How I 'Fixed' The Hobbit
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- Опубліковано 15 кві 2020
- This was my quest to find the Arkenstone, to unearth "The Hobbit" movies that I hoped were buried beneath their flaws and missteps.
Armed only with my love & respect for this world and the creative minds behind it - as well as some editing software - this is what I found...
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If you're interested in checking out these cuts of The Hobbit trilogy, just shoot me an email: thehartbeatmail@gmail.com
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I am still waiting for the day peter jackson sees your cut and realizes he made a wonderful movie full of heart hidden under many useless scenes
Say what you like but maybe approach this as though PJ was brought in late and Warner Bros was responsible for what we got. Peter Jackson probably would have only made one movie with far more lead time than he was given
@@Driretlan I think the major issue with the trilogy is that PJ only ever originally planned to produce the films...Guillermo del Toro intended to direct from the outset, but after the film was stuck in development hell for years (thanks in large part to the sheer number of studios / rights holders to be appeased among other issues, he walked and a new director needed to be found ASAP. PJ "took one for the team" and I don't think his heart was really in it to the degree it was for LotR. That said, the trilogy (it was originally planned as two films, not three) isn't nearly as bad as some folks seem to think it was, but yeah, judicious editing could have made for a series of tighter, less goofy, more emotionally satisfying movies.
@@scaleicons i watched lotr interviews and bts footage some days ago and after that i watched the hobbit production diaries on Peter Jackson's youtube channel.
watching those really brightened my day, even the hobbit ones where there is so much going on on-set.
🤡
Considering everything that I've read from behind the scenes, it's kind of a miracle these films came out as well as they did.
It's true! I really don't think PJ and company could've done it without the 20+ years of experience under their belts.
@@ChrisHartwell Right. Although the Hobbit trilogy didn't live up to the standard of the previous LOTR films, it could've been really, really bad.
Kind of reminds me of Justice League as well. A lot of flack is thrown Joss Whedon's way when it's amazing the movie is even as good as it is. Both Peter Jackson and Joss Whedon somehow made a cake without all the ingredients, it might not be the best cake you've ever had, but it's a miracle it even looks and tastes like cake in the first place.
@@thewatcher8573 Kevin Tsujihara really left Whedon out to dry just for a bonus.
@@Scrapluv yeah, dick move bro
Just watched all three. These are, without a doubt, the definitive fan-edits. There's only a single moment in all three movies that genuinely felt clunky, the scene where bofur runs to the river after sleeping in too late and sees the other dwarves who got left behind. (The eyelines don't really match, and it's kinda quickly paced, but it's such a small moment it really doesn't matter much.)
I've tried and tried and tried to find a 1-movie edit that worked, and while I was fine with the Maple Films edit and the Bilbo edition, there's just no getting around the fact that the transition between the first and second movies just isn't possible to make seamless. Hartwell took the right approach and simply left the trilogy a trilogy and worked to make the movies work on their own. Other editors made edits based on set-pieces or moments they wanted to get rid of, but Hartwell made his edits based on the demands of the story, which is always the right approach in movie making. I will happily put these on my roster for my next Middle Earth binge-fest. I really hope these take off and get noticed, and I hope Mr. Hartwell has a long and fruitful career in the industry, should he choose.
Reading this brought such a smile to my face - thank you!! _So_ happy that you enjoyed!
How did you get these?
@Pierreuhh contact the guy who made the video via the email he lists in the description. He tells you more at the end of the vid
@@terragthegreat175 But that was like 2 years ago. Will he still pass the edit today?
@@carlosgabrielmartinezcorde2984 only one way to find out
Just finished “An Unexpected Journey” and I was simply amazed! I never watched the original movies before, I loved the book too much and I wouldn’t bear to watch a bad adaptation of it but your cut is simply phenomenal!!! Enjoyed every moment of the movie and it didn’t seem like it was edited from the original. I applaud you! 👏👏
Can’t wait to watch the other two, very excited!
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The first movie isn’t that bad as an adaptation
@@ChadKakashi yeah it’s mostly the next two that are considered bad. It probably should’ve just been a duo-logy or a 3 hour movie.
Well I just finished watching your edits and I’ve gotta say they exceeded expectations that were already pretty high! Phenomenal job! Watching these brought back the magic I felt watching them when I was younger! I’m excited to see what you’ve done with the extended edits! Thank you so much for your hard work!
So, so glad that they worked so well for you, bud!
Is the Goblin town song in there
@@stopwatchstudios9622 gladly, it's not
@@ashutoshsharma9553 ugh I don’t like it as much as the second song the great goblin sings but I do think the Goblin song adds more culture to the Goblins
How do we watch?
Just watched the edits. These are really amazing cuts of the hobbit that not only make them much more enjoyable to watch, but also maintain some adherence to Peter Jackson’s vision instead of cutting out everything that isn’t in the book. Beautiful.
Just finished watching all three - although I've seen the theatrical and extended cuts, this one really tightens up the story and makes it pass without any excessive action, lulls, boredom or loss of focus.
Even with my high expectations going in, I'm actually surprised at how well it came together - it's really like not a second was wasted, and everything flows the way it seemed it was always meant to. Seriously impressed with this.
I aways liked The Hobbit trilogy, but after seeing so much negativity towards it, I started to ignore the films and pretend I didn't care about them anymore. But I do. They are genuinely better than most adventure movies we get nowadays and PJ, even under so much pressure from WB, still made them with care and love. I watched all three of them on cinema, the first one with my grandma, and she liked it a lot. I grew up waiting to see Smaug and reading the book to know how everything would end. This video made me remember why I like these movies. Thank you. I'll make another comment here as soon as I watch your cut.
Having watched the re-cut trilogy back-to-back, I can say this is the best version that The Hobbit trilogy that could be made. You cut away what was necessary, and restructured the story to make Bilbo and Thorin's journeys the focus. I agree with cutting out some stuff like the Necromancer vs. the Council, even if we did have to lose Christopher Lee. Contrariwise, I'm glad you didn't cut all of the extra subplots out, like reducing Legolas to a cameo, or completely cutting out Tauriel and Kili's romance, purely because they aren't in the books. My favourite alteration was putting Smaug's attack on Lake-town at the end of the second film rather than keeping it as the opening of the third. I greatly enjoyed these re-cuts and thank you for the fantastic job you did on them.
I could listen to you talk about Middle Earth for ages. It's almost soothing to the soul in a way lol Keep being awesome!
Haha! Thanks a lot! It really is one of my greatest passions (if you can't tell)!
Just watched the first of the three of his edits. I thoroughly enjoyed. I read the Hobbit countless times and could only stomach watching the film once despite loving Peter Jackson’s original trilogy. The overly bloated and excessively goofy scenes are toned way down and putting the Bilbo and Thorin relationship front and center really keeps this film on focus. Also, the story is more cohesive with less tangents. I’m excited to see the next two
Having seen these edits I can confirm that Chris has fixed nearly every issue I had when I first watched them. His decisive edits have removed everything that distracts from the true emotional core of the films, and I managed to shed actual tears for the ending for the first time. A brilliant demonstration of how films can be made or broken in the editing stages!
Hey Chris, really enjoyed these cuts. Particularly: the first two. I loved how you tightened things up and kept the focus on Bilbo and Thorin. I do have one suggestion though. Personally, I hate it when movies utilize both audio and visual flashbacks to moments earlier in the film or in previous films. I felt this pretty strongly in BotFA and I really think those moments are not needed. The audience has been paying attention, we can connect the dots. We don’t need to see Bilbo picking up the Arkenstone because when he pulls it out we can put together that he’s had it the whole time. We don’t need to hear Thorin remember Thranduil say “white gems of pure starlight.” We can just see Thorin pick them up after Thranduil mentions them to Bard. And I don’t think we need to hear Thorin say “I know an elf-lord who would like these” or whatever it is he says. He can just smirk and we get the idea. The only flashback that I think works is the audio flashbacks during Thorin’s descent into madness. Otherwise, your cut of the film is much stronger. There are still some moments with Legolas and Tauriel that I would cut (“there is no love in you”), but that’s more my personal preference. I really appreciate the work you’ve done these past two years and I thank you for helping me love these movies again. I look forward to watching the updated versions!
This comment’s long overdue; Chris sent me his cut of the trilogy almost a year ago and the amount of humility he has towars this project is to his credit. I remember watching each of these movies in theaters back in the day, and recall wishing that if they could only shake off the extra narrative weight they would capture the pacing and energy of the LotR films. These do.
Yes, YES, YES!! This is exactly what this trilogy needs. I love how you focus on exactly the right story elements and clear away the distractions to get to the heart of what worked in this trilogy. Excellent work! God bless you sir and you continued brilliance.
I just finished 'An Unexpected Journey' and it was bloody brilliant! Peter Jackson set the foundation, and Chris built onto it. I would highly recommend this to anyone left unsatisfied by the Hobbit trilogy, it can only get better from here! Not only is the story of the movie improved, but there is no out of the blue cuts or anything that made me think, "This has obviously been edited,"
I also loved how Chris still keeps parts of Peter's additions in, it helps the story flow and gives it just a little more flavor. Now I still respect the Hobbit for all it did, but wow, this is just so amazing.
Chris, as the dwarves would say, "May your beard grow ever longer!"
Just finished your edits of this trilogy Chris, and I'm absolutely blown away!
I watched with a group of friends, and already from the start, seeing that classic New Line logo appear on screen was a very good omen.
Honestly at points I felt like I was watching LotR, and I'm now so excited to watch these movies back to back with the original trilogy and have that impressive tonal consistency.
This was a very refreshing take on films that I've always loved but now can appreciate even more, and I can only just thank you so much for all your effort in putting it together! 🧙🏻♂️
I just finished watching the last movie of the trilogy.
Chris made an outstanding job 😮
It has really been a pleasure to watch. No needless points, his cut flows perfectly from one scene to another. Very very good job! Thanks for the passion and the effort, I could really feel it, and it was worth!
Recently watched the trilogy with my family, genuinely blown away. The movies just felt better to watch, by getting rid of all the distractions and side plots it set the focus on Bilbo and his journey. Finishing the trilogy felt rewarding. There were plenty of things that just felt more impactful in these cuts that I can't even begin to describe. I always was drawn to The Hobbit movies even with their problems and now seeing them in their peak condition is just wonderful. Thank you Chris for making these cuts.
Just finished all three of your edits. I'd like to thank you for sharing it because honestly it made me fall in love with the series all over again. By the end of it, I was using my pocket handkerchief to wipe my satisfied tears and longing to sign a contract of wondrous adventure. I must confess I grew apathetic to the original films when seeing them for the first time, primarily for their length and bloat, but after seeing your cuts, I've grown to appreciate them to such a degree that I would never have imagined before. Thank you so much for all your hard work!
All right, I just finished your cut of An Unexpected Journey and I've got to say, this is exactly the kind of stuff I've been looking for.
The removal of the B plot with the Necromancer lets the plot moving more smoothly and makes Bilbo and the dwarves's inner struggles clearer and more relatable (cf the departure from Rivendell, that's brillant editing right there).
Thank you for this, can't wait to see the rest.
Have en excellent day!
This warms my heart! Thanks for the encouraging words! _So_ thrilled that it worked for you!
Thank you. Chris Hartwell, your vision of how to "fix" the Hobbit trilogy is without a doubt the best there is. After searching far and wide, and seeing all the editions of this beloved world, yours truly gets to the core of what made them great in the first place.
Without a doubt in my mind, your edit must have been the one that introduced my family to the world of hobbits.
I assure you that everyone LOVES it!
Now, I tell you folks, who have not seen the edition. You are missing out on the best there is.
Farewell...
I am Daniel Olvera.
Just seen the Unexpected Journey cut. It’s genuinely brilliant. You’ve managed to make a decent film pretty damn near close to amazing by only really removing things and adjusting the chronology of scenes. Well done.
How did you see it?
saw
Where can you find all his cuts?
@@Jonnell01 email him with the adess in the description
Even though I absolutely love the Hobbit movies, even the distracting excess ;p I'm really interested in seeing your edits.
Also, I'm so glad we got another amazing score from Howard Shore, his music lifts these movies up to a whole new level.
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What? How do you absolutely love them? And as much as I love Howard Shore, there were SO many moments where the music just did NOT match what was happening on screen.
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I have watched the cut version and I must say. It thoroughly enhanced my experience.. The focus is so much better and thus the emotional beats hit a lot harder. I am planning on showing your edited version to my first time viewing friend with whom I only recently finished the LOTR trilogy.. I think your version is definitely better for a first watch/experience. I am looking forward to the other movies!
This brings me _such_ joy! So excited to hear that you'll get to share this cut with a _first time_ viewer! Thanks for spreading the love!
It's been a minute since Chris Hartwell sent me the edited movies, but I finally have a moment to comment. Personally, I loved the edited versions. Sometimes, I forgot I was watching his edited versions because of how seamless it all felt. There were one or two moments where things were a little awkward, but even so, they were almost unnoticeable. One thing I especially love is how much easier it is to watch the edited versions in one sitting. I love the original trilogy, but I struggled with it sometimes. I did not have this problem with this one, which is fantastic. I intend to go back to his versions whenever I feel like watching the movies.
I also pledged 20$ (USD) to his project on Kickstarter, and he sent me the extended versions of the edited films. Perhaps it's my love for The Hobbit making me biased, and perhaps it's my need to consume any and all Hobbit content I can, but I thought they were worth the price. The editing was also really well done and definitely made the Dol Guldur plotline palatable. Excellent stuff!
I saw you reached your goal on Kickstarter, Mr. Hartwell, and I just wanted to say congratulations! I hope everything continues to go well with your project!
Sincerely,
A Hobbit Fan :)
These are now my default preferred versions of these movies. Such seamless editing and massive improvements to pacing and color timing!
I just finished watching your 3 cuts.
It's been about 2 years since I last watched the extended cuts of Jackson's original Hobbit films and if somebody had have shown me your cuts today, without telling me they'd been edited, I would have said 'wow - these are a hell of a lot better than I'd remembered.'
Your editing is so seamless. I often forgot I was watching a fan edit at all. Everything in these new films never overstays their welcome. The Battle of the Five Armies is especially aided by your new cuts. It went from my absolute least favourite out of the original 3, to maybe my very favourite out of your 3... The time, passion and effort you've put into these projects cannot be understated and I applaud you for giving me (and so many others) the chance to reignite the love for these films that was previously hidden under a mask of convoluted side-plot and overstated whacky CGI fight scenes.
Thank you, my friend. Your work is just remarkable.
I just finished the Trilogy that Chris has edited and its been amazing. I highly recommend fans and sceptic newcomers to request a viewing of his hard work. I had a blast enjoying these movies for the first time since I watched The Hobbit was in theaters. Which, like many, left me feeling conflicted and dissatisfied to a point I thought I would never watch them again, to say the least.. but not anymore! The scenes are flawless to a point, you don't miss nor notice what was removed. He also made it more true to the books, given the scenes available. Thanks for all your hard work I will be directing some friends your way
Where can I watch it
@@pavan_kumar556 Email Chris and he will provide you with some links
@@NokMTG thehartbeatmail@gmail.com this is the email right?
@@pavan_kumar556 yes enjoy
Since I saw them I always had that feeling of wanting to cut out all the stuff I didnt like, because there was so much inbetween that I love. In general I think Im very likely to look past a mediocre or bad execution and enjoy what story is hidden underneath and just shined through in some moments. For me Batman v Superman and the Star Wars prequels fall into this category.
I think your cuts might be very different to what Id edit, but I got a lot of joy out of the way you talked about these movies and Im so excited to see someone approach them with the intention I had as well but actually act on it. Thank you very much for this and keep up the great work!
Excited to share!
Wow! I watched your cut last night and I have to say it feels pretty perfect. You really did this film a service by helping the audience to focus in on the most important parts of the story without all the distraction. I'm really impressed. This is a fantastic demonstration of what a good editor can accomplish. This version works in so many ways that the original edit did not. Thanks for this. Great job! Can't wait for the cuts of Part 2 and 3!
We had a small watch party and saw them all.
Let me just say: thank you. I have more words to cherish what you did there but those are the important ones.
Hey Chris! I just finished watching your cut of An Unexpected Journey and let me just say, it is incredible! Watching your BTS videos after the fact just goes to show how much effort and care you put into these cuts. Good editing is good when you don’t notice it; it’s the bad editing that’s easily noticed. Well, the edits you made with sound design and score are so seamless, they are like you say - invisible. Absolutely incredible. My biggest fear going into this was that because you mentioned in this video that you had cut the Galadriel, Saruman, Gandalf scene in Rivendell, that one of my fav lines of dialogue in the whole trilogy (when Gandalf explains “Saruman believes it is only power...”) wouldn’t be in your cut. But thankfully, you kept it in without it feeling awkward at all, and left me with tears in my eyes. Such a powerful scene and such a fantastic cut of the film. I’m looking forward to watching the next two films. Thank you so much!
I watched your cuts, Mr. Hartwell! I've seen a handful of fan edits before, and I think yours are the best. They flowed naturally! You made the right choice in keeping them as separate movies and honoring the fact that these are *movie adaptations*. Many fan edits are too streamlined and don't appreciate the little character moments and interactions. I also love how subtle your editing is. The way you removed the spoken word of "necromancer" from Galadriel's dialogue was so smooth I thought it was the original. I'm also a fan of how you presented Tauriel. She appeared as less of a pining elf girl and more of someone who was there to do good in her world out of compassion. She felt cooler in your edits.
Thank you for creating these cuts and sharing them with us! They're satisfying and will be how I enjoy The Hobbit trilogy from now on!
Goodness. This was the mostly beautiful youtube clip I've seen in ages! I cannot wait to see these edited films. You're so right Chris, the HEART of the book is there in these films, you just have to distill it from the bombast and noise. I eagerly await watching these edits in anyway they manage to make their way to the public forum.
Just finished the second re-edit. I have to say, they way you condensed the ending was masterful. Repurposing clips to cover up Smaug leaving the mountain covered in gold was particularly well done. Looking forward to the finale!
Thank you _so_ much! It was a real relief when I cracked that nut!
Just finished watching your edit of this trilogy and wow!
There was a great film buried underneath and I want to thank you for uncovering it 😊
Very enjoyable watch especially the 2nd and 3rd film
Great work on keeping and enhancing all the best aspects of this trilogy
Were you emailed them? If so, how long can I expect to wait? Very excited to watch these.
@@ellieporter3270 check the description drop down for the email
If you're interested in checking out these cuts of The Hobbit trilogy, just shoot me an email: thehartbeatmail@gmail.com
P.S. Yes, they're _still_ available :)
You're probably already aware of this, but in case you're not... Have you tried the Fanedit Info method?
Dropped you an email!
@@devilskind92 I was not, until now, aware of Fanedit Info! Thanks for the tip!
@@lukemartin8211 Got it, good sir!
Email sent as well. Sounds like a labor of love. Can't wait to see it!
These versions are simply great. The things that you have cut completely out that just aren't needed, the things that are tweeked to simply better tell the story and capture the essense of the book, just amazing work👏🏻 I never tought I would be able to enjoy these films in the long run because of waaay to much added nonsense(lovestory, stupid "humour" characters, dumb cgi cartoony action etc) that I feel ruined them, but now I finally can☺️👌🏻👍🏻
Just watched them. I can’t believe it, these cuts actually made me love Battle of the Five Armies. I didn’t think that was possible.
These are 100% the versions I’m going to be watching from now on.
We really enjoyed your edit of the first movie. We didn't really notice a difference which I think is good because it just worked. Looking forward to the other two which you had more significant changes.
Just watched your edit of the Hobbit, and absolutely loved it! As I was already a big fan of these movies, I must say, these cuts really highlighted my favorite elements, such as the relationship between Bilbo, and Thorin. I'm most likely only going to watch this version from gnow on. Thanks so much!
These cuts have to be the best thing that has happened to Tolkien fans in a *WHILE!*
After the years I've come to appreciate these movies more, but after this cuts, oh my lord, they're even better!
Just finished the third film and I have to say I agree with most of my fellow commenters: the improvement of the originals is impressive. I would rank the edits AUJ 8/10, TDOS 9/10, and TBOFA 7/10. Compared to other fan edit attempts, you stand out by making edits that still work as proper films. I particularly admire your cuts to the Kili/Tauriel plot line. It takes it from something unbearably cringy to an aspect of these films I actually enjoyed. A prime example of less is more.
Perhaps one of the only things I would personally change (this is purely for discussion, not a criticism of Chris’s edit) is I would take out the prologue at the start. I think it makes the scale of the story way too big way too fast. I think part of the charm of this story is how it starts out so small and quaint and slowly by slowly scales up to this full scale war. It also saves characters like Thorin and Thranduril for their epic reveals later.
Anyway, loved your work Chris. I’m thrilled to have versions of these films that feel like they flow naturally into the Lord of the Rings.
After a year of having this sitting on my PC, I finally watched it. From three bloated films I thought had promise you managed to create beautiful films that I would love to have on disc. What's more you turned the worst of the trilogy "The Battle of Five Armies" into my favourite.
Truly the work of a wizard.
So I just watched your cut! Thanks again for it! Its been a while since I last threw in my own bluray so the memory of the theatrical cut wasnt as fresh in mind and I hadnt seen the extended version before. Also english is not my mother tongue, so it was the first time hearing the original voices for me.
That out of the way, I was very invested and none of the originally distracting scenes were left to pull me out of the experience. Not to undersell your effort, the opposite really, it seemed so natural, not like anything was changed at all. I especially was surprised how much more it felt like a character study with occasional fantasy set pieces and of course world building and setting. Those scenes in Rivendell added so much to the whole arc of Bilbo as well as those of Gandalf and Thorin. But all in all there are just a lot of really, really great scenes and pieces of dialogue and acting in this one. Like the whole beginning, and the Balin callback and of course Gollum.
So far Ive always enjoyed the Silmarillion parts of this trilogy, but you already mentioned it here, that you cut those scenes out, so it didnt come as a disappointment to me. Again, tying into what I said about Rivendell, I think you handled Galadriel very well as an side character for Gandalfs storyline and he himself was nicely mysterious and thus expanding the world beyond the dwarves adventure in a different yet intriguing way.
There were some cuts, you made, I noticed because of the sound mainly, but I still have the movie very present despite not having seen it for a while and of course I was looking for your edits. In the first third or so I thought the sound was a little bit behind or too fast, I dont know, but that might have been on my part and I didnt notice it later on.
So yeah, again thank you so very much for doing this! Like I said in another comment, I always wanted to edit them myself and brush the dust off of this diamond. Now Im really interested in seeing what youve done with the other films, because I have the feeling they made it a bit harder for you. Although I must admit, that seemingly against the common opinion I enjoy the third movie a lot. Like until the point the dwarves around Thorin join the battle, for me its almost perfect, lotr levels perfect almost. Ill be sure to let you know, what I thought about your edit, once I get to see it ;)
I hope your well and keep it up! Wish you the best!
Thank you so much for the extremely generous comment! It's so very exciting to hear that this new cut it working for anyone other than me!
Being the perfectionist that I am though, I was bummed to hear that you found distracting audio issues! I don't _think_ the sync is off (though I will check), and I am curious where specifically the audio transitions weren't seamless. I put a lot of work into making them as invisible as I could and I would love to only further perfect things.
Thanks again for the support!
I just found a couple of crazy, little audio mistakes! I'm mortified! Thanks for helping me along!
@@ChrisHartwell No problem, happy I could help! Its these sounds that remained where you cut something, right? Or at least it sounded like someone starting to speak and being cut off, I thought.
As I am not a perfectionist at all that didnt really bother me and I couldnt imagine going back into the editor and working on these. Do you plan on doing so?
@@DerLaberheld Oh, yes! ;) Having already invested so much time into them, it just feels so unsatisfying _not_ having the best final product possible!
I just finished watching the first two movies, and I'm impressed. They don't feel edited. I've seen a few other fan edits, and this one is definately the smoothest and I only knew where the edits were because I'm familiar with the originals. (also I watched your behind the scenes) Excellent work:)
Hello, not a while ago I finished your extended trilogy, for the 4th time and I must say, this is the ULTIMATE way how to watch these movies. It perfectly keeps the heart of PJ's filmmaking, and Tolkien's Middle-Earth, not being 100 % faithful to the book, but I don't mind that much. You did excacly what theese movies needed to perfection. Cutting all of the anoying filler plot lines, reducing the overstreached cartoony CGI action, but still keep the emotional moments, heck you made them even better. And created Hobit trilogy that goes with LOTR trilogy, like a nice, fun, fairytale prequely trilogy, who I think perfectly introduces newcommers to Middle-Earth. And I love you for that, thank you.
Hello Chris! Just finished ALL of your edits and I just really wanted to thank you! I enjoyed all of them and had a blast watching them. Didn’t feel edited or cut, the pacing was just right and you made all the right decisions (although i wanted to see the dwarves introduced to the Beorn) but everything was brilliant! A huge congratulations to you for such an achievement! You edited them brilliantly and made me (a person who swore not to watch the movies, in order not to be disappointed) love your cuts and willing to rewatch them. Thank you again! 👏👏
Almost finished watching The Desolation of Smaug and I have to say - this is the best way to watch the Trilogy. It keeps all the heartful scenes - which the other cuts cut because of book inaccuracy - even though they added to the story and characters.
This cut understands that changes HAVE to be made when going from book to film.
Just trims the bloat perfectly and seamlessly presents this tale as it should have been presented.
Thank you!
my biggest gripe with either the original theatrical, original extended and these cuts are the white council/ dol goldur scenes. in the original and extended they are thrown in haphazardly. in these cuts they are gone. if they were a continuous thing in one place, it makes way more sense. id say after the escape from mirkwood is a perfect place and then we can stay with the dwarves for the rest of the film.
Every year around this time me and my friend group do a rewatch of the Lord of the Rings films. We’d been skipping the Hobbit in recent years just because they felt overly long and tonally not right. I’ve got to say though this edit is truly great and made me really enjoy watching these movies again. I’ll go through the movies real quick and lay out what I liked about this edit
An Unexpected Journey: this movie has the least changed about it and I think that it works very well as an introduction into the more consistent tone these edits bring. One thing my roommate did notice was that during the final confrontation with Azog the music is different from the theatrical versions of the film. The original music choice works there but doesn’t make sense in the context of the scene so this is actually one of those improvements that straight up makes the film better through the music, great work in regards to that.
Desolation of Smaug: now we start getting into where the trilogy had problems. But I can say this edit really fixed that, almost to an incredible extent. This movie is just so much more streamlined and consistent with its tone. There are some segments that are cut out completely and a first time viewer would never be able to notice. Hell, the one reason we even noticed was because we knew what segments had taken place originally. It’s that seamless.
Battle of Five Armies: the most improved of the three in my opinion. Pretty much all of the dumb action sequences are removed leaving us with the parts that really matter. It feels like a great conclusion that doesn’t take too long to come around. Really excellent work with maintaining the energetic action while simultaneously scaling it back to keep the stakes high. I’m also glad Thorin’s funeral was included, that was a scene I think is really important to have.
Overall I think this is a great fan edit that should really be necessary viewing for anyone who loves the cinematic world Jackson built for this story. I can’t stress enough just how good the actual editing talent is here. Like, the usage of certain shots to mask cuts while keeping a scene seamless is really quite incredible and never once took any of us out of the films aside from us going “oh yeah, there was a cut scene back there”. This never happened due to the edit but rather the fact we’d seen the theatrical and extended editions of the films before. Excellent work and I can say with confidence that these will be the versions we watch going forwards!
I loved the Hobbit book. I'm not as fond of the movie version as I was the Lord of the Rings, but I can see the hidden gem moments in the Hobbit. Thank you for pointing those gem moments out and fir reminding the audience about why we live these types of stories so much.
Of course! It was _genuinely_ a joy!
If you've not done so already, feel free to message (email address in the description) and I can actually send you my cuts of the films!
You’ve done a great job with these cuts, probably the only fan-edit I’ve seen that does not feel choppy or amateurish.
Interesting. I would've kept the white council because thats extra lore stuff that I enjoy, even some of the minor stuff but I agree: Tauriel and Alfred had to go. Radagast? I don't know. I would've like to have seen the other wizards besides Saruman and Gandalf.
That's why I left them in my _Extended Edition_ ;)
@@ChrisHartwell wait wait wait, you left those in but did you keep out alfred and tauriel? if so email that to me ASAP. sent you one just now
These edits were brilliant! It's amazing how much more cohesive and powerful these films become after a little judicious trimming. I now own three original-cut movies of the trilogy that I will never watch again.
I still would prefer cutting out the storm giant scene and re edit it to make it seem like Bilbo slip and fall off like M4 did.
Finished the whole trilogy. Absolutely a dream come true seeing what I consider to be the best way to re edit these films: with Peter Jackson's vision intact. It's almost like three acts as opposed to 3 films which also lends to feeling more of a faithful adaptation. I'll be adding these to my lord of the rings marathons, they're just as they should have been: A trilogy worthy of classic status! Well done!
Wow. . .just wow! I knew there was a great movie buried in there somewhere, and you've proven it. My family and I enjoyed this immensely, in our opinion, the careful editing elevated The Hobbit in line with the LOTR films. Great job cutting out the distractions, and adding in canon scenes that had been deleted in the original release. I didn't realize they had actually filmed the scene where Gandalf and Bilbo introduced the dwarves to Beorn, one of my favorite passages in the book, what a treasure! Delightful to see Legolas in a cameo : ) With the story more in focus, it's a well-told, beautiful rendition of a beloved book. Can't help thinking Tolkien himself would have approved.
Watched these cuts in a single sitting and I have to say that I'm very impressed. Of all the fan edits I've seen, these are the best ones and I can't really see a way these could be significantly improved. Other fan edits try to cut out too much and as such don't flow well as movies. You knew how to 'pick your battles,' so to speak. You knew what to cut and what not to cut in order to keep proper pacing and coherence. As an aspiring film editor myself, I found these cuts to be very skillful and inspired.
All the films were greatly improved and I was most impressed with The Battle of the Five Armies as it was always my least favorite of the trilogy but watching your version revealed a great film that I had not previously noticed under all the bloat of the original version. I even learned to appreciate some of the sillier aspects of these films now that the overall level of silliness had been toned down. The tighter runtime and narrative focus also reveal a more fun and lighthearted experience that actually contrasts well with the sprawling epicness of The Lord of the Rings-trilogy.
You have given me a great gift with these edits as I can finally accept these films as part of a 6-film series that I can enjoy without reservations.
I don't know if you are still interested in doing a similar edit of Peter Jackson's King Kong but I for one would absolutely love to see it. I think you could do that film justice. I always felt that it was a good movie that could be a great movie if only it were about 20 to 30 minutes shorter. Whatever you decide to do in the future, I wish you luck, and I thank you for the brilliant work you have done here!
Thank you so much for sharing such generous and eloquent feedback! It sincerely means a lot.
I do have hopes to (one day) do a "shaved down" cut of Jackson's _King Kong_ and... perhaps _Zack Snyder's Justice League_ as well! :)
Part One was excellent, very tightly paced and focused. Even with the cuts to the action there is still plenty. The added scenes add some nice character development.
Part Two I had mixed feelings about the old ending but great job on the new one! You fixed it better than I could've imagined, it's pretty much perfect now, literally correcting every issue I had. Removing the shot of Smaug crashing through the gate fixes the continuity issue and I feel there is plenty there to imply what happened without having to see it. The tighter focus definitely helps improve the pacing and makes it feel more inline with the first film. Whereas the original cut was drowning in subplots.
I'm very excited for the final entry.
_Extremely_ pleased to hear that it worked for you and _SO_ excited to share Part III
@@ChrisHartwell I had another thought. I actually think in the end it's more effective to not see Smaug exit Erebor. We hear it, see the characters in Lake Town react and in that moment we know as much as they do about what's happening. It creates a nice feeling of suspense. When we cut back to Smaug and he's airborne closing in on Lake TownI feel that shot hits that much harder and creates a feeling of dread I didn't feel in the theatrical cut.
@@xJusteBx Haha! I feel the _exact_ same way! ua-cam.com/video/Pn0gwC_q8Nw/v-deo.html
@@ChrisHartwell Whooa that is so cool! Legit had the same thoughts haha. And yeah props for relying on sound to communicate that event, that was a really creative way to not only solve the issue but elevate the scene.
@@xJusteBx Great minds think alike ;)
Your description of the edit alone has got me hyped to watch it. Agree 100% with your thought process. Although I was disappointed by the hobbit trilogy it did have some fantastic scenes. Have sent you an email, look forward to giving these films a watch!
So, i just watched this cut and i have to say: BRAVO!
To me it is the best cut out there of the movies, not because it's "closer" to the books, but because it works great as a trilogy! I loved that you kept a simple explanation of why did Gandalf leaves the company in the begining of the first movie and you used as the "prologue" scene in the third. Even though i don't like the scenes with Tauriel and Legolas in the original movies, i think that you made it work in the cut!
You did an amazing job!
Just rewatched your edits, and one thing that really stood out to me was your handling of the Dol Guldur subplot. That might be the most intelligent way I've ever seen an editor approach that material. By not revealing Sauron, it feels so much better. The mystery is preserved and LotR viewers would still understand the subtext of it being Sauron. That was just phenomenal editing that I never would have thought of myself. I'm so glad to see how much appreciation your cuts of the films have received. Thank you for all your hard work and passion!
Maybe the real Arkenstone was the friends we made along the way.
I have watched an unexpected journey now and it was great. Everything went together so much better and the story was much more focused. It was like that was how the film was meant to be. In fact I can barely remember what the changes were because this just seems like the real movie. Bravo, sir
These were great! Thank you for your work. These are now my definitive editions of the films. I love how you made me LIKE the characters of both Thorin and Kili. These two I found to be hard to follow in motivation and a tad irritating. Your getting us from one character beat to the next without distraction and delay really made these characters more digestible and relatable. In terms of Kili and Tauriel, less is definitely more. I actually appreciated their attraction that revealed itself by pulling back on things (not full blown romance like in the original films). Well done good sir. Cannot wait to watch the extended editions.
I just finished your cut of these films; and I just wanted to say that I genuinely enjoyed them!! I remember being so disappointed when the battle of the five armies came out. I’ve only ever seen these once, but I would absolutely rewatch your cuts many times over. The Kili and Tauriel arc in particular was MUCH improved. Thank you for some truly great work!
After watching these cuts I have a new found appreciation for these movies and what they were trying to convey, thank you for making them!
YES! This brings warm feelings to my heart!
Thank you so much for making and sharing these! I have just finished Botfa and the whole story just felt more like one continuous adventure and was less jarring than the original cuts. Although I have the originals on DVD I think I’ll be returning to these edits in future :)
_TRULY_ wonderful to hear! So happy that these new cuts have enabled you to more fully enjoy this wonderful universe :D
Just watched your cut of the first film, and I have to say that I loved it. No longer is the hobbit riddled with strings of side plots trying to tie it to the lord of the rings, but rather what it could've been, a story of Bilbo and his journey. And even though you didn't cut as much of the first film as you say you have of the rest of the films I still felt much closer to the story, and the beats of the story were clearer. Having watched the films in the theaters, and half a dozen times at home this viewing felt fresh and new even with the relatively slight changes shifting focus from a couple narratives to only one. Thank you Chris for this amazing experience, and can't wait for your cut of the second and third film!
Risto H.
_SO_ elated to hear that you enjoyed the 1st film and _SO_ excited to share the 2nd and 3rd!
Just donated. Thank you Christoffer. I thoroughly enjoyed my time with the first film. Looking forward to the next ones. Not to mention the extended verions. Again, Thank you VERY much for this.
You are most welcome! And thank _you_ for your generous support!
Immediate Response from him, can't wait to watch. My fiancé and I just finished the theatrical cuts, and had hour long discussions after each one about how there is a great movie in there.
Ok, so I just got done with your edit, and I want to start off by saying thank you! This must have taken a crazy amount of time and effort to accomplish, and then giving it to us to enjoy is super super generous. It's almost kind of unprecedented. I almost feel like I had homework given to me by a UA-cam creator (I mean that in the best way possible!), and it was my duty watch it, and try and understand the film on a deeper level. If you are not a film instructor on a collegiate level, you certainly could be one, I am sure🙂
Before I start on my thoughts of your edit, I just want to preface, that I was indeed not a huge fan of The Hobbit trilogy, and only made it through the first one. Reasons mostly being the overly busy and heavy handed use of green screen, and all of the distracting moments of unnecessary exposition. Of course, I know nothing can be done about the CGI, but I am 100% willing to give this series another shot, if much of the fat could be trimmed. And I genuinely feel like you have succeeded in doing just that, Chris.
First off, I think I have to now re-watch the original, because the edits you made were on point. Super seamless. The movie felt on point and fluid the whole way through. The only part I was slightly confused about during the whole movie was where Gandalf went after the Dwarves left Rivendale, coming back, seemingly out of nowhere, to help fight the Goblins. Good chance I may have just missed something, and need to rewatch both the original _and_ the edit again, though.
I also really appreciated that you made it feel much more like a story focused on Bilbo and Thorin. As you mentioned in your UA-cam video (had to re-watch that _too_ to help me figure out what you cut-- the edit was that good), that part with where Thorin finally seems to accept Bilbo after the Frying Pan scenes, was especially impactful.
Through and through, you managed to cut out stuff without taking away anything at all from the story. On the contrary- it often added to the overall emotion of the film. Can't believe you managed to cut out a whole 40 minutes of the movie. I am by no means in anyway any sort of film creator/maker, but I do try my best to understand the process of film making to better appreciate the art of what it takes to make the film, and understand that what you did here, was pretty damn impressive. You certainly brought new life to this film. Kudos man. And, again, thank you, so much for sharing it with us!!
Hopefully the media host works out for the long run (not familiar with how they do things..) and they'll let you get the other 2 films uploaded with no problems. Sorry, for the SUPER long comment, lol. Cheers man, and take care😀
A _genuinely_ pleasure reading about all your thoughts/reactions!
Just briefly address your confusion over "where Gandalf went after the Dwarves left Rivendale, coming back, seemingly out of nowhere, to help fight the Goblins"... this is actually something neither answered in the original cut nor in the book itself. The character is just presented as this very enigmatic and mysterious individual - "a wizard who does what he likes" :)
@@ChrisHartwell Ah, ok! Don't feel as dumb now, haha. I guess on top of re-watching the original take I should also consider reading the books. Thanks again, Chris! This has been really fun:)
Just finished them; they were incredible. Your editing down in these films allowed me to appreciate the work Jackson and his crew did with these films much more as it allows the acting, directing, camerawork and action to shine all the more when not bogged down with the excess that is found on the original cuts. Your incredible editing work made it so the films were not only more entertaining; but it also brought forth the emotion that can be found within these films as I was more exposed to the relationship of the two leads. It was a very fun watch and I recommend it to any fan of The Lord of the Rings and Tolkien’s works.
Gotta say, I watched the extended cuts the first time and couldn't remember a thing from them. This time around I was much more mesmerized, it changed my opinions on the trilogy all together, so thanks and good job.
Fantastic! I did feel the originals felt bloated, and now having watched your edit I do feel you have trimmed the film to be more of an emotional journey than I experienced when I saw Unxpected Journey upon its release. I applaud your motivation to do this and your respect for the original source material and films. You have enhanced the Hobbit Trilogy from my perspective, not detracted from what has gone before. And I now have a deeper appreciation for what Peter Jackson sought to achieve. Thanks
Its genuinely incredible how much my viewing pleasure is increased by such seemingly simple changes
Coming back to this again and still loving the edits. Incredibly well done and well thought out.
Just watched your cut of An Unexpected Journey. Obviously this one had a lot less changed than the others, but I can say one thing: whatever you did in specific, it was consistently enjoyable for the entire 2 and a half hour runtime. Excited to see the other two :-)
Thanks so much for watching and I too look forward to you watching parts 2 and 3!
@@ChrisHartwell I didn't expect the Hobbit to make me cry :'-) i think in the sea of criticism i forgot what lovely films they are. thank you so much for bringing that heart to the surface!
@@simoneprobably Aw, this is so wonderful to read. Part 3 now brings a few tears to my eyes as well!
Finished watching all 3 of your extended versions and I have to say these will be my definitive movie versions of the Hobbit. Can't wait to watch with my kids. Seamless changes and great pacing. Bravo
Really enjoyed it, it flowed so much more, alot more engaing than the orignal one. A fantastic job. Thank you for allowing me to experience this. Just finished watching Lord of the Rings with my little sister, her first time seeing the movies, we went straight for the extended edition and she loved it. So the hobbit was the next thing she wanted to see but I was not about to sit down and watch those movies again as they feel so dragged out, but now im in. Cant wait for the next two.
It truly *warms my heart* hearing that you'll be sharing it with your younger sister for her first viewing! Hope you both enjoy!
I just found your intros to your edits of these movies. Looking forward to being able to watch them!
After watching all three cuts I am glad to say I can finally fully enjoy the Hobbit movies as I have been wanting to for a long time. I am very impressed with the choices and edits you made and I hope more people get to experience these cuts. It seems the closest to my good memories of watching the movies in theatres when they first came out, it really brings out the best of them, amazing work!
Where did you watch it my friend?
As requested, my thoughts on your work. You've done a better job of making a fan-fix than any others I've seen. Bravo, Chris.
My only complaint is a minor one: you got rid of Galadriel's most badass scene. I was fond of it, but you really did understand these films better than anyone else I've known or spoken to about them. Topher Grace did an edit, others have too with the intent of sticking to the book. The films you found in what was made? I prefer them to the book, because it and the originals had something the book didn't: Bilbo's character arc and growth as a person. An actual emotional impact that almost made me cry, thanks to his wonderful friendship with Thorin and the others. Why Tolkien didn't include any of that, when writing the Hobbit.... we'll never know. But this was far better than a homestuck bookworm going on a trip and becoming... a slightly richer homestuck bookworm.
I hope one day that Jackson and his team sees this edit.
Oh, yes. Two other mild complaints: could've cut out the Dune Worms and the bit where Thorin watches Azog as he floats away. Dune Worms are an instant game over in the battle, Thorin watching Azog drift away takes away from the surprise of him not being dead yet. Still, only three minor complaints.
You're pretty good.
Thank you for the thoughts! And don't fret, "Galadriel's most badass scene" is still in my Extended Cuts :)
This was great, just watched them with the family today and we enjoyed the movie cuts. I have to admit I barely noticed what was missing or changed, you did a great job making a seamless transition.
Personally, I think the inclusion of Dol Guldur is a good one. In the book, Gandalf buggers off to deal with a necromancer outside of murkwood and returns at the very end. No comment at all.
Even Azog The Goblin King gets mentioned with only a small footnote in the book, and I believe his addition to the story is quite good.
Indeed! That's why I left Dol Guldur in my _Extended Edition_ Cut and Azog in both my _Theatrical_ and _Extended_ cuts :)
Well done! It's been a while since I've seen the originals but I remember they were overly long whereas Unexpected Journey, while it could be shorter, certainly feels like a complete, cohesive, enjoyable movie, with a feeling that things are always moving along. The best compliment I can think of is, if you haven't seen the original in a while, these films don't feel like anything is missing. All the important bits are there, it's always moving, it's tighter, and it doesn't feel overly long. Again, great edits!
Amazing edits of the films! The definition of “less is more”. It was a fun exercise trying to find out when you made a cut or an edit.
Just got to watch Part 1. You did a wonderful job! The pacing was excellent; not at all choppy. It´s been some time since I watched the original. I was suprised you took off over half an hour because it didn´t seem like anything important was missing.
Maybe the film has overall grown on me over time, but scenes I once found kinda silly felt way better in this cut, some even triumphant.
Very exited for part two!
I have just finished watching all 2 cuts and jesus christ that was amazing, i dont know how you did it but i felt every emotion we were meant to feel but didnt because of hte clutter. i dont know if its the pacing or the editing or the fact i was more open minded when watching it or all of them but this was truely incredible, thank you so much. the story was just as good as the books. my only complaint is some scenes felt almost too bright, not sure if that was in the original but with gollum and bilbo it looked like they were outside, i felt it kinda took away from the poor living conditions of gollum, but thats my only complaint, in the whole thing. thanks again =)
I watched your edit of the films this week, and I'm very impressed. I didn't remember these films too fondly, but what you turned them into (especially film 3) was nothing short of amazing!
😭 < those are tears of joy!
It sincerely brings _so_ much happiness to my heart to read this! For people to love these films as much as they deserve has ever been by _primary_ aim! So happy that they're working that much better for you!
If you're so obliged, share this video essay around so we can continue to spread the goodness :)
I enjoyed the trimmed versions of these films - and the focused edits show that there are a lot of good material in the original films. Unfortunately the bloated aspect of some of the material and the inclusion of non-Hobbit material made them a target of fans and non-fans alike (either because of not sticking to the source material or because of longer movies having issues with pacing and engagement). These edits did fix a number of those issues. Thank you for creating these. It would be interesting to see Jackson’s Hobbit edit - an edit that only covered material from the book, and incorporated materials from all versions of the movies, plus content not previously seen.
As a bit of a Hobbit defender, it's so great seeing someone highlight that all these films really need is a re edit. Absolutely cannot wait to watch these cuts!
Great Video!
I remember watching these movies in the theatres and felt like I was watching the extended editions already! Can't wait to check these out. I always sort of felt there was a perfect little movie inside these films, will let you know what I think!
Let me preface by saying, I've watched fan edits of the Hobbit before, but I've never before been so utterly satisfied. Not to put down other editors, but what a lot of them didn't understand was that the core of the hobbit trilogy is no longer what it is in the book- it is, as you said in this video, about Bilbo and Thorin understanding themselves and each other, and in trying to stay faithful to the book(as I've seen many cuts try to do), they no longer do the movie itself justice.
I just wanted to thank you for making me fall in love with this world again. While watching your cuts I could actually feel your love for this story too, as well as PJ's, and it makes me wish so deeply that this core of the story was what we had gotten in the first place. How great it could have been if all that extra screen time could have been given to Bilbo/Thorin and the dwarves?
One particular thing I wanted to mention- I love what you did with Kili/Tauriel. I've not seen their lines edited out in such a way before, as most people just edited them out entirely, and I felt it was brilliant. Their story goes from being cheesy to a little sad, because now we don't feel like we should mourn an 'epic' love story, but rather the potential of two young people together.
This brings a great deal of joy to my heart to read! Thank you so much! Utterly elated that you enjoyed :D
TL;TR:
This is a great version of The Hobbit movies for both a first time viewer, as well as anyone that has watched them before. Especially if you want to watch the story of the Dwarves and the Hobbit without any of the LotR plot lines and references. It's definatelly an experience worth having regadless of whether you love or hate this trilogy, because Chris brings us a new, more polished and focused perspective on this story. I definatelly recommend shooting him an email to watch his version of the trilogy.
I just finished the films yesterday. I was very satisfied by the final result and it was interesting seeing the videos where you broke down all of the changes you made.
I find it wise that you kept movies separate. When the distracting elements are removed, while the original structure of each movie as a separate entity is not disregarded, the story becomes more affective and memorable.
I was surprised by the amount of stuff that stayed in. This goes to show how much work you put into trimming and stitching in order to keep most of the set pieces, while not letting them drag the story down.
Apart from the action, what really benefited from the changes were the story and the characters. The story really did feel more centered around Bilbo, Thorin and the company.
Needless to say that I appreciated what you did with Alfrid [honestly you need a statue for that], as well as how you handled Kili and Tauriel. To my surprise, I came to really care about these two. Their interactions were kept subtle and always felt genuine and natural. On the same note, I found myself enjoying Legolas every time he was on screen, since we got him sparingly and he didn't interrupt important moments [aaand we didn't get the romantic triangle. Honestly, this made his friendship and loyalty to Tauriel so much better]. It also goes without saying that including the deleted scenes which mostly revolved around Bilbo, was a really good choice.
[Edit]: I removed the personal criticisms I had for your cut. When it comes down to it, everyone's taste is different and subjective.
This version of the trilogy was a huge emotional roller coaster, in the best way possible. The climax and the ending hit me so much harder and will probably stick with me longer than any other big franchise's ending I've seen in the past few years - and there have been quite a few. Perhaps it's because I haven't watched these movies in a good while and now I went through them in the course of one week, instead of binging them. That gave them room to breathe and I thought about them for more than I would have, had I watched them more spaced out. But ultimately, I believe it's because these movies are full of heart, just like the people that made them. Along with that, the love and effort you put into the trilogy is very visible.
Thank you for sharing that with us!
thanks again for sharing your cuts with me. I can't wait to watch them this month. hoping to watch them with my wife and kids over Xmas break.
The _perfect_ time of year to watch Middle Earth movies!!
Wow, amazing! Quality is top notch. I hadn't seen the originals since their initial release so I could barely remember what was cut and since the editing was so professional it felt like so smooth. Amazing how some skillfull editing can unveil an awesome trilogy! Nothing can touch the LOTR trilogy but this is a pretty darn good trilogy on its own. Thank you Chris for allowing me to enjoy the Hobbit story again!!
You've completely sold me on the Hobbit as diamonds in the rough. Truly wish I could see this cut version. You made me want to see three movies I've not thought of revisiting ever.
Awesome! Just shoot me a message - email in the description - and I'll send them over for you to watch :)
Chris these cuts are fantastic! They're my preferred way of watching the films now. The pacing you've achieved is much better than that of the original films. I just got your Extended Cuts and I'm very much looking forward to seeing what you've added. Cheers man!
YAY! So happy to hear that!
I can't wait for you to see the extra content found in those extended cuts too - especially for Middle Earth nerds, the added scenes are a real joy to experience!