Awesome. A belted kingfisher. I’ve always wanted to see one - we don’t get them natively over here. And it’s looking so clean. Great work, well done Dan. I hope you don’t mind but I’m going to pin your comment so that other people can see your effort.
Sorry but I had to reply comment too I hope you both don’t mind. It is great to get a fresh way of thinking when it comes to processing isn’t it Ray. Scott is great and I love his way of presenting this. A lot of other photographers won’t give you this much information without being part of a paywall, more credit to Scott
This is the most comprehensive noise reduction video I've ever seen. Just in time for me to edit some wedding dance images with way too high ISO. Thank you for your detailed upload. I'll have to investigate your channel further.
Hi Darian. Wow that's a lot of pressure to get wedding photos right. I hope it all went well for you. Please feel free to check out the other videos, but it's all wildlife, macro and landscapes - I wouldn't dare try to photograph a wedding - you've got my respect for that.
@@WalksOnTheWildSide It's not bad but my 2nd camera is a 5Dmkiii so it gets noisy as I bring up shadows. This tutorial helped me immensely. Just watched some of your macro videos and the high key stuff was astonishing!
For years, I’ve been so scared to shoot photos at night due to high iso and getting grain in photos, but after watching this video and getting all this information I’m now excited to go out at night and take some test shots/edit them. Thank you so much! 😊
Now this is the kind of video I crave for when I want to learn something. Highly detailed, well explained, and no BS. Learned quite a lot from it. Thank you so much for such top notch video!
There was a method I used to do with my old point and shoot and old phone camera because they produced a lot noise and didn't have manual mode. I would keep my camera very still and shoot in burst, creating like 10+ images of the same scene. I would take those images and stack them into 1 Photoshop project. I might want to select all the layers and auto align them just to be safe. With all of them selected, I would then convert them into 1 smart object. I would go to the top of my screen and select Layer > Smart Objects > Stack Mode > Mean and this will blend all the images together. Because the noise location differs from one image to the next, blending them will smooth out the image as if there is no noise at all
Hi Some Guy. Yes that's a great method - it's what astro photographers do because they have to shoot at such high ISOs. It doesn't often work with wildlife, because the subjects rarely stay still long enough, but a great tip anyway. Thanks for watching.
Seriously cannot state how helpful this video was! A revelation around every corner. Which is saying something because I’ve been into photography and using photoshop and Lightroom for over a decade now. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks Michael - yes it's one of those weird features of Lightroom that you just couldn't guess was there unless you already knew. Thanks for watching.
@@WalksOnTheWildSide While I knew about the Alt key (it was revealed to me in one of those initial guides in the new Lightroom, or Lightroom Cloud as it's known), until now I didn't really know how to make the best use of it and what exactly am I looking at, so thanks for explaining that. So far I managed to make use of the masking slider which is the most noticeable, but the other two were a bit elusive as to how much is too much, or too little for that matter. But this multilayered approach with the power of Topaz truly shines.
There are so many photo videos online that don't teach you anything new, but from time to time, you find one like this one! So helpful and clear! I learned so many useful tips in such a small video. Thank you !
This HAS to be one of if not the best vids on photo enhancement, particularly in regard to sharpening/ ISO, I have seen in I don't know how many years of surfing the net and reading. THANK YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Very rare these days that a photo tutorial show me something I don't know, but I actually learned a lot from this! If I'm being honest, I don't mind luminance noise in most images. I usually just stick to chroma reduction since that barely affects sharpness, and I'll even put more grain on top if the luma noise is high. I'll have to keep these tips in mind though if I really want to clean something up.
This just popped up in my recommended videos, now I see I’ve been doing my noise reduction wrong for the past 13/14 years. I will subscribe and look for more tutorials so I can learn more. This is an outstanding description of how to deal with noise, must be the best on UA-cam hands down. Thanks so much for taking the time to do this, I bet it took ages 😎
Thanks. Glad it was useful. You're right, it did take a while to put it together, but I was keen to have it all in one video, so people can get the most out of it. Thanks for watching.
HOLY MOLY! I thought I was the only one using layers to reduce noise especially with nighttime photography. But this was an Excellent job of explaining the process and methodology. You've gained a subscriber. Thank you!
The thing about using the camera manufacturer's software to denoise first, then exporting as a tiff for lightroom/whatever - that's *golden*. Thank you!
Very good. I am just beginning bird photography (75 years old but still going strong!) with an old Canon t3i---600D--and a Canon 55-250 lens. So, I'm limited. But before I invest in a more appropriate quality telephoto lens I want to learn as much as I can. Your videos are extremely helpful. Very well presented and understandable. Thank you. (Also, I like that you get right to the topic and don't have a lot of blah-blah before the lesson.)
Hi James. That's great to hear, I hope your introduction to bird photography is going well and you're getting lots of nice images. Thanks for your comment and for watching.
Nicely done.... probably the most comprehensive tutorial on noise reduction I have ever seen.... amazingly surprised by the fact that I was aware of most of the content, still was able to gain from it, I generally shoot at base ISO with controlled lighting and usually don’t have to deal with much noise issues, I have used photoshop layers magic for 25 years on this occasion it was the case of adding 2+2 to get to 4. As they say you never stop learning.....
Hi Scott, I am a bird photographer and noise is very important especially when I go to a rainforest or overcast conditions. I have been looking for a possibility to test run the fact on my Z9. Starting from ISO 64 to 10.000, I have captured series of photos with same aperture (7,1) (500mm f4 Lens) and changed only the shutter in every step to provide the same white balance on the photo-series. Btw I can share the results. - According to the diagram there are two important points to focus : 1- The noise level on ISO100 and ISO500 looks to be the same as nearly 1,45 2- The noise level on ISO400 and ISO2000 looks to be the same as nearly 3,35 Of course we are not able to test and prove with special devices but can make our own test to compare. The results are unfortunately not like in the diagram. Comparing photos taken in ISO 400 to ISO600, There is significantly more noise in ISO 600 than ISO400. When continued to compare with ISO 800 and the above, getting relatively more noises in every step that I go above. I can only agree "the noise in ISO 500 is slightly less then ISO 400". This is a good news for z9 users. At least one step gain is someting in hand. Comparing ISO400 to ISO 2000 is almost not possible and the results are far different like day and night. For sure 400 is much cleaner and with lesser noise. Although the diagram confirms to be the same but is not the fact and the case indeed. Of course the information and the data source you shared is defending an important argument. I agree it has a value of a news to share. But in the same way, such individual tests that we could make at home should also confirm and prove the argument issued. Above are my tests and my realities vs the website's information. On the other side if it was really correct, why would manufacturer NIKON give the options between ISO 500 to1600 as there would be more noise than ISO400. They would immediatly jump from ISO400 to 2000 in the settings. That would make sense. I can not blame the website for the other cameras. But Z9 is the highest available top level series of NIKON. It is extremely important and I respect you did right to share. If possible in your convenience, I would definitely respect to your tests to compare and share with us if possible. To be honest it took me only half an hour to put things together and compare. I am taking all the information you are sharing extremely important and serious. So grateful that you are sharing and posting all. All the best. Thank you once again Scott.
Hi Mustafa. I really doubt that the website is wrong. The Nikon Z9 has been out a long time now and if the results were wrong someone would have spotted it before. There was another person who claimed the results were wrong (you can find their comments elsewhere on this video) and I spent a long time helping them. It turned out the website was right all along. You can also search online for something like "Nikon Z9 dual gain" and they will all confirm that the switch in noise performance happens at ISO 500. I've just done this and there are countless websites that confirm the results are correct, but none that confirm your results are correct. The most likely explanation for your results is that you have something switched on in your camera that is affecting the results. You might have in-camera noise reduction switched on - this would definitely affect the results. Dynamic range optimisation (or D-Range, or DRO) also needs to be off. Basically switch off anything that does anything automatically in your camera as it may affect the results. Even then, I'm not sure what the specification is for photos that can be used to test this. You would need to ask the guy who runs the photons to photos website. Sorry, I can't carry out the tests that you've asked for at the moment - I'm really busy at the moment, but I hope this response helps.
Just wanted you to know, your video is the first video that provided step by step instructions, that made sense for me in dealing with noise in my photos. I really appreciate you sharing you knowledge on this. It will make a world of different in my photo editing process and the quality of my photos going forward.
Wow, this is a ‘must watch’ for every digital photographer; there’s so much misconceptions that you’ve cleared up in this one video. Thanks for sharing👍🏼👍🏼 Subbed😄
You got to love videos explaining the science behind it, till today i never figured out how the noise reduction in lightroom worked and would just apply sharpness and masking without the color noise and luminence noise reduction. And even if i applied i didn't know how much to apply. I have just gotten into wildlife photography and this video just solves so much of the problems that arise with high iso imaging. simple and greatly done! thank you!
This was the most amazing presentation. I've been working with Topaz DeNoise a lot, but your masking approach is so superior and makes so much sense. You are my new, favorite youtuber....I will be following your work very closely in the future!
A long video, Scott, but I stayed with it and pleased I did. Just started using a Z9 and I had already learned about it’s ISO invariance and so now avoid ISO levels between 100 and 500. 500 is my default unless I’m doing landscapes with a tripod. Not every image is worth the time you put into the kingfisher shot but the photoshop technique is very interesting and one day I’ll give it a try! I have LR, PS and Denoise so your advice is very helpful. Many thanks.
Thanks Geoff. Yes, I wouldn't want to use the payers method for every photo. But it has saved me from having to discard photos quite a few times. So it's a good technique to have in your back pocket. Thanks for watching.
Perfect combination of knowledge, experience, skill, patience, and creative problem solving. You know your tools as well as we all should aspire to. Thank you.
Most of the time noise is not as big of an issue as over exposed areas and lack of dynamic range in digital image files. Contrary to SLR cameras using film, DSLR cameras picks up details in darker areas better than brightly lit areas so I always shoot at -0.5 stop; slightly under-exposed. While this leads to slightly noisier photos, it also gives the added benefit of slightly shorter shutter times and hopefully sharper images as all my shots are handheld of things that move. I think some noise in images are fine, its part of the art. All the images in this video are totally fine without noise reduction, and you could probably produce fairly large prints from them and nobody would care about the existing noise. And thats the key: those you share them with enjoys your art without worrying about technical stuff. You, the photographer may perceive problems with the noise, but for everybody else it is a non-issue until you really cant make out anything. Life is too short to eradicate all noise in photos . This video shows some really great methods to reduce a lot of noise, but for most images, blown out areas leaves you nothing to work with. Where these methods may really come into play are if you are trying to resurrect old photos; digital photos from the 90s or 35mm film scans etc. You'd be surprised how noisy or rather grainy 100ISO film was, even when perfectly exposed.
Hi Peter, I've no issues with that. Noise is matter of personal taste. In fact, I notice a lot of the youngsters adding in noise and grain artificially to try and replicate the film look. Personally I like to reduce as much of the noise as I can. It's not about other people's perceptions of my photos - it's just my personal preference. Each to their own, and I totally respect if you like to have some noise in your images. Thanks for watching.
I was ready to skip the first section thinking that I knew everything I needed to know about ISO, but I'm so glad I stuck around. I learned about the specifics of my camera's noise levels and realized that my prior assumptions were all wrong. Thanks so much!
Your method of teaching works brilliantly for me. I've always needed to know how and why and sometimes experts speed through the details or skip the why. I will watch this over and over until I get it committed to memory. Thanks!
Mate, this is the first video I've watched about ISO and noise reduction since videography is more my niche, but man this left me in awe. Thank you for sharing this here, you trully are a legend!
Properly explained, I wish I knew this before I had edited 1300 photos from my honeymoon to Africa. Even just understanding the details of denoise an sharpening in lightroom at this level of detail is a game changer on its own. Congratulations, best video on noise reduction
Wow, thank you. I'm so happy to hear that and glad I can be of help. I hope it wasn't too painful editing all those photos, but I bet you got some amazing photos and memories. Congratulations on your wedding. Thanks for watching.
If you were one of my school teachers back in the day, I would have enjoyed going to school and definitely would have learned a lot more. Without doubt the best noise video I've ever seen. Thank you sir.
All I have to say is WOW! One of the best explanations of iso and how to clean it up. I've been doing photography as a hobby for the past 25 years and you've just made my day! Taking the Z9 out for birding in a few hrs and will have to try your method for cleaning up some of those dirty pics. Thank You.
@Walks on The Wild Side You just get new Subscriber no more fears to used ISO button . Hard to believe that everything can be explained so clearly and comprehensibly in such a short time Thank you so much.
YT recommended your video to me, 6+ videos later, I gotta tell you, your information, practical applications & on-location shoots are jam-packed with gems! Seriously, I've learned so much! New Sub! 🤙🏾
I congratulate you for putting a wonderful tutorial up for everyone to learn from. Fascinating stuff about dual ISO's Noise reduction/sharpness etc. etc. Happy I found your channel!!!!
Superb video! I now know the best ISO marks for all my cameras and a “I can’t believe I didn’t think of that” method for in-depth noise reduction! Thank you! 👍
Can I say, "I love you, Man" without getting too personal? At 1minute in, I said "thank the lord". Reason: I'm an amateur photographer that hasn't been shooting more than a few years. After the first year, I did a ton of reading (and still do). I could tell people more about OSPDAF systems then they care to hear. I've heard far too many professional photographers (with UA-cam Channels) who will frequently state that ISO is part of the exposure triangle - and as you say - that turning up ISO increases your camera's /sensor's sensitivity to light - which it absolutely does not. Now before I sound like I don't understand the point they are making, I do. One even told me "I do it just to keep things simple and not confuse people". Sheesh. So thank you for keeping it real, even for those that fail to understand. You can turn up the volume of sound (after recording) increases the gain (noise) of music as well....but some how in photography's digital age, this basic fact of ISO increasing gain / noise of light that has already been recorded (based solely on transmissibility of light through the lens and shutter speed seems to be elusive for many. Thank you. Your explanation is much appreciated. Well done! (Just an aside: I do believe back in the film days it was technically called ISO, but ASA - different standards governing body, but the point your making is spot on). Brilliant break down and the best video I've seen on the subject. I'm now a big fan! ...and now that I completed watching the video, You, my friend, totally ROCK!
Thanks so much. I really appreciate it. I just believe that anyone who creates content with an aim to educate has a duty to make it understandable, not to alter the meaning. So, sometimes that means my videos are a bit longer than others, but I hope they are more helpful. So I'm going to send some love back and say thanks for watching - it's people like yourself who make this worthwhile.
@@WalksOnTheWildSide Thank you as well, and just FYI, I've sent your video to several photographers as a "IF YOU DO NOTHING ELSE, THIS IS A MUST WATCH". I did think up a few topics that might make future videos (you are so good at breaking things down) - including does "Compression" of longer focal lengths really exist or why in APSC cameras, you have to factor in the "crop" factor to focal length and aperture. A concept that seems to elude many. I'll try and write some down for consideration. Thank you again. It was an excellent video and well worth the time and the watch.
Excellent tutorial, many thanks. The ultimate noise reduction explanation and comparison. It seems that DeNoise is best for speed and ease, the Photoshop layers the ultimate result.
You gave me at least three tips/ideas for noise reduction and sharpening. I never, never thought of using Nikon NX to do pre-post work before doing final post in Topaz tools or Affinity photo. Thank you. Great information.
When I clicked on this videos, I wasn't sure what to expect, but this is such a GOOD video and really helps understanding noise. Thank you so much for this!
Your video has been super helpful. I did not know that numerous base ISOs exist. Also, I now further understand how to use the unsharp mask and reducing noise features in lightroom. I'm so glad I came upon your video!
Scott, your video is a masterclass! Your way of explaining things works so well for me - exactly the level of detail I need. I admire your skill in photography, and communication.
This video should be declared as Bible of Noise reduction. Very simple way viewers understood which shows the great effort you put and the knowledge you gained all the years.. keep up amazing work . Great tutorial i ever watched 😍
So much wonderful, detailed, and clear information! I've been a full time professional photographer for 13 years and this taught me so much! Thank you!
Hi Shawna. Thank you very much. I had a look at your website, nice work. I especially liked the baby asleep at a mini-desk - so cute. Thanks for your comment and for watching.
All good things come to people who are prepared to put the effort in. Absolutely the best noise reduction vid on You tube I have ever seen, Brilliant can’t wait to try. Thanks for sharing
this changes everything for me. I’ve never really thought about sharpness before, embarassingly enough. I was wondering what I’m missing to take my photography to the next level.
No worries. Lots of people have never been told about think link between sharpness and denoise. I remember it blowing my mind when I found out. But once you know, it is a bit of a game changer.
I don't know if I could ever be so fastidious with processing my photos as the Photoshop mask method but now at least I know what I could do if I were be patient enough. This has been the best lesson of noise reduction in the known universe. Thank you Scott.
Hi Scott, You have opened my eyes - was banging in a preset of Noise oly & ignoring colour and sharpness pretty much. You just gave me so many better pictures - thank yiou!
excellent 👌
Hi Dan, thanks for watching.
Awesome. A belted kingfisher. I’ve always wanted to see one - we don’t get them natively over here. And it’s looking so clean. Great work, well done Dan. I hope you don’t mind but I’m going to pin your comment so that other people can see your effort.
@@WalksOnTheWildSide sure no problem
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This video Did more for me in 40 minutes than i have learned in 10 years of watching other videos
Hi Ray. That's very kind, I'm glad to be helpful. Thank you for watching.
Sorry but I had to reply comment too I hope you both don’t mind. It is great to get a fresh way of thinking when it comes to processing isn’t it Ray. Scott is great and I love his way of presenting this. A lot of other photographers won’t give you this much information without being part of a paywall, more credit to Scott
Very nice of you to say that, thank you James.
Indeed, not an exaggeration, very detail and consolidated explanation
Same here
This is the most comprehensive noise reduction video I've ever seen. Just in time for me to edit some wedding dance images with way too high ISO. Thank you for your detailed upload. I'll have to investigate your channel further.
Hi Darian. Wow that's a lot of pressure to get wedding photos right. I hope it all went well for you. Please feel free to check out the other videos, but it's all wildlife, macro and landscapes - I wouldn't dare try to photograph a wedding - you've got my respect for that.
@@WalksOnTheWildSide It's not bad but my 2nd camera is a 5Dmkiii so it gets noisy as I bring up shadows. This tutorial helped me immensely. Just watched some of your macro videos and the high key stuff was astonishing!
This is by far the best de-noise tutorial out there. And I’m watching and searching for years. Thank you, this is treasure 👍
Wow, thank you. I'm so happy to hear that and glad I can be of help. Thanks for watching.
For years, I’ve been so scared to shoot photos at night due to high iso and getting grain in photos, but after watching this video and getting all this information I’m now excited to go out at night and take some test shots/edit them. Thank you so much! 😊
Hi Kay. Great stuff, give it a go. Glad you found it helpful and thanks for watching.
I have been scared taking photos at night for other reasons … 🤣
Now this is the kind of video I crave for when I want to learn something. Highly detailed, well explained, and no BS. Learned quite a lot from it. Thank you so much for such top notch video!
Wow, thank you. I'm so happy to hear that and glad I can be of help. Thanks for watching.
By far the best and most humble video I have ever seen... Thanks a lot for sharing the knowledge. 🙇🏻
Very kind of you and I'm happy to help. Thanks for watching.
There was a method I used to do with my old point and shoot and old phone camera because they produced a lot noise and didn't have manual mode. I would keep my camera very still and shoot in burst, creating like 10+ images of the same scene. I would take those images and stack them into 1 Photoshop project. I might want to select all the layers and auto align them just to be safe. With all of them selected, I would then convert them into 1 smart object. I would go to the top of my screen and select Layer > Smart Objects > Stack Mode > Mean and this will blend all the images together. Because the noise location differs from one image to the next, blending them will smooth out the image as if there is no noise at all
Hi Some Guy. Yes that's a great method - it's what astro photographers do because they have to shoot at such high ISOs. It doesn't often work with wildlife, because the subjects rarely stay still long enough, but a great tip anyway. Thanks for watching.
truly this one of the most amazingly educational videos i have watched ever about photography . many thanks
Happy to help. Thanks for watching.
Seriously cannot state how helpful this video was! A revelation around every corner. Which is saying something because I’ve been into photography and using photoshop and Lightroom for over a decade now. Thanks for sharing!
I'm glad you found it useful, thanks for watching.
Scott you’re a national treasure mate…this was awesome
You're making me blush - but glad it was useful. Thanks for watching.
The Alt key and sliders blew my mind. This has been the best explanation of noise and sharpening I've ever seen. Thank you!
Thanks Michael - yes it's one of those weird features of Lightroom that you just couldn't guess was there unless you already knew. Thanks for watching.
@@WalksOnTheWildSide While I knew about the Alt key (it was revealed to me in one of those initial guides in the new Lightroom, or Lightroom Cloud as it's known), until now I didn't really know how to make the best use of it and what exactly am I looking at, so thanks for explaining that. So far I managed to make use of the masking slider which is the most noticeable, but the other two were a bit elusive as to how much is too much, or too little for that matter.
But this multilayered approach with the power of Topaz truly shines.
came here to say the same!! thank you for this information, ive been trying to get my photos to look great that were taken at high ISO!
This is by FAR the best tutorial about sharpness, noise and noise reduction, I've seen so far !
Wow, thank you. I'm so happy to hear that and glad I can be of help. Thanks for watching.
There are so many photo videos online that don't teach you anything new, but from time to time, you find one like this one! So helpful and clear! I learned so many useful tips in such a small video. Thank you !
Wow, thank you. I'm so happy to hear that and glad I can be of help. Thanks for watching.
This HAS to be one of if not the best vids on photo enhancement, particularly in regard to sharpening/ ISO, I have seen in I don't know how many years of surfing the net and reading. THANK YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hi Peter. Wow, thank you. I'm so happy to hear that and glad I can be of help. Thanks for watching.
Very rare these days that a photo tutorial show me something I don't know, but I actually learned a lot from this!
If I'm being honest, I don't mind luminance noise in most images. I usually just stick to chroma reduction since that barely affects sharpness, and I'll even put more grain on top if the luma noise is high. I'll have to keep these tips in mind though if I really want to clean something up.
Thanks, pleased it's helpful. Thanks for watching.
I watch a lot of videos and have been in photography for 35 years. You Sir have a incredible knowledge. Thanks for sharing
Wow, thank you. I'm so happy to hear that and glad I can be of help. Thanks for watching.
This just popped up in my recommended videos, now I see I’ve been doing my noise reduction wrong for the past 13/14 years. I will subscribe and look for more tutorials so I can learn more.
This is an outstanding description of how to deal with noise, must be the best on UA-cam hands down.
Thanks so much for taking the time to do this, I bet it took ages
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Thanks. Glad it was useful. You're right, it did take a while to put it together, but I was keen to have it all in one video, so people can get the most out of it. Thanks for watching.
I've been a photographer for about two years, and I can easily say this is one of the best and most helpful videos I've found, well done!!!
Hi Dane. Happy to help. Thanks for watching.
A fantastically logical, well thought out video as usual, treat to watch and learn from. Thanks!
Thank you very much, I'm pleased you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching.
Finally someone that takes the time to really help educate the viewer. Thankyou.
HOLY MOLY! I thought I was the only one using layers to reduce noise especially with nighttime photography. But this was an Excellent job of explaining the process and methodology. You've gained a subscriber. Thank you!
Excellent. Glad to hear there are others out there doing this too. Thanks for watching.
The thing about using the camera manufacturer's software to denoise first, then exporting as a tiff for lightroom/whatever - that's *golden*. Thank you!
Happy to help. Thanks for watching.
Very good. I am just beginning bird photography (75 years old but still going strong!) with an old Canon t3i---600D--and a Canon 55-250 lens. So, I'm limited. But before I invest in a more appropriate quality telephoto lens I want to learn as much as I can. Your videos are extremely helpful. Very well presented and understandable. Thank you. (Also, I like that you get right to the topic and don't have a lot of blah-blah before the lesson.)
Hi James. That's great to hear, I hope your introduction to bird photography is going well and you're getting lots of nice images. Thanks for your comment and for watching.
Lesgooooo James! Very nice!
Greetings from Germany
This is the best walk through/ explanation of what ISO and noise is and how to process it. Thanks a million! 👍😃😄
Happy to help. Thanks for watching.
Scott, this is brilliant. I never would have thought of doing that. I am planning to change my workflow to incorporate it!
Hi Philip. Glad it's helpful. Thanks for watching.
Scott, Fantastic job. The best I've seen on the net. In addition, explained in a simple, concise and intelligent way. Bravissimo!
Glad it was helpful. thanks for watching.
Nicely done.... probably the most comprehensive tutorial on noise reduction I have ever seen....
amazingly surprised by the fact that I was aware of most of the content, still was able to gain from it, I generally shoot at base ISO with controlled lighting and usually don’t have to deal with much noise issues, I have used photoshop layers magic for 25 years on this occasion it was the case of adding 2+2 to get to 4.
As they say you never stop learning.....
Hi Nilo. Glad you liked it and could still learn a little, even with your experience. Thanks for watching.
it blew my mind how much i didnt know about ISO and noise... so good video, so informative, THANK YOU.
Hi Jabb. Glad its helpful. Thanks for watching.
Hi Scott,
I am a bird photographer and noise is very important especially when I go to a rainforest or overcast conditions. I have been looking for a possibility to test run the fact on my Z9.
Starting from ISO 64 to 10.000, I have captured series of photos with same aperture (7,1) (500mm f4 Lens) and changed only the shutter in every step to provide the same white balance on the photo-series. Btw I can share the results.
- According to the diagram there are two important points to focus :
1- The noise level on ISO100 and ISO500 looks to be the same as nearly 1,45
2- The noise level on ISO400 and ISO2000 looks to be the same as nearly 3,35
Of course we are not able to test and prove with special devices but can make our own test to compare.
The results are unfortunately not like in the diagram.
Comparing photos taken in ISO 400 to ISO600, There is significantly more noise in ISO 600 than ISO400. When continued to compare with ISO 800 and the above, getting relatively more noises in every step that I go above. I can only agree "the noise in ISO 500 is slightly less then ISO 400". This is a good news for z9 users. At least one step gain is someting in hand.
Comparing ISO400 to ISO 2000 is almost not possible and the results are far different like day and night. For sure 400 is much cleaner and with lesser noise. Although the diagram confirms to be the same but is not the fact and the case indeed.
Of course the information and the data source you shared is defending an important argument. I agree it has a value of a news to share.
But in the same way, such individual tests that we could make at home should also confirm and prove the argument issued.
Above are my tests and my realities vs the website's information.
On the other side if it was really correct, why would manufacturer NIKON give the options between ISO 500 to1600 as there would be more noise than ISO400. They would immediatly jump from ISO400 to 2000 in the settings. That would make sense.
I can not blame the website for the other cameras. But Z9 is the highest available top level series of NIKON. It is extremely important and I respect you did right to share. If possible in your convenience, I would definitely respect to your tests to compare and share with us if possible. To be honest it took me only half an hour to put things together and compare.
I am taking all the information you are sharing extremely important and serious. So grateful that you are sharing and posting all.
All the best.
Thank you once again Scott.
Hi Mustafa. I really doubt that the website is wrong. The Nikon Z9 has been out a long time now and if the results were wrong someone would have spotted it before. There was another person who claimed the results were wrong (you can find their comments elsewhere on this video) and I spent a long time helping them. It turned out the website was right all along. You can also search online for something like "Nikon Z9 dual gain" and they will all confirm that the switch in noise performance happens at ISO 500. I've just done this and there are countless websites that confirm the results are correct, but none that confirm your results are correct. The most likely explanation for your results is that you have something switched on in your camera that is affecting the results. You might have in-camera noise reduction switched on - this would definitely affect the results. Dynamic range optimisation (or D-Range, or DRO) also needs to be off. Basically switch off anything that does anything automatically in your camera as it may affect the results. Even then, I'm not sure what the specification is for photos that can be used to test this. You would need to ask the guy who runs the photons to photos website. Sorry, I can't carry out the tests that you've asked for at the moment - I'm really busy at the moment, but I hope this response helps.
Just wanted you to know, your video is the first video that provided step by step instructions, that made sense for me in dealing with noise in my photos. I really appreciate you sharing you knowledge on this. It will make a world of different in my photo editing process and the quality of my photos going forward.
Hi Bernie. I'm happy I could be helpful. Thanks for watching.
Wow, this is a ‘must watch’ for every digital photographer; there’s so much misconceptions that you’ve cleared up in this one video. Thanks for sharing👍🏼👍🏼 Subbed😄
Hi Philip. I'm pleased it is helpful. Thanks for watching.
You got to love videos explaining the science behind it, till today i never figured out how the noise reduction in lightroom worked and would just apply sharpness and masking without the color noise and luminence noise reduction. And even if i applied i didn't know how much to apply. I have just gotten into wildlife photography and this video just solves so much of the problems that arise with high iso imaging. simple and greatly done! thank you!
Happy to help. Thanks for watching.
This was the most amazing presentation. I've been working with Topaz DeNoise a lot, but your masking approach is so superior and makes so much sense. You are my new, favorite youtuber....I will be following your work very closely in the future!
Wow, that's very kind, thank you Thomas. And thanks for watching.
1st UA-cam Photographer I have found that I would actually join in a Patron Subscription. Fantastic work.
Wow, that's awesome. Thanks for your comment and for watching.
A long video, Scott, but I stayed with it and pleased I did. Just started using a Z9 and I had already learned about it’s ISO invariance and so now avoid ISO levels between 100 and 500. 500 is my default unless I’m doing landscapes with a tripod. Not every image is worth the time you put into the kingfisher shot but the photoshop technique is very interesting and one day I’ll give it a try! I have LR, PS and Denoise so your advice is very helpful. Many thanks.
Thanks Geoff. Yes, I wouldn't want to use the payers method for every photo. But it has saved me from having to discard photos quite a few times. So it's a good technique to have in your back pocket. Thanks for watching.
Perfect combination of knowledge, experience, skill, patience, and creative problem solving. You know your tools as well as we all should aspire to. Thank you.
Happy to help. Thanks for watching.
Most of the time noise is not as big of an issue as over exposed areas and lack of dynamic range in digital image files. Contrary to SLR cameras using film, DSLR cameras picks up details in darker areas better than brightly lit areas so I always shoot at -0.5 stop; slightly under-exposed. While this leads to slightly noisier photos, it also gives the added benefit of slightly shorter shutter times and hopefully sharper images as all my shots are handheld of things that move.
I think some noise in images are fine, its part of the art. All the images in this video are totally fine without noise reduction, and you could probably produce fairly large prints from them and nobody would care about the existing noise. And thats the key: those you share them with enjoys your art without worrying about technical stuff. You, the photographer may perceive problems with the noise, but for everybody else it is a non-issue until you really cant make out anything. Life is too short to eradicate all noise in photos . This video shows some really great methods to reduce a lot of noise, but for most images, blown out areas leaves you nothing to work with. Where these methods may really come into play are if you are trying to resurrect old photos; digital photos from the 90s or 35mm film scans etc. You'd be surprised how noisy or rather grainy 100ISO film was, even when perfectly exposed.
Hi Peter, I've no issues with that. Noise is matter of personal taste. In fact, I notice a lot of the youngsters adding in noise and grain artificially to try and replicate the film look. Personally I like to reduce as much of the noise as I can. It's not about other people's perceptions of my photos - it's just my personal preference. Each to their own, and I totally respect if you like to have some noise in your images. Thanks for watching.
I was ready to skip the first section thinking that I knew everything I needed to know about ISO, but I'm so glad I stuck around. I learned about the specifics of my camera's noise levels and realized that my prior assumptions were all wrong. Thanks so much!
I'm glad you stuck around and found it useful. Thanks for watching.
Your method of teaching works brilliantly for me. I've always needed to know how and why and sometimes experts speed through the details or skip the why. I will watch this over and over until I get it committed to memory. Thanks!
Thank you so much. I'm glad its useful. Thanks for your lovely comment and for watching.
Mate, this is the first video I've watched about ISO and noise reduction since videography is more my niche, but man this left me in awe. Thank you for sharing this here, you trully are a legend!
Awesome, I'm pleased it is helpful. Thanks for watching.
My noise removal work flow will forever more be changed after this. Thank you
Hi Konrad. Glad it helped. Thank you for watching.
Briilaint! I've used lightroom for years now and couldnt grasp the noise reduction filters. Now I'm so glad I've found this vlog! Thank you
Hi Micky. I'm glad you found it useful, thanks for watching.
Properly explained, I wish I knew this before I had edited 1300 photos from my honeymoon to Africa. Even just understanding the details of denoise an sharpening in lightroom at this level of detail is a game changer on its own. Congratulations, best video on noise reduction
Wow, thank you. I'm so happy to hear that and glad I can be of help. I hope it wasn't too painful editing all those photos, but I bet you got some amazing photos and memories. Congratulations on your wedding. Thanks for watching.
This is one of the gems you can find in YT. Appreciate the time and effort in sharing your secret sauce to us! A master class indeed ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Thank you very much. Glad to be of help. Thanks for watching.
GREAT INFO about ISO misconceptions! I'm a firm believer in pumping up my ISO when needed, to avoid getting a BLURRY photo....THANKS FOR THIS VIDEO!
Absolutely. Better a noisy and sharp image (which can be dealt with) than a soft and clean one. Thanks for watching.
If you were one of my school teachers back in the day, I would have enjoyed going to school and definitely would have learned a lot more.
Without doubt the best noise video I've ever seen. Thank you sir.
That's very kind of you to say. Thanks for watching.
All I have to say is WOW! One of the best explanations of iso and how to clean it up. I've been doing photography as a hobby for the past 25 years and you've just made my day! Taking the Z9 out for birding in a few hrs and will have to try your method for cleaning up some of those dirty pics. Thank You.
Hi Daniel. Excellent. I'm happy to help and I hope you're getting some great photos with that Z9. Thanks for watching.
This is yet the best workshp on nr reduction and sharpening I have seen in years! Thank you for sharing.
Hi Gunnar. Much appreciated. Thank you for watching.
Finally I can understand how to use the noise reduction function in Ligthroo. Thanks a lot, my friend!
Hi Christiano. Glad to hear it's helpful. Thanks for watching.
This video is so good...I'm blown away. I love the Photons to Photos website as well as your sharpening technique.
Hi Christina, thank you so much. I'm happy to help. Thanks for watching.
For a beginner to editing like myself, this video gives me the knowledge and confidence to attack my noisiest images. Thank you so much!
Hi Patrick. Happy to help. Thanks for watching.
Not gonna lie, he got us in the very first half. Gem of a video it is🔥🔥🔥🔥
Hi Saikat. Happy to help. Thanks for watching.
One of the best tutorials I've ever watched. Thank you for this.
My pleasure. Thanks for watching.
thank you so much for this, it makes so much sense, will be going through my bird images that have been avoided.
Hi Marisa. Happy to help. I hope you find you can now make use of some more of your images now. Thanks for watching.
This is the best tutorial I have seen for this. It is easy to understand. Thank you.
Happy to help. Thanks for watching.
Probably one of the best video regarding how to deal with noise ! Today YT gave me a really great recommandation, subbed !
Hi. Glad it was useful and welcome to the channel. Thanks for subbing and for watching.
@Walks on The Wild Side You just get new Subscriber no more fears to used ISO button . Hard to believe that everything can be explained so clearly and comprehensibly in such a short time Thank you so much.
Hi Voldemaras. That's awesome, I'm pleased it's helpful. Thanks for subscribing and watching.
YT recommended your video to me, 6+ videos later, I gotta tell you, your information, practical applications & on-location shoots are jam-packed with gems! Seriously, I've learned so much! New Sub! 🤙🏾
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I congratulate you for putting a wonderful tutorial up for everyone to learn from. Fascinating stuff about dual ISO's Noise reduction/sharpness etc. etc. Happy I found your channel!!!!
Hi Jerry. Awesome, I'm pleased it is helpful. Thanks for watching.
best explanation in human language I've seen thank you very much
I'm glad you found it useful, thanks for watching.
Superb video!
I now know the best ISO marks for all my cameras and a “I can’t believe I didn’t think of that” method for in-depth noise reduction!
Thank you! 👍
Hi Hamish. I'm glad you found it useful, thanks for watching.
VERY helpful tips! I can't believe how much my quality has improved
Happy to help. Thanks for watching.
Can I say, "I love you, Man" without getting too personal? At 1minute in, I said "thank the lord". Reason: I'm an amateur photographer that hasn't been shooting more than a few years. After the first year, I did a ton of reading (and still do). I could tell people more about OSPDAF systems then they care to hear. I've heard far too many professional photographers (with UA-cam Channels) who will frequently state that ISO is part of the exposure triangle - and as you say - that turning up ISO increases your camera's /sensor's sensitivity to light - which it absolutely does not. Now before I sound like I don't understand the point they are making, I do. One even told me "I do it just to keep things simple and not confuse people". Sheesh. So thank you for keeping it real, even for those that fail to understand. You can turn up the volume of sound (after recording) increases the gain (noise) of music as well....but some how in photography's digital age, this basic fact of ISO increasing gain / noise of light that has already been recorded (based solely on transmissibility of light through the lens and shutter speed seems to be elusive for many. Thank you. Your explanation is much appreciated. Well done! (Just an aside: I do believe back in the film days it was technically called ISO, but ASA - different standards governing body, but the point your making is spot on). Brilliant break down and the best video I've seen on the subject. I'm now a big fan! ...and now that I completed watching the video, You, my friend, totally ROCK!
Thanks so much. I really appreciate it. I just believe that anyone who creates content with an aim to educate has a duty to make it understandable, not to alter the meaning. So, sometimes that means my videos are a bit longer than others, but I hope they are more helpful. So I'm going to send some love back and say thanks for watching - it's people like yourself who make this worthwhile.
@@WalksOnTheWildSide Thank you as well, and just FYI, I've sent your video to several photographers as a "IF YOU DO NOTHING ELSE, THIS IS A MUST WATCH". I did think up a few topics that might make future videos (you are so good at breaking things down) - including does "Compression" of longer focal lengths really exist or why in APSC cameras, you have to factor in the "crop" factor to focal length and aperture. A concept that seems to elude many. I'll try and write some down for consideration. Thank you again. It was an excellent video and well worth the time and the watch.
This is the best tutorial I’ve watched ever. Thank you so much!
I'm glad you found it useful, thanks for watching.
Brilliant - best exposition on noise and it's reduction that I've seen. Thank you.
I'm glad you enjoyed it, thanks for watching.
Single best video about noise I've seen! Fantastic
Hi Caleb. Thank you very much, glad you found it useful.
Very useful. One of the best videos I've watched on processing ISO images.
Hi Paul. Happy to help. Thanks for watching.
This might be the most useful and helpful youtube photography tutorial I've seen.
Thank you
Hi Valedmar. Glad it was helpful. Thank you for watching.
Thank you! This is the best and most comprehensive video on noise reduction I've ever seen, a coffee for you, mate!
Thank you very much for the super thanks. And it will definitely be spent on a coffee. I'm glad you found the video useful.
Best noise explanation video and noise editing explanation video so far on UA-cam! Thank you
Glad it was useful and thanks for watching.
This is the best in-depth video on this subject I've seen, thanks for taking the time to do this so well.
I'm glad you found it useful, thanks for watching.
Excellent tutorial, many thanks. The ultimate noise reduction explanation and comparison. It seems that DeNoise is best for speed and ease, the Photoshop layers the ultimate result.
Happy to help. Thanks for watching.
This is a most interesting tutorial, and I have put into practise and now see the difference. One never stops learning!
Hi Linden. I'm glad you found it useful, thanks for watching.
Somehow insanely intricate and detailed tutorial, and yet feels like you explained it well enough a child could do it. Saving this one for sure.
Hi Wyatt. I'm glad you found it useful, thanks for watching.
Wow! Best explanation about Noise/ISO in-variance I have come across so far :) Thank you Sir!
I'm glad you enjoyed it, thanks for watching.
You gave me at least three tips/ideas for noise reduction and sharpening. I never, never thought of using Nikon NX to do pre-post work before doing final post in Topaz tools or Affinity photo. Thank you. Great information.
Happy to help. Thanks for watching.
When I clicked on this videos, I wasn't sure what to expect, but this is such a GOOD video and really helps understanding noise. Thank you so much for this!
Hi David Wow, thank you. I'm happy to hear that and glad I can be of help. Thanks for watching.
The absolute best noise-related video on the internet. Many thanks! Liked and Subscribed.
Awesome, I'm pleased it's helpful. Thanks for subscribing and watching.
Your video has been super helpful. I did not know that numerous base ISOs exist. Also, I now further understand how to use the unsharp mask and reducing noise features in lightroom. I'm so glad I came upon your video!
Scott, your video is a masterclass! Your way of explaining things works so well for me - exactly the level of detail I need. I admire your skill in photography, and communication.
Hi. Awesome, I'm pleased it is helpful. Thanks for watching.
Great video and so well explained...I have learned more about noise managing here than I have ever had. Thank you...
Happy to help. Thanks for watching.
This is by far the best video i've seen on noise and sharpening. Thanks for taking the time to explain it all!
Wow, thank you Adam. I'm happy to hear that and glad I can be of help. Thanks for watching.
i have learned more in 37 mins watching this than i have youtubeing for the last year liked and subscribed
Awesome, welcome to the channel. Thanks for subscribing and watching.
Gotta love the YT algorithm, it normally pushes meh at me but once in a while you get a real gem, subbed.
Hi Neil. Awesome, welcome to the channel. Thanks for watching and subbing.
This video should be declared as Bible of Noise reduction. Very simple way viewers understood which shows the great effort you put and the knowledge you gained all the years.. keep up amazing work . Great tutorial i ever watched 😍
Wow, thank you. I'm so happy to read your nice comment and glad I can be of help. Thanks for watching.
So much wonderful, detailed, and clear information! I've been a full time professional photographer for 13 years and this taught me so much! Thank you!
Hi Shawna. Thank you very much. I had a look at your website, nice work. I especially liked the baby asleep at a mini-desk - so cute. Thanks for your comment and for watching.
@@WalksOnTheWildSide I don't have that in my work lol. I'm LotusFly Photography. But thank you anyway!
Sorry, I must have found another Shawna Marie.
An excellent tutorial on noise reduction and the best I have seen. Thank you!
All good things come to people who are prepared to put the effort in. Absolutely the best noise reduction vid on You tube I have ever seen, Brilliant can’t wait to try. Thanks for sharing
Hi Ken. I'm glad you found it useful, thanks for watching.
I've worked on noise for years - and am pretty decent - but this video is the best I have seen. Very well done
Excellent. Thank you so much for your lovely comment, and thanks for watching.
this changes everything for me. I’ve never really thought about sharpness before, embarassingly enough. I was wondering what I’m missing to take my photography to the next level.
No worries. Lots of people have never been told about think link between sharpness and denoise. I remember it blowing my mind when I found out. But once you know, it is a bit of a game changer.
When i spent the first 8 minutes, I realized how good your video. This is amazing. ❤
Thank you so much 😀Glad you liked it.
I don't know if I could ever be so fastidious with processing my photos as the Photoshop mask method but now at least I know what I could do if I were be patient enough. This has been the best lesson of noise reduction in the known universe. Thank you Scott.
Hi Tad. I definitely wouldn't want to do it for every photo. Just the ones that really need it. I'm glad you found it useful, and thanks for watching.
One of the best tutorials if not best...
Wow, thank you. I'm so happy to hear that and glad I can be of help. Thanks for watching.
Absolutely the best photo editing video on UA-cam Thanks for that amazing tutorial !
Hi Harold. Very kind of you to say that. I'm glad the video was useful and thanks for watching.
Wow this is such a good explanation and it tough me so much. The pacing of the video is great, never boring and never so that I couldn't keep up...
Wow, thank you. I'm so happy to hear that and glad I can be of help. Thanks for watching.
Hi Scott, You have opened my eyes - was banging in a preset of Noise oly & ignoring colour and sharpness pretty much. You just gave me so many better pictures - thank yiou!
My pleasure Simon. Thank you for watching.
Wow! What great content. I have struggle with this issue and you showed the way to fix a high noise probelm so simply. Thank you!
I'm glad you found it useful, thanks for watching.
Great and detailed explanation on noise. Thankyou for taking your time to do this vid.
My pleasure, thanks for watching.
Wonderful tutorial! I really appreciate your sharing your post-editing process. Very helpful. Thanks!
Mi Mark. I'm glad you enjoyed it, thanks for watching.