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  • Why Apple updated their charger: 67W versus 70W
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    Apple, it’s apple… is it green or red, sour or sweet, check out the video find out. A2743 in this one 70 watts of power adapter goodness.
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    00:00 Introduction
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    04:12 Data
    06:20 Final Comments
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  • @danielsears1522
    @danielsears1522 26 днів тому +88

    For me, the killer feature for Apple chargers is their compatibility with the international duck heads in the World Traveler Adapter Kit. But in that scenario I want more than one port, especially at these prices. The 35W dual port charger is underpowered and the 70W charger is … under-ported.

    • @oggilein1
      @oggilein1 26 днів тому +9

      i suppose their thinking is, youll charge your phone using the ports on your laptop so as long as the laptop is getting enough juice then one port is enough. cant say i agree but it would explain

    • @alx9r
      @alx9r 26 днів тому +7

      I agree. That Apple international adapter interface is both standards compatible (it’s just a plain old C7 jack) and it adds a ground pin and support of on-adapter international plugs. It’s one of the few Apple parts that’s the opposite of proprietary lock-in.

    • @AllThingsOnePlace
      @AllThingsOnePlace  17 днів тому +1

      I am curious about what the next update will bring.

    • @tgr5588
      @tgr5588 13 днів тому

      @@oggilein1yes that’s what I usually do. I plug in my laptop, and then I plug in my phone and headphones to the laptop

    • @michaelcorcoran8768
      @michaelcorcoran8768 12 днів тому

      ​@@AllThingsOnePlace a 73 watt charger /s

  • @aonezzzz
    @aonezzzz День тому +1

    I have the 96W and it’s massive. Nice to see they are improving the size without losing on performance and security. Thanks for the video!

    • @AllThingsOnePlace
      @AllThingsOnePlace  День тому

      Yeah, they're trying. This still isn't the one but Apple will sell these by the millions so making them last is important.

  • @perihelion4495
    @perihelion4495 26 днів тому +73

    What about the stuff you usually cover like thermals and voltage stability?

    • @AllThingsOnePlace
      @AllThingsOnePlace  24 дні тому +10

      Yeah, just tried to keep the video shorter. It is good I just didn’t grab any footage of the thermals this time around. The voltage is in the data in the video.

  • @StudyWithNika
    @StudyWithNika 26 днів тому +19

    Apple adapters never die my original ipod touch adapter from 2009 still works ❤

    • @oggilein1
      @oggilein1 26 днів тому +2

      my firewire charge brick from 2003 is still kickin, i use it for fast charging on all my ipod classics and it does the job as well as it did 20 years ago. back when 2.5w charging was the best you could hope for with usb, firewire doing 12w was quite the upgrade!

    • @DerekDavis213
      @DerekDavis213 26 днів тому +8

      However, Apple cables die often.
      For example, a 3-foot or 6-foot _USB to Lightning cable._

    • @Homme_De_Kro-mignon
      @Homme_De_Kro-mignon 26 днів тому +1

      Careful, if you're european or have european type plugs, some models of 5W adapters sold these years (2008 or so) can be dangerous and have been recalled

    • @9SMTM6
      @9SMTM6 26 днів тому +3

      Uhh... Power adapters in general never die, unless they're extremely cheaply made.
      I don't have a single device, be it apple or anything else, where the power adapter died on me. If you ignore cable damage that is, where it was already noted that Apple is actually worse.
      Saying that I do wonder why that is. They do actually contain electrolyte capacitors which should eventually fail.

    • @AllThingsOnePlace
      @AllThingsOnePlace  17 днів тому +3

      Power adapters do fail, the electrolytic capacitors are often the culprits, which may cascade to further failures. It all depends on use. It is often why a home router might say it needs 12V and 2A but in reality it needs 0.8A, this makes sure the power supply is generally under a light load and will last longer. Same goes for laptops and USB bricks. The more you stress them the hotter they get and the shorter the lifespan.

  • @ebol08
    @ebol08 26 днів тому +4

    Thanks for the analysis.

  • @letters79587
    @letters79587 26 днів тому +10

    I got the 70W one with my M3 MBA. Glad to know you approve, overall.

  • @nich-nk2cr
    @nich-nk2cr 23 дні тому +21

    The 20.6 volt is definitely a wise idea - Apple knew that the cable will cause voltage loss to some degree, so Apple was intending the actual power at the device end to feed into the device at as close to 20.00 volts as possible.

    • @chadkrause6574
      @chadkrause6574 17 днів тому

      Also if you look at their products, they charge with more amps at 20.6V compared to 20.0

    • @AllThingsOnePlace
      @AllThingsOnePlace  17 днів тому +2

      The power adapter protects at less current than other adapters. It is actually more power efficient for transfer of energy, but 20 v 20.6 is a very small difference. Going up to 28V can make some real gains but they reserve that for the highest end machines.

    • @chadkrause6574
      @chadkrause6574 16 днів тому

      @@AllThingsOnePlace right but I am talking about the MacBook itself will allow 3A at specifically 20.6V vs 1.5A at 20.0V. That’s what the back of a MacBook Air states at least

    • @LoganT547
      @LoganT547 16 днів тому

      ​@@chadkrause6574Yeah they probably do that cause their cables suck. I recently tested one of the 100W 2M cables, it dropped 1.5V (18.5V) at 55W charging my HP laptop. The cable would even start to get very slightly warm as well.

  • @coud1080
    @coud1080 3 дні тому +3

    I recently discovered your channel it really helped me improve my buying decisions thanks to your hard work! and btw there are various Thunderbolt 4 cables which claim 100W or 240W of power delivery in the market can you review them as well? Thank you so much.

    • @AllThingsOnePlace
      @AllThingsOnePlace  3 дні тому

      Yeah, I have lots of cables to test and add to the list.

  • @hakanyucel1639
    @hakanyucel1639 26 днів тому +2

    THX to the Video, you are best in this!

  • @mohanheer8680
    @mohanheer8680 26 днів тому

    Excellent work... Thank you...

  • @arthurmonay3156
    @arthurmonay3156 19 днів тому +1

    I would love to see you review the Aohi Starship 40,000 mah 140 watt power bank. I just bought one. Thanks for all the great reviews !

    • @AllThingsOnePlace
      @AllThingsOnePlace  18 днів тому

      Thanks, yeah that one is on the list. No idea when it'll make it. I have so many others. I might have to do a mega power bank video or something to catch up.

  • @Tfonix
    @Tfonix 20 днів тому +1

    First of all, thanks for your videos and the detailed analysis!
    There is something I want to share with you and I would like to take your attention in the next videos: the long term charging process. My experience with such multiport chargers is really bad: I had tow of them, Baseus 100 W, 4 ports, GaN II, and Oraimo 120 W, 4 Ports.
    The problem that when I keep my devices ( like a smartphone and a laptop ) connected and idle, where the devices are utilizing a really minimal current, the charger stops the current for a millisecond and negotiate with them, I have noticed that when the displays dimm and they give a chime sound.
    In case of Baseus happens in regular intervals, which are longer if tow smartphones are connected instead of a smartphone and a laptop.
    In case of Oraimo happens less frequently but each time consists of fast sequence from disconnecting und reconnecting.
    If that happens when the devices are using a little current, what would happen when the devices really need charging and a lot of watt? I do not think such a behavior is really healthy for the battery or the electrical devices?
    I think this technology is not mature enough, or I got really bad units.
    Best regards

    • @AllThingsOnePlace
      @AllThingsOnePlace  16 днів тому

      Thanks, yeah, it does happen. I demonstrate the behavior in a video using USB to power lights. It happens with all chargers and adapters to some degree. It is stated as a feature in many cases. The GaN2 from Baseus is certainly getting on in age at this point so it is not as fast or as consistent as modern devices. It's also less expensive and that cost is put somewhere. I use the Satechi 165W, and the port order matters, once you get it right it doesn't do any flashing or chiming in my case. Is this the case with your set of devices I'm not sure.
      But it is true and you are correct that there is still some room to go on USB negotiation and device stability between charging and non-charging states and just in general. Of course a few high quality single port chargers eliminates this problem entirely.

  • @paradonym
    @paradonym 10 днів тому

    My laptop needs 20v 3.25A (that's what's listed on its power adapter) can I use a type C adapter cable rated for 20v/3A for it? Any way of knowing it'll charge before buying?

    • @AllThingsOnePlace
      @AllThingsOnePlace  10 днів тому

      Yeah, it's odd that the trip point is 60 watts when most of the devices are 65 watts. I've found that in testing 60 watt cables will often run up to 65 watts but technically are operating in overload territory. An emarked cable would make sure you don't run into any negotiation issues.

    • @paradonym
      @paradonym 9 днів тому

      @@AllThingsOnePlace I'm talking about an adapter cable to those round plugs. They're definitely emarked because they have to ask for a specific wattage. My laptop is one of the weird ones having usb c, even 3.1 spec, but not for charging. I just want to know if an emarker cable asking for 20v 3A would work here when the original power supply is rated for 20v 3.24A

  • @TheColinputer
    @TheColinputer 26 днів тому +1

    I have only had one issue with an Apple power adapter. It was a 30w one from around when the 12" Macbook first came out. For some reason on my 2020 MBA it will make it do the power chime every 5-10sec when the laptop is closed and just charging. Works flawlessly when the laptop is open and in use also works fine on my iPad pro or other non Apple devices. And other 30w ones (including the one that came with the MBA) all work flawlessly while closed. Just seems to be that, that charger and laptop dont like each other in certain conditions.
    Other than that, the only time i have had one fail is due to external abuse, left in the rain, run over by a car to name a few. In fact i still have the adapter that came with my first iPhone (3GS) that works great.
    In all honesty, Apple making the cable and adapter separate has def been a plus. I would always have issues with the Magsafe 1 and 2 cables fraying (and i honestly thing everyone did) and back then you had to replace the whole thing. Now can just get a nice braided USB C C cable for 1/3rd the cost of the Apple cable

    • @AllThingsOnePlace
      @AllThingsOnePlace  17 днів тому

      Thanks for sharing! Yeah, I don't think any of these would survive the rain for long or a road, ha. The newer macbook pros can also charge with 140W via USB C to C so you don't have to get a magsafe cable if you don't want for maximum speed charging and operation.

  • @Frytech
    @Frytech 7 днів тому +1

    Hi, I just discovered your channel and I have a question: Do you measure noise that chargers produce?
    I literally had to return an Anker charger long time ago because it was making that annoying high frequency squeaky or buzzing kinda noise.
    I’ve had the same problem with some Samsung charger, and some low level Voltcraft charger.
    The only charger I’ve never had this issue is the original from Apple, no matter what it is: old 5W iPhone brick, 12W iPad charger, or MacBook bricks - none produces that annoying high frequency buzz, not under load, not at idle.
    Since my devices are usually charging literally like 20-50cm max away from my ear this parameter alone is a HUGE dealbreaker.
    If you haven’t tested for such noise before, maybe you could start doing that in the future? That would be tremendously helpful for people who are really sensitive to that noise.
    Thank you for a very informative video!

    • @AllThingsOnePlace
      @AllThingsOnePlace  3 дні тому

      Yeah, it is something to add for sure. I don't explicitly measure the noise as of now. I do mention it in the video if the noise is obvious or loud, but in the 'lab' area the equipment tends to make more noise than the adapter, fans in everything, also the power supply in the power analyzer squeals like an old TV so tends to mask the power adapter. But yeah, if the channel eventually takes off I will make a sound test room, amongst other things...

  • @jammies701
    @jammies701 23 дні тому

    Nice vid mate

  • @khinmoe-xl2qc
    @khinmoe-xl2qc 21 день тому

    I been watching your video. Really love it. Can you recommend me adapter for 15 pro max ? I can’t decide. What watt and adapter to use. Thank

    • @AllThingsOnePlace
      @AllThingsOnePlace  18 днів тому

      Yeah, really anything 30 watts and down. The phone itself decides how much power to use so even this 70 watt will work but it's overkill for that job. The tiny chargers tend to get hot but there are many options, the Google 30W charger, Anker has the subcompact 30 watt charger, nano iii or something, the ugreen nexode 30w is a good budget option, belkins 30w charger is good.

  • @LoganT547
    @LoganT547 16 днів тому

    Nice video. Do you think at some point you could review some ALOGIC bricks? I personally daily-drive a Rapid Power 2X68 right now, but I'm also curious about the mini 1X30 and 1X65. Nice video.

    • @AllThingsOnePlace
      @AllThingsOnePlace  16 днів тому +1

      Thanks, I added those to the list.

    • @LoganT547
      @LoganT547 13 днів тому

      No problem, I'm interested to see how they stack up with your tests.

  • @fayth78
    @fayth78 24 дні тому

    Heya hope your well. Is it worth buying the anker 325 at 29$? or are there any better options. I just need something to charge my phone in an emergency. or should i check the ugreen or iniu

    • @AllThingsOnePlace
      @AllThingsOnePlace  16 днів тому +1

      Yeah, for a backup charger the Anker is a safe bet.

  • @AntonioMM92
    @AntonioMM92 20 днів тому

    Hi I’m looking for a replacement for the dual usb-c Apple power adaptor of 35w. I need something portable, that can be used worldwide and that can charge simultaneously a switch or something else like an iPad Pro, and be hiked to the new Anker maggo 3 in 1 with MagSafe and QI2 for AirPods and Apple Watch. Thanks for your help 🙏🏻

    • @AllThingsOnePlace
      @AllThingsOnePlace  17 днів тому

      Thanks for watching. You probably would have to go with something like an Anker to get compatibility with more devices. But this Apple adapter will work for all the Apple things even if a bit oversized for charging a watch.

  • @kairefeare
    @kairefeare 19 днів тому

    would you be able to do a review on theaukey pab6s? it's a 2c1a 90w wall charger. it's a bit on the older side and the power split is odd. maybe it's not worth it but I would like to see your thoughts on it even if you don't purchase it.
    i do daily drive it and i love it, but i'm sure there's better alternatives now.

    • @AllThingsOnePlace
      @AllThingsOnePlace  17 днів тому

      Never heard of that one, added it to the list at least. I might have one here that is the same as that from another company.

  • @Blingem14
    @Blingem14 16 днів тому

    I have a question on cables. Who do you believe makes the highest quality cables? Usb C to lightning? Usb C to Usb C? Also the latest Thunderbolt? Hoping it’s a single brand but understand it may not be. Please help.

    • @AllThingsOnePlace
      @AllThingsOnePlace  16 днів тому +2

      It depends on what you need. Lightning is worse, I've tested lots of them they always test worse than any good USB C to C cable so these can't be the best quality. C to C and Thunderbolt can be one in the same but it all comes down to high speed data or no high speed data. Quality depends on needs and two basic needs for USB cables exist. Basic USB C to C cables operate at USB 2 speeds still but can offer the full speed charging. With the thinner data wires they have more room for power wires so can be more performant in the power space. Thunderbolt or USB 4 cables sacrifice some power capability to offer incredibly high data rates. They also tend to be thicker and more stiff cables. I really should just start making shorts to answer these comments.
      In terms of brand loyalty on cables I have none. I use the the way off brand ZEEXUS cable for high data needs and reasonable charging speed. I obviously use the Satechi short cables constantly, in the video production. Those don't leave the bench though. Cable creations for my USB A to C. The amazon basics ones aren't bad for the money. In the end it's what you need, charging 'efficiency' or low resistance, data requirements, then resilience of the cable.

    • @Blingem14
      @Blingem14 16 днів тому

      @@AllThingsOnePlace that helps some. I found your data sheet after sending that message. Appreciate all the detail and time on your channel. I will be following you closely.

  • @VaryemezAlp
    @VaryemezAlp 2 дні тому

    As undergrad EE who is interested in power electronics your channel is unfound gem. Any change to check out high power asus power adapters? Im thinking to get new one for my asus laptop and im curious about the how the stock one performs

    • @AllThingsOnePlace
      @AllThingsOnePlace  2 дні тому

      Good to hear! Yeah, not sure on Acers adapters. I have a lower power one, the connector is a really tiny barrel plug. I'd imagine they'd change that out for the high power adapters. But yeah, haven't done anything with Lenovo laptops either.

  • @Rich_EDC
    @Rich_EDC 26 днів тому +3

    Is it normal for gan chargers to have a low around 50hz buzzing sound vs more traditional chargers?

    • @LoganT547
      @LoganT547 18 днів тому +1

      No. If it's doing that you need to replace it ASAP. I had a cheap 100W charger a while ago, it would buzz when connected to my laptop and I opened a game or something. The laptop never drew more than 60W. Got rid of it ASAP

    • @AllThingsOnePlace
      @AllThingsOnePlace  17 днів тому +1

      Yeah, a mains buzz from one of these adapters is not normal.

  • @Sonderax
    @Sonderax 15 годин тому

    got the 70w with my air and dont use it 😅. I use the 20w folding power adapter as even during my most strenuous use cases it makes do. Been doing photo editing why on a 20w charger and gained charge why working across 3-4 hours

  • @Catzzye
    @Catzzye 26 днів тому

    Thanks that was interesting

  • @richarddickens2438
    @richarddickens2438 8 днів тому

    I opted for the 67W brick with my M2 MacBook Air, they had just updated that brick from 67W. M2 specs say fast charging at 67W. However, when I check System Information, it only says it is charging at 65W despite being a 67W adapter. Where did the 2W go?

    • @AllThingsOnePlace
      @AllThingsOnePlace  3 дні тому

      Haha, yeah, I think it's a marketing stunt and they're all 60W adapters, which became 65W, then 66, 67 and now 70W!!

  • @Chris-zu4es
    @Chris-zu4es 26 днів тому +2

    can you make a video with chargers that can substitute the bad quality in box chargers from Redmi. I have bought a few chargers but they just charge at 12-20w even if my in box charger charge at 120w or 67w...
    mostly the cable i don't like it breaks all the time and is hard short and stiff plastici

    • @joshau2346
      @joshau2346 26 днів тому

      Its likely that ur phone throttles the wattage to 12-20w. the 120w can only happen when the device allows it, such as a computer or a laptop. i charge my airpods and it automatically throttles to 5w due to its small battery

    • @Chris-zu4es
      @Chris-zu4es 26 днів тому

      @@joshau2346 yeah but it charges at 120w with the original charger so it is possible.

    • @spectrixx
      @spectrixx 26 днів тому +2

      Redmi/Xiaomi 120w chargers and cables use a proprietary charging specification (not USB-PD). So you're not going to find many alternative chargers.

    • @AllThingsOnePlace
      @AllThingsOnePlace  17 днів тому +1

      Also, 120W charging is marketing. It's the PMPO of power amplifiers.

    • @Chris-zu4es
      @Chris-zu4es 17 днів тому

      @@AllThingsOnePlace thanks for taking your time to explain to a caveman like me.. I think I'm just gonna have to use the inbox chargers it sounds like. possibly the cuktech charger/powerbank I will try I've seen a video where that cuktech powerbank charges a phone at 120w. I believe they are under the same umbrella corporation as Xiaomi. 👊🏽

  • @josephfilbert97
    @josephfilbert97 24 дні тому

    Hi I like your reviews on chargers. If you don't mind could you please review the LDNIO A6140C 140W desktop charger. I already have it but it causes some touch screen issues on some phones. I would be pleased if you want to review it, I'd like to hear your opinion of this charger. Thanks.

    • @AllThingsOnePlace
      @AllThingsOnePlace  16 днів тому

      Thanks, yeah, that is on the list, I'll need to do another 140W round since there have been a lot of chargers in that arena that have come out.

  • @alx9r
    @alx9r 26 днів тому +8

    The real story is Apple adapters last where others don’t.
    I’ll leave the following comment here because UA-cam won’t let me post it to the original thread on the Framework adapter review:
    On each amazon product page there is a box that allows you to search reviews on that product. I recommend searching “fail”, “d*ad”, and “di*d” (replace the * with e) on each of the products you are considering. I did so on each of the products reviewed by this channel in the 140W class as well as some others. That confirmed to me that the failures I saw weren’t anomalous.
    The Framework power supply is obviously too new to have much of a review history so it might be better to stick with those with a longer track record. I just did that search on a few of the most recent vintage of ~140W adapters. The recent negative reviews suggest that problem remains.

    • @AllThingsOnePlace
      @AllThingsOnePlace  17 днів тому

      Thanks! Yeah, I think apple or their OEM at apples request, spends more time analyzing thermals and MTBF, and also makes sure the adapter doesn't spend too much time at heavy loads by software limiting or thermal throttling the computers. Those cheap as chips 140W adapters I don't think get that same treatment.

  • @Reaper0x0
    @Reaper0x0 26 днів тому

    Great video ! Can I request for the review of CMF by nothing 65W GaN Charger please?

  • @snosov
    @snosov 19 днів тому

    I would love to see your research on Klaruslight K5 Waterproof Powerbank if you happen to get your hands on.

    • @AllThingsOnePlace
      @AllThingsOnePlace  18 днів тому

      Thanks for the suggestion.

    • @snosov
      @snosov 17 днів тому

      @@AllThingsOnePlace, thank you for what you are doing

  • @Ben610
    @Ben610 4 дні тому

    Would it be possible for you to test USB rechargeable AA batteries? These are the kind that each battery is connected to a USB cable instead of using a normal charger they sit in. It would be good to know if they are faster or more efficient, or if they are just a sales gimmick.

  • @marvinpb9818
    @marvinpb9818 24 дні тому

    Yo, is there any chance you could make a review for AOHI 40,000mAh powerbank?

    • @arthurmonay3156
      @arthurmonay3156 19 днів тому +1

      Yes ! I just asked for that one because I just bought one.

    • @AllThingsOnePlace
      @AllThingsOnePlace  17 днів тому +1

      haha, it's on the list, I don't have one yet though.

  • @artemi_sg
    @artemi_sg 25 днів тому

    I’d love to see the best travel adapter with a detachable cord video. I am still using the Anker 65W slim, but the 2 USB-A ports are slowly becoming a limitation.

  • @TheCreator919
    @TheCreator919 3 дні тому

    Can you include data for Belkin chargers? Apple sells them in their Apple Stores, you’d think they’d be the same quality as Apple.

    • @AllThingsOnePlace
      @AllThingsOnePlace  3 дні тому

      I haven't tested the belkins yet. I have them here though.

  • @108u9
    @108u9 26 днів тому +7

    Could you do a video explaining leakage current? I’ve felt it but never found anyone state what that is until I came across your videos. Is this current dangerous in any way? Is there anything that can be done to prevent it? Also is the presence of it a sign of anything bad or potentially going bad?
    Also would love to hear about that 230 volt thing.
    Not familiar with the technicalities of electronics and electrical stuff. Look forward to the possibility of learning more through the vids. Thank you!

    • @AArch64_Gamer
      @AArch64_Gamer 26 днів тому

      So leakage current is when some voltage escapes the packaging and circulates around the power adapter (from my understanding). As to what it feels like, I had a Lenovo laptop paired with 45 Watt Lenovo charger. Whenever I wrapped my hand around the charging brick to move it around, I would feel a tingling sensation in my hand.

    • @bigtitmaster
      @bigtitmaster 26 днів тому

      Leakage current can be dangerous if it is too high, but it mostly comes down to that tingling when you touch your metal device.
      230v is used mostly in Europe and switching power supplies are more efficient on it

    • @snusmumriken232
      @snusmumriken232 23 дні тому

      I am well acquainted with this concept from my old Titanium PowerBook and ungrounded outlets 😅

    • @AllThingsOnePlace
      @AllThingsOnePlace  17 днів тому +1

      So, the current around the adapter is a different thing but also a thing. The leakage to the output is the concept in this video, this is caused by the components inside the adapter, there is a small amount of coupling between the AC mains side and the DC output side. This varies adapter to adapter and causes the output tingling. The case of the adapter should be very isolated, if the body of the adapter leaks that much that's concerning.
      In general the rule is that an adapter will consume more idle power but be more efficient on 230V due to current being lower, but in this case the current demand is so high from the Apple adapter, it hurts the efficiency on 230V. It's still excellent but it's lower than when operated on 120V.

  • @user9b2
    @user9b2 19 днів тому +1

    I use the original 5 w adapter for my Apple Watch and iPhone - no reason to burn up the batteries as I charge overnight.

    • @AllThingsOnePlace
      @AllThingsOnePlace  18 днів тому +1

      It is functional. It is very inefficient. 70odd percent.

  • @BigEightiesNewWave
    @BigEightiesNewWave 26 днів тому

    Did they have to summon Jony Ive to design rounded corners, as on a candy-bar phone? Maybe that was the extra cost.

    • @oggilein1
      @oggilein1 26 днів тому

      theyve been using this shape of charger for over 20 years, my 2003 apple firewire charger is the exact same shape, the price really is the apple tax in full swing

    • @AllThingsOnePlace
      @AllThingsOnePlace  17 днів тому

      The shape maintains compatibilities with the extension cables from many years ago also. The value is still better than what they charge for storage. New iPads with 128GB.

  • @8r4n
    @8r4n День тому

    Please begin evaluating the RF noise level generated by these products. I’ve noticed FCC logos on some of the products you review, but you don’t seem to address this issue

    • @AllThingsOnePlace
      @AllThingsOnePlace  День тому

      I can't do that, do I want to, sure, because yes, some of these are lying... but that's big business, about $10k per day to rent one of those labs. Lets do some scamonomics, LTT has 15 million subs, I have 0.2% of that, they make 1.5 million (just ad sense) a year, that means I make $3000 a year, yeah, some people think that's too much, should be zero... Room for improvement, check that on the audit box.

    • @8r4n
      @8r4n 18 годин тому

      @@AllThingsOnePlace a faraday box is about $3k. Hobbyists SDRs are about $2k.

  • @bernardogaetani
    @bernardogaetani 10 днів тому

    Does it works well for M1 Pro Macbook 14?

  • @jay13200
    @jay13200 21 годину тому

    Where is the THD thats the main information you missed out where can I get it?

  • @bienveniddoguapohola6575
    @bienveniddoguapohola6575 26 днів тому

    Hola, le informo que los listados de seguridad bajo las etiquetas N, NOM y NYCE, obedecen a las normativas mexicanas. Lo anterior lo sé ya que estos símbolos se incluyen en los adaptadores de Samsung distribuidos en México.

  • @adriftatlas
    @adriftatlas 26 днів тому +2

    No power factor correction if I'm reading your equipment right.

    • @AllThingsOnePlace
      @AllThingsOnePlace  26 днів тому +1

      Yeah, this is actually one of the worst for power factor and distortion. It makes sense though, like the framework 60W, oversize other components to make it last longer, this does marginally improve real power performance as that is all the standards ask for. I have obviously heavily shifted to standards based reactions, which is a narrow picture, but the standards are the published guidelines we have to work with, also written by the manufacturers. When analyzed on a one device basis, which is all anyone ever does, it's fine.

  • @vasudevmenon2496
    @vasudevmenon2496 25 днів тому

    Apple would have added 2w but that would not be a good name so added extra 1w to make it round value 70W. BTW which is the Amazon basics 65W?

  • @flymetothemoon297
    @flymetothemoon297 9 днів тому

    Hello new subscriber here can you debunk the multi charger, I mean is it good enough? if its good I hope you notice me i"ll put the link came from amazon

    • @AllThingsOnePlace
      @AllThingsOnePlace  3 дні тому +1

      It depends on your needs. I use a 4 port charger, the Satechi 165W, it isn't for everyone, it has quirks for sure, but I'm able to charge all my devices and don't have interruptions on charge finished, etc. The single port charger of course is always going to be a bit more stable. If your device is battery powered though the multiport charger is generally a good solution to multiple adapters.

  • @snusmumriken232
    @snusmumriken232 23 дні тому

    Why do you think Apple doesn’t use GaN? Do you think it’s a “we don’t care” thing due to volume, or something about producing GaN at scale, whether the expense or marginal safety difference or something else?

    • @AllThingsOnePlace
      @AllThingsOnePlace  16 днів тому

      They use GaN in the 140W adapter. I'm not sure if this one does or not, I think they choose not to advertise it like everyone else. The marketing materials are interesting though.

  • @JoeS97756
    @JoeS97756 26 днів тому

    Just checked the one that came with my MacBookAir and it's only 30W?

    • @NikolaiCherepanov
      @NikolaiCherepanov 26 днів тому

      I can charge my MacBook Pro M1 Max off the 18W USB charger for the iPhones, trust me you are okay 👍

    • @JoeS97756
      @JoeS97756 26 днів тому

      @@NikolaiCherepanov Yea it charges just fine, just surprised they have more than doubled the wattage.

    • @AllThingsOnePlace
      @AllThingsOnePlace  17 днів тому

      Yeah, just a bit faster charging.

  • @SinghalRishi27
    @SinghalRishi27 26 днів тому

    please compare 87 and 96 wattt

  • @whophd
    @whophd 10 днів тому

    I miss the 2000-era winding cables, though I also want USB-C

  • @00SNIVY00
    @00SNIVY00 11 днів тому

    I think I saw an open box one of those for like, $20, I wish I bought it tbh.

  • @adalbert93_75
    @adalbert93_75 26 днів тому +3

    Overall PQS seems quite low (58).. Would you consider this product inferior to Amazon Basics 65W or Belkin 108W which both have much higher overall PQS? Great testing as always, keep up the great work! :)

    • @AllThingsOnePlace
      @AllThingsOnePlace  17 днів тому +1

      You are the only one to notice or comment on that. But yes, it is very low. Essentially, it will end up being on par with the Amazon Basics for household energy use even though it should be more efficient. Assuming you only have one of them, and no other non-PFC switching power supplies in your residence.

  • @mishafran
    @mishafran 26 днів тому

    This the side of UA-cam I’m happy to be on

  • @DerekDavis213
    @DerekDavis213 26 днів тому +1

    A quality 65 watt GaN charger only costs 35 USD on Amazon.
    Apple 70 watt charger is about 60 bucks.

    • @DozIT
      @DozIT 26 днів тому

      In terms of build quality and efficiency Apple may pull ahead, but I’ve got a UGREEN 100w charger (think it was around $60) with 3 USB C ports and one USB A port - which has been great!

    • @Ben21756
      @Ben21756 26 днів тому +1

      After having a bad experience with third-party products like Anker, I mainly go for Apple now unless I don't have a choice. You're paying a premium for a reason, don't cheap out if possible.

    • @DerekDavis213
      @DerekDavis213 26 днів тому

      @@Ben21756 what is the reason?

    • @Ben21756
      @Ben21756 26 днів тому

      @@DerekDavis213 To give some context, I first tried charging my Sony XM5 with the Apple as I normally do, but it wouldn't charge, aside from that nothing else happened. I then tried it with Anker and it completely fried the charging port of my XM5, would've caused a fire if I hadn't noticed the overheating. So from what I understand, Apple has an extra layer of safety protection that Anker doesn't have, as it detected an unsafe charging environment and refused to initiate charging, Anker didn't, creating a fire hazard.

    • @AllThingsOnePlace
      @AllThingsOnePlace  17 днів тому

      hmm. That sounds dangerous, curious what happened to the sony to make it act that way.

  • @egisantoso949
    @egisantoso949 8 днів тому

    My 60watt adapter with mb pro 16inch m1 pro died in a month. Apple service center replace it with new one.

    • @AllThingsOnePlace
      @AllThingsOnePlace  3 дні тому

      Yeah, there are always going to be some failures, thanks for sharing, also glad to hear they replaced it.

  • @Derpy1969
    @Derpy1969 23 дні тому

    Quietly updated?
    HEY GUYS! BUY OUR NEW ADAPTERS!!!

  • @ryanwwest
    @ryanwwest 23 дні тому

    You should check out the Baseus Blade 2 next, it's super thin and I'm curious if it have the same problems as the previous.

  • @rorywalters1614
    @rorywalters1614 10 днів тому

    I’m still on my 61w charger

  • @supercellex4D
    @supercellex4D 11 днів тому

    In reality this adapter just like the 140W one is probably no different than an OEM barrel jack you get with your old PC laptop. It's a pack-in product, not something to be sold besides replacements

  • @DerekDavis213
    @DerekDavis213 26 днів тому +6

    3 extra watts. Tim Cook is a genius!

    • @AllThingsOnePlace
      @AllThingsOnePlace  26 днів тому +2

      Wait until next year. 70 wait for it.. plus 1 watt!

  • @gregandark8571
    @gregandark8571 25 днів тому

    Do you know HOTA H24 245W GaN Gallium Nitride AC Adapter which can be also used to power any laptops?
    There is the main module, the HOTA H24 and it's PD3.1 module P24.
    Should be very nice to test this cheap power supply with that PD 3.1 module to see what this time the chines has cooked for us again.

    • @AllThingsOnePlace
      @AllThingsOnePlace  16 днів тому +1

      yeah that's something to check out, I also have a subcompact 300w one I got on ebay.

  • @YukonHawk1
    @YukonHawk1 26 днів тому +1

    Maybe other companies should practice what Apple does as far as manufacturing standards go. 🤔

  • @AlphineWolf
    @AlphineWolf 6 днів тому

    So Iniu has released a new 25W power adapter. Im guessing in response to Samsung's new 25W charger.😂

    • @AllThingsOnePlace
      @AllThingsOnePlace  3 дні тому

      Not sure in reaction to, but yeah, I'm sure I'll look at it. I did a short on one of the Iniu chargers, it was okay.

    • @AlphineWolf
      @AlphineWolf 3 дні тому

      @@AllThingsOnePlace seems to be available only on their aliexpress store front. Not on their website or Amazon store front 🤔
      I'm probably going to pick up one of the Samsung new efficient chargers and use the iniu 65W charger for on the go charging. Going to be a while before Samsung releases an efficient model for the 65W class

  • @Reishira-ln73ks
    @Reishira-ln73ks 26 днів тому +2

    If people was so religious they would not have a apple correct

  • @MePeterNicholls
    @MePeterNicholls 18 днів тому

    Isn’t it all nominal anyway?

  • @burhanbudak6041
    @burhanbudak6041 26 днів тому +5

    C O U R A G E ?

    • @AllThingsOnePlace
      @AllThingsOnePlace  26 днів тому +6

      haha, I wrote it in and then I was like nah, too easy.

  • @maxracer95
    @maxracer95 24 дні тому

    Just found you - great vids, subbed! I was on travel a year ago and needed a charger, found this target house-branded jobby for ~35 and did a double-take: target 68w-gan-charger-heyday-8482-stone-white #A-84145751. Seemed like a little gem in a sea of garbage so I bought it and it's been my EDC ever since, takes whatever I throw at it. Despite that, I still have my doubts to its quality so I'm curious what your thoughts are.
    I figure we're all looking for good options so maybe this one is decent but overlooked because it's a budget big-box house brand. or I should throw mine away immediately? ^_^
    I used to recommend these Apple chargers to everyone in the early days of USB charging, but like you mention here, I feel like Apple is more catering to what they need from a charger these days rather than being compatible with everything.

    • @AllThingsOnePlace
      @AllThingsOnePlace  16 днів тому

      haha, if it's held up this long it's probably in it for the long haul. I did add it to the list though. I've tried a few branded chargers like walmart, monoprice, Ikea, Best Buy (insignia) but yeah haven't tried target. I need to go on a drive around and pick up a bunch of random bits and pieces from the various chains. Yeah, this apple charger is good but it really is for apple devices.