Trapped in a Culture, Afrika Bambaataa, the Zulu Nation, Pt 15 of 44, Kool DJ Dee, Tyrone Mixologist
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
- Is the history we've been told about Afrika Bambaataa true? Kool DJ Dee was President of the First Chapter, First Division of the Black Spades. He and his brother, Tyrone the Mixologist, answer questions about the urban legends surrounding Bambaataa.
The KRS One video referenced can be found here - • KRS-ONE: Part 2: 40 Ye...
More on the lawsuit against Afrika Bambaataa and the Zulu Nation here: www.metropolis...
Bronx-Lance Taylor took on the name Afrika Bambaataa and started a hip-hop awareness group. But former members say the Universal Zulu Nation was a violent gang that disintegrated into a cult with Bambaataa as the god-head. In 2016, several men came forward with disturbing tales of what they say took place from the 1970s into the 1990s. Although Peace, Unity, Love, and Having Fun was the motto of the Zulu Nation, Bambaataa fashioned the organization’s doctrine after Malachi York’s Nuwabian Nation, the Nation of Islam, the Moorish Science Temple, and the 5% Nation.
“Today, the Zulu Nation counts hip-hop royalty like Nas, Lil Wayne, and Big Boi as affiliates, in addition to younger rappers like Joey Bada$ and Freddie Gibbs. Acclaimed TV series The Get Down-not to mention countless documentaries and a recent showcase at Cornell University-credit Bambaataa with uniting a divided neighborhood, offering a way out of gang life, and helping to launch a movement that would place African American art forms at the center of global popular culture.” wrote Dave Wedge, Vice Magazine.
Since the story broke, hip hop has yet to come to terms with the importance of this subject.
In this series, original interview footage is being shown to the public for the first time, encouraging a broader conversation and deep dive into what may have taken place.
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R.I.P To Tyrone the Mixologist
Wow!
Hip Hop is bigger than Bambaataa and his clan. What I don’t understand is why the real men didn’t check them to protect children.
Hey Yogi! And we have more interviews of people not yet introduced. I am so glad to have you all here watching with me...your reactions show that it was not just me who thought the same.
@Rebellionardo I’m retired now but I grew up in the 70s. I worked in male dominated spaces my entire career in Corporate and Defense Department. I have lived North, South, East, West and Middle America. I have a higher belief in real Black Men. I honesty don’t know any Black Men or Black Women who would sell there souls for money knowing children were being molested by adults and not take the necessary actions to stop them. This includes Black people who grew up in projects.
@@yogisunlight9379 well you don’t know black ppl then
Black hatred is real!
@Rebellionardo I’m referring to an entire community in Bronx who apparently are aware of what Bambaataa is doing and did nothing for decades. This is an open secret.
Much Respect to Kool DJ Dee and his Brother ...
Miss Leila...
You've done it again 🙂
You should be Very Proud of the product you have produced. I know I am absolutely Proud of You 💖
Thank you, Miss Joy...I am so glad it is finding a home with people who are as interested as I .
RIP Tyrone the Mixologist
Those Brothers should write a book about the Foundational Black American history of hip-hop
Agreed!!
Salute to Kool DJ Dee for mentioning the "DISCO KING" Mario!
Alot of these kind of interviews are needed. The OG's of Hip Hop were also doing making themselves marketable and taking liberties regarding the start and evolution of Hip Hop.
Official black spades ♠️❤️ “The Black Spades are the Foundations of HIP HOP ♠️✊🏽
Cutty, go on Michael Wayne TV or your own channel and tell your story, about you, and your life experience.
Old news I’m down with Michael channel
Love this video! The only way the true history of hip hop will come out is by interviewing the people who were actually there and played their part. For a long time I believed the narrative about hip hop starting in 1973 and the trinity of hip hop but the more interviews with the first generation you hear or read you find out the history is more complex and diverse. These interviews not only expose Bambaataa as a crafty predator who created this persona and a cut & paste ideology to trick people but also show that there’s a lot of lie-oneers out there and a lot of unsung heroes whos stories need to be told!
Not sure how I came across this video, but as someone who participated in the New York DJ experience during the early to mid 70s I'm happy to see authentic and credible attempts being made to describe this period and place in our history. It's disheartening, though not unexpected, to see so many players out here caught up in the power dynamics of greed. They ultimately dilute and erase many of the sacrifices our ancestors made enabling their descendants with more than a flip of a coin opportunities to achieve better lives.
Content much appreciated, glad we can still build with elders and get the information. It would be cool if these brothers could have an platform for on going dialogue along with other elder gang/influential guys from the old neighborhoods to speak on this as well . Starting with the Bronx and then to outer boroughs.
KRS One was always rapping about false history, lies in books in libraries etc. Then he started doing the same, falsifying history and spreading lies. It’s funny how people like KRS seemed wise to us hip hop kids when we were young, now that I’m older I see that most of the stuff KRS talks about is total nonsense.
I remember seeing him lecture at UC Berkeley, feeling like something is awry here, and then I started to drift off of what he’d say in songs and in interviews.
@@ray1411 Elaborate on that God. Was his energy off or was he saying contradictions?
That nigga the first bro polight saneter ect spitting that fake knowlege for some coins
I'm watching the whole video now 🥰❤️
Even the ads 😁
Thanks to social media the real stories can get told!
Another Dope Interview Leila..Glad u Took the time to get What was "The Real Deal" in Hip-Hop back when it Started..Keep Em Comming Queen..
And Stay Safe..!!
(anyone else pick up the Tension between the 2 Black Spades)
She should interview DJ Jazzy jay, Red Alert, The Supreme Team radio djs, Coke La Rock, Busy Bee, Melle Mel, Kool Mo Dee and Grandmaster Caz.
These two came before all of the people you just mentioned. would be nice, but they are not needed.
@@fastpaced4861 Yes, you are correct. I like to get their take on the situation.
@@defrocker0569 right, get all the info from that time period to make a complete picture
KRS always lyin! 😂😂😂😂😂
Rap is music, Hip-Hop is a subculture. Rap started in the South, Hip-Hop started in New York. Rap is sometimes called Hip-Hop because it's the music of Hip-Hop.
Both are EXCLUSIVELY Foundational Black American creations. 🇺🇸 ✊🏽 🇺🇸 ✊🏽
Not true Ahk
DJ smokey and the smoke-a-trons is another dj you should interview regarding the history of hip hop. He was out at the same time as Herc, and on the same side if town
My man took me to a small jam Smokey threw right in front of the Fort Apache precient on Labor Day 1981.
The standard history of both Rap and Hip-hop contains at lot of errors and misinformation and needs to be revised.
It is a false narrative floating around in hip hop history that Kool herc brought mc'ing and dj'ing over from Jamaica. This totally negates the fact that America had its own dj/mc culture independent of Jamaica. Can you interview kool d and tyrone about this, also can you get some info on disco king mario.
Agree! I thought this was very strange when Shaggy (Orville Burrell) and this female artist were saying the same Hip Hop is Caribbean agenda on the Breakfast Club and not one the host corrected them: RaaShaun , Angela or Lenard
@@yogisunlight9379 Busta Rhymes and Pete rock been speaking ignorantly about the origins of hip-hop as well. Both of them being of Jamaican background, they are spreading false hoods that it started in Jamaica. Nobody is questioning any of this. I’ve never seen anybody make this claims in the presence of the first generation of hip hop, people born from the mid50s to the early 1960s. Is really just a bunch of NY hip-hop artist from generation x speaking about stuff that they were too young to witness, most of them wasn’t there at all.
@@yogisunlight9379 Michael Wayne TV (UA-cam) has what you need to hear from these two men and more, the beginning of what is now called “hip-hop.”
@@yogisunlight9379 Most on-air radio personalities are where you were in believing the story of the origins of hip-hop.
@@tshakashakur2220 What are talking about? I know damn well Hip Hop is a pure American culture where Jamaicans and others entered the space.
I'm here 😁❤️
A little late cuz my Mama wouldn't get off the line and I wasn't gonna tell her to 🥰💖
31:15 - "especially if it's written, if it's concrete". That's a huge part of the problem with current history, it's written and it's repeated, but it's Herc's story as told by him, or Flash story as told by him. Once you stop relying on their retelling, and digging through the versions told by the likes of Kool Dee, Tyrone, Pete Jones etc. you start to see a more complex and more interesting story emerge.
In translation, as today’s youth would call it: KapRS1. They fact-checked false the f outta dude.
Kap Krissi
I dont blame him for having a false beleife system cause we all did...he came out with a video on yt admitting he was wrong about the teachings...you have to remember people lie..even legends in order to big themselves up
Is that lunell’s brother 🤔🤣…. Great interview💪🏾🌹
I knew he looked familiar. 🤣🤣🤣🤣I was trying to think where I had seen him before.
Manny Fresh daddy
R.I.P. Tyrone the Mixologist
🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
are you sure Tyrone died? i can't find any info.
that brother got the serious eye jammie.... great work sis!
😄😄 word!
Bam probably got da booty goonz to check em
LOVE UR WORKK LEILA !!!
Damnnnn we going to have to get at KRS real quick. Get some clarity
I’d love to see what he’d have to say but I feel he would never confront the allegations
Mind blowing Leila 👏🏾 wow. And Bam gets invites to speak these untruths to Cornell University. Shameful.
Right? Man...smh
The funny thing is... I've never heard Bam really take credit for all of the things that he's been credited with. I've never heard him deny it, but he's usually very resereved and humble (rightfully so if he knows the narrative isn't true) when it comes to him being titled the "Founding Father" of HH.
So basically contribute false information on hip hop history because you’re too humbled to say it’s not true? Come on. This is why people are confused about black history as it is. Wrong information can’t credit the right sources. It’s like finding out (as an adult) the man that raised you is not your father. It’s not funny
KRS 1 Is not even from the Bronx, he heard it on the radio in Brooklyn, then moved to the Bronx to experience it. Now he's an authority on hip-hop????
@Leila Wills awesome video I caught it after the premier, now I'm all caught up. Question? Is it possible for you to do a interview with Patrice Griffin survivor of Xclan cult. I know Bambatta is the topic at hand but I think this sister should be given an opportunity to tell her story. Not by men but by someone like you a person with a heart and compassion.
Thank you so much and Patrice and I have some things coming up...you are psychic.
Not my X-Klan?! I know Suga Shaft died from AIDS so … dang. Dang.
@@maxspears6030 yes Xclan
@@LeilaWills haha @psychic.
I heard her story on Star,'s Snitch channel.
Great content. Continue the great work sis
Thank you soooo much for creating this!... They are trying to re write our history once again... its sooo bad that I wrote a whole dog on dissertation on the comedy centrals channel comment section with that crap hip hop history comedy they are selling to our people as truth!! it's disgusting so thank you truly for bringing some of the true creators of our hip hop culture to tell the truth!... Guys read this damn book i wrote on comedy central page... I went in lol.. I just couldnt take no more... here it is..
"I know everyones gonna take my head off for this.. But guys THIS IS NOT!!!!! THE TRUTH!!!! It's actually disgusting! they are creating a false narrative of how our culture was created... It seems all fun and funny but this will be what stands as truth throughout history!!! and it's NOT THE TRUTH! anyone under 55 yrs old that wasn't there please listen ... they are selling you a lie mixed with a sprinkle of truth!!! as they have always done to our culture... I must say it is a very entertaining comedy.. but it is just that guys entertainment! You want some receipts look up ..Black spades, Kool Dj DEE, Dj Mario, the L brothers, Geenie, DJ AJ, Bronxdale etc..Some of These are djs that herc watched and listened to before he started djing and theres alot more... Herc had the Herculoids and dj Smokey had the Smokeatrons all in the Bronx at the same exact time!..HERC DID NOT!!! COME HERE FROM JAMAICA AND START HIP HOP!!!!.. Park jams and block parties were already going on full steam before herc.. now he did join in and add to the culture ...but HE DID NOT CREATE IT! I'm sorry we are not going to let yall try to steal our culture... since they bought our ancestors over here... the ones that werent here already... they have stolen everything that we have created!!! I watched Hip Hop get created as a child and participated!! and caribbean music and reggae was alive and well in the streets of NY at the same exact time... we all rocked out to reggae .. yellow man and all the rest of them.. google Yellow man yall... and it was 2 totally seperate creations and cultures existing at the same exact time.... and it still does to this day!... EVERYTHING WE CREATED EVERYONE WANTS TO STEAL AND CLAIM IT AS THEIR OWN SINCE THEY BOUGHT US HERE! We created almost everything that exists that everyone uses world wide.. all the way down to your refrigerator! But leave it to yall we didn't create anything RIGHT! Yall should be ashamed of yourselves!!!! I'll be damned if I let yall take our culture that we created out of the struggle and oppression from ALL OF YOUR CULTURES!! None of YALL accepted us!!! Reggae and Caribbean culture was huge!!! and they disrespected Hip Hop along with everyone else when our people were creating it!!! I know I was there!!! now let's be clear! THERE WERE SOME THAT WERE DOWN WITH US!!! But they didn't claim to create Hip Hop they got down with us!!!... at the beginning of Hip Hop we always would find a caribbean brother to Chat on a hook with us... But He had his own music and culture that His people created! and He or she would jump on a song with one of us to take part in Our Music and Culture that WE CREATED! It wasn't this Crap that some are trying to claim now!!!!
MY MELANATED PEOPLE BORN IN AMERICA.. WE CREATED THIS CULTURE!!! and when we created it EVERYONE HATED IT!!! AND SAID IT WASN'T MUSIC AND IT WOULDN'T LAST!!!! BUT WE DIDN'T CARE WE JUST KEPT CREATING AND CREATING AND IT KEPT GROWING AND GROWING... The same cultures who disrespected our music and culture.. now they want to claim that they created it!!!! BOY SHUT UP!!! SHUT UP!!! Shut the Hell UP!!! as Ten Toes Down would say lol... Man yall I then wrote a damn dissertation! YOU KNOW I DON'T LIKETHIS MESS! LOL... To wrap it up yall.. I love caribbean music and culture and we are all melanated people But Please enjoy your culture and creations... AND PLEASE LEAVE OURS ALONE we have enough people trying to take everything from us already! Blessings to YOU ALL!! from Uncle Yahshuah... Now go head and let the shots fly lol"
That was alot right lol... I had to let them have it guys.... this is truly disgusting! they want to take everything from us!! can I have my kidneys at least! Damn!!! lol..
Now as far as Bambaata and that molesting crap!! Yo I am soooo glad that we did not have a predator like that amongst us children in my projects... But to be honest the older dudes in my projects would not have let that stuff fly!!!! EVERYBODY SAYING WE ALL KNEW HE WAS DOING IT! BUT NOBODY STOPPED IT!!! WTF!! and I dont curse guys but really? and look at Hassan Campbell he's a product of that.. the brother inside truly wants to help but He's going insane!!! He's battling sooo many demons because of what these grown men did to him that he's self destructing right in front of our eyes... and don't forget guys he said he was molested even before bambatta before his teens.. as a child... and its really sad... Great Job Leila! I don't really like the title but the story needs to be told.. so Thank You!!! and I have a documentary coming out in a few days that's going to expose alot of this Hip Hop nonsense! Blessings to you all... Uncle Yahshuah... now go head and let the shots fly lol... I know how our people are...
You told you what happened to all these foreigners from the Caribbean to come over and take credit for American black man that's why I try to tell American black people stop getting so close from you foreigners what they do they come here they suck up what we had and then take all take all the credit for themselves
Kool Dj Dee is originally from Brooklyn and he was a dj in Brooklyn. He brought the mobile disc jockey culture to the Bronx from Brooklyn
You seem to know a lot I’ve seen a few of your comments and they’re never short on info. Salute 👍
Kool Dee was a part of the Grandmasters. They changed the name because others would refer to Flowers as " Grandmaster". Kool Dee etc als.. became known as Fantasia.
That look on Tyrone's face at 7:40. Priceless.
Another solid one!
Yes Sir keep it coming Leila🔥🔥
Excellent interview. I agree, that if you weren’t there in 1971-1973 then you can’t speak on it from first hand knowledge. And, if you do speak on it, you need to cite your source because you weren’t there. Just because someone made rap records in the 1990s, it doesn’t mean that they are an authority on what happened to form rapping and scratching and b-boying in the early 70s. I moved out of the Bronx in 69 and a lot of this makes sense because you got beat up in different neighborhoods around NYC if you weren’t from there and stickup kids was a real thing.
These brothers need there flowers for sure!
Gotta be kidding me...flowers? They need fire and brimstone for protecting a straight up predator
@@godbodyheru thank you for saying that...I was wondering wtf what that person listening to
I must've missed something, I'm merely talking about the fact they were over looked in hip-hop.
@@godbodyheru
Who said they protected a predator?
Did you not hear him say he never knew Bam was so calculating?
@@ray1411 look family every single person in his entire crew knew he was a flaming gay blade
Fire interview.
YASS, give up the clarity! I've been sayin Noo its...Lies and the history is wrong. In Queens it was the 7 Crowns my cousin Jamaica was in it. The Black Spades and Savage Nomads. In the early 70's, before Supreme Team and Southside Seventeen. How, I know one of my cousins from the BX Larry brought started the Spades to Flushing Queens. I'm the 1st female MC. Whose tapes went oversee's first. Performed very young in NC downsouth performed at Billywoods place. Smdh!
Ironically, @leilawills a journalist is contacting me tomorrow regarding my story via the CVA. We spoke briefly after the panelists. However, I informed him regarding my Pioneer status in HipHop etc. Thus, just can't reveal everything to him.
Thanks for the clarification.
Leila accolades.....uncover the truth to continue to discover. 👏👏👏💣💣💥
Heyyy Tammara, first off, thank you for the donation. the other night, and what did I miss? You have a case regarding the CVA? That's incredible. My email is in the ABOUT section. And, I'm reading your history. Salute to your history in hip-hop
Job Well Done, TY...
He's right. KRS-One needs to be dismissed from Hip Hop for his comments on Bam.
Great work the true fathers of hip hop. Jimmy Mac
Shared 👍
Gracias!
KRS1 tell fantasies
Naaaaw he be LYING🤥 his ass off!! BUT I ALWAYS KNEW DUDE WAS A GROUPIE LAME! I can remember being a lil girl and think KRS1 was Gay… smdh yup I always thought that! O’an lmbo I thought he look like he stank too 😜😂
29:00 Yes, the founding fathers of Hip Hop were not West Indians. They were African-Americans from North Carolina!
So many lies have been told over the years about this history. I’m glad I heard it from these Legends and not so called teachers and people who were not there Thanks for this true history.
I'm so glad I was able to capture this...thank you
You were the premier documentarian for the BamBooty investigation. Much appreciated Sis.🤲🏾
Just imagine if Black Americans took Latin Music such as Salsa and or Caribbean Music such as Reggae and utilized these musical forms to lay the foundation and build Rap Music and Hip Hop culture upon. Forget about Rhythm & Blues, Jazz, Funk, and Soul Music. Forget about James Brown, Parliament, The Jimmy Castor Bunch, Ohio Players, Chic, Lafayette Afro Rock Band, The Isley Brothers, Earth Wind & Fire, Isaac Hayes and so so much more. Let's forget about and do away with all of the aforementioned music and the artist that created that music and let's focus on Latin and Caribbean Music and Artist. Imagine Black American Rappers rapping primarily over Latin and Caribbean Music. Imagine Black American producers and DJ's sampling primarily Latin and Caribbean Music. Imagine Black American Dancers Break Dancing to primarily Latin and Caribbean Music. Just imagine this. But let's take it a step further, just imagine if Black Americans migrated to and took up residence in Puerto Rico, Jamaica and or some other Caribbean nation and then try to claim that creation or a significant part of said creation as their own. To add further insult to injury, no elements, trace, nor precursor, or any future development of this music, art form, and culture exist from whence they came. Music is a primary foundation cornerstone of all cultures internationally. Would any Latin and or Caribbean person accept or tolerate this immense gross lack of respect and outright appropriation and false origin creation claims of their music and culture? I think it is quite obvious what the answer would be, but this is the outright twisted disingenuous mentality and way of thinking that immigrants to the shores of America such as Puerto Ricans and other Caribbeans want Black Americans to co-sign. GTFOH!!!
facts!
Please consider this history when you say that Bambaata's introduction of knowledge was new to the Bronx River area:
Black Spades had a commander who was a young brother named David. He was either an active young member of Muhammad Mosque No. 7 or a strong sympathizer. He was already bringing the knowledge of self to the area. Additional to that, you had a growing number of 5%'ers in the Bronx, especially due to the Bronx's proximity to Harlem where the Headquarter mosque was on 116th street and Lenox Ave(Malcolm X Blvd). Lastly, the Bronx had Muhammad Mosque No. 7-D.
Harlem was No.7
Queens was No.7-B
Brooklyn was No.7-C
The community regularly saw the brothers spreading knowledge, selling Whiting fish or Muhammad Speaks Newspapers.
I personally have seen Bam Bam in the late 90's approach Minister Farrakhan at a speaking engagement in Harlem as if it was a reunion. As if he knew the Minister from way back. The Minister put his hand on Bam Bam's cheek as they were talking almost like an uncle talking to his nephew. As a whole, the Black Spades had knowledge in their circles. It was the current of the the early 70's. It had more to do with what was going on in the city rather than Bambaata's personality. However, he must be given credit for being a key agent of bringing back and re-making it popular to talk consciousness and unity; especially in street culture(hip hop)I'll never take that from him.
Thanks so much for this comment
I respect this comment as well.
When you said you saw him approach the minister are you referring to Bam Bam, or Bambaataa?
You are right. The original president aka supreme commander of the Black Spades was David Brockington. He was in the NOI. Bronxdale Projects was the 1st division of the Black Spades. Bronxdale Projects/Soundview Projects was the homebase and Soundview is where they had the meetings
@@bxdale83 I'm referring to Bam Bam. He still moves around the boroughs with gear that reps Black Spades. Yes sir dear brother, I know the difference between the two brothers.
The Gramercy Riffs from 'The Warriors' were based on the Black Spades
Dude on the left looks like Luenell.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Dammmmmm u wrong for that
From gang banging to Muzik great knowledge ✨✨✨
So the southern boyz brought hip hop to new York? Gotcha
Say it mixologist u guys are american born n raised n so was ur great great grandparents those drums n beats n dancing is in the blood n soul. True aboriginal so called indian or whatever label u put the original people of the land
Keep exposing this atrocity committed against the children.
25:00 I'm glad the truth is out. Afrika Bambataa, DJ Kool Herc are not the founding fathers of Hip Hop. There were a plethora of African-American DJs that came before them.
Kool Dj Dee looking like he has some Xtra shyt say but not saying
I worked in P.S. 100 on Lafayette av. In 1967 , there was a Jam , before that there was a Jam in P. S. 107.
Thanks for giving this light besides michaelwaynetv....i fruck with the truth no matter what...history has to be re-written in my opinion
How are you Sister Leila? I'm a new content creator who is doing a lot of research on accurate hip hop history. I have uploaded several videos dealing with the subject.
I just found this video. I was hoping you would be ok if I used about 14 minutes of your interview. I am scheduled to upload a video tomorrow. I respectfully hope you won't mind if I do so.
Thank you for your consideration.
Yeah in the biggest propagator of the lies is KRS one. I have heard him on multiple occasions explicitly say that Africa Bambaataa invented hip-hop
Bam Bam and Bambata are 2 different people how them dudes didn’t mention that. He said the first chapter started in 71 , how when you had the meeting in 71 and spades running around in 68
Yea he should of cleared that up...but smart people will get it being that he said bam was a baby spade when he put him down with the spades
He said 1st division/1st chapter. It was a branch of the 1st division. Some divisions had chapters. Bronxdale Projects was 1st div and Watson Ave area was 1st div/1st chapter or chapter 1 which started in 1971. He pretty much explained it in the video
bxdale83 Thanks…I gotta watch it again all my uncles were Spades from Cypress and Patterson 141st they are actually well known Spades
Henry Cruise Bam Bam official he used to run security at a lot of clubs in the 90’s
@@onmioneplanet6070 You should get your uncles to do interviews or tell their stories. They did a documentary on the Black Spades but a lot of ppl were left out. Your uncle's Spade history need to be told
I agree with person who comented by saying why didn't any real men protect the children please tell me why?????
They don’t agree on the founding fathers I get that. The birthplace Is definitely Bronx 🙌🏿
That’s also not totally true. Hip Hop originated from the entire NYC area. And, yes, that includes some parts of Westchester, Long Island and New Jersey.
Hip hop started in New York but rapping been around before hip hop. It started down south.
@Spelling bee Judge And they only do it with hip hop. No other genre of black music
New York started hip-hop. To me hip-hop has four godfathers. Kool Dee, Kool Herc, Grandmaster Flowers and Disco King Mario. They all added something to the birth of this thing.
She should've ask about the "Spades dance." How is that connected to the "Apache line" up rock dance. Uprock was before Bboyin. Talk to "King Uprock" "Nigga twins" and "Charlie Rock" , Charlie Rock was one of the first Bboys- "Zulu Kings"
DJ Ajaaaaay! Kurtis Blow's Dj!!! I learned alot of info n history through "Wayne T.V." UA-cam page about History of Black spades, Dj Mario, Charlie Rock, Green eyed Genie, etc...
I'm surprised she didn't ask about Djs from the outer boroughs, such as, Grandmaster Flowers from Brooklyn.
Flash got the grandmaster part from flowers who was the original grandmaster i heard...flowers also came out with the long blends too if im not mistaken
@@propane718 Yeah Flowers was a master of the mix. He alsi used to use three turntables ...
Never heard of him I’m from Brooklyn thanks for the inft
@@brooklynzone1769 old school
@@brooklynzone1769 Did you live in Brooklyn during the 70's ?
All facts I came up under these brothers and hang with them in the party and the hood bronx Dale is was different back than I was every we're in the bx in the mid 70. 74 75 I was like 14 15 crazy times lit.
Miss Layla i would like to ask a question to you and star being that yall decided to label this documentary the way yall did...ARE YALL PART OF THE LGBTQ COMMUNITY???? I mean no offense..just trying to get clarity...im saying this because just like jamaicans some members of the gay community might try and make claims about them starting hip hop..
lol...I get your logic. No, we are not a part of the LGBTQIA+ community...I have explained the title several times and also did a livestream on it.
@@LeilaWills gotchu gotchu..just checking lol..p.s i see they added more letters
Lmao Dee had that face of it's a lie that he went to Africa
lmao he DOES make faces lol
@@LeilaWills the whole time he was uncomfortable. He was careful on what he said.
Yes, this was a VERY tense time when I interviewed them. There was a lot going on in these streets. Plus, remember, they didn't know me at all but he did get warmer towards the end and I wanted to re-interview him lol but oh well.
@@LeilaWills nevertheless Sister Leila, you did an excellent job. Your editing complimented your line of questioning. Thank you.
P.S. please consider interviewing another DJ that was mentioned earlier in the comment section. It was reported that this person was a DJ on the west side around the same time as DJ KOOL HERC. Keep up the good work, ma'am.
@Leila Wills Bambaataa looking like a whole fraud and KRS1 has spread a lot of false information. This is usually the case with most "Cults of Personality".
What these cats don't know is that the BIGGEST YouTuba came out of Bwonx Riva.
Hassan Campbell
LOL
Heavy D jamaican Biggie jamaican Chubb Rock Jamaican Busta Rhymes Jamaican Nickie Minage Trinidad just a few. West Indians have been in América in large numbers for over 100 years. First large numbers game in NY was Casper Holstein West Indian. Bumpy Johnson worked for Queenie St Clair a west Indian. We need to not divide but unify.
No, you all need to stay in your countries and stop falsifying our cultural contributions.
@@walteralexander689 facts are facts son. West Indians are part of hip hop they did not create it but they are part of it. They are part of US. You sound like a Trumper KKK. You do not want black people coming to América.
You all bring your issues here, I want you all to stay in your countries.
@@walteralexander689 so you are a Trumper. Yo i am Panamanian. Do you know how many Panamanians have served in the US military. Yo you want to basically get rid of all of Flatbush and Crown Heights and 2 neighborhoods in the Bronx. What problems did Kareem Abdul Jabbar's family cause ? His father served in the 761st tank division in WW II the all black tank division, the most decorated armored division at the Battle of the Bulge. Kareem is one of the most righteous Brothers around. His family is from Trinidad. Oh Pop Smoke was born in Brooklyn of Panamanian parents. Kid from Kid and Play is half Jamaican. Kids that grow up in the US are just BLACK. We are a minority why would you like to lesson our number?
@@ottolevine978 You all overcrowd cities, you take jobs from Americans, you bring colorism, c rime and black-on-black gender divide.
Very interesting
Caribbean didn’t have any significant impact on Hip Hops creation.
That's what you think! We in the Caribbean created hip hop
@@rick6672
That’s what you think. Habitual liars, I tell ya.
@@ray1411 narcissists truly don’t listen. They just lie.
Exactly Hip-hop is Black American Culture PERIOD! Hip-hop ain't from no damn Caribbean
@@rick6672 go learn u Jamaican history maybe you're be surprised
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Did kool dj dee have a black eye during this interview?
@@THEHIPHOPFIENDS oh word!
Facial surgery.
? What are the names of the rival gangs of the black ♠️ ‘s
What gang did the black spades have the most beef with ?
He said ghetto brothers lol
Can anyone tell me if Afrika Bambaataa have any siblings?
It seems as though she's got some personal vendetta towards KRS ONE and trying to cause chaos amongst him and the pioneers.
I think she just wants the truth to be told. They created a narrative about the origins of hip hop that is false. Nothing wrong with the truth coming to light
@@nofacade100 I don't think that their intentions was to give out false information. I think some people were getting some information mixed up, without investigating it.
Did you watch the KRS One video in the description? It is what we're discussing. These lies have affected the generations after the pioneers and it is their legacy that has been robbed.
@@LeilaWills I know what KRS ONE has said and he's probably getting that from other people. By the way, interview Sha Roc.
You are using words like "it seems as though," "he's probably," while accusing me of having a personal vendetta. We are checking actual facts and first-hand accounts not innuendos, rumors, and suspicions.
What did they call him, before he named himself Bambaataa?
His name is Lance...but he was calling himself Bambaataa early on...like teenager times.
Wikipedia had the Kevin name until the allegations came out. His name is Lance Taylor, his mom was Mrs Taylor and that name is used in song credits. The Kevin name may be another alias but not his name.
First of all the title of this podcast is BS not everybody in Zulu Nation was not gay. Bams deeds was him. Interview Bam for your answers.
You are entitled to your opinion but the title remains!!
We have covered the title several times and you are not up to speed. Please catch up. You don't think the title was questioned before now?
@Rebellionardo 😂
It’s called guilt by association. Love it or hate it, you have to accept reality. Why do you think some organizations vet people so stringently?
@@fallynblack5747 the title is totally wrong. It's guilty by association.
-If I was in ZN I would want to sue whoever labeled this, "ZN hip hops 1st gay family", that shits wrong. It was only freak AF going for some young kids in the group, NOT the whole group. Most straights don't want to be lumped in with gays. & This title just makes those who don't know think that everybody was with it, Fuck no.
KRS 1 is FOS.
These 2 seem like they hate each other lol especially dude in the right
Kool Dee and Tyrone are brothers. They always look like that when they talk
🤔Now that the World knows he's uh GUMP everybody wona Disdent they Self from hem when they ALL new smh. On Bloods.
KRS One his song "13 and Good" ....i rest my case
AFRICA BUMURBOTTOM
Did yall here the new remix. KRS One , featuring Africa Bambata of "13 and good" ?
That ain’t right. Lol
I can accept that rap music has a homosexual heritage. It explains much about gay Black males dominating the rap music genre today. Bet money-everybody favorite rapper coming out the closet real soon to capitalize on the Lil Nas X factor.
Naw dude. You're wrong.
They say megan thee stallion is a man.
@@creativecontrol8454 waaaaay wrong!
@@godisblack8949
I think she’s a man.
They definitely spew hate towards women as if they’re gay
These guys both look zesty
I was thinking of that but Ian wanna say nun but I think most of the people back in the early days was gay asf lol
@@BIGGLIZZ522 lol