's the teacher?
Woah! Coming from their podcast seeing Stan so young and smooth still felt like a whiplash. Meanwhile Marshall doesn't seem to age, he might be a vampire.
these two should have a podcast together
Lol they have been on a pod cast together multiple times it’s on UA-cam somewhere I think
@@taraishot100 that's the joke bruh
Woooo! Marshall! I was very blessed to have him as an instructor at Cal State Fullerton. Amazing and inspiring guy. He's got such a love of art and teaching. Great to see both of you (Stan and Marshall) teamed up on this!
Marshall Vandruff is so calm and articulate. He can properly site other artist and is so laid back that he dose not have any shoes on.
Mr. Marshall is just bliss to have as a mentor ✨️
Thank you both so much. The quality of your program is phenomenal. I am looking forward to watching all of them.
Th comment Vandruff gave at 15:50 about ghosting in the lines was a really good point. I’ve been trying to figure out how to solve this when I draw. Problem solved, now I still got to get a handle on CSI lines 😬
Marshall Mathers is such a fantastic instructor. Thank you, Stan, that was an amazing critigue session.
really good video. Over the past few years I've gotten so wrapped up into portraits, but after watching a few of your videos, i think I'm going to get back into gesture drawing
I had learned to draw with those "itchy scratchy" lines, and now it's insanely difficult to stop. I recently got a drawing tablet and it's a lot more obvious because it's a lot harder for me to go over lines with cleaner strokes, and it makes my drawings look super messy
Yeah, that's one of the main issues I had to overcome to get into digital art and animation. I'm still working on it but it's coming along well.
did you fix your chicken scratch yet?
Same fam
It has been 5 years, I'm curious if you have fixed it so I know if I stand a chance LOL
@@clydedejesus8087
It's totally possible. I used to have chicken scratch lines for years. I was convinced I couldn't draw a good, straight, and fast line because I had shaky hands. Then, when trying to prove it to my friend, it turned out that yes, I could. Really, the vast majority of people can, it's genuinely just about trying out. Have the courage to try it out a couple times.
It's a matter of breaking a habit. It took a while, it wasnt a night and day difference,
but once I proved to myself I could do it once, I started applying it as much as I could.
I'm only ten minutes in but I've already learned three things I haven't in 30 years of doodling and expanded on something I did know. This is great.
I studied under Marshall at Cal State Fullerton. His words of wisdom changed my life as an artist. Great video!!
Stan, your videos are so inspiring. I'm a cartoonist who has been working with vector for a while but returning to traditional drawing and your teachings are motivating and educational . I particularly enjoyed this video discussions. I'll be checking out your site soon. Keep up these fabulous videos and thank you so much for sharing.
I'm a HUGE Marshal Vandruf fan! He's an amazing dude!!
Marshal is a BOSS!! I just saw him a couple days ago at a presentation with Vance Kovacs and Justin Sweet and he is awesome.
This is a gold mine of advice
Wow! What you guys are saying is so on the money! When I was younger and drawing, I'd go into like a trance and made sounds that I imagined you'd hear if you were inside the scenario I was drawing. Swords clanging as they clashed, whistling as the wind was blowing hair or clothing, groaning and stiffening, stretching or twisting the muscle groups I was trying to portray as the barbarian stood there with his sword in a ready to fight position etc. And honestly that helped so much, as it gave movement and flow to my drawings. Funny enough I had no idea that what I was doing was actually aiding my work. Thank you guys, and BTW Marshall is just awesome!
inspirations, answers and critiques...that's all i need to keep moving forward...
thanks Stan and Marshall...
Proko when you bring in other artists it really helps with motivation, please keep it up!
It is my third day now practicing gesture drawing and I constantly worry about if I'm drawing contour right now, or not (doing 2 minute sketches) and the "5 lines prescription" did really help me to have a more meaningful approach to this exercise.
28:00 OMG!! i will draw more~~Thx! OMG!OMG!OMG!OMG!OMG!
I enjoyed watching this video. I felt that this video was just as much of a critique on the students as it was you Stan. When you would critique something, I liked how you waited from Marshall to agree with or go in more depth on what you said.
Those bloopers were gem. 😂😂
Thanks Stan and Marshall for the analogies. They are really helpful.
I really love what you're doing with these critiques, there is as much to learn from these as the tutorials. Great stuff.
Marshall sounds a little like Casey Kasem.
Stan, I LOVE this video. The discussion between you two is so helpful. The back and forth of trying to figure out what is right and wrong with the drawings and how to improve is so fresh. I think it's the difference between listening to a professor lecture at a student and listening to two professionals think and develop ideas between them.
Anyway. Thank you and I'd really love to see more of these discussion videos.
I'm glad I found this channel...It's nice to see Marshall Vandruff on UA-cam :)
Great to have Marshall in these to weigh in, together you give some phenomenal critiques
I almost skipped this one in the playlist, but I'm glad I made myself watch it. I would have missed some important insights if I hadn't.
Hi I could not draw proper till I watched your video thanks so much, It has made me a happy person A big hug from a pore person when I have money I will by your vid even though Im drawing now you helped me so much
I love Marshall, I hope he comes back to do more vids. He makes learning so much fun. :D.
even if Ron's gesture drawings arent to your liking you gotta respect his gains.
10:30 That tone gave me flashbacks of my school teachers being disappointed in me.
I finally got around to checking this out. Really good stuff right here. Marshall's coffee drawings were oddly beautiful. I can't wait to see the next video.
Marshall always has the best quotes
It's true!
Marshall is such an old man. kinda refreshing tho. i dont have any old man mentors in art. What a legend
Thank you so much! I realized I definitely tend to sketch multiple lines
I never tought i would see two giants together like this. LOL! I have the gnomon tutorial of Marshall. He's great! Unfortunately life led me to another path aside from art, yet i try it for a hobby. For me this video was amazing, you guys see so many things where i can't. Congratulations and keep up the excelent work!
Hi Stan! So much fun to watch your videos. Loved this one. Please do more of this critic type with diferent topics, it is very helpful. Thanks!
Awesome, especially the end
Thanks for putting up all these great videos. Love all your tutorials, wish I can afford them all soon!
Man I really can apply those advices to my gestures. For example I always do to much of an anatomy details in it instead of observing the gesture and action lines. I hink 30 second gestures will be a must to do. Thank you guys for helping us out! :)
So much knowledge here (and a lot of learning to do), thank you
For anyone wondering who this Kimon Nicolaides is:
He's got a drawing manual organized into a series of exercises and a rigorous schedule, "The natural way to draw".
He used gesture drawing in his class. He also introduced the contour-line drawing, inspired by the isometric maps.
I don't think he invented it, but probably made popular blind drawing too.
Could be the most influential book on the teaching of drawing as a whole.
Hey Stan, you should try out an exercise one of my old drawing teachers had us do. Basically he had us mimic the same pose as the model was doing, and then we had to draw not only the gesture of the figure but also where we felt any sort of pain or tension in red. It can really help students visualize and think about where the stress is on the body with no second guessing.
So where's the broom drawing video Stan? ;)
Im still waiting
@@FinalStand7 We all are.
He did it
@@derp4317 where
so much to learn from watching these. thanks!
Proko thanks alot i have learned a lot and i realy liked your shyness caused being near a real master.
nice video, I've learned a lot, and..
33:54 omg I'm dying, this is the best laugh ever
André Alessi hahahahahahahahahhagagagagaga
Heeewheeeeheeeeheeeehe
just purchased the veronica and marsha packs, great tools, thank you
Marshall is so articulate. Great video!
Well, you said he'd be sharing his wisdom, and we got exactly that. Wisdom.
And a few good laughs too.
This feedback is worth gold!
I didn't realize how much that new(ish) humongous monitor makes a difference until going back to these old crits and seeing them compared to now.
Our life drawing teacher does actually make us get up and recreate the model's pose. We normally feel a bit silly but I do think it serves a purpose.
I would fall asleep to Marshall's voice any time.
Thank you for your videos! I have found them today. Great stuff! I am grateful!!!
It's Marshall Vandruff....awesome!
Gracias a ustedes mis maestros.
This is gold! Super inspirational
All good. Just a note: on Don Le's drawing of Shannon ( a few minutes in) it's not an S curve that is indicated in the legs, but rather a B rhythm, or schematic a' la Hogarth. The B leg is decided when the ankle breaks the contour. S leg is indicated when the ankle remains within the contour.
The images that came up and said 'he did it' look like cave paintings. It is strangely beautiful.
Did he accidentally suggest a way to create some 'raw' art... (as in something without refinement)
Thank you for your answer, but i think i explained it wrong. Now i don't mean gesture drawing, i can make gesture on few lines. But when i actually do anatomy drawing and i put the body down, i make numerous lines, usually outlining lines I did before. Like making them more accurate. For example i do "egg" as head, then i go through it, make there basic 3 dimmenssional shapes, make a skull like head with nose, then i put there eyes... and so on, but overcovering makes all look messy and scratchy
Really great video! I enjoyed watching it very much, now off to get some gesture drawings done.
I think doing it in 5 lines is fine. Some poses can't be done, but by going through that you'll get a sense for how much you can get out of 5 lines and what really is impossible.
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C...S...I thing going! **puts glasses on** YEaahhhhhhhh!
I love your videos. They are always well done and very helpful! Thank you
Yup, definitely subscribing after this one.
Marshall looks like count Dooku. Makes me feel like he's about to cut the paper with a red light saber and say deeply "your art is no match for mine" XD
And such talks make me realize it must take years and years to only learn to draw human, and then there are animals, architecture, plants, vehicles etc. So I still don't understand how do 14 years old shrimps draw everything perfect like professionals. Must start at the age of 3 from what Proko teaches and go on til very 14-18-22, and as I understand right, Glen Keane did professional Rescuers animation at 23. Sold his soul to the devil? I just don't see how some people skip all these gestures and even anatomy lessons and just DO stuff...
AS YOU DRAW AND DRAW AND DRAW, YOU LL AKNOWLEDGE (sorry caps on) that drawing is made by principles and certain rules, and when that happen, things tend to get easier and easir with time, so if you spend 10 year learning to draw human, you certainly leraned valuable thing that will make you learn to draw animal in a year, plants in 6 month and so on, the grow is not a direct line, is exponential.
as an example, pros, tend to pick on different styles faster than an amateur, because they already have strong fundamental, so a pro manga artist can more easily make a really cool photorealist drawing, than maybe an amateur whos been learning from the begginer in photorealism, is all about knowing the true rules of reality ( anatomy, how stuff works, perpective, basic shapes to complex one, observation, values color...)
Paulo Sousa But how does that account for what RedGallardo said about youngsters (among other people) who have never seen a single tutorial on gesture and anatomy (or in certain cases, skipping it all together) managing to draw pictures with great efficiency?
They certainly are more observers of reality. And lot of experimentation happened. So they may not have seen a tutorial or someone teaching. But ended up picking it on their own.
You know, I should try that. I've more or less seen enough Proko vids to at least have the confidence to do so. That, and attempt a little something called "on demand learning".
Derek Bouthiller yeahh sometimes one of the big mistakes we make, is watch tutorials all day, and never truely experimenting, i am a newbie myself to drawing, but i tend to see that, when i have a period where i draw, draw draw, altough i may begin sloppy, over time i manage to get things i want done, i remenber i struggled a lot about painting metal, and seen thousand of tuts, on it, when i began painting, the metal looked horrible, despite all the knowledge i had, but then as i continued, trying and trying, i suddenly came out, and i didnt even know how, the knowledge i had was aplyed, and it came out great, so it shows, the more you do it, the better you become, even if you error a thousand times, you learn from it,
Love Marshall's laugh in the bloopers. x)
Also, a really awesome video. As always.
informative, entertaining, & wildly helpful...THANKS!!!!!
Had to go back and watch the intro again to see what you ended up with, and it really is hilarious to see how you both try to contain it :P
20:02 Holy crap, this moment. Proko nailed it!
Damn Marshall, your voice is so soothing.
Every time you mess up a drawing, just remember that big-shoulder Ron is watching you
how far you two have come
Definitely really great insight on getting up and acting it out!!
Really useful to see these critiques, what an amazing resource your channel is. I have a question though about the use of a time limit for this gesture practice; is it more to prevent over thinking, or to prevent over drawing? What I mean is could you spend a minute or so just analyzing the pose and then take 30 seconds to draw it? How about unlimited time and just limit the number of strokes allowed? Would this be useful or is it important to force yourself to think and analyze quickly as well?
27:31 I think the distortion problem can also be a result of drawing with your paper at the wrong angle. I find sometimes your brain tries to correct the perspective so that it looks right at the degree you are viewing the drawing at.
Marshall looks like such a nice guy!
Like watching a kid show his dad his macaroni art lol. Both very talented.
Love both of you !
i love you both! so wish i could have a chat with you! you seem like a real giggle!
Jim Lee scribbles a lot while in pencil yet he's an absolute master.