10 Advanced Food Plot Tips for Quality Whitetail Herds
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- Опубліковано 25 кві 2017
- Food plot lovers beware, because if you are not following these 10 advanced food plot tips, your potential for creating quality deer herds and hunting opportunities may be doomed no matter how pretty and attractive your plots become. To learn more, visit, "www.whitetailhabitatsolutions..."
A food plot seminar with beer. That is awesome.
Thank you for putting out this class for us new guys to see.With so much content it’s really easy to see the whole picture and understand how everything works. Thanks again man!
You are very welcome...thank YOU!
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I have watched this several times and at 1:20:40 wow. Makes perfect sense. Keep all of your food the same and it makes it a lot easier to predict their movement. I know you say that a lot, but the way you say it there really resonates. 💯
Thanks a lot Miguel...such an important concept! Really hope that hits home with folks...
Jeff I love watching your videos. I hope stuff I learned and did so far is great for our place. And tell group take a break and grab a beer. Lol I would love to see your plan with my 34 acres and 30 acres of hunting but close to highway.
I have used your no-till strategy in southwest wisconsin for the first time this year and despite the drought have some decent looking plots, so thanks. One thing you should be aware of is that Earthway has changed the strap design on their 2750 and I have had nothing but troubles with it. Went to put down winter rye last weekend and the strap broke where it attacheds to the bag. This was the second strap designed differently than the original that came with the bag, so I am a bit frutrated. Put down 500 pounds of winter rye with my old Chapin...not the greatest but got the job done. Just so you guys know when taklking up the 2750.
You sure catch alot of heat for all the hard work you do. That has to get frustrating, while trying to stay professional. Sorry for the crap, bit thanks for the information and hard work. Most of us appreciate it.
Ah no big deal KC...really appreciate it tho! Hard having the largest whitetail UA-cam channel outside of the Hunting Public...in terms of views, watch time, comments, shares, etc per video. Haters goin to hate ☺️ You and so many on this channel are incredible! So awesome with the exception of a very low % folks that probably are just venting on here to reflect a terrible home life ..
I have a four year old with the mentality of a two year old. Corn, clover, and soybeans are my go to year after year.
Lots of my neighbors that don't consistently shoot the majority of the oldest bucks in the neighborhood have the same mentality ☺️ Like taking candy from a baby...
Hey Jeff, Just wanted to say I admire the insight and passion u have for whitetail habitat and behavior,
I'm a Western PA bow hunter, mostly hunt Elk, Clearfield and Jefferson counties. I live in Brockway, Jefferson county, about 40 min northwest of Punxsutawney.
You mentioned in this video that u hunted Pa public lands for 17 yrs, I was curious if u could recommend or share any sources on whitetail strategies for big woods/strip mine reclamation type terrains? I'm guessing u know the type of terrain I mean.
And, what public lands did u hunt here in Pa? And what are your favorite counties here.
Hate to ask so many questions but any advice or sources on post rut late season strategies. You probably know that the hard mast crop ( 2017) in my hunt areas at least, did not produce much this year.
Ok Jeff hope to hear back from you soon.
When are you coming back to michigan for a seminar?
Would love to meet you an again some more valuable information
Good info. I have a small bit of land in central FL about 40 acres the deer don't live on my property but the do vist at night along with them is a very nice buck I am trying to figure out how to invite them on in the afternoon. So I can get a shot on him
The property that I grew up hunting on had this exact same problem. I didn't even hunt archery on it. My dad wanted open timber and mowed pasture. We had cattle on it for 8 years or so which killed all ground cover in the woods. We took some timber out of the woods because of disease and blow downs and have let the pasture grow up. Just by doing this, we have seen a great increase of deer in the day time.
Next up is creating the best food for 1/2 mile away.
awesome video. In your first example of your own property, where would you place morning stands to take advantage of movement back to the bedding? Seems like you would have to cut pretty deep into the middle of the property to get to the edge of the bedding, or cross onto neighboring properties to access from the back side.
We are blessed with incredible hills and being able to go well around food in the morning to get to bedding areas high in the hills and away from morning deer. The distant ag fields help to hold deer at daybreak too. Getting out is easy with holes in the habitat that don't attract deer bedding. Also steep terrain that doesn't hold deer.
I enjoy your thoughts. Sometimes I wonder who's learning more, you or her?
Great video, I learned a bunch
Zach Halfin thank you, I hope it helps a lot this year!
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Great stuff Jeff! Would love to attend one of your workshops if your ever up north in Canada, I’d come to you for a presentation like that!
Thank you very much! I just did another seminar like that and we will turn it into a UA-cam vid very soon..."How to hunt the annual rut"
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Good video! Keep it up!
MisterBassBoost Thank you very much! We will try to keep them coming for sure...
Jeff,
I enjoy your content your very knowledgeable! I've learned alot from your video's. What app do you use to draw your layouts with on your tablet?
When you were talking about switch grass for deer that stays standing year round... what kind of switch grass specifically are you referring to? lots of different kinds... excited to lime this year in lower michigan and then start planting next spring
Great question! You want the strongest possible variety that you can plant... absolutely no mixes,and nothing more than the best sg for your area. Seed manufacturers create blends so they can call it their own proprietary blend, and the latest and greatest, "bedding in a bag". When really it boils down to the strongest, most appropriate single seed variety for your area. I lower MI and most of the central Midwest that means Cave In Rock switchgrass.
Any basic tips for the midlands in SC? I hunted Ohio, WV, KY, as a younger man. I have noticed some differences in the deer actions. But mostly the hunters actions. Any tips or suggestions? I know in Rome do as the Romans.
What should you plant on small fall and winter food plots? What is best?
Are you going to do a workshop in iowa any time soon? Would love to come If you are in the area!
Hi Clayton...I am not...wish I was! Schedule is fill r out thru February and most of 2021 so I know not right now...
Jeff, I have been watching your videos for a few years now and I have a couple serious questions. We have owned a 30 acre farm for 3 years now. First year, we planted corn on the entire 6 acres of tillable. Second year we planted all greens in the fall(brassicas, turnips, rye, winter peas, soybeans, oats with clover around the entire outside edges.) ******We have noticed a significantly increased amount of action with the corn field over the second year "green variety" option... I have been doing some other research and it seems that our problem with the "second year variety greens" option is the sense of security for the bigger, more mature bucks.****** I have read articles that mature bucks tend to shy away from "open" areas and really thrive on lush thick areas (corn being taller and still having that food attraction)...With all that being said, this 3rd year, I think we are going to go with the frost seed option on the entire 6 acres with white and ladino clover/chicory mix and then plant corn in with the clover/chicory mix in the spring... Do you see my experience as great/adequate/mild/poor or terrible? ---I know that corn holds ZERO nutritional value but, it is a super attractor when all other fields are harvested. Also, the green bed of clover/chicory under the corn seems to be a real winner?... Please help and comment your opinions, they mean A LOT to us!! Thank you!!! (We have around 100 acres to the west of us that is OFF limits to hunting. It is very very thick and deer love it for bedding. Our 6 acres is one of the highest elevated pieces of dirt around. This 30 acres is in SE Iowa)... 3 years ago, we also planted apple, deer pear, persimmon and plum trees right down the middle of our long and narrow 6 acre food plot -hoping to draw them out of the thick bedding areas. There is also a creek/small river flowing about half mile away from our 30 acre farm.Thank you!!!!
Great comment. I'm not Jeff obviously but I wonder if you broke up that 6 acres of tillable land into several for plot varieties. Some corn, some winter forage, spring forage, etc in smaller plots among the 6 acres. In between put thick native cover plants to create the security for the deer. Cut a few trails into these as game trails emerge, based on wind and time of year you can set up your stands or blinds to ambush the deer based on where they are feeding.
Plus you'd be creating a balanced diet for them
Just a thought but without seeing the actual land, understanding thermals, and what your neighbor's land is like plus feeding sources its hard to understand the full picture
@@gee8648 excellent note for me to look review again next spring. We really appreciate your helpful comments. Thank you!!
Have you ever ran into a property that isn't capable of holding deer due to property location/pressure from properties around yours? For example, are all these properties youre talking about surrounded by state land and or private or a mix? What if deer only come from a over hunted direction due to open fields on your neighbors property? Your bringing up lots of great points. Thanks for sharing!
Good question Jordan! No parcel is hopeless...I've actually found some of the least pressured lands are adjacent to public land ..the worst are adjacent to small private lands.
But really, typically so much more potential on every land...than landowners even realize.
Western Middle Tn., best switch grass variety? Can I make it work if I will NOT resort to glyphosate?
Jeff, what is this poker book you wrote? Playing poker with deer in the woods? Playing poker with the bush? Where can I get a copy of this book? Thanks.
Hi Jeff, I'm in central KY (49 acres). It sounds like would agree generally that 2 food plots with clover and winter rye in each based on the winter in this area of the country?
Currently own 55 acres of land in CNY. It's about half swamp, with a mixture of white pine, red oak, maple, cedar and beech. Surrounded by ag land. The entire county is full of ag. The county has a ton of deer, but is also hunted heavily. What are your thoughts on planting fruit/nut trees instead of the standard field style food plots? I don't want to sacrifice the timber areas for food plots as they hold the deer well when the pressure ramps up. They feel safe in the woods surrounded by swamp. I want to give them some food options. Some variety from the corn/beans/alfalfa etc.
Great question Dalton! I really like recommending to clients for them to plant soft mass in areas they are going to hunt...bowstands especially...and then hard mast in bedding areas and general holding cover, to compliment daytime Woody browse. Plant a variety of fruit so that you can have an attraction all season long ..and try to keep that variety near every treestand.
I hope that helps!
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 appreciate the response! I have quite the variety picked out as far as fruit goes. Plus some chestnuts for the hardwoods to compliment the natural beech and oak. Sounds like I'm doing things right so far. Thanks! Would love to catch a seminar if you ever give one in NY
Do you put plans together for people who want to focus on turkey hunting more than deer hunting?
What about planting a sunflower field instead of corn. Will that work even if its a small area?
Hi Jeff, thanks for the videos! What is your opinion on electric fences to protect part of a plot from browsing?
I was wondering about that also. I have 160 acres and 50 of it is trees. I want to plant a food plot or 2 but I lease the property to a cattle farmer for pasture so it would be pointless to plant food for deer if the cows eat it all.
Geez...can't spell either I guess🙂 Wanted to add that I put in 5 -150 gallon water troughs and mock scrapes...seeing more deer than ever.
Will you be doing any presentations like this in the future?
Watched this several times the past year. I'm down in Alabama. We have 55 acres, then another 85 acres close to each other. During August - December we have deer all over the place. Daytime bucks, 10-12 does in the food plots, etc. Starting at the first of December, the bucks AND does just disappear. Does start coming out only at night, and the bucks just disappear. And I mean ZERO daytime pics on any of our cameras. Plenty of food planted, plenty of cover. Even though the parcels are small, it's only my dad and I that are hunting it, so I feel like we're not pressuring them? Maybe we are. We don't drive on it. I just don't understand that the property is fine for them up until December, then there's just no daytime movement at all.
I'm wanting to make a food plot with just one plant for winter and one for summer. Im using a yard rake ,garden rake,and grass whip. All together I have about 1/2 acre if not 1 acre I can plant. I just want one for winter and one for summer. There are no food plots or agg fields near me. I just need something for the deer to eat more and I'm in Louisiana. Everyone around here I have talked to said plant rye grass and I don't want rye grass I want to give something for my deer to actually eat and grow.
How do you control afternoon movement when there is no ag for after dark in a timber pine area?
I cant stop the deer from desimating the plots before they can establish. Literally are eating corn at 2 inches. Never gets to grow, it is a small field in the woods though.
You may have to adjust what you plant with that many deer. Leave the field bare or just with buckwheat during the Summer and then plant an August cool season annual. That's what I have done for years just due to not enough room for corn...
Very educational and I will be using some of your recommendations on my new 106 acres this year. In addition I like your website and the content that it contains. I may reach out to you if I need to do so. Please keep up the good work.
MrOmcif thank you very much, and good luck with your 106 acres this year!
U mind if I come hunt there too lol I need private land 😂😭
When you were talking about the Northwoods Whitetail Brassica Blend you said that id didn't have any dwarf rape witch is a good thing. Why is this a good thing?
It's just a low volume, cheap filler. They don't call it dwarf for nothing ☺️ It's ok in small quantities for variety...but at less than .75 per pound and only 5#s needed per acre...many companies use too much as a low quality, cheap filler to lower the overall cost of a bag of seed, down.
HOLY CRAP YOU TALK FAST. WORDS RUN TOGETHER. LOL GOOD STUFF
Hey I don't know if you respond to these comments or not? But I'm hunting blacktail. In the northwest Washington. And I've been trying to keep my deer herd fed with apples. But I don't want to keep going into this area and spreading my sent everywhere. Is there any suggestions.?
Hello Jeff, I have watched nearly all of your videos on UA-cam and many others. I live in central Texas and have started working a 42 acre parcel of land for turkeys and whitetails but there is very little information I have found for food plots and other management techniques in my area. The acreage I am working is almost an island within Agg land and cattle ranches. The deer population is very low and I wish to grow it over the years. Do you know of any resources and information (books, tools people) that are pertinent to my location? I value your time and appreciate any info you may have. Thanks!
dead end, I think his area is the north central/east. Texas maybe a different animal as lots of high fence and ag land is basically desert for most of the year, other than for the hogs
On the property i hunt there is a 12 acre mature pecan trees off the main road. Then 2 football field size feild that is usually planted. Then woods with lots of mature oaks and mix of maples and popular the pine. My question is how do you think planting acre or 2 under the pecans would do? Right now under pecans is tall broom grass.
The pecan trees are tough...lots of shade! If there is plenty if sun than yes a couple of acres of food plots could be outstanding, in particular hollowed out within the broom grass. Really depends on the sun though...also, cutting some maple, poplar and pine for early successional growth and daytime browse would be important too! Lots of variables and hard to be sure...
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 lots of under growth for day time brouse as much of property is wet. And in previous videos you talk about change in environment and edges. Middle of property is mostly wet out outer edges are mostly open pine would that be considered that. And good sun to ground under pecans. Thanks for all info as i think i have beng watched all your videos the paat few days.
@@jasonparker92 it really would help, but you have to make sure that you can move around the land without spooking deer from then plot. I always say that if you have to spook deer from then plot to access stand locations...you are better off shrinking or getting rid of the plot.
And that's a lot of videos, lol! I hope you have enjoyed them and best of luck with the plots...again...lots of sun 😉 thanks Jason!
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 uploaded a picture to your facebook of area I was describing
@@jasonparker92 I appreciate that...but I haven't been on my Facebook for a while, just not enough time. I may see it in the coming week? I got a new phone last week and don't even have my Facebook app on the phone yet, lol I will check it out soon though...
It takes me roughly an hour to go through my UA-cam comments every day...trying to find some balance! Really appreciate your comments though...
Did a 6 ft vine scrape down to waist level with a camera…..same thing you did step by step….so heres the real question is it because of the amount of acreage you have? The acreage around you? Im being honest because zero has showed up to mine. Id willing to show you whats happening on mine if this is supposed to be true
When you refer to "winter rye" are you meaning annual rye grass or a cereal rye of some sort?
Winter rye = rye grain
Definitely Winter rye...grain, no grass seed.
I hunt my neighbor's property across from my cabin on top of a hill up north in Michigan surrounded by state land there's a lot of woods there's a couple spots that have oak trees mostly pine trees there's no agriculture farms nearby mostly hardwoods there's a swamp with a river going through it a couple miles away I'm thinking about putting in a 1/4 acre food plot I have a ground blind permanently set up where I hunt and a two-man stand that I put in last year I don't ride my four-wheeler to it I usually walk from my cabin down the road to the pipeline where I come in off a old four wheeler trail I could also walk through the woods to my spot i use trail cams every year I get nice buck, doe pictures mostly nocturnal I see does and fawn during shooting light I haven't see any bucks during shooting light I'll get a couple during the day that's usually when I'm down in lower Michigan at work I only hunt on weekends or if I get opening week off for rifle season but I don't have no food plots or know of any nearby I know alot of people bait up there and with Michigan doing the band against baiting for the whole state do you think the food plot would be able to hold deer and maybe make the bucks that I had that where nocturnal come out during daylight hours I come in and out of my stand super quiet and the same way every time what are your thoughts on that?
Greg Bosell Jr this should help you. ua-cam.com/video/1aa--jf4CjY/v-deo.html
Asshole stay on topic Chris, go back to your class and teach them, time and place for everything. Greg was asking a question and for help not a education on punctuation.
Do you cover Arkansas?
Will deer move to hay field at night for food source?
Jeff will you be speaking again anytime soon? I would love to come to one of you classes. Thanks, Mike
Mike, I don't have anything set up at the moment, but I will later in the year - most likely at Lacrosse archery. Topic to be determined yet but I know there will be something at some point. Would be great to see you there! I will create a UA-cam vid and post on my site when I do...
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 Ahhhhhhhhh I'm so excited. I can't wait. I promise I won't ask for too many autographs. But I gotta get you to sign my Earthway Seed Spreader. I bout that strictly because of you! Haha Hahaha when I read this I screamed and my wife thought something was wrong! Can't wait. Ok I will call down now! 😳
@@Bamamike223 that's too funny, and very cool at the same Tim Mike! Sign your Earthway spreader model 2759, lol.
Look forward to seeing you there too, will have to create one for the Spring for sure!
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 Awesome... Or as we say in the South, "Yaaaaaaasssss"!!
@@Bamamike223 lol, nice...I like that!
Gaylord and Alpena Michigan that's me! Lol
Ha...nice Andrew 🙂
I hunt montmorency 😁 i have 60acres there im from Ohio have grown up going up there sense i was 5.
P.s love your stuff. 👍😁
Me too!
I cringed watching the popple tree felling at 54:10. I have logging experience and can say that the way he fell that tree was VERY DANGEROUS and should NEVER be done that way. If that tree couldn't be properly hinged on the felling side before making a back cut then it shouldn't have even been felled PERIOD. I don't care that the intention was simply to make it fall and stay intact. If you must do that then make your hinge and just don't back cut all the way. The way he fell that tree it could have came back on him and he may not have been able to get out of the way fast enough. Also it could pinch and snag the saw when it pops and kick the saw back. NEVER FALL A TREE THAT WAY. Also, he didn't clear himself a good exit. You need it clear around you where you fall a tree.
Ty Mason they are hinge cutting not felling trees you want to keep 1/2-1/3 of trunk to remain an bend over that way tree will survive a year or two it a way to bring canopy food to the forest floor it’s a cheap way of supplemental feeding
Wish I was dillon
Food sources / food plots are non existant in the Adirondacks. You have no Ag either. Every year we have some of the best hunters attempt to hunt in the Adirondacks of upstate Ny and are humbled. For rifle season you can hunt every day and never come across a buck or big buck to shoot for the entire season. You should make a video related to that.
im sorry 4wheelers arent gonna scare the deer like people think.. if you drive down in your woods on a 4wheeler all year round and u have mature deer what is about the october that somehow changes that? nothing.. if deer are used to your 4wheeler on regular basis its just another day.. my father broke his back 20 yrs ago and cant get in the woods without his atv and parks it within touching distance away in the ground blind and shoots 5 year olds plus with a compound on a regular basis. he does better than i do. deer arent bothered by an atv they might run out of sight if they see you but they come back a fair percentage of the time 4 wheelers dont leave human scent on the ground its just the scent theyre already used to. only time i can see an atv being a problem is if theres zero 4wheelers being driven on the land the rest of the seasons bc its out of the ordinary. so im sorry i HIGHLY disagree with 4wheelers being a problem for getting mature bucks.. we live in southern teir ny and its highly hunted in our area and my father has better luck than other hunters and theres not a single time hes in the woods without that atv. cant roll a wheelchair through the woods MYTH BUSTED SORRY
rain whenidie666 sorry but I’ve seen quite the opposite. In mid MO they could care less but I’m MS I’ve seen regular use STILL be associated with “hunters” just different animals there. Much more nervous. We Had feeders in the camp yard and deer totally accustomed to people going and coming. Would just stand there and watch people in campfire light or watch trucks come up and people BS ing. Now when someone would crank an atv 400 yards away across the other side of camp and the deer would all hit the brush. Even at night.
And the caretaker would drive his around everywhere all year checking stands and property as well as filling feeders. They NEVER got used to them.
I don’t think the beginning of his comments makes sense. Growing food plots and then spooking deer from your food plots? Wouldn’t the people living in the communities with the swimming area in the houses and all the other things spoke the deer more? Why would the deer run from the food plot on the 400 acres to the housing community?
Deer Farms? Let's see I'm gonna feed deer all year, set up my heated blind and wait for a trophy buck. Wow......
If that's how you like to hunt I say go for it Chris! Not for me though, but as your hunting that's a good thing bud...
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All these dudes talk Midwest stuff. Zero applies to the east. All they know is food! Plant soy beans, corn. Clover brassicas. Ag ag ag. Speak on big timber. Success goes down 50% I bet
All the exact same concepts bud. Born out of the wilderness area of the UP of MI. Makes the northeast look like a zoo, lol. If these concepts work there...they work anywhere a whitetail roams. Which is why I have clients scattered all over the northeast every single year...
I invite you to stick around on the page and learn a bit before commenting again...
And people wonder why God is always mad at them. When are y'all gonna learn to quit trying to control everything in life and just let God take care of everything
I suppose since you have an inside tract on whether God is mad at some or not, He left you charge to judge others?
It's called stewardship bro...God left man to govern and care for all wildlife. You should try it! As someone so in tune wuth God and his thoughts, you should really like it ;)
What a silly comment... people put bird feeders in their yard to look at birds... I guess we are “control” crazy!
@@TheHYENA87 great point, ha