Secrets of the carnyx
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- Опубліковано 21 бер 2016
- Musician John Kenny reveals the secrets of the Deskford carnyx, an Iron Age war trumpet that dates from 80-200AD.
The Deskford carnyx and the replica played in this film were part of the Celts exhibition at the National Museum of Scotland in 2016. Find out more at www.nms.ac.uk/celts
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Roman infantry: sir we need a wall
Roman officer: why?
*horns in distance*
Roman officer: start building
no, order your cities to churn out legion units
@@StopFear they built Hadrian’s Wall because of the Picts and Celts of Northern Britannia
@@chuckfinley6747 Gauls are different from Picts and vastly removed by distance. You sure they both used the same instrument? Likewise, blue paint was something Britons were known for, not all other Celts.
@@scintillam_dei What do you mean? In Roman times, Scotland was mainly inhabited by Britons in the south of Scotland and Picts in the north of Scotland. The Gaels had yet to arrive en masse from Ireland.
Also, the Picts are the ones known for their tattoos and blue paint.
@@frederickpeebles8142 Then I got the wrong dePICTion of them.
The tongue that can be seen is actually the players tongue.
Gene Simmons eat your heart out.
😂 🤣😂 🤣
Well that's cursed.
Only in his wife's dreams...
💀
I had no idea the celts made their own dark jazz...
it was called Death Jazz back then. i think you know why.
it s supposed to be a war horn..
@@Ad___Astra r/ woosh
@@Tanzenergise Yeah, but I've only heard Death thrash jazz before though....
Mostly by Celtayer or Celtica, some MegaKelt and Celtrachs too.
@@jewsrbad Then diversity came for them and they . . . failed.
"We need something to strike fear into our enemies and let them know we are not to be taken lightly. Bring forth the googly eyed pig horn! OF COURSE WITH THE WIGGLY TONGUE!"
To be fair, imagine hearing that eerie shit in the forest, back in the day when everyone _knew_ there was demons and ghosts and shit juuust out of sight... And then 5,000 screaming, naked fucks in blue paint started running at you, waving spears and swords and very intent on killing you about as dead as it's possible to be.
This sounds like something from Invader Zim
With large comical waggy ears, as well, of course.
back in the iron age, pigs were far more ferocious. they were still boars. in many cultures, war gods were personified by boars. i'd imagine that they probably had a different reaction bc of that haha
late to the reply here but boars used to be a 10 person hunt prior to guns. boars will fuck up most other species, and they eat everything. Everything....
"Music is the one area of human experience which transcends culture and language. It's like being able to put your hand backwards through the curtain of time and touching somebody that you can't see.. But you can feel." What an utterly lovely man.
I wouldn't want someone from the future to touch me without consent.
Shut up bitch
@Ornithocheirus Yes of course. The last thing the guy said was super creepy causing me to recoil and assume he is a pervert. I'm not usually a troll like that. Otherwise marvelous instrument /sounds.
@@noahcarver6072 Poor phrasing is not always a sign of a foul mind. It is, however, frequently a sign of a sincere and passionate one. This is a man who loves his field so much that it is incorruptible by such things.
@@RPGTKingpin archive.org/details/EUROPATheLastBattle
"For there were among them such innumerable horns and trumpets, which were being blown at the same time from all parts of their army, and their cries were so loud and piercing, that the noise seemed to come not from human voices and trumpets, but from the whole countryside at once.” Greek historian Polybius, 150 BC
Thank you 🙏🏼
I could listen to that for hours. It's so haunting and boggy, I want a whole album of this.
I know this comment of two years old but he actually plays it for the album "a quiet ritual" by snow ghosts
@@gimmickymoos they might not see your response but i did and i really needed it, thank you
It sounds like an oboe + a trumpet to me. Like something out of the Abzu soundtrack
“Dragon Voices: The Giant Celtic Horns of Ancient Europe” by John Kenny
I have never seen anything so simultaneously silly and SO intimidating. It's adorable on some level but I'm also utterly terrified. What is this; is there a name for this emotion???
stupeur
Bugs bunny laughs from hell
Bemused, maybe?
Flabbergasted. Befuddled. Perplexed.
The ancient horns were said, before battle, to turn an enemy's heart to stone. This of course combined with the blue warpaint is intended; you don't have to worry about someone trying to kill you if they are too scared to.
Although he states that it was more for ritual than it was a war horn, but for the Celts war was very much ingrained in their culture that they might view battle as a ritual, or their rituals were very much glorifying battle.
definitely. Battle was looked at as a ritual, as life and death were viewed completely differently from how they are now. Death was not necessarily a sorrowful event. the spilling of blood was looked at as a part of the natural cycle.
I'd like to add that celts believed in reincarnation so death wasnt nessecarily that bad of a thing in their mind since youre coming back
I think what he's saying is that this instrument probably wasn't played in a the middle of a fight. I don't know anything about the ancient Celts, but I think it would make sense to play the horns before and/or after a battle.
@@HiddenDragon555 I agree, I imagine this being played at night prior to battle, and within earshot of the opponent...terrifying and stark...
@@quadeevans6484 just like in fps games such as the csgo eh?
I was so taken aback when the video showed that man talking. He has such a calming, engaging voice I thought he was just a voice-over narrator.
He talks in a hushed voice so you feel reverence towards his pet trumpet
@@Evilwolf21 "his pet trumpet", alright dude. Easy on the irreverence.
@@Vingul To be honest though, John Kenny does so much work with the Carnyx, you might actually call it his pet trumpet. That's not even particularly irreverant.
But imagine hundreds of them attacking a Roman legion in the mist.
*nervous sweating* "Oh Neptune..."
@@Idle_Hands Woven into the rich fabric of the island's tapestry and all that
Idle Hands do note, that the Celtic Empire existed, and for centuries before Rome, when Rome came along, the Celts were already scattered and feuding
There wouldn't have hundreds of these during a battle and the horn wouldn't have attacked anything
There was never a Celtics empire don't lie. They were never a united people. They were a bunch of different tribes and people with similar cultures and languages but never the same people.
Imagine blasting the Carnyx so hard you blow out the blood vessels in your eye like this Chap......
Murdoch Murdoch pfp kek
Blasting all those jazz-farts through it.
@@smileitsjustagame2937 That doesn't surprise me.He used to blow some crazy high notes........."Fiesta Mojo" live was incredible!
just when I was about to comment about this..
he's just gettin hiiigh off music mannnn
When historians can't say for certain what something is for, it's a ritual implement.
What were these fidget spinners to post modern Americans?
Must've been ritualistic devices!
That's what they'll say when they find a condom in 10,000 years.
A man of culture as well
No man these "horns" are actually straws to reach up and refill weather balloons when they are running low on swamp gas
@@redclayscholar620 And in a way figet spinners were and are. They are a vast and varied symbol. But mostly dedicated to the god of corperate marketing. They have figured out a way to kickstart "crazes" and sell billions of units of crap just because of media hype. Its genius.
Our dog (Italian breed dating back at least to early renaissance) reacted to this like it was a chorus of grouse, then burst into song herself. Her predecessors have cheerfully yowled along to bagpipes, circular saws, police sirens etc but this one has for seven years kept schtum. Until the revival of this absolutely spectacular beast.
My God this is a beautiful sounding instrument
Kind of terrifying to think of the Celt playing some smooth jazz out of their 12' war horn while his buddies are beating the absolute piss out of some poor Roman farmboy, though.
And they're all naked saave for paint and blood
@@modakkagitplugga That was just part of the scene in those times.
It must be a very surreal feeling for that roman famboy, being beaten the living crap out of, while listening to celtic jazz....
anime
@Spa Ghett For about one minute and then they died in that moment from blood loss.
Well... I know what's going on my Secret Santa wish list.
John's wonderful analogy at the end about "..touching somebody that you can't see, but you can feel.." reminded me of a poem I wrote years ago for a 'Spirits of stone' themed outdoor education project with my primary class. It was read to them in the grounds of a church and asked them to imagine a child looking at a gravemarker that had been carved by their granddad.
With my hand upon stone
I reach in and hold
onto warmth in the heart
of distant, ageless cold.
I imagine that a horn like this, softly playing something meaningful to the culture, would be very comforting to someone dying on a battlefield. What a versatile instrument.
wow second note sounds like cello
I have watched John Kenny's videos on the carnyx so many times. Cannot hear his playing and explanation of the instrument enough, absolutely astonishing that such an instrument exists.
Wow, they get a really beautiful resonance.
"Well Hidey Hi Ho there stranger! Say, I was just wonderin'. What frequency does your tribe resonate at?"
lmaoooooo
It was so interesting and relaxing to hear mr. Kenny inform us about this instrument so articulately.
What a beautiful design as well as the sound
This was incredibly fascinating and I want more of this.
"It's like being able to put your hand backwards through the curtain of time, and touching somebody that to can't see, but you can feel."
Weird vibes. LMAO
That’s like a temporal courtesy reach-around.
The upright one is obviously made for war to sound like a screetchy banshee in between the drums. And the straight one is for playing to a seated crowd.
Obviously.. or possibly.
my whole body got chills and goosebumps
these magical sounds
Music doesn't "transcend" culture, music IS culture. That's why it's so amazing, every culture has their unique music.
the majority of our current music is visual lust-based lower vibrations. I've seen better days.
I don't think he implied that in a multicultural sense. I think he meant it that it's almost a transcendent connection to our past.
@@usmuse That's because bad music is promoted and good music isn't. In case you or anyone isn't aware - we are under attack. Full spectrum attack. The bad music is an attack on our spirit. It hasn't become a physical war yet because the enemy knows they'll lose that. Eyes open. Stay awake.
@@JohnSmith-wo2fz There is no objective truth as to what is and isn't good music. That's because being good or bad is a personal, subjective distinction. Different cultures, ethnic groups, societies and religions have their distinct types of music. Whether you like them or not might be relevant to you personally, but inside honest and respectful musical analysis and research, there's no such thing as "bad" music.
I take it you're not a musician, or at least you're a lousy one, because it's clear that in spite of what you think, you have almost no knowledge of music theory and ethnomusicology.
@@joaogabrielaguiar3761 internet rule n1 never try to argue with a nazi
Wow it sounds so haunting.
Fascinating.
idk why but i feel something deep when i hear that
Is it possible that it had a mouthpiece made of some more easily decayed material? Perhaps bone or wood? I'd imagine it would be fairly unwieldly to play it horizontally unless two carried it, one player and the other holding it over his shoulder.
guy in front "what?......what?"
I'd assume it, though bone would probably not feel nice in your mouth (sticky sensation, due to the pores). Thus, wood and horn are very likely.
I think the picture that shows them upright has them like that so as to save space.
@@WCSPriest I imagined that some were made S-shape to facilitate the high position. If it was used for signaling, then you definitely don't want to blow it into someones ears and blowing it high will give you a bit more reach.
@@edi9892 Ofc, I was talking about the ceremonial way of playing it.
I loved the last sentence , it was very profound and poetic in a way
I bet you a million bux they're ALL meant to be played upright, and are just missing the wooden mouthlieces that incorporated a curved bit and maybe even a reed?
Or the other option where you tilt your head backwards.
@@williamunderhill427 To me, I'm wondering if it was artistic convention to show them upright even if they were played horizontally.
@Peaceful Fren It's just that, given how top heavy they are they look like they'd be very uncomforatble to play upright. Either way, it'd be a terrifying sight/sound.
Does the position its played in change the sounds it makes
@@gregoryborton6598 Definitely uncomfortable, but I can't help but think that an ancient soldier would be strong enough to keep it upright! And also motivated enough.
Imagine a ancient armies marching forward in battle order with a chorus of war trumpets blaring their intimidating sounds, the howl of battle whipping the men into a frenzy. Awe inspiring!
Holy smokes, I never knew these instruments even existed. How cool!
I did not know I wanted one of these before I saw this video,what a warm yet eerie sound.
Fantastic instrument!!
Someone in my neighborhood has something like this and they play it sometimes always at sundown and it's enchantingly creepy
They make a very nice sound actually
Amazing. Just amazing.
Awesome vid, have always been fascinated by these things. Writing a book currently that includes a culture much like the celts this video is very useful source material.
So awesome to see these! And hear them!
I would love one for my car horn..the bastards I have to deal with on my morning commute, I can't tell you..
get a "Dukes of Hazard" horn ! :): ) !
The car in Chitty Chitty Bang Bang had one.
Awesome job on the reconstruction.
This gave me flashbacks that aren't even my own
WOW!! This is a mindblowing discovery!
Well this was incredible! Thanks so much for sharing! :D
amazing!!!
This dude talkin like War and Ritual didn't go hand n hand in the old days
How well put, the parting words, of this video are. It's a feeling which I know well. Thank you
He took the perfect worden...I have goosebumbs...
Modern jazz avant garde! Love it!
I don't know why I am watching this but I like it... keep that stuff up!
I think the sound is cool but freaking terrifying too, imagine hearing that in the dark or in the battlefield.
Romans- "why do I hear boss music"?
Awesome!
👍👌👏 Oh WOW, simply fantastic! Additionally this great guy talks such a beautiful English and what he said about music is so epic and true!
Thanks a lot for making teaching explaining recording editing uploading and sharing.
Best regards luck and health to all involved people.
Well, the sounds this ancient tube makes are particularly creepy.
beautiful
So beautiful
love this. sound from other worlds
I would imagine a few of those guys before battle. In the forest scoping the enemy out. Then the Romans would hear the Carnyx. Low tones intermittent with high screeches. Probably scared the crap out of the enemy. How freaky is that. Just hearing it makes my hairs tingle on the back of my neck. I want one.
My man's eyes started bleeding from how resonant the carnyx is.
what beautiful sound. i can imagine an orchestra of Celtic musicians with these and bagpipes and drums. and yeah the bent mouthpiece is so wrong!
They got bagpipes from the Romans...
New favorite instrument
Amazing
This is amazing
I could this guy speak all day.
Wow ! So Amazazing ❣
"It's like putting your hand back through the curtain of time and touching someone." I felt that.
Amazing how the Deskford carnyx sounds so much like a cello.
This is an absolute marvel
I weirdly find that sound to be soothing......
I am amazed
I can see it being used in battle. As a way to command troop movements and tactics.
Commands shouted can be overheard. Countered. Expected.
But a command of notes and melodies? Each different according to the commander and army? It would be extremely difficult to crack that code.
Very interesting.
love it
0:48 .... I feel good
so majestic so cool😎
Romans when the trees start talking in Carnyx: 👁️👄👁️
they would probably form a superbly coordinated shield wall and end up killing 90% of the enemy soldiers nonetheless lol
@@mme9646 *Laughs in Teutoburg*
@@rancidkippa4589 one thousands defeats against one victory, the victory will always shine.
@@rancidkippa4589 that's german
@@rancidkippa4589 then Germanico Giulio Cesare arrived and none laughed more
Beautiful*Beautiful*Beautiful
"Blow the waggy-tongue pig!"
"Warchief, the Romans are fearful and retreating!"
"Then charge! Play the other one, it's got bells on it!"
It's beautiful
This is amazing! It gives me goosebumps to think hear it. A beautiful, heartfelt link to the past and all humanity.
Was wondering, however, why are they shown upright in the historical records if they are played horizontally?
I'm excited I just ordered mine tonight off of eBay for $300 looks a lot like this one I hope it sounds real good
Lindo demais.
Cool!
This is one badass instrument
2:21 Very well put.
It reminded me Fortunato Ramos playing the erke during the Divididos's song: Mañana en el Abasto
Go to Google Patents and type in Folded Horn Acoustic Guitar. This is USPTO Patent #10,777,172, and has two five foot long (exponential) folded horns inside an acoustic guitar. This provides more low end, and much greater volume, but the natural frequency range on the soundboard remains. The sound is captured by a microphone, amp, and two speakers inside the guitar. Compression chambers tuned to 89 Hz feed the horns. Similar to having two small Klipsch or other speaker horns inside the guitar, battery powered. Enclosed speakers and divided guitar chamber prevents feedback. A pickup can be blended with this also. This new patent is in the prototype build stage. All tonewood, no plastic or carbon fiber.
How would you go about getting one
I’m getting one they’re fascinating
I enjoyed this video, I would like to purchase a carnyx.
Trop bien !
I'm gonna need a full album.
Celtic War Chief: "Signal the attack!" *smooth jazz begins playing in the distance*
I want to hear a choir of these in a Sabaton song
Sabaton would be interesting. But I guess Eluveitie would be insane as well seeing as they're mostly making songs inspired the Helvetii celts.