Actions Abby Still Thinks were Justified //Uncovered S4E4

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  • @SleepyKiwi73
    @SleepyKiwi73 2 роки тому +2591

    The fact that Gianna stands by and condones Abby’s actions makes me look at her just as sideways as her boss.

    • @jmuller24
      @jmuller24 2 роки тому +277

      Yeah I can't stand Gianna honestly.

    • @geral096
      @geral096 2 роки тому +372

      She is a abuser too, remenber Cristy said she give abby a hi five when abby told chloe to "fix her eye"

    • @nevermindmyname813
      @nevermindmyname813 2 роки тому +103

      Yup, cannot stand Gianna

    • @user-ml9bu9tp2j
      @user-ml9bu9tp2j 2 роки тому +12

      @@geral096 giving a high five to someone is not abuse for someone else...

    • @nicoleelizabeth2253
      @nicoleelizabeth2253 2 роки тому +216

      @@user-ml9bu9tp2j what abby said was abusive and by G high giving her it was showing that she was in support of that abuse. she was not directly an abuser but she was just as prevalent in how the abuse was accepted and allowed in the studio

  • @melissashilkoff
    @melissashilkoff 2 роки тому +1725

    It's disgusting that she's taking credit for Paige's confidence

    • @mimiray7836
      @mimiray7836 2 роки тому +206

      Right? She did the opposite, she crashed every ounce of confidence that poor kid had!

    • @daisychainsdm
      @daisychainsdm 2 роки тому +99

      For real! Like Paige's confidence went down due to Abby!

    • @stephaniesilnieks8651
      @stephaniesilnieks8651 2 роки тому +143

      Paige has confidence now DESPITE Abby not because of her

    • @melissashilkoff
      @melissashilkoff 2 роки тому +16

      @@stephaniesilnieks8651 Exactly!!

    • @choloyolo8522
      @choloyolo8522 2 роки тому +38

      Throwing a chair does NOT build confidence

  • @mimiray7836
    @mimiray7836 2 роки тому +872

    Abby’s reaction to Maddie’s Cosmopolitan interview says enough about her character and how she hasn’t changed.. she will always play the victim and not realize (or just not address) how toxic she was to those kids. If EVERY OG doesn’t talk to her and even guest dancers have bad experiences, that says something about Abby. Not the dancers.

    • @faariam5977
      @faariam5977 2 роки тому

      What was her reaction?

    • @kimberleyharris8300
      @kimberleyharris8300 2 роки тому +13

      @@faariam5977 she made a whole video about it on her channel.

    • @missymani
      @missymani 2 роки тому

      She is not just Tóxica, she is a straight up abuser.

    • @seboramickey799
      @seboramickey799 Рік тому +2

      Exactly. She’ll never change!

  • @sugarysweet5674
    @sugarysweet5674 2 роки тому +1278

    Abby is a fascinating case study in overt narcissism. She's actually a textbook case and her delusions of grandeur are amusing. It's interesting with narcs however how they lose their power as they age. We're definitely seeing her lose her grip on the power she once had - and now she's grasping at straws to stay relevant despite all these girls having moved on. Very interesting indeed.

    • @geral096
      @geral096 2 роки тому +69

      I though i as the only one who realize she was a narcicist

    • @annagracedamico
      @annagracedamico 2 роки тому +6

      YES YES THIS.

    • @abigailbrannon9890
      @abigailbrannon9890 2 роки тому

      I've said that shes a narcissist as well.

    • @emily9695
      @emily9695 2 роки тому +28

      I remember like 2 years ago I was interested in what exactly narcissism was so I googled it out of curiosity and one of the top traits was over exaggerating achievements and I immediately thought of Abby

    • @melt2947
      @melt2947 Рік тому +11

      Yes, she should donate her brain to Science. Shipped straight to Vienna. Hard core and old school psychs.

  • @fleo479
    @fleo479 2 роки тому +811

    Paige developed severe anxiety and was in therapy for years, because of Abby's abuse.
    This woman is nothing but a narcissist and child abuser. Who will never own up to her mistakes, not even when death stares her in the face.

    • @bernicesmith1173
      @bernicesmith1173 2 роки тому +3

      💯💯!!!👍🏾

    • @emmyjo720
      @emmyjo720 2 роки тому +66

      Chloe had an eating disorder, Paige has anxiety, Brooke had a back injury which she was expected to ignore. Maddie and Kenzie both look depressed and anxious.

    • @jayceannapalmer3841
      @jayceannapalmer3841 2 роки тому

      @@emmyjo720 and Nia was a victim of racism and bullying

    • @Mia_M
      @Mia_M 2 роки тому +9

      @@emmyjo720 I believe Kenzie had an ed as well.

    • @carrieking1558
      @carrieking1558 Рік тому +7

      Maddie and MacKenzie had a stage mother who did not stop. Mackenzie plain said she didn't want to dance in the audition for Lux's video. Melissa and Abbey hammered at her until she did it.Maddie was sick and Melissa and Abbey would 'nt let her go. It goes on and on the main thing about all these girls is they never got any freedom by themselves
      . Mom was always there.

  • @berrisfueller6221
    @berrisfueller6221 2 роки тому +789

    Abby claiming she never hated Chloe…Let’s not forget the bts facts about her intentionally making Chloe and Christi’s lives a living hell, when they couldn’t leave the show in season 4. Total bs, on Abby’s part. She is a terrible human being, and Gianna has enabled her toxic behavior.

    • @daisychainsdm
      @daisychainsdm 2 роки тому +78

      Ikr! What she's indirectly saying is
      " I didn't hate Chloe, I just hated each aspect of her, and did everything I could to make her life as hard as possible when she was young"

    • @berrisfueller6221
      @berrisfueller6221 2 роки тому +31

      @@daisychainsdm There is no way Abby could convince people otherwise. I notice she kept bringing up “appearance matters!”, and talking about being on stage. That may be true, of course. But anytime she would respond to the facts about her making fun of her dancers, she would bring that up. Abby just doesn’t get it…It is no excuse to body shame or judge her dancers!

    • @sytaelf
      @sytaelf 2 роки тому +13

      I don't think she ever truly hated Chloe because if you go back to earlier seasons she did have a good relationship with her. Like when Chloe wanted to quit dance in season 1. I honestly think her hatred towards Christy made her just go out of her way to be cruel to Chloe kinda like how she was with Brooke and Paige because she couldn't stand Kellie. Also it seems Abby doesn't think before she talks which is no excuse for behavior.

    • @jennaebradshaw1308
      @jennaebradshaw1308 2 роки тому +31

      @@sytaelf no she definitely did not like Chloe because she thought her parents were raising her to think money is more important dance which contradicts why she then allowed Maddie to take jobs outside the show as well as supporting Jojo leaving the show. She made it publicly known right before s2 that she would say any and everything to get them to leave.

    • @berrisfueller6221
      @berrisfueller6221 2 роки тому +12

      @@sytaelf I mean, that’s a fair point. But it just seems like she would often have something out for her, even if Christi wasn’t necessarily involved. Especially with the whole competitiveness, and I’m talking about the toxic EXTENT she would go to.

  • @caseyjennings7420
    @caseyjennings7420 2 роки тому +1578

    Abby was absolutely horrible to those kids and personally I don’t think she’ll ever understand the negative impact she had on most of her students including maddie , she constantly put a tremendous amount of pressure on that kid to win 😢 and the way she spoke to Paige was disgusting she literally bullied that poor girl it’s irritates me how people IDOLISE this women

    • @marvincorre4783
      @marvincorre4783 2 роки тому +97

      She does understand and knows that the girls were traumatized by her words but she doesn't care which proves how she is a narcissistic sociopath.

    • @geral096
      @geral096 2 роки тому

      I am nearly sure she is narcicist, she acts like one all the time, she manipulate orhers and when people point out she acts like the victim, she literally abuse those children and she gets mad because they don't talk to her and says they are ungratefull, she says she was "disappointed" of Maddie, she likes to be the center of attention all the time, she calls herdelf "one of the best teacher in America" and i could go on and on pointing out narcicistics antions. What saddens me the most is some of the moms ( i mean lily's mom) she is a psychologist, i refused to think she doesn't know Abby acts like a narcicist it is pretty obvious and she still go and makes her daughter go through that, no amuont of money or fame is worth for your childs mental health

    • @us3rk1t30
      @us3rk1t30 2 роки тому +8

      @@marvincorre4783 fr

    • @psychxmania
      @psychxmania 2 роки тому +7

      exactly :((

    • @alyssakellander3874
      @alyssakellander3874 2 роки тому +27

      i felt so bad for maddie in season3 where abby manipulated in episode 5

  • @GoofyGooberMars
    @GoofyGooberMars 2 роки тому +1056

    it still sucks that people don't realize how horrible she actually is 😭😭😭

  • @polevaultgirl33
    @polevaultgirl33 2 роки тому +462

    Gianna was just as bad as Abby. She saw what Abby was doing, allowed it to happen, and then continued to justify her behavior to this day.

    • @emmyjo720
      @emmyjo720 2 роки тому +33

      I always thought that, Gianna backs up Abby, she was very nasty to Kenzie or Kendall for not being as good as Maddie.

    • @soulofhoneymoon
      @soulofhoneymoon 2 роки тому +28

      I think Christi said something about Gia like how she is two faced but Jojo joined in an said that Gia wasn't like that but Christi personally knew Gia longer than Jojo

    • @cherryblossom7120
      @cherryblossom7120 2 роки тому +12

      She's abby's attack dog.

    • @shaehoward4793
      @shaehoward4793 2 роки тому +5

      She could just be trying to keep her job because there probably aren’t many job opportunities for her. The entire world saw her backing up a abusive and bigoted teacher for years.

  • @berrisfueller6221
    @berrisfueller6221 2 роки тому +447

    Abby clearly doesn’t understand the difference between constructive criticism (and tough love) and bullying. She just sees it as like a mesh.

    • @avatiede1512
      @avatiede1512 Рік тому +12

      To add to that, you can give constructive criticism without being mean.

  • @dreammaster495
    @dreammaster495 2 роки тому +571

    is Abby really trying to convince us she didn't hate Chloe? I will never believe that.

    • @sytaelf
      @sytaelf 2 роки тому +29

      I don't think she truly hated Chloe because she does say nice things about her. I think it boils down to she just hated Christy so much that she took it out on Chloe. Kinda like she did with Brooke and Paige because of her feelings for Kellie. It is wrong either way but I also think Abby doesn't think before she speaks

    • @madadadaddie
      @madadadaddie 2 роки тому +66

      she literally said in season 8 she never wanted chloe to win, she said that proudly. truly gross behavior

    • @hrts4dlm
      @hrts4dlm 2 роки тому +44

      @@sytaelf no actually she does hate Chloe she insulted her appearance and refused to use her name in one episode so if that doesn't say she doesn't like her idk what will

    • @corimoon3360
      @corimoon3360 2 роки тому +45

      She also always tried to paint Chloe in a negative light. Like insinuating that she’s a promiscuous, jealous, backstabbing, evil person when she was the exact opposite. She hated Chloe. You can argue that maybe she didn’t always hate her or maybe she didn’t hate her as much early on… but she definitely hated her. The evil things that she did and said when it came to that little girl (sometimes UNPROVOKED by Christi) were definitely personal and seemed like she had something against Chloe herself. Sometimes Christi didn’t have to even do or say anything and Abby would still be at Chloe’s neck. She had it out for that child.
      Also Abby is huge faker. She admitted to the judges (in a very bragging way) that she can go back and pretend to be happy for Chloe for winning first and beating Kamryn because she’s that great of an actress. The judge actually revealed this in an interview, (and I’m so glad the judges didn’t listen to her and take Chloe’s win away). So now I have a hard time trusting and believing she genuinely meant all those nice things she’s ever said about Chloe (even if those nice things were true) or any other nice moments she’s ever had with her. I question every nice moment now bc who knows if she was faking or not? She bragged about how good of a faker she is… Saying nice things about someone doesn’t mean you don’t hate them. Especially when your actions (and other negative words that are spoken much more often) don’t match with your spoken-once-every-blue-moon positive words.

    • @soulofhoneymoon
      @soulofhoneymoon 2 роки тому +17

      She also said that she hated the way Chloe was being brought up by Christi and her dad, it was like she had to have an input in all of their lives and that they had to listen to her

  • @amazinggraciegurl
    @amazinggraciegurl 2 роки тому +257

    It's absolutely insane what a narcissist Abby is. "I changed Paige's life by making her stand up to Anthony. I bet she stands up for herself now because of me." "JoJo is so successful and sells out shows because I was mean to her." Literally any accomplishment or merit of the girls, she thinks is thanks to her. It's honestly astonishing. And her complete and utter lack of accountability for her actions is too. She truly thinks she can do no wrong. It's sickening that people support this woman.

    • @l3xagabrielle776
      @l3xagabrielle776 2 роки тому +16

      also on the show when the kids would win , she took the credit about HER amazing teaching techniques , HER amazing dancers , HER choreography ect. but when they lost the kids didnt have their head on straight or the moms made them nervous

  • @jabreakitjubawtit4748
    @jabreakitjubawtit4748 2 роки тому +102

    It’s kind of scary to hear Abby admit she yelled at this kids on her own without influence from the producers

  • @Faith_Olivia
    @Faith_Olivia 2 роки тому +211

    Abby will never take accountability I mean look at how she still had something negative to say about Chloe in season 8 and she’s grown and not even on the show. Abby is a racist, bigoted, bully, and anyone who says otherwise is crazy.

  • @chloelukasiakcontent
    @chloelukasiakcontent 2 роки тому +199

    The fact that Abby doesn’t think she went too far on the show at all when she made fun of a Chloe’s eye, told her she’d destroy her, made fun of Nia’s braids and Camryn’s feet makes me sick to my stomach.

    • @emmyjo720
      @emmyjo720 2 роки тому +15

      Maddie not having straight teeth.

    • @avatiede1512
      @avatiede1512 Рік тому +9

      Making fun of some kid’s ears

    • @Slappyhappy-c8n
      @Slappyhappy-c8n Рік тому +7

      And she told Kenzie to wear leotards instead of two pieces because of her stomach. And she insulted Vivi’s weight when CADC did the dance in the pink costume in season 7. Kendall also said she called them fat lazy slugs and at Maddie and Mackenzie’s farewell party she gave a little speech and said they should come back “a little leaner” next season. And she commented about the size of Nia’s thighs.

  • @ckilbarger01
    @ckilbarger01 2 роки тому +132

    Maddie, arguably her most successful student, has even come out to say Abby was part of her childhood trauma. Can't imagine what was going on with the other students.

    • @ang4588
      @ang4588 2 роки тому +34

      ..because maddie was also clearly heavily abused through tactics like grooming and manipulation, and was essentially being obsessed over and forced into co-dependency and a different type of self-hatred. idk why you worded it like that-

  • @TheMichm1221
    @TheMichm1221 2 роки тому +332

    Abby hasn't changed at all and she stands behind her toxic actions, which is a shame and dangerous because others may do the same to get famous or because she made it seem like this was what made her dancers great.

    • @caseyjennings7420
      @caseyjennings7420 2 роки тому +26

      She certainly hasn’t changed she’s still the same old toxic person, she still talks bad about Chloe and Paige after all this time 😩 like she needs to let the past go

  • @miriamstern6962
    @miriamstern6962 2 роки тому +171

    It really saddens me that after all these years and everything she's been through, Abby really hasn't changed a bit. She still makes petty and rude remarks about her former students and denies that she ever took part in creating a toxic environment for children. Appreciate this video and all your hard work!

  • @bLYSfullyhere
    @bLYSfullyhere 2 роки тому +163

    Abby truly disgusts me. The way she talks about her students is just horrible and it makes my blood boil all the time. I cannot with her.

  • @YouGiveMeWings
    @YouGiveMeWings 2 роки тому +32

    "I didn't traumatise children" - the noise that came out of my mouth when I heard that

  • @curlyqt99
    @curlyqt99 2 роки тому +17

    The series of clips at “kind, caring, giving, and generous” was perfectly put together to emphasize otherwise

  • @juliejustdance
    @juliejustdance 2 роки тому +95

    Abby saying that she’s kind, caring, and that she love Chloe is suck a joke.

  • @gymnasticsgirlie0647
    @gymnasticsgirlie0647 2 роки тому +144

    Abby is a narcissist. That means that everything is always everyone else's fault, and she will never recognize her own mistakes. The cognitive distortions are insane. It is sad that she will likely always be like this; narcissists usually don't change. But what is sadder is that parents continue to bring their children around her.

    • @gymnasticsgirlie0647
      @gymnasticsgirlie0647 2 роки тому +20

      Side note: Abby seems to have a savior complex about Maddie as well.

    • @nellrose4699
      @nellrose4699 2 роки тому +2

      This is what my mum is like

    • @gymnasticsgirlie0647
      @gymnasticsgirlie0647 2 роки тому +6

      @@nellrose4699 I'm so sorry. My dad has some narcissistic tendencies as well. I hope that if you're an adult, you keep a safe distance from her. If you're a child, I hope that you will one day be able to leave and start your own life away from the toxicity. I hope that one day, both of our parents will come around, change, and apologize. But I'm not holding my breath.

    • @vegpuppy255
      @vegpuppy255 Рік тому

      Exactly what I was thinking too 👍

  • @vol6brianna
    @vol6brianna 2 роки тому +37

    i would love to see you do an episode about Gianna. it is so surprising to me that she still sticks around and works with Abby. says a lot about the kind of person she is to still be comfortable working with/for someone like Abby.

  • @Cactus12
    @Cactus12 2 роки тому +65

    I cannot stand Abby. I called her out on one of her recent videos here she talked about minister Dawn. She conveniently left out the part where she body shakes Reagan before Dawn got there by calling her fat. Abby is an insane narcissist and abuser. The more I watch her, the less I like her, and I already don’t like her at all. She hasn’t learned from her past at all.

  • @klover8662
    @klover8662 2 роки тому +46

    tough love is one thing, but traumatizing kids is another.

  • @sngray11
    @sngray11 2 роки тому +46

    There is a distinct difference between constructive criticism and bullying/tearing down a child’s self-esteem, confidence, etc. A distinction that Abby has never understood. I am so proud of how the OGs have healed from their past trauma and are now incredible young women living life to its fullest. 💗

  • @gingercube688
    @gingercube688 2 роки тому +58

    I strongly suspect Paige is strong and confident now because she's had a lot of therapy to get through the trauma of dance moms

  • @berrisfueller6221
    @berrisfueller6221 2 роки тому +125

    Honestly, I’m glad that Abby never became a mom. The unfortunate thing, though, is that she’s still involved with kids. Also, when she said “I like them young” (I think)…wtf. That just screams PEDOPHILE to me. But she seriously can’t understand why kids wouldn’t want to work with her…

    • @thatonequeen4837
      @thatonequeen4837 2 роки тому

      So, some 50-year-old woman who is a dance teacher and works with kids is a pedo just because she said, "I like them young"? Dang, what can you say nowadays without everyone hanging on to your every word?

    • @mindyschocolate
      @mindyschocolate 2 роки тому

      She’s not a pedophile though. She’s mean, but she doesn’t SA them. That comment was referring to dating, btw.

    • @cherryblossom7120
      @cherryblossom7120 2 роки тому

      She IS one. She adultify girls and boys. It is absolutely pedophilia.

  • @slayin9331
    @slayin9331 2 роки тому +66

    Thank you for addressing this. I've seen many of her recent videos and she really hasnt changed. Not at all. She stands by all her disgusting behavior. She is truly a sick lady.

  • @austin9800
    @austin9800 2 роки тому +66

    you should help christi & kelly on their podcast!! i remember them answering a question about you and didn't even know all this was a thing! watching them read production notes would be interesting for sure :P great vid as always xx

  • @charlieedwards4331
    @charlieedwards4331 2 роки тому +40

    I still can’t believe she thought it was okay to bully her own students! Some people never change!

  • @missymani
    @missymani 2 роки тому +67

    Stop calling Abby "toxic", she a straight up abuser. A lot of coaches are toxic but don't cross the line, Abby has traumatized these girls.

  • @j-rodthelibrarykid1166
    @j-rodthelibrarykid1166 2 роки тому +32

    i read in an article a quote that said, "[Abby Lee] is preparing those girls for an industry that will chew them up and spit them out." i wonder if the industry is full of people like her. i'm still sad for the psychologically affected.

    • @cyanidefilledcandy2
      @cyanidefilledcandy2 2 роки тому +13

      Oh, the dance world is packed to the brim with discrimination, ageism, sexism, racism, and that's just barely scratching the surface.
      Even Sophia Lucia, who was considered a dance prodigy, ended up leaving dance for a long while because of the depression and ED it caused her. And when asked, she said if she had a daughter, she wouldn't let her dance unless she just begged her to, but she's prefer it if she didn't.
      Edit: I am not at all saying or suggesting this justification for how far Abby took things.

    • @j-rodthelibrarykid1166
      @j-rodthelibrarykid1166 2 роки тому +2

      @@cyanidefilledcandy2 absolutely it doesn't justify Abby's actions but wow I didn't know Sophia talked about it that way . Thanks for sharing

    • @thelisarahman
      @thelisarahman 2 роки тому

      Hollywood in general is toxic but it’s terribly toxic to children. Everything from abuse to drugs and alcohol. Hollywood is not a safe place for children. Even as adults it’s not a safe place. But kids are often abused the most because parents want to live through them or use them to make money. And so they allow industry professionals to use and abuse their kids if it means stardom and fortune.

  • @purposehall3807
    @purposehall3807 Рік тому +15

    It’s interesting watching Dance Moms and Bring It! because while both teachers are tough and yell at their students, Mrs. D genuinely cares about making her girls better performers and people. She always stresses how important it is for the girls to know how to be gracious when they lose and doesn’t talk down to them. She supports all of her girls (which is something Abby never did).

  • @sighcantthinkofaname
    @sighcantthinkofaname 2 роки тому +36

    The gall to say that Paige probably stands up for herself now because of that moment. Abby doesn't know anything about what Paige is like now, she can't take credit for her.

  • @RealJoseph123
    @RealJoseph123 2 роки тому +95

    After a decade of Dance Moms, you’d think Abby Lee Miller changed? Wrong! Her UA-cam channel is her deflecting all the cruel things she’s said on the show, I can’t stand it.

    • @Youraverageyoutubeaccount
      @Youraverageyoutubeaccount 2 роки тому +10

      Neither can I I don’t know why people still support her 🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️

  • @graceboulle2531
    @graceboulle2531 2 роки тому +32

    it must be so annoying for the girls that Abby takes credit for milestones in their lives

  • @Watch415
    @Watch415 2 роки тому +35

    She can't even give a single "I'm sorry" to any of those girls. She truly justifies every action. On top of that she tries to take credit for anything they're successful for. If she simply acknowledged that her behavior had consciences on these girls than the girls probably wouldn't even mind saying her name. They call her "my former dance teacher" why should they respect her when she didn't and doesn't even feel remorse now.

  • @emmyjo720
    @emmyjo720 2 роки тому +23

    JoJo got out as soon as she got a better offer. Abby didn't like her and it showed. She didn't see a star in her. Abby told Nia her braids were ugly, Nia has had braids since she left. She told Camryn her feet were freaky because she had pink soles. She told a child she didn't know to sort out her ears and was vile to Ava Michelle for being tall. We now know she had the girls weighed, she couldn't cope with them when they got to puberty......

  • @marvincorre4783
    @marvincorre4783 2 роки тому +41

    The fact that Abby tried to justify her toxic actions and her behavior shows that her apologies wasn't remorseful and sincere. A mature human being would have acknowledged and reflect on what they stated and take responsibility for their actions.
    She admitted that she would purposely and intentionally try to destroy Chloe and Christi but makes up excuses to justify it. The worst moment that Abby has ever said to Chloe was where she mocked Chloe's medical condition at the end of Season 4 because she couldn't handle her mom. She would often compare Chloe to Maddie and would purposely try to set her up to fail.

  • @Anonymouslittlebee
    @Anonymouslittlebee 2 роки тому +38

    She keeps pointing out how successful is the kid, how famous she's now but... At what cost? Chloe literally ended up having ED!!!! SO FAME'S MORE IMPORTANT THAN A TEENAGER STARVING HERSELF BECAUSE HOW AWFUL YOU WERE WITH HER?! I can't even end seeing this video because it pisses me off 😅😅😅

  • @melissawest4667
    @melissawest4667 2 роки тому +43

    Thank you for doing this video. I’ve seen some of her videos and to me she just spewing excuses of why it was okay for her to get away with her behavior. Her comments seem to agree with her mostly so wonder if being heavily monitored.

    • @caseyjennings7420
      @caseyjennings7420 2 роки тому +4

      I noticed this myself

    • @mimiray7836
      @mimiray7836 2 роки тому +12

      They definitely are. She deletes comments frequently that call her out!

    • @melissawest4667
      @melissawest4667 2 роки тому +1

      @@mimiray7836 I was wondering. At least I’m not the only one noticing this.

    • @mimiray7836
      @mimiray7836 2 роки тому +7

      @@melissawest4667
      I still remember in Maddie’s Cosmopolitan video reaction, there were many comments calling out how awful she was to Maddie and the manipulation and she deleted a lot of them!

    • @marvincorre4783
      @marvincorre4783 2 роки тому +5

      @@mimiray7836 That shows how she can't handle being called out for the abuse that she endured the girls into.

  • @cameliab6946
    @cameliab6946 Рік тому +22

    abby saying that she was a good influence to maddie ?! Then why maddie always described her experience as traumatic and dark to the point that she went to therapy and yet you keep stalking her when she is trying to move on... what a good influence abby ....

    • @avatiede1512
      @avatiede1512 Рік тому +2

      Abby manipulated the ever loving shit out of Maddie. Idk how the hell she thinks manipulating a kid is being a “good influence”

  • @RockyMountainHoosier
    @RockyMountainHoosier 2 роки тому +52

    Just as a reminder about the two girls one solo fiasco - she did NOT give them the same solo - there were two moves that were different.... In Maddie's favor. Just... ugh

    • @mc-rn8ro
      @mc-rn8ro 2 роки тому +16

      Right! Chloe got a side arial and Maddie got a front arial!
      Guess which one tends to score higher because it's more difficult!!

    • @RockyMountainHoosier
      @RockyMountainHoosier 2 роки тому +19

      @@mc-rn8ro Jordan sparks analyzed. There was a set of different turns too. Which Chloe could do but weren't put in the solo

    • @uniquelyvicky6391
      @uniquelyvicky6391 2 роки тому +1

      @@mc-rn8ro because she couldn't do a front Arial. Why don't you go and ask her right now.

    • @uniquelyvicky6391
      @uniquelyvicky6391 2 роки тому +3

      You guys will never admit Maddie's talent. Y'all jealousy of Maddie will forever remind. Leave the girl alone. It has been yeara!!!

    • @lemonxllama
      @lemonxllama 2 роки тому +7

      @@uniquelyvicky6391 then abby could’ve put a side arial in Maddie’s solo too. it’s just unfair to put two differently choreographed solos against each other and say they’re the same.

  • @Hannianne
    @Hannianne 2 роки тому +32

    Nothing surprises me of what Abby still justifies. She is narcissistic and takes so much credit for the successes of the dancers on the show. On another note, many ex-students of her's that don't want anything to do with her are still talked about on her channel. Just doesn't seem right.

  • @lglovesmontana
    @lglovesmontana 2 роки тому +23

    I can not believe that she thinks she was being “kind” by making fun of Chloe’s medical condition, called others stupid, & made fun of the other little girl’s ears! How cruel!! You would think, after all that has happened to her, that she would now be aware that Karma is a bitc#!

    • @berrisfueller6221
      @berrisfueller6221 2 роки тому +5

      It’s terrible how anytime someone or something brings up her mean comments regarding looks, she’ll resort to “How you look on stage is important!” Yeah, that may be true, in general. However, Abby seems to mesh together that and judging her dancers’ appearances.

    • @avatiede1512
      @avatiede1512 Рік тому

      @@berrisfueller6221 I agree with you. Looking good on stage is one thing which makes sense but judging someone for an appearance they can’t control is a whole other thing

    • @lovelucinda-ts2yy
      @lovelucinda-ts2yy 6 місяців тому

      True and that is so rude and terrible

  • @celticbelle4004
    @celticbelle4004 2 роки тому +10

    So glad the comments are back. Great job as always.

  • @haileygrimmius9451
    @haileygrimmius9451 2 роки тому +23

    Does Abby not realize that most of the team members already had one foot out the door when the show started? Even Melissa was talking about leaving.

  • @SassyCactus86
    @SassyCactus86 2 роки тому +37

    Jojo was tough as nails before Abby. She has a resilient personality nothing to do with Abby 🙄🙄

  • @pint_pipe_cross
    @pint_pipe_cross 2 роки тому +46

    Honestly, I kind of get where Abby’s coming from when she talked about having Paige be the driver in “The last text.” It did make the end of the number even more chilling and Paige was recovering from an injury…
    HOWEVER, she still failed to mention how, during the episode, she insulted Paige’s intelligence and told Kelly to “go to the hospital and find out what’s wrong” when discussing why Paige was given that part. and that’s the point where it crossed the line.

  • @funinthesun4508
    @funinthesun4508 2 роки тому +22

    The fact that she still talks about those girls to this day is terrible

  • @lostcontrol1981
    @lostcontrol1981 2 роки тому +24

    She might say she didn’t hate Chloe - but I seriously think she did hate Christie - and she put Chloe in terrible situations just to annoy Christie. I think all the kids (with the possible exceptions of Jojo and Asia) were traumatized to a certain extent - some much more than others.

    • @chalkandcheese1868
      @chalkandcheese1868 2 роки тому

      Well Christi did call her a fat whore, that would rile me up.

    • @leahsincelejo7641
      @leahsincelejo7641 Рік тому +2

      And this is the same woman who mocked Chloe’s eye

  • @strawberrylime33
    @strawberrylime33 2 роки тому +30

    Abby, and Gianna too, just seem so shady to me.

    • @chelseybarnes2695
      @chelseybarnes2695 2 роки тому +14

      Gionna is pretty much Abby's "Yes" person. She has no thoughts or opinions of her own. She always mirrors and parrots what Abby says. They're both bad people.

  • @beyoncepatterson4317
    @beyoncepatterson4317 2 роки тому +16

    When someone never takes responsibility for any of their actions, you know they're definitely in the wrong.

  • @kbarracuda
    @kbarracuda 2 роки тому +26

    Okay but can we PLEASE have Abby on the Maury show so she could take a lying detector test about the competitions

  • @DarlingS.A.M
    @DarlingS.A.M Рік тому +10

    There's a difference between strict and straight-up abusive, and Abby is at the top of abusive

  • @kellymcquay2626
    @kellymcquay2626 2 роки тому +20

    Abby still doesn't get it, she was cruel

  • @mariellafuentes7819
    @mariellafuentes7819 2 роки тому +20

    I still would never trust this women with a child

  • @BetteDavis19
    @BetteDavis19 2 роки тому +5

    Thank you for saying all this, I noticed all this in the few videos of Abby's I watched on her channel. She even just says she's "coerced" instead of ever saying anything's her fault, or EVEN responsibility and it's horridly abusive

  • @rebekahbernardy9268
    @rebekahbernardy9268 2 роки тому +32

    Wait so Abby doesn’t think she ever went too far, but also wishes she hadn’t done certain things?? Sounds pretty counterintuitive to me🤔

    • @AndYouWillBeWithMe
      @AndYouWillBeWithMe 2 роки тому +7

      She wishes she didn't do certain things because they made her look bad 💁‍♀️

    • @jennaebradshaw1308
      @jennaebradshaw1308 2 роки тому +1

      @@AndYouWillBeWithMe she should regret everything

    • @AndYouWillBeWithMe
      @AndYouWillBeWithMe 2 роки тому

      @@jennaebradshaw1308 indeed

  • @chasealexissss4781
    @chasealexissss4781 2 роки тому +17

    the fact that gianna is still friends with abby after all of that says a lot. another thing that still bothers me, especially now that i listen to christi/kelly’s podcast, is abby being horrible to the hylands. according to kelly, they were really close before the dm, so to see where they are now is so sad to me.

  • @jessicamadere
    @jessicamadere 2 роки тому +17

    Abby is such a narcissist. She doesn't think what she did is abusive because she isn't honest with herself about the type of person she is, and she probably never will be.

  • @DramaBanana
    @DramaBanana 2 роки тому +26

    Honestly not enough people talk about gianna and her responsibility in what happened on the show and off screen. Abby was a terrible person but if your standing by and watching all these things she’s doing and not doing anything and even given high fives to her when she does these things. I’m sorry but she’s just as bad and people need to get that.

    • @berrisfueller6221
      @berrisfueller6221 2 роки тому +7

      Absolutely. Gianna just pretty much enabled and was apart of the bullying.

  • @katmccullum7569
    @katmccullum7569 2 роки тому +18

    Didn’t Abby say on camera, in S8, that she never wanted Chloe to win??

  • @mc-rn8ro
    @mc-rn8ro 2 роки тому +31

    11:38 Cut to that clip of her from the Rosie O'Donald Show "I can say whatever I want and she can't leave, because she's under contract!"
    Cut again to her talking sh*t about Chloe and Christi at meet and greets, saying they got greedy and wanted too much money (oh the irony)
    Cut again to every time she called Chloe a snake, arrogant, a brat, said the "fame was getting to her head," called her "awful," and tried to replace her over and over and over again.
    The only equality I can find between Chloe and Maddie was eventually Abby resorted to mocking both for their appearances! "Get that eye fixed!!" to Christi about Chloe and "[if Maddie didn't dance] they would hire someone who can ACT, WITH PERFECT TEETH!!" to Melissa about Maddie.
    Equally? Really? "I never wanted Chloe to win!!" Equally? Seriously, now?!

    • @berrisfueller6221
      @berrisfueller6221 2 роки тому +5

      I love how in season 1 (I believe it was season 1) when she said that Chloe was the cockiest kid she had ever met. Chloe doesn’t really seem like the cocky type, or I don’t get that impression from her, anyway.

    • @waitwhat2915
      @waitwhat2915 2 роки тому +4

      Oh no, in season 1 she claimed that Chloe had to work on her confidence (which Christi agreed with) but, in every season afterwards she claimed that Chloe was incredibly cocky.

    • @mc-rn8ro
      @mc-rn8ro Рік тому

      @@waitwhat2915 Meanwhile with Maddie, it was always "bring in your crowns! You need to brag more!! Melissa, stop SQUASHING DOWN her accomplishments!!"
      "Equally," Abby? Chloe "can't base her worth on crowns, can't let her successes go to her head" but Maddie should bring in every crown she's ever won and rub it in her teammates' faces? How is that "equal?"

  • @taylorhastie1022
    @taylorhastie1022 2 роки тому +8

    just learning about dance moms has made me want to go in to psychology so I can properly analyze this women

  • @prettypatrece
    @prettypatrece 2 роки тому +14

    What is wrong with Abby and Gianna! The treatment to the kids and their mothers was horrible. Take accountability and move forward. She needs to be looked into for looking at under age boys. I truly believe Abby was jealous of Chloe. How come on the website it says Chloe won. Abby you weren’t a good influence to Maddie. The girl doesn’t want anything to do with you.

  • @jorandle3455
    @jorandle3455 Рік тому +6

    I’ve watched every single episode of dance moms and as a British mom, if that was happening in England, Abby would have been arrested for child abuse. The way she treated those girls was disgusting. The moms should have pulled their girls the first time she abused them. Those girls deserve medals for putting up with her all those years. Xxjojoxx

  • @danielmackowiak1606
    @danielmackowiak1606 2 роки тому +53

    I’ve tried numerous amounts of times to justify some of Abby’s actions. Because I know that some teachers can be very tough on their students but the teacher wants their kids to be the best they can be. And while somethings that she does say I can defend there’s other things I simply just cannot defend. When it comes to appearance and making fun of medical conditions that’s where I draw the line and say that is not OK behavior.
    I will say that abby has always been a very mixed bag character for me. On the one hand I can appreciate the amount of effort that she has put into certain students and show how successful they are but on the other hand I can’t for the life of me support somebody who bullies and manipulates children for her benefit
    In the first two seasons of the show I can definitely defend her in a lot more circumstance
    Beginning in season three it became a lot more difficult to defend her actions and the final nail in the coffin will definitely still be season four episode seven where I lost all respect for her. After season four I pretty much could not stand her and while I would never wish anybody harm in their life I would’ve thought that being in jail and surviving cancer would’ve definitely changed her outlook on life. Unfortunately it’s very sad to see that she will never truly change or regret some of the things that she said I did which I feel she would be a less bitter person if she would just come out and apologize for what she said and did. Still wouldn’t make her a good person but at least it shows that she is capable of learning from her mistakes
    Overall as of today Abby is just a very negative person. Dragging people down to her level when nearly every single person from the original team wants nothing to do with her
    Maybe someday she’ll realize that she made a mistake but at this point I have little to no respect left for her

  • @zw5867
    @zw5867 2 роки тому +16

    It was disgusting that Abby made Kalani pretend to have a seizure from a drug overdose. It’s offensive to anyone who has epilepsy or seizures/convulsions.

  • @finnyflowers
    @finnyflowers 2 роки тому +7

    excited for this episode! i've been waiting for you to cover this ❤️

  • @sjorsdewit4325
    @sjorsdewit4325 2 роки тому +13

    Yes a dance teacher should critique their students and prepare them for when they're on stage, should the critiques be so harsh? No. Because as a dance teacher and especially in this case when you spent so much time with each other, she's supposed to be a person you can trust where you feel safe, someone you can go to if you did a bad performance so she can console you, but Abby was never that person to Paige

  • @alyssahope9621
    @alyssahope9621 2 роки тому +12

    Abby's lack of accountability is so frustrating but not surprising at all. "I think I was a good influence on her" LOOLLLL okay keep telling yourself that Abigail

  • @kbarracuda
    @kbarracuda 2 роки тому +9

    6:16 “the integrity of the show” girl where

  • @chichi3183
    @chichi3183 2 роки тому +18

    I think Abby is not smart enough to know the difference between being tough and being a bully. If you have to insult a child to teach then you're a bully

    • @djenabdrame8707
      @djenabdrame8707 Рік тому

      She is intelligent enough to make the difference. She know what she does when she bully those child

  • @aal2576
    @aal2576 2 роки тому +16

    Not even being funny Gianna is disgusting I feel like she gets away with a lot when she was just as much of a abuser as Abby

    • @flower-yl6iw
      @flower-yl6iw Рік тому +4

      there were multiple times were she was definitely just as cruel as abby

  • @helensmith4245
    @helensmith4245 2 роки тому +15

    it baffles me that to this day, abby still refuses to acknowledge the exploitation and abuse inflicted on those girls. i try not to engage with abby’s content, but she posted a reaction video to maddies cosmo cover awhile back and i was so curious about what she would have to say. wow. this woman, in all these years, still hasn’t taken up an ounce of accountability or regret. it’s almost impressive how she has retained such ignorance and mean-spirits.
    she can say all she wants about fame or money, but none of that can buy back what those girls suffered. it honestly sickens me. i hope the girls can continue to heal in the ways they need.
    and for all the people who still support abby…how do you watch her freely and happily admitting in these interviews that she bullied these children and still admire her? 😭

  • @jehillyblanco9430
    @jehillyblanco9430 Рік тому +3

    This is like when your bully doesn't remenber they bullied you

  • @xavierzazueta279
    @xavierzazueta279 2 роки тому +10

    Abby: Screams at kids for a living and makes them feel worthless.
    Also Abby after everything she did: “I regret that Chloe was the lead in the group dance instead of Maddie. That’s the only thing I regret.”

  • @evxelyxn
    @evxelyxn 2 роки тому +6

    “To all the wonderful moms out there, Thank you for sharing your child with me 👁👄👁”

  • @Nodeal757
    @Nodeal757 2 роки тому +12

    You'd think abbys health condition would've humbled her a little! But its sadly not at all, i know this word is thrown around wayyy too much but this is a genuine true narcissist.

  • @wayydowneast6759
    @wayydowneast6759 2 роки тому +7

    People are more forgiving when you apologize for what you have done wrong. Abby obviously isn’t that kind of person.

  • @destinyyt6675
    @destinyyt6675 Рік тому +8

    There is a difference between making people stronger and bullying them. Abby saying that she was helping her students by treating them horribly is disgusting! That's bullying, not making someone stronger. There are other ways to make someone stronger without tearing them apart.

  • @r3bs
    @r3bs 2 роки тому +13

    I knew Gianna was just as evil as Abby.

  • @Sheik-yo9fj
    @Sheik-yo9fj 2 роки тому +8

    I cannot believe there are people who sympathize with Abby. Why. Nothing justifies abusing a child, not even fame or good things.
    And then the people calling the dancers who left Abby "ungrateful".
    People complain about child abuse and mistreatment everyday but when it happens they only side with the abuser and shame the victims (whom have every right to react to their own trauma as they need).

  • @xoxo_dd886
    @xoxo_dd886 Рік тому +10

    Abby is an absolutely horrible person, i just can't believe all what those girls went through, they deserved so much better

  • @slimshady1987
    @slimshady1987 2 роки тому +7

    I was literally at one of the competitions it was fixed, they had a dancer from my studio do her solo and they called her the wrong name

  • @saphiregood2550
    @saphiregood2550 2 роки тому +10

    she stakes her success on the kids success, yet not a single one of the ogs talk to her anymore. she was horrendous to them as children and wants to say their success is all because of her. like no abby, you may have trained them but every one of them is successful to SPITE YOU. i would bet money that most if not all her students all gained success to spite her, she was never happpy with anyone winning other than maddie and sometimes kenzie. thats sick and she refuses to admit to it. i stand by my thoughts of abby KNOWING she was terrible and choosing to play victim. narrsissitic or not shes a c you next tuesday. and in my opinion, thats all shes gonna amount to if she continues to act the way she does.

  • @virgo1986ful
    @virgo1986ful 2 роки тому +13

    She call Nia fat and told them to grown up. These two are so wrong

    • @waitwhat2915
      @waitwhat2915 2 роки тому +4

      Then she told Paige that because she was skinny, blonde, and pretty that everyone at school probably hated her.

  • @iantempleton313
    @iantempleton313 Рік тому +3

    Her complete lack of accountability is astonishing

  • @ckilbarger01
    @ckilbarger01 2 роки тому +5

    Almost every mom has come out since and said they regret certain things they did or said and they wish they could have done things differently. It shows growth and maturity so really not surprising Abby is not really there. Abby's plan worked for the most part. In her mind, she made Maddie famous.

  • @craftingranger7552
    @craftingranger7552 2 роки тому +5

    She's never going to take responsibility because she's too big headed.

  • @samiiesmile
    @samiiesmile 2 роки тому +9

    this is one of the things that enrages me the most, this woman = 0 accountability

  • @stephaniesilnieks8651
    @stephaniesilnieks8651 2 роки тому +8

    Abby in 1 word: DELUSIONAL

  • @jennawakeland1320
    @jennawakeland1320 2 роки тому +11

    I would honestly LOVE to watch her watch this video lol. Like she blatantly contradicts herself. She said it's okay for her to talk about students because she has credentials but it's not okay for other dance teachers to comment on students like they don't also have credentials? And if it's okay for Paige to stand up for herself to an adult even though he's a dance teacher and knows better than Paige according to Abbys own thinking, so why isn't okay for the girls to stand up to Abby? Its just very clear that she will say anything to justify her poor behavior

  • @heatherward5053
    @heatherward5053 2 роки тому +10

    She was not coerced. Pitting kids against each other is competition. Pitting them against each other then tearing one down is not. She’s an awful person. The comps were real except the one they lost?? Ok.. sure thing. We saw the performances and know they’re not real, thanks to the research done by the incredible MackZBoss!!! It’s hilarious she takes credit for those girls. They succeeded in spite of her, not because of her
    Edit: she may be a professional in dance, but she had no business mocking their bodies or their families. She’s certainly not a dietitian, therapist, or a mother

  • @orange_blossoms7006
    @orange_blossoms7006 2 роки тому +8

    And Abby would be NOTHING without these girls. If you need an example on how you don't need to be an abuser to win look at the show Bring It!, Coach D is 20x better 😒

  • @paigesweeney3963
    @paigesweeney3963 2 роки тому +9

    But they gave Maddie a front Ariel and Chloe a side which a side is worth less points so it wasn’t the exact same solo

    • @ang4588
      @ang4588 2 роки тому +1

      I can tell you as someone who has been around competition scoring, that is a fandom rumor 😭 Front aerials hardly score anything above side aerials, and you’d especially have to do one perfectly to get even a slightly significant plus

  • @sweetreny1155
    @sweetreny1155 2 роки тому +8

    Abby would never take responsibility for her actions for anything that she had done she would never take responsibility for it. P.s it's also funny how she never thanked the original cast for making her a household name but yet she wants them to constantly thank her.