The intro is based on a bit of classical music - "Mars, God of War" I think...so nobody ripped off anybody, but this track was released at least a year earlier than Sabbath.
True. A lot of rock artists and bands of every genre and every era used phrasings from classical music. Way too many times to count. I wonder how people would compare this to rap and sampling.
@@jimsmith9753 The moment you hear music in your life, you are already influenced. No matter how hard you try to sound "original", your subconscious mind will always give you ideas which is the result of all the songs that you have heard in your lifetime.
John Cann, one of the world's greatest guitarists, with Atomic Rooster, and Hard Stuff too, seek out Time Gambler for one of the best songs musically and lyrically ever made, RIP one of my all time heros.
+Keith Gordon So underrated. He was in The Attack too, if you haven't already check them out one insanely underrated band from the late 60s. One of my favourite bands ever and heavy too.
Time Gambler was my fav Hard Stuff track, just superb in every way musically and lyrically "You don't need the friends that you have"....The guitar is so good, it is almost like it is talking to you. I have the script 'Time Gambler' tattooed under my chin.
I was pleased to hear this incredible band in mid-October or November 1969 in a memorable show that still had fat matress and the band andwellas dream.
There's an appeal pending for me 'bout my returning to sanity I hope this time it goes through If it don't there's nothing left to do For me just to live an existence And not need any assistance Would mean everything to me All I want is just to be free I know if they just set me free I'd do everything that's wanted of me I know if they just let me go I would live my life on my own I can't carry my hopes anymore So please tell me what plans are in store Being here only makes me feel low So please free my life and let me go For me just to live an existence And not need any assistance Would mean everything to me All I want is just to be free I know if they just set me free I'd do everything that's wanted of me I know if they just let me go I would live my life on my own
The sound of this record reminds me of Pink Floyd's, Instellar Overdrive as it builds to a Crescendo and takes yr mind to a place it has never been to before. I wonder if they were influenced by Pink Floyd or whether or not Pink Floyd was influenced by them. p.savage
The riff at the very end is also similar to another song by Holst from the planet suits "jupiter bringer of joy" i guess they wanted to end on a happy note
"Mars, the bringer of war" was a track from Gustav Holst. And a great Death Metal Band called "Nile" took that intro in the track "Ramses Bringer of War", too.
@squarepyramid99 yes the intro is based on one from the songs from "The Planets" by Gustav Holst, if it's the song Mars more specifically i am not sure, but it is from one of those songs
While many rock and metal bands used Mars as a source of influence, I think the Diamond Head track might be influenced by the adaptation by Writing On The Wall in their Shadow Of Man. Both share quirks that aren't in the original.
@ianmatthewmcknight7 Im one of those people....how r bands like these not at least as famous as sabbath if not more....world is unjust!!!!..tho if it were maybe i wouldnt get such a soulful tune as this
The timeline of the Mars riff is something like: Sep 1918 - Adrian Boult conducts **Holst's Mars, Bringer of War Jul 1953 - The Quatermass Experiment miniseries premieres, with Mars as its theme song, is huge hit with young boys Jun 1965 - Bowie's (an explicit Quatermass fan) project The Lower Third closes their shows with a guitar rendition of Mars, no recordings exist Sep 1967 - Sands uses an electric guitar Mars for half of their anti-war Listen to the Sky Sep 1967 - Family uses a very short bit of Mars for Scene Through the Eye of a Lens Mar 1968 - The Attack is dropped by their label and doesn't complete their album Roman God of War May 1968 - Deep Purple record a version of Hendrix's 'Hey Joe' that opens with guitar over very Mars-like drumming. Oct 1968 - ex-The Attack member John Cann's Andromeda repurposes unused songs, including the Mars-based Return to Sanity for John Peel Nov 1968 - John Peel broadcasts Return to Sanity, and Andromeda records a full album including even more of Mars, but album is not released (though you can find the demos now). Nov 1968 - Scottish band Writing on the Wall records the heavily Mars-based Shadow of Man for John Peel Nov 1968 - ex-Sands members record pop album with Deep Purple - does their Listen to the Sky come up? Dec 1968 - John Peel broadcasts Shadow of Man Apr 1969 - British government honours Holst conductor Boult's 80th birthday to much fanfare Jun 1969 - Andromeda re-records album with Return to Sanity Jul 1969 - King Crimson opens for a massive Rolling Stones show and closes with a thunderous guitar version of Mars, possibly played at earlier shows? Aug 1969 - Black Sabbath (last show as Earth) plays Black Sabbath, a deconstruction of Mars Aug 1969 - Deep Purple performs Child in Time, which has a notable passage from Mars. Sep 1969 - Deep Purple records a symphonic version of Child in Time* Sep 1969 - Andromeda finally releases Return to Sanity Oct 1969 - Black Sabbath records Black Sabbath Oct 1969 - Writing on the Wall releases the album with Shadow of Man Apr 1970 - King Crimson release a deconstructed Mars as The Devil's Triangle Jun 1970 - Deep Purple release studio album with Child in Time Mar 1972 - Jerusalem release Hooded Eagle, produced by Ian Gillan from Deep Purple, which utilizes the Mars riff. Jul 1979 - former Deep-Purple guitarist Ritchie's Blackmore's Rainbow opens their Eyes of the World track with Mars. Mar 1980 - Diamond Head record Am I Evil, heavily drawing on the Mars riff. Mar 1982 - Metallica begin playing Am I Evil (and then you've also got Triumph in 1977, Dead Kennedys in 1980, King Diamond in 1982, Savatage in 1987, Nile in 1996, Symphony X in 1997, Bathory in 2001, Gorgoroth in 2002, Judas Priest finally gets around to it 2008 and I'm sure there's more, much less all the songs influenced by it that didn't know what they were riffing on.)
@@Frodojack My wife went on a work trip for 2 weeks and I was stuck in the house with our ill old dog and so I became obsessed with tracking down the origins of why all the big proto-metal bands played some version of Mars within 3 months of each other, so it was a lot of digging through old online posts and interviews. I don't think there's a single answer, but a confluence of events (The Moody Blues having a hit recording with an orchestra in 1967 putting rock+classical in the spotlight, a bunch of young men who grew up on Quatermass all coming of age to get record deals around the same time, and John Peel loving how Mars sounded on rock instruments and pushing people to record it so he could repeatedly play it on his show (which all these other bands were surely listening to). Not to grandstand too much about it, but I think there's an argument here to be made that this is shared idea that all of Metal came out of: a dark, dramatic, song about the cosmos, gods, and war.
@@GorgonautAnimation I do a bit of historical sleuthing myself, which is why your post interested me so much. What was the first heavy metal song? What were the influences on the first generation of metal and hard rock? For me, the first metal song was either "Summertime Blues" by Blue Cheer, or "Born to Be Wild" by Steppenwolf. Interestingly, the biggest immediate influences were "Communication Breakdown" by Led Zeppelin (which in itself could be considered early metal) and Vanilla Fudge. I think Holst added an element of a horror sound, a spooky and creepy sound, made scarier with a tritone. Of course Jimi Hendrix used a tritone on "Purple Haze," and Blue Cheer was most influenced by Hendrix. I mentioned the influence of "Communication Breakdown" earlier - this is the song that led Deep Purple to change their sound in 1970. On Black Sabbath's second album from the same year it featured "Paranoid," which Tony Iommi had to create on the spot. When he played it to Ozzy, Ozzy thought it sounded too much like "Communication Breakdown." Then a few years later when the Ramones were looking for inspiration, it came from "Communication Breakdown." So it all comes together.
@ysfawolfpack you hear "Mars, God of War" by Gustav Holst, on guitar and bass. And more than that... it's Diamond Head's "Am I Evil". Metallica just did a cover of it.
Any native english speaker could post the complete lyrics of this masterpiece? I'm not english speaker and i cant neither find the lyrics on the internet. Thanks!
Yeah I know. Old musicians borrow from other musicians they like. Been that way since the end of time, Was that way when classical music was being put out. The real inportant thing is that the music inspired other people to write some good music too. Maybe even better than what they were copying...
Although it is Holst, Black Sabbath did support Andromeda around this time (Black Sabbath were just starting out) and so they may well have been influenced by this... Both great tracks though
I couldn't find a date of them playing together back in the Earth/Polka Tulk days, only a gig together on March 18, 1970 at The Cosmo in London, which is after Sabbath's version of Holst, but I'd love to know if there's info about earlier shows together!
@@GuerssenRecords Yeah, but the only record I can find of that is from March 1970, after Sabbath's version of Holst. This song was on the radio, though, as were several other songs that used this Holst riff between this coming out and Sabbath's take (and Deep Purple and King Crimson had both been playing it earlier in the same summer before Sabbath). Would love to find evidence of a 1969 show with pre-Sabbath Earth and Andromeda playing together, though!
Hu hu hu... Without this Andromeda your name stealing "Andromeda" wouldn't make the music they make today and would probably have a different name.. And no one pwns anyone.
Gustav Holst.
The original metalhead.
that would be bach, but hes on it too
@@123-p1n4i You could easily tell that the first part of the song sounds like Holst's Mars.
The intro is based on a bit of classical music - "Mars, God of War" I think...so nobody ripped off anybody, but this track was released at least a year earlier than Sabbath.
True. A lot of rock artists and bands of every genre and every era used phrasings from classical music. Way too many times to count. I wonder how people would compare this to rap and sampling.
@@jimsmith9753 The moment you hear music in your life, you are already influenced. No matter how hard you try to sound "original", your subconscious mind will always give you ideas which is the result of all the songs that you have heard in your lifetime.
@@flowerDance2112 mostly it’s because Holtz’s planets were the introduction to classical music in the English schools at the time
The intro is also similar to ”Am I Evil?” Diamond Head 1980: ua-cam.com/video/WlfS-oakUxM/v-deo.htmlsi=QauqNIP4WUnYA6rS
I think the ship levels in Super Mario 3 must have been inspired by the same piece
John Cann, one of the world's greatest guitarists, with Atomic Rooster, and Hard Stuff too, seek out Time Gambler for one of the best songs musically and lyrically ever made, RIP one of my all time heros.
+Keith Gordon So underrated. He was in The Attack too, if you haven't already check them out one insanely underrated band from the late 60s. One of my favourite bands ever and heavy too.
I love time gambler from that first Hard stuff album. Some mean guitar work from John Du Cann on that.
Time Gambler was my fav Hard Stuff track, just superb in every way musically and lyrically "You don't need the friends that you have"....The guitar is so good, it is almost like it is talking to you. I have the script 'Time Gambler' tattooed under my chin.
monster in paradise did it for me. love that song.
John Cann wasn't remotely 'One Of The World's Greatest Guitarist's'!! This statement is beyond stupid!
Its a (borrowed) intro from Gustav Holst's Planet Suite ( Mars, The Bringer of War) ....& indeed an awesome track! Great band in its day!
It’s obviously inspired by Holst’s Planets
Malcolm Thompson ... Those were my thoughts exactly.
Metallica borrowed it too.
I was pleased to hear this incredible band in mid-October or November 1969 in a memorable show that still had fat matress and the band andwellas dream.
Rock 70s Andromeda were one of the great 'support acts' of the period!
wow amazing!!!! Noel Redding's band!!
No waaaay, tell me more about it!!!!! Cheers from Brasil!
..... Some part is recalled me of Rainbow's Temple of the king.
There's an appeal pending for me
'bout my returning to sanity
I hope this time it goes through
If it don't there's nothing left to do
For me just to live an existence
And not need any assistance
Would mean everything to me
All I want is just to be free
I know if they just set me free
I'd do everything that's wanted of me
I know if they just let me go
I would live my life on my own
I can't carry my hopes anymore
So please tell me what plans are in store
Being here only makes me feel low
So please free my life and let me go
For me just to live an existence
And not need any assistance
Would mean everything to me
All I want is just to be free
I know if they just set me free
I'd do everything that's wanted of me
I know if they just let me go
I would live my life on my own
Thank U, man
You the MVP.
Me and my father have been trying to decipher the lyrics of this band's songs for quite some time. You did impressive!
RIP John Du Cann, your music remains to inspire us all
wow, what an AMAAAZING and truly underrated band.
this is when youtube is amazing, bringing brilliant music such as this.
I love the bends that bass plays during the verses. Awesome band.
Beastly! Beautiful! Magical!
Thanks for posting...one of the great UK bands. John DuCann (also The Attack, Atomic Rooster, Hard Stuff) is my favorite guitarist of the period.
One of my favourite guitar solos, John Du Cann could sure play.
I dig the Holst into and outro!
The sound of this record reminds me of Pink Floyd's, Instellar Overdrive as it builds to a Crescendo and takes yr mind to a place it has never been to before. I wonder if they were influenced by Pink Floyd or whether or not Pink Floyd was influenced by them.
p.savage
very good........................................................
Que genial canción, siempre que echo caca la escucho. Porque me relaja y puedo echar caca tranquilo y en paz. 👍👍
The riff at the very end is also similar to another song by Holst from the planet suits "jupiter bringer of joy" i guess they wanted to end on a happy note
one of my favorite songs :)
"Mars, the bringer of war" was a track from Gustav Holst. And a great Death Metal Band called "Nile" took that intro in the track "Ramses Bringer of War", too.
cool song...nice riffs......un-cluttered......
a grand Band!
The cover and the music is a good company.
Great track!
Yes, please!
Excellent song!!!
I think I saw them either at Chatham Tech.college or Maidstone,my memory is a bit fuzzy when I think back to those days!!
Keg
@squarepyramid99 yes the intro is based on one from the songs from "The Planets" by Gustav Holst, if it's the song Mars more specifically i am not sure, but it is from one of those songs
Just Great
@hardstuff72 10000000% agreed. the man was a genius
is the intro evil ? it is man , yes it is ! (diamond head actually "borrowed" an awesome intro from andromeda)
Gustav Holst - The Planets, Op. 32: I. Mars, the Bringer of War
I was thinking the same thing. Am I Evil.
While many rock and metal bands used Mars as a source of influence, I think the Diamond Head track might be influenced by the adaptation by Writing On The Wall in their Shadow Of Man. Both share quirks that aren't in the original.
@@elhekoyya Diamond Head is 100% pulling from Shadow of Man
We have the original LP. Real good album.
that's a valuable piece of vinyl
What is the release date?
@ianmatthewmcknight7 Im one of those people....how r bands like these not at least as famous as sabbath if not more....world is unjust!!!!..tho if it were maybe i wouldnt get such a soulful tune as this
OG Vietnam Classic 🙏☮☯👻👻👻
A game from Sega M1 Abrams had the intro of the song
+El Edgard y Nieves do you remember the name?
M1 Abrams...
I m sorry I didn t know I don t carry no hope anymore set me free let me go
The timeline of the Mars riff is something like:
Sep 1918 - Adrian Boult conducts **Holst's Mars, Bringer of War
Jul 1953 - The Quatermass Experiment miniseries premieres, with Mars as its theme song, is huge hit with young boys
Jun 1965 - Bowie's (an explicit Quatermass fan) project The Lower Third closes their shows with a guitar rendition of Mars, no recordings exist
Sep 1967 - Sands uses an electric guitar Mars for half of their anti-war Listen to the Sky
Sep 1967 - Family uses a very short bit of Mars for Scene Through the Eye of a Lens
Mar 1968 - The Attack is dropped by their label and doesn't complete their album Roman God of War
May 1968 - Deep Purple record a version of Hendrix's 'Hey Joe' that opens with guitar over very Mars-like drumming.
Oct 1968 - ex-The Attack member John Cann's Andromeda repurposes unused songs, including the Mars-based Return to Sanity for John Peel
Nov 1968 - John Peel broadcasts Return to Sanity, and Andromeda records a full album including even more of Mars, but album is not released (though you can find the demos now).
Nov 1968 - Scottish band Writing on the Wall records the heavily Mars-based Shadow of Man for John Peel
Nov 1968 - ex-Sands members record pop album with Deep Purple - does their Listen to the Sky come up?
Dec 1968 - John Peel broadcasts Shadow of Man
Apr 1969 - British government honours Holst conductor Boult's 80th birthday to much fanfare
Jun 1969 - Andromeda re-records album with Return to Sanity
Jul 1969 - King Crimson opens for a massive Rolling Stones show and closes with a thunderous guitar version of Mars, possibly played at earlier shows?
Aug 1969 - Black Sabbath (last show as Earth) plays Black Sabbath, a deconstruction of Mars
Aug 1969 - Deep Purple performs Child in Time, which has a notable passage from Mars.
Sep 1969 - Deep Purple records a symphonic version of Child in Time*
Sep 1969 - Andromeda finally releases Return to Sanity
Oct 1969 - Black Sabbath records Black Sabbath
Oct 1969 - Writing on the Wall releases the album with Shadow of Man
Apr 1970 - King Crimson release a deconstructed Mars as The Devil's Triangle
Jun 1970 - Deep Purple release studio album with Child in Time
Mar 1972 - Jerusalem release Hooded Eagle, produced by Ian Gillan from Deep Purple, which utilizes the Mars riff.
Jul 1979 - former Deep-Purple guitarist Ritchie's Blackmore's Rainbow opens their Eyes of the World track with Mars.
Mar 1980 - Diamond Head record Am I Evil, heavily drawing on the Mars riff.
Mar 1982 - Metallica begin playing Am I Evil
(and then you've also got Triumph in 1977, Dead Kennedys in 1980, King Diamond in 1982, Savatage in 1987, Nile in 1996, Symphony X in 1997, Bathory in 2001, Gorgoroth in 2002, Judas Priest finally gets around to it 2008 and I'm sure there's more, much less all the songs influenced by it that didn't know what they were riffing on.)
Wow. Impressive. Where did you find all this detailed information?
@@Frodojack My wife went on a work trip for 2 weeks and I was stuck in the house with our ill old dog and so I became obsessed with tracking down the origins of why all the big proto-metal bands played some version of Mars within 3 months of each other, so it was a lot of digging through old online posts and interviews. I don't think there's a single answer, but a confluence of events (The Moody Blues having a hit recording with an orchestra in 1967 putting rock+classical in the spotlight, a bunch of young men who grew up on Quatermass all coming of age to get record deals around the same time, and John Peel loving how Mars sounded on rock instruments and pushing people to record it so he could repeatedly play it on his show (which all these other bands were surely listening to). Not to grandstand too much about it, but I think there's an argument here to be made that this is shared idea that all of Metal came out of: a dark, dramatic, song about the cosmos, gods, and war.
@@GorgonautAnimation I do a bit of historical sleuthing myself, which is why your post interested me so much. What was the first heavy metal song? What were the influences on the first generation of metal and hard rock? For me, the first metal song was either "Summertime Blues" by Blue Cheer, or "Born to Be Wild" by Steppenwolf. Interestingly, the biggest immediate influences were "Communication Breakdown" by Led Zeppelin (which in itself could be considered early metal) and Vanilla Fudge. I think Holst added an element of a horror sound, a spooky and creepy sound, made scarier with a tritone. Of course Jimi Hendrix used a tritone on "Purple Haze," and Blue Cheer was most influenced by Hendrix.
I mentioned the influence of "Communication Breakdown" earlier - this is the song that led Deep Purple to change their sound in 1970. On Black Sabbath's second album from the same year it featured "Paranoid," which Tony Iommi had to create on the spot. When he played it to Ozzy, Ozzy thought it sounded too much like "Communication Breakdown." Then a few years later when the Ramones were looking for inspiration, it came from "Communication Breakdown." So it all comes together.
@sybnios ER I think you mean Diamond Head. Saw them in the early eighties, just another NWOBHM band doing the circuits.
@ysfawolfpack you hear "Mars, God of War" by Gustav Holst, on guitar and bass. And more than that... it's Diamond Head's "Am I Evil". Metallica just did a cover of it.
writting on the wall - shadow of man
Any native english speaker could post the complete lyrics of this masterpiece? I'm not english speaker and i cant neither find the lyrics on the internet. Thanks!
It also sounds like Diamond Head's song "Am I Evil?"
Does anyone know the name of that painting?
The intro is am i evil from diamond head
This came 11 years before diamond head
Faarr Outt Man! -u-
♡♡♡♡♡♡♡♡♡♡♡
OMG Diamond Head totally ripped this off for the opening riff in Am I Evil lololol
Pay homage to a band that nobody knows and give them no credit. Hmmm...
Yeah I know. Old musicians borrow from other musicians they like. Been that way since the end of time, Was that way when classical music was being put out. The real inportant thing is that the music inspired other people to write some good music too. Maybe even better than what they were copying...
Yeah I totally agree. I often think that RUSH was a copy/cat of Budgie bwahahahaha
The opening is from Gustav Holst- MARS
Although it is Holst, Black Sabbath did support Andromeda around this time (Black Sabbath were just starting out) and so they may well have been influenced by this...
Both great tracks though
I couldn't find a date of them playing together back in the Earth/Polka Tulk days, only a gig together on March 18, 1970 at The Cosmo in London, which is after Sabbath's version of Holst, but I'd love to know if there's info about earlier shows together!
"THE ROULETTE REGIME WAS HERE"
*Am I Evil!!!* Oh wait wrong song hahahaha
Love gun...oh wait
1. Not funny
2. Gustav Holst - The Planets, Op. 32: I. Mars, the Bringer of War
anyone has the lyrics? if they do please let me know.
BOLERO .....
jesus.
diamond head am i evil!
Oh, yes, Ravel's Bolero
also a bit like bolero.
the intro is not from diamondhead
diamondhead 'stole' it from andromeda
doesnt really matter
but still
+kvhamondLH both andromeda and diamondhead stole the intro from Gustav Holst "Mars"
yeah I discovered his composition of the planets.... What an amazing play!
Mars the bringer of war and I discovered Holst from the soundtrack to "spaced invaders"
I hear metallica Am I Evil !!!! actually its note for note and in the same key. only the bass line is a little different.
Am I evil is a song by diamond head ,metallica just covered it
Pure shit man... how a band could record something like that?!?!
zappa also stole from holst
This bassist is a hero
intro some thing like metallica
Hmmm androdema must’ve stolen it🤔
Nathan Wright i hope you're kidding haha, if you do cheers :)
It's Flat :) QC
the intro sounds a lot like sabbaths black sabbath. who ripped of who?
This is before Black Sabbath
@@Capillus my guy ur replying to an 11 year old comment
Black Sabbath supported Andromeda back at the time....
@@GuerssenRecords Yeah, but the only record I can find of that is from March 1970, after Sabbath's version of Holst. This song was on the radio, though, as were several other songs that used this Holst riff between this coming out and Sabbath's take (and Deep Purple and King Crimson had both been playing it earlier in the same summer before Sabbath). Would love to find evidence of a 1969 show with pre-Sabbath Earth and Andromeda playing together, though!
Sounds like if tool was from the 60s
diamond head
This was 11 years before "Am i evil"
Hu hu hu... Without this Andromeda your name stealing "Andromeda" wouldn't make the music they make today and would probably have a different name..
And no one pwns anyone.
lol
?
:D
writting on the wall - shadow of man