Pilot NEARLY LANDS ON ACTIVE TAXIWAY at Lakeland | "You just landed over another aircraft"
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Note to self: Disregard emails. Listen to ATIS.
Wow
Right?? Since when do emails supersede ATIS, and NOTAMS?? I’m sorry but this pilot needs his license suspended, OR a good ass chewing at FSDO. Preferably both
Note to self know what day the fly-in starts
Don’t forget to read the NOTAMs
ya think? Geez
Next week:
Tower: Who cleared you to land?
Pilot: I saw a TikTok...
ATC is a conspiracy by the deep state to control you. You don't actually have to listen to them. Resist!
(also please buy stuff from this company that is paying me to make clickbait nonsense)
"A little birdie told me..."
"Did you have a birdstrike?"
"No sir."
🤣🤣🤣
Twitter....shame on u😮
😂
That attitude will get that pilot nowhere.
Not unusual these days. Folks got the burr of entitlement under their saddles.
*altitude
It’s very likely to get someone dead.
It probably does in real life. This is the kind of guy who was born on the third base line and thinks he hit a triple.
Might get them a nice chat with the FAA
Man, ATC must have thought Harrison Ford was coming by.
I was just about to comment that as well
HF was actually humble and apologetic on frequency, saving his maverick side for Hollywood instead of ATC...
Hann Solo was his instructor 😂
At least Harrison is a real and experienced pilot, not a crusty old hack.
I just need someone to post the Simba Cloud joke, and my tired old aviation meme bingo card will be complete for the week!
Legend says the cub is still waiting for a takeoff clearance
He's hanging back eavesdropping on the fuss
"I got an email...." Might as well have said, "I saw it on the internet." Must be true, then!
They can't put it on the internet if it's not true. At least that's what my Nigerian prince friend says...
I googled "clear to land" and the results said "clear to land".
The notam literally has a link to the Internet for instructions. And yes: these instructions: Do a Harrison Ford and land on the taxiway - also, don't call us, we'll call you.
Alexa said ''something went wrong, make a U-turn and land''
I wish he had replied "And I got a picture on my phone with your balls on it"
1:00 I love "aircraft in the upwind, what is happening?"
"Not much, what's happening witchu?"
nm toga u?
Why is he being a D-bag about it. "Welp I'm talking to you now!" ...So would he like to have his entire phone call about his possible suspension broadcast on frequency too?
yeah we are all humans and make mistakes but to defend a stupid dangerous decision is total but hole
Even if he was in the right there he still tried to land on a taxiway/closed runway and nearly struck another aircraft in violation of the universal Rule 1 of vehicle operation, which is don’t crash your vehicle.
"Contact tower" means switch to tower frequency. He was on tower frequency.
To be honest, this was Tower's mistake. Tower told him to contact Tower. He was on the Tower frequency. That instruction makes no sense. Tower should have either told him to advise when ready to copy a phone number or (probably preferred since he was already in the traffic pattern where he doesn't need to be distracted) told him to expect a phone number to copy upon landing.
@@vbscript2 technically correct, but in practice it's bad reasoning. If they say "contact tower" and you're already contacting the tower, then with a little brain power you could guess they meant another form of communication... like smoke signals, carrier pigeons, or even a telegraph! I think a telephone is easier but hey.
I am no pilot or know a lot about civil aviation, but I can tell you, the pilot of N5141R was someone I would never want to spend time with and possibly a huge narcissist... Such arrogance causes trouble and one day someone will get hurt because of him.
A person with a bunch of money and most likely an easy job where he's never told no..... Color me shocked.
I got the same vibes from him.
That's like 70% of the old GA pilots out there. This kinda thing isn't surprising. I've had to break off the pattern a few times because of people like this.
Kind of reminds me of the video (I believe it was this channel) where the pilot argued with his right to fly into a military TFR zone. SMH
@@m6dude I'd love to have a listen of that one lmao that exchange of words must have been great
I had a very similar experience. I had been cleared to hold short (Cessna 152), and as I was crossing the taxiway I noticed a shadow passing over from my left. I looked to my right in time to see a 172 touching down on the taxiway. He had landed right over my wing. Tower asked him if the runway seemed a bit narrow today. Dummy landed on a narrow little 'runway' with a yellow line down the centre, right next to a big wide runway with all sorts of runway markings (and no aircraft sitting cross-ways). Nice sunny day too. If he had landed just a bit shorter, we could have shared cockpits.
I've done that a few times... Only the thing is, I'm not a pilot, and the simulator doesn't get as upset as the FAA if I mess up 😂
Y'know, there's no law that says taxiway A needs to be straight and run the length of the runway. Obviously, it confused Harrison Ford. That's a choice to make Alpha a parallel made by planners without the pressure of landing an airplane, possibly after a long flight. Murphys law - if it can be confused as a runway, it will. There might be a better layout; while we're at it, maybe avoid multiple choice intersections near two runways. Etc... maybe offset the threshold enough that airplanes landing aren't a threat to those holding short. In short, there are decisions that can improve safety - make those first before complaining that sometimes people make errors.
Didn't listen to ATIS.
Didn't check the NOTAMS
Went off an email that had a wrong date.
I don't know if this pilot could have screwed this up more. He's just lucky he's still breathing and that he didn't kill someone else.
And his attitude - "... I'm talking to you now!" is such a trigger for me and i bet anyone else who has parented adolescents.
@@jpf1978
"Servant Air Ministries/Cessna 172'M' Sky Hawk/N5141R"
From personal experience with organizations who make that type of proclamation, that does go a long way to explain that pilot's attitude.
@@markmaki4460
Contact tower is how they tell pilots to switch to tower frequency, he was on tower frequency. Don't get triggered, that was tower's mistake in not saying "I need you to call tower after landing".
Yeah this guy shouldn't be flying! What an idiot.
And don't forget, he tried to land on a taxi way too!
As crazy as this is, the sound of the idling Cub in the background of the radio calls N6868H is so nice.
That small continental idle is such a pretty sound.
I just love that it HAS a radio, which implies a lot of equipment it isn't required to have, but which makes everything safer for everybody. That is a respectful pilot. The one landing, not so much.
Mistakes happen -- that's why swiss cheese is a thing; but incompetence AND arrogance in aviation? That's unforgivable. TY VAS!
My instructor used to say there are old pilots and bold pilots, but no old pilots. Seems the same here - there are incompetent pilots and arrogant pilots, but an arrogant and incompetent pilot I wouldn't expect to have a long life.
Here for the Harrison Ford comments
At least Harrison knew he messed up with his, "Yeah, I'm the ***** who landed on the taxiway" comments. This pilot needs a good dose of humility.
Same!
Legend has it that N5141R emailed the tower to request the phone number.
The attitude!
Never understood that. People gotta put their tail between their leg when they mess up, some people get so embarrassed their emotions come into play.
Sounds like he’s visiting from Texas.
Like they say in mountain climbing: it's not your altitude, it's your attitude.
Sounds like a boomer
@@brianross2377 was thinking Mississippi or Arkansas
Please FAA if you are listening to this: suspend his license or investigate further, please!
The multiple mistakes alone are bad enough, but the hazardous attitude is what will kill himself or others.
Airmen, do not fly like this please! -sincerely a CFI.
Ah, but even if they take his license away, if he owns the airplane, he'll continue to fly it.
CFI. the lowest form of airmen.
@@ImpendingJoker cant take my keys!
The FAA doesn't read youtube comments for advice on how to run their agency. 😑
@@A.J.1656 lol right? That'd be like getting your landing information via email!
Sounded like an older person but it must be their first time going to a fly-in event like this. They should have been clued in a long time ago that something was wrong. These events say don't call in but they do say monitor (as the pilots said he was on frequency) because the tower still issues you a landing clearance. You don't just land on your own. They identify your aircraft color and type (or "high-wing" or "low-wing") to give you landing clearance on a colored dot (like in the satellite image) and acknowledge by rocking your wings. The fact that he heard nothing because it was too early, should have been the first sign that something was up. He chose to land anyway.
Whether this individual pilot is a first-timer I don't know, but the Evangelical "ministry" which owns this aircraft is well-known for showing up at fly-in events to aggressively proselytize.
He didn't actually land, so it is possible he was waiting for a clearance before landing. I'm giving a lot of benefit for not very much doubt, but it is possible.
Maybe it was Clark Griswold, flying in to Wally World and not noticing the parking lot is completely empty.
@@thomasdalton1508 he was expecting to land and initiated a go-around when he saw the plane on the runway, er, taxiway.
@@OfficeLinebacker That's what he said, yes, and it does seem to imply he was intending to land otherwise, but it's possible he wouldn't have landed without clearance. As I said, I'm giving a lot of benefit of the doubt. I'm only talking about possibility, not probability.
I guess that email cleared him for the base turn as well.
This dude sounds very familiar. Victor, didn't you do another video of this guy arguing with tower while he flies straight through the pattern?
"I been flyin through here for 25 years and it never been no problem before!"
Found the vid -- "Pilot WON'T FOLLOW INSTRUCTIONS | Receives Phone Number to call" -- sounds like a different guy to me. Would be wild if it was though.
@@chunkychuck Hey good find and you are correct. Those are two different asshats with the same attitude and aptitude shortcomings.
@@chunkychuck different boomer, same attitude.
I've never done any pilot training but I'm pretty sure that fairly early in the curriculum there would be something that says "Don't give attitude to the guys/girls who's job it is to keep you alive."
The attitude of that pilot will be a termination of license for a long time! "I am talking to you now"! Wow ! What an attitude!!!
I think that part actually was due to a confusing (and incorrect) instruction from the Tower. The Tower told him to "contact the Tower." This means to switch to Tower frequency and contact them. That instruction is obviously nonsensical when you're currently talking to the Tower on the Tower frequency. Tower should have instead told him to expect a phone number to copy after landing.
@@vbscript2
ATC should have instructed the pilot to be ready to copy a number for the Tower.
His accent says it all.
@@vbscript2
That's what I was thinking.
Hubris from the controller called forth hubris from the rusty pilot who hasn't flown the plane much recently.
There's no excuse for either of them.
@@LowEarthOrbitPilot Normally, yes, "Possible pilot deviation, advise when ready to copy a phone number" would be the normal thing to say if the aircraft was leaving your airspace. However, in this case, the aircraft was currently flying back around the pattern to land at the same airport after doing a go-around. Even in general aviation, this is a high workload time with several checklists that need to be run, plus looking for traffic, and, of course, actually flying the plane. Not the time to be copying a phone number. So, in this case, just telling them to expect a phone number to copy after landing would have been better.
Somehow, I had the feeling I would hear some thing from the Sun ‘N Fun fly-in this year! Just glad it was not a fatality
It's not over yet
Well, nothing happened yet, we'll all wait and see if your feeling turns out to be a magical power or not.
@@A.J.1656 Are you the pilot in the recording?
@@A.J.1656
You call one aircraft nearly landing on top of another aircraft on a taxiway “nothing”? Are you the fool at the controls of N5141R? Guess the local FSDO will have the final say in that.
Well, it's a good thing he was able to straighten out ATC on how things work.
They needed at least a little straightening out... not good to sow further chaos when confusion already abounds.
Ohhh so taxiway alpha is ALSO runway 28R. That makes a bit more sense
During the Fly In days yes
That is what the e-mail said
@@theconezy
😂
Not defending or condemning anyone, but having a taxiway that becomes a runway sometimes, sounds like a setup for disaster. Especially when ~sometimes~ happens during a period of increased traffic unfamiliar with the airport.
It took me most of the video to figure out what they meant by “28 right,” too. I only see one runway along the 280 axis!
I live right across the street from this airport, and listen in on the tower and ops radios. There was a lot of confusion in the days leading up to Sun n' Fun. Lots of flights coming in trying to figure out 10R/28L because it's not on their chart that way. Also a lot of pilots asking Tower for fly-in info that the tower doesn't know.
They do run a special ATIS when people are arriving. The FAA even put out an arrival procedure video a few weeks ago. It's going to be fun to watch the exodus tomorrow after the show ends.
To be honest, this is just a demonstration of a pretty standard issue nowadays:
Pilots getting their information via other methods. Even though we still have an ATIS broadcasting all the time, pilots will still use information from online weather sources (that don't have NOTAMs), markers on moving maps that show TFRs (but didn't read the actual information of the TFR), and widely distributed event information (rather than the live broadcasts of information).
I'm not someone who's going to rant about Foreflight or those things - they're great tools - but too much ease of access to some information has meant the easy to attain information often is used over the most detailed information.
Well hell son, rubbin's racin'!
Taxing aircraft tried to cut off his line, he had it coming
I really wanted to hear a response to the ATIS reading.
He said nothing
A lot of crazy stuff happening with aviation today. It's unbelievable
What else happened today?
@@VASAviation I meat to say happening
@@VASAviation 260 Spirit Airlines pilots furloughed
@@Johnny-Michael well, thats spirit for ya
Nothing out of the ordinary. You're just following a channel that shows every little incident in detail.
WOW my local airport. Granted this is Sun n Fun and KLAL is currently the busiest airport in the world takeoff/landings wise these 5 days.
but WE ARE talking to the tower
Twice he wanted to play the jerk.
@@HandelStarwars Or he was just being dense. I think Tower should have used the standard phraseology instead of saying "Contact Tower" because on frequency that means "Switch over and call them on the radio".
Tower should have said the words "Possible Pilot Deviation: I have a number for you to copy, advise when ready to copy."
yeah,what an a hole....
For pilots watching the video, that was confusing. He was talking to tower and they kept telling him to contact tower. If they wanted him to call the tower after landing they should have said so. Sorry, but the pilot was correct there.
@@A.J.1656 Exactly. That one was on the controller. Not that the pilot's attitude was great, but the instruction Tower gave was nonsensical in that context. Should have just told him to expect to get a number to call the tower after landing.
Sun & Fun & Runway Incursions 2024
The Attitude of the people in that aircraft...
"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone." On the other hand....HOLY CRAP!!
I’ve made my share of stupid pilot tricks, but not listening to the ATIS or Checking notams…that isn’t stupid that is wilfully ignorant. Shouldn’t have a ticket
This wasn't the sin of adultery, the pilot wasn't caught by the Pharisees, the pilot wasn't the object of a test to see if Jesus would endorse the stoning. This guy messed up and then had an attitude about his mistake.
This doesn't look like some small field, and yet the traffic, comms and everything going on makes it look like one
Didn’t listen to ATIS. Didn’t check NOTAMs. Was NORDO the whole time, didn’t even bother using MF procedures. Nearly landed on a taxi-way. Couldn’t get a date correct. Likely didn’t interpret the email correctly (what fly-in says to go in blind with no comms). Macho attitude. That is some take away the license permanently type negligence and incompetence.
It happened to me. I cleared an air carrier for takeoff and they said what about the guy on short final? He was talking to flight service thought he was at a different airport.
I am so proud that it is NOT an Air Canada plane...
I bet when I'm retired I will lose track of what day of the week it is.
@NelsonBrown - if you do, I hope you have common sense enough to take up a hobby with a lower risk of hurting people, yourself included, than GA.
retired over two years ago and it amazes how many bone head things happen around me--it is not less brain function you just lose the edge that powered you for so many years--got the plane up for sale,my sports car,wife does not care to roll or fly anymore unless first or business class commercial- i do not blame her!
@@mtsky-tc6uw The insidious thing about declining brain function is that it also impairs our ability to realize it's happening.
@@NelsonBrown huh? what did you say?
Tower: “ Harrison is that you”!
I get it. Some of these events can get quite busy. But it wasn't busy that day. And the ATIS was pretty clear as to what was expected of the pilot. I'm sure he learned from it.
As to those who fault the pilot's language on the radio, keep in mind that he was likely pumping a massive amount of adrenaline from the event. It's difficult to keep communications completely calm without a lot of training. (But on the other hand, he could have an attitude problem; I'm just saying it's not a given.)
Adrenaline has nothing to do with it. He was just a self-centered douchebag. Decent pilots don't talk like, especially not after making mistakes like that. And, guess what, people like him almost never "learn from it." Their attitude is the biggest roadblock to their learning.
It is not difficult to calmly talk. This incident occurred on 06 April, and the Sun ‘n Fun fly-in and expo did not begin until three days later on 09 April.
This is the 50th Anniversary of Sun ‘n Fun, so it’s not like this is a new event, and the arrival instructions during the event week are quite clear, easy to locate, and easy to follow. The arrival procedures at any other time are standard.
Maybe I missed something, the email states no communication at a fly in to a towered (or non-towered) airport?
That cannot be normal. Sounds like dumb idea.
It’s for a fly-in, they most likely will treat the airport like a non towered field for the event.
Most of the major fly ins like this have specific procedures to keep pilots from talking over ATC while they're trying to handle a much larger volume of traffic inbound to the airport. From the 2024 SNF PDF: "ATC will contact you in the vicinity of Lake Parker’s north shore, using your aircraft “color” and “type” to
provide sequencing and other arrival information. ATC may ask you to “rock your wings” as an acknowledgment of instructions. Do not transmit unless
requested by ATC or if you have an emergency." This person was just full of excuses for poor flight planning.
Your know what the airventure fly in at oshkosh is? Just search it on youtube and you’ll understand.
It’s why I won’t go to them haha you get all kinds at them.😂
There are even videos going over the details of the arrival procedure, this one courtesy of the FAA: ua-cam.com/video/Hb9WYZsMG40/v-deo.html
What a coincidence, I had a pilot line up to land on the taxiway I was on in Lakeland a few months ago. That was terrifying
I was there, heard it in the radio and seen it happen. I was happy no one was hurt.
Is this from the Sun and Fun event?
Emails could have been sent hours or a day before, making them obsolete by the time the pilot gets into the destination airspace.. ATIS & NOTAMS did not give information that was open to interpretation. It said what it meant, and meant what it said. Luckily this did not develop into a tragedy.
LAL was my home airport for a while. Never tried to fly during Sun n Fun. 😅
Was just at sun n fun there had a great time
Bit of a lonely fly in it you’re the only one there!
Need to lighten up on this old timer, I mean yea he didn't know what he was doing but the tower kept telling him to "contact" the tower. He's not being an Ahole, he is just saying that he is talking to him as in he has contacted him. ATC should have said "call the tower when he gets on the ground"
I know I'm alone on this but in his defense. The taxiway is as wide as the runway. Sure there are no markings but it's likely still the runway on the map. 28R is preferable for GA taxing. Doesn't excuse not listening to ATIS, especially at an unfamiliar airport with Multiple crossing runways.
The power of an email is next to none.
So he knew that he was landing on a taxi way with an aircraft in sight on said taxiway and still proceeded, then came on tower frequency like he was correct and he didn't do anything wrong that the airport and other trafic was to blame
I think it's normally a taxiway but is being used as a runway for a particular fly-in event. He thought the temp runway was active for landing (when NOTAM explicitly says its not). So he thought he was landing on a valid temp runway and then the other aircraft started crossing the temp runway.
No he went around, he talked to tower and told them the reason he made the error, was corrected and cleared to land.
“The hell’s this idiot doing on the runway? Hehe I’ll just buzz him a little before going around to show him how stupid he is and then I’ll listen to him get a phone number to call, LIKE AN IDJIOUT,”
-Old man with a clapped out 172 (probably)
@@smgibb The cub was already on the taxiway minutes before this happened. Entered at Hotel, not Golf, as the computer generated image shows.
Air Canada go around
AIR CANADA GO AROUND
People keep making Harrison Ford comments. Sure, he made a mistake, a bad one at that, but he immediately and profusely apologized, owned up to it, and make the calls required.
This guy, on the other hand, seems like a raging narcissist who just didn’t care that he almost killed someone.
"Almost killed someone" 😂
Have mercy...
Unacceptable to not comply with 91.103, but he's obviously rusty and was obviously looking for potential runway incursions since he waved off and went around.
Not every deviation means that someone "nearly killed someone else"
If I was the pilot on the approved taxiway, I would have asked the tower to return to the hanger so I could change my shorts.
You poop in your pants?
I don't know what happened in this situation.
That said, the operation at the show was extremely disorganized. For example, the Notice to Airmen stated the airport opens each day at 0700, listing times for each day individually. But on Saturday, they were holding a 5k race on the runway at 0700, and the runway was closed. Tower advertised ATIS NOVEMBER, with runway 28L in use, and said nothing about a closed runway or closed airport for the race. Nor did many of the volunteer marshallers around the field know that the runway was closed for a race, and they did their job directing departing aircraft to the runway. So a long conga line of aircraft who planned to depart had to shut down for over an hour at the hold short line, and nobody, including the marshallers knew anything about the race; and LAL ground didn't respond to radio calls during this time.
Then the ride sharing spot at the main entrance -- at a sharp curve on a narrow two lane road -- is downright dangerous. They should have them use a parking lot like most modern airports. Or better yet, operate a shuttle to the nearby hotels, some of which are actually on the field.
Without a shuttle, there is no reason to pay the significant premium for an LAL airport hotel if you're going to the show. It will cost you 30 bucks a day for Ubers to get less than a mile across the field. Not a welcoming experience.
Lakeland fly-in is a charlie foxtrot every year. It's the trailer park of aircraft and the boat people of pilots.
I guess his calendar was running fast.
Seriously, though, when they turn taxiways into temporary runways for SUN 'n FUN or Oshkosh, they're asking for confusion. Granted, it is the the pilots' responsibility to read the NOTAMs.
What I want to know is, did he fly the entire procedure from Fantasy of Flight and monitor the approach frequency? Did he not think it was strange that he was the only one there and ATC was not transmitting?
well there is nothing to be confused about IF the pilot reads the NOTAMs
@@Tyleraviator99 NOTAM system is so broken that you can easily make this mistake. In fact, he would have seen Sun&Fun NOTAMs and might have mistakenly believed them to be active via confirmation bias from that email.
there are plenty of other sources to get the NOTAMs no excuse
@@YaroslavNechaev
@@Tyleraviator99 not sure you understand: regardless of the source of NOTAMs you will see that Sun&Fun NOTAM that confused him. His mistake was not reading the start date of the NOTAM properly but he did see the NOTAM.
@@YaroslavNechaev so still a pilot issue
Oh, the overwhelming allure of the Green Dot!
100% true.
I'll bet you that the guy who almost landed on A is 70+ years old....
Does it matter if the aircraft touched the ground or not? N5141R is at fault either way.
Ground Ops needed to know because they might have to check the surface for "unexpected" issues
It's more serious if he touched ground
So he had every intention to land on the Taxiway if it was clear? WTF?
I’m not even a pilot and I cringe every time someone says “I’m talking to the tower now” when they’re told to contact the tower. Also, I loved the long pause after they said it didn’t go into effect until Monday. He stayed confidentially moronic though.
What does "non-movement area" mean? The taxiways are closed, being used for parking, or what?
In non-movement areas of airports, you can taxi your airplane around without talking to ground. If you want to leave the non-movement area, you have to call up ground first, and get permission/taxi instructions.
The irony of Lakeland having the FAA Safety Center right there at the airfield also. I think 5141R needs to take a hard long reconsideration of attending that facility for a bit.
3:14 you can hear him trying to save his seat-warmer, had his finger on the key before the question was asked and still gave a stupid answer. "we went around as soon as we saw someone on the runway-on the taxiway". He knows what he did, and still can't admit fault, this attitude leads to deaths.
It may have been posted already but I am curious as to why the tower had no clue there was someone flying over low enough to be landing on a taxiway. The tower did not know he was there. I would hope the tower cab has a good view of this taxiway and runway, good enough to see a low flying airplane that is not talking to the tower. I am not excusing the pilot at all. He was wrong but why did the tower not see him if the Cub on the ground says he was landing on the taxiway?
There's a pilot hoping to just bullshite his way around responsibility
Tower Controller: “No, the fly-in does not start until Monday at 7 o’clock.”
N54141R: “Monday at 7 o’clock, well. I got an email that says I got an email that said Saturday”
Bro, it’s Friday. Either way you’re wrong. Stop digging a hole 😂
Incident happened Saturday 6 April. Flightradar24 shows him landing at 0749.
"We waved off as soon as we saw someone on the runwa- on the taxiway"
Fly-in or not, them lining up with a taxiway is a major concern.
''call the tower? lm talking to you NOW bub, how do ya hear?''
Can somebody please explain what he was going on about regarding a "fly-in" at 1:55?
I’m currently standing in front of that airplane
@2:19 - Irrespective of the day of a show or whatever - you don't really land on a taxiway, right? Asking for a pilot friend.
The atis made it sound like it used to be a runway but is now a taxiway? Or maybe the other way around?
During events such as AirVenture and Sun N' Fun airports will often convert taxiways into temporary runways and vice versa.
During the Sun n Fun Fly In, Taxiway A is used as parallel 10L / 28R
@@neb_setabed”Annually, around March-April, the airport hosts the Sun 'n Fun Aerospace Expo, a six-day fly-in, airshow and aviation convention”, so guessing taxi alpha may temporarilly become runway 28R.
@@JasonMcLemore thanks for the clarification - i'm ignorant here seeing that runway 28 itself didn't even hav a L/R printed ... thanks again
“Aircraft in the upwind, what is happening?” 😂 everyone getting on the pilot but what was this controller doing in the moments prior to this event?
Poor preflight preparation.
N5141R Owned by Servant Air Ministries. That 100% checks out. Good ol' boy who don't need no one tellin him what to do, then goes to church on Sunday to talk about Jesus.
Says it all.
A Turkish Airlines aircraft on a Warsaw-Istanbul flight with number TK1766 had to conduct an emergency landing at Bucharest after a bomb threat on the night of April 12. Perhaps you could cover that, if you can find any info.
Not sure what pilot doesn't listen to ATIS, email or not, before planning to land. I can see some confusion about the runways if you didn't' know about the fly-in since I would have looked at the airport plate and see there is no 28L/R and start to question where I'm headed.
No excuse, rude pilot that put others at risk and took no responsibility. Dangerous pilots have no business operating an aircraft. I sincerely hope this is investigated.
The N5141R pilot's attitude and ignorance of checking ATIS/NOTAM is unacceptable. I do have a question: how come the tower has no idea of this airplane on the approach when instructing 68N to cross the taxiway/runway? Even if 41R didn't talk to the twr, the twr could have contacted it when it's clearly in the airspace without any communication/permission.
He read an e-mail about ground rules for a fly-in coming up and didn't bother reading the NOTAM at all. When they do busy events, they line everyone up to come in at the same speed all in a row and don't give individual clearances. It's like the runway extends out about ten miles and being cleared for final equals being cleared to land. Nuts time to be anywhere near the place.
Wowwwwwwww what is HAPPENING! These old timers are wild and then have an attitude….
Why would advertise not to call anyone? Doesn't make sense, just asking for trouble. Should at least be blind calls on the tower frequency if the Tower/ATC is closed.
sun n fun is one of the largest fly ins in the country…you would think thr lack of traffic would have been a clue…but then again
Asking as a glider student who never went solo unfortunately, but wouldn't the sane thing be to state your intentions on the frequency before landing even though it is not required? Maybe even listen to the frequency?
The smart thing would be to check NOTAMs and the ATIS, both of which would state that 28R was unavailable. Things he could have done before even taking off.
@@goodshipkaraboudjan yeah I get that ad well, but even if he didn't why would you just go in without notifying the frequency.
Y'know, if Aviation was cheaper and easier to get into, it would no longer be the playground of geriatric old guys who shouldn't be trusted with walker, let alone an aircraft.
What’s the bet h3 can’t find the email that says Saturday…. Sounded arrogant….well I’m talking to the tower now…and so on.
So, if twy A was now 28R, should the other guy have taxiied onto it? I’m confused?
It WILL BE 28R during the fly-in. Same thing happens at Oshkosh. It creates more runways for the huge amount of traffic. However, the fly-in hadn't started yet, so it was still just taxiway Alpha, not yet 28R. The landing pilots just thought that the fly-in HAD started.
Why am I not surprised this aircraft is registered to a ministry? Missionary pilots seem to be the centre of a lot of these incidents.
Hopefully the other pilot also filed a report along with the tower.
I'll never understand how any competent pilot could mistake a taxiway for a runway. That being said I'm still shocked Harrison Ford still has his license.
For those wondering, N5141R is owned and operated by a conservative evangelical Christian "ministry" whose stated mission is to "provide air transportation" but whose members seem to spend most of their time aggressively proselytizing at air shows.
Common, a taxiway isn't so bad.
...At night,
I had one student during a stage-check line me up to land on a mall's parking lot. :)
Let’s see
One has blue and green lights
One is festooned with off white, green, and PAPI’s
One has strangely positioned white lights
What in the whole wide world 😰
I was wondering how that many mistakes could've been made in such a short period of time. The pilot is *definitely* still at fault, but man was there a lot going on. It's the same at Oshkosh every year: there's always going to be an idiot, making it harder for them to do something dangerous is sometimes the best way to prevent them from doing something stupid
The only way he could've handled that worse was telling ATC to send him an email about it
"Well I'm talking to you now"
Read: "Yeah I F'ed up but so what no blood no foul."
Harrison Ford did this at John Wayne airport years ago