I feel like the Mavs already have one of the deepest rosters in basketball, and are now starting to come together as a team. Not sure I would make any trades at all unless some amazing deal presents itself.
@@cognitivedisability9864 PJ, Kyrie, and Luka are all due for extensions next summer. Grimes will also be seeking a contract. We're not going to be able to keep everyone. Next year is Gafford's final year as a Mav. He understandably wants a starting position
Agree but maybe players like O-Max and Hardy with Maxi and some 2nds would get the job done. Nets need young players as Cam Thomas doesn't want to be there
If we could somehow get Obi Toppin for Maxi it would be huge imo. He's almost as athletic as DJJ and can commit to defense and running the floor. Luka plays really well with athletes imo.
Maxi was never the same after the multiple knee injuries a couple years ago. He was bad all of last season until like the final month that carried over into the playoffs
My head says DoDo. He already knows Kidd's scheme, still plays defense and hustles at a high level, while also avg 10ppg while shooting 42% from three with 6 attempts per game on the trash Nets. It's just I wouldn't use a 1st round pick but it's not bad to shop for DFS as he provides a crucial asset in being PJ'S backup which we need to keep him fresh. This defensive scheme doesn't work without PJ Washington.
He is a small forward and the Mavs are stacked at that position between Luka, PJ, (maybe Grimes)and Naji who are all young. He can't play PF so he might just need a fresh start somewhere else. Although I believe the Mavs should trade Hardy since Grimes isn't under contract. Could give O-Max a chance as a big SG off the bench.
Nah it’s over for maxi. I’ve been on the maxi train his entire career, but it’s over. . Even if he starts making his 3, HES NEVER AVAILABLE WHEN WE NEED. For almost the entire Luka era, maxi has been unavailable when we need him. I’ll take something more consistent for a one for trade and a draft pic or something like that
@TheFosgen88 Yea, I believe... in Maxi being washed. Sorry, but his best days are behind him. Not only has he lost a step on defense but he's lost confidence on offense. Mavs have to move on
@@richardcase9165 I don't think Memphis is trading him, which is why I think they should wait for the offseason when he becomes restricted free agent. I don't think Dallas should trade either, unless it's clear cut like getting a younger better and more versatile Maxi Kleber as a backup 4. I wouldn't go for risky stuff.
@@96wtfomg We have to focus on shedding salary. Next year, Grimes will be seeking a contract and PJ/Kyrie will both be seeking extensions. We're not going to be able to keep everyone
I won’t be sad if we get Dodo. But I think I’m on board with Obi Toppin. He’s not a great shooter. But he’s got everything else I want in the backup 4.
I love you Nic but if we need anything its a backup 4. We have 3 (third) ball handlers. It wouldnt be the best idea to trade limited assests we have on one..when Exum will be back around the trade deadline
“Someone who can catch a lob besides the two big men..” excuse me I think you mean 3 bit men because I’m pretty sure I saw Dwight Powell FLY to the rim two nights ago 😂
We don’t need another back up Point guard for a minimum contract. We have Exum and Dinwiddie which is plenty. So please stop this discussion. We need defensive wings
Just trade if you can either surely upgrade your roster or get some trade value back. I still hope to have some better Hardy Performance. And the. him and 3 picks in the offseason could bring us some good player
That Butler to the rockets or mavs story sounds like something you put out there to increase Butler's price. If he leaves Miami via trade it's most likely to go to Houston. I'd be intrigued if it happened. More so than if they traded for KD or Booker. Everywhere that Butler goes he plays like he has to prove that he's better than everyone else, and I like that energy on the Rockets.
Yes we need to move Maxi Kleber. If it has to take O-Max or Hardy or both to get it done to move him then so be it. I'm looking at DFS or Isiah Stewart from the Pistons personally. We are playing with fire with how many minutes we play PJ this early on in this Season and Maxi can't contribute nothing in his stead. Been saying this since the Off-Season we need a backup 4 because Maxi can't be trusted. Too small to be a 5, too slow as a 4, and too unwilling to shoot to be a "stretch big" so what does he offer for a 11 million dollar price tag this year? Nothing really. Its a slap to the face of players like Naji who is only getting paid 8 million a year or DJJ last year who only got paid around 4-5 million and still contributed more than Maxi. Rant aside DFS is a sure fire quick footed defender we know who knows the scheme so we won't have to worry about a learning curve. Just the 1st round pick makes the deal shaky and I understand. But I'm willing to part with it if Hardy or O-max stay but not both going with said 1st.
If Dinnwiddie shows he can be relied on as the back up guard. Than really the only hole is depth at back up 4. A healthy Game ready Maxi is fine with that as he can slide to the 5 when our two big guys are out(we do NOT want Powell anywhere near being relied upon). Anyway if Din is reliable, they can throw the late 1st and Maxi and Omax and get Doe if they will do that. The 1st isn't going to be good and Shoes hasn't really drafted anyone other than Lively(which they threatened losing to a team who needed a center and could have moved up to 11 to snag him) Hardy and Omax right now are D and F grades.(But I still have some hope for them). The main question is do we make the 1st part of a bigger deal by adding the 31 pick. If Shoes didn't extend Hardy. Then I could see Maxi and Hardy or Maxi Hardy and Omax straight up for Doe(maybe a 2nd if they have) but that was obviously a mistake. Which was the opposite mistake he made with Brunson. Not to mention the other part of the first year 3 strikes of McGee, Wood. Hey I think Cuban did those moves and would bet good money that SHoes was just hired as a PR guy. But ya want to give every credit to Shoes, So Ok I 'll play it yas way. Now he actually is the GM and the first GM allowed to be one it seems since before Big Don and Cubes got into it over Nash. But when did that start. The Utah Shadow GM came in and the moves just seemed much better and was still around when they did the TDL deals. But people like to speak of the mavs in Absolutes. Like Cubes a Great Owner. Well yeah in 011 and before he was a Great Owner. He was trash after that. With lots of examples why.
I mean i love maxi kleber but we need scoring and defense and maxi seems scared to shoot the ball unless this is his plan on the team unless he is wide open and he is just out there for defense only then understand
I rarely ever say this but this team hasn’t had time to sit down at the dinner table together. No need to make a trade unless it’s just mine blowing imo
Jake LaRavia from the memphis grizzles (could wait to attempt to get him in free agency for the 2025-26 season) will be a upgrade and/or Maxi Kleber replacement in 2025-26 if Maxi is still on the roster by this season's end.
This is just dumb. The Mavericks biggest problem now is they have too many players who can play. I would take Love for Hardy in a second though. You get rebounding and 3 point shooting. Hardy is too streaky. The Maverick's don't need scoring. Trading 5 players for Butler is asinine too. Dumb as hell.
Not to say that Gaff isn't tradeable cause he is, but if we trade Gafford we really lose one of our biggest advantages over most teams in the league which is our size and interior defense. I like Deni a lot, but we really struggle when we don't have that 1-2 punch at the center spot.
Yeah get deni or herb for Daniel who's been the healthiest big for us and was huge for the turnaround last season so we could play our GOAT Powell as a back up again and basically RELY on D-live being healthy for a full season and that doesn't include the playoffs. Man some of these trade ideas our bunkers, the reason OKC made a move for Isiah is because they have to matchup against our bigs in the long run. It's an asset to have two bigs on the team that can basically start on every team in the NBA not named Boston. Let's just stop this nonsense we're in November and were talking about trading one of our bigs to get smaller? Make it make sense LMFAO
I'd play Luka at the 4 long before I'd trade Gafford or Lively. Better off keeping a struggling Maxi than crippling the team by making Dwight Powell the starting center for ~30 games. No thanks.
I think the fact that Obi gets more money than PJ would create a dilemma in JKidd's mind "Should I start Obi over PJ?" and I don't want any of that lol :-)
@@malikjames6815 Your promises are meaningless to me. JKidd is the coach and his not predictable. MFs were saying Lively will start from beginning of the season, and he didn't. I get it that there is no logical reason to start Obi over PJ, but I don't think JKidd is using logic to reason lol
It is amazing to me how there are many who do not want to improve this roster . They are happy with maxi just floating along. One told me he is one of the best +\- players on this roster . It is the weakest and inconsistent +/- I’ve ever seen . Also, you don’t know when he will get hurt .
Be nice if Kidd would commit to playing Omax 15 per like he did Green in his second season. . If he can't contribute now he shouldn't be on the roster.
Keep our bigs together. Gafford is so consistent / solid ( & DLiv unfortunately has been injury bug prone). Topin or Nance sound good 2 me. K Love *could be interesting ( even at his age).!
Maxi is seriously frustrating. The Mavs can NOT keep playing 4 on 5 on the offensive end. At this point I would rather see Dwight Powell on the court instead of Maxi cause at least the offense can keep flowing. All I know is that the Mavs can't be giving 27 minutes and getting just 1.8 points. This will only blow up in their face come the playoffs. So Maxi needs to get over this mental block or whatever and start hitting 35-38% of his shots or else get traded. There's no point in having a stretch 4/5 if he won't stretch.
Maxi Kleber is a straight up financial brick. Untradeable and unplayable. He’s not even willing to take a jump shot anymore. His regression has been very sad to watch.
Someone who could be solid is Jared Vanderbilt. He is a great defender and could be a great small ball five. The bigger issue, though, is his 3 point shot, but maybe Luka could give him a shooting boost.
Maxi deserves to be here. We have plenty of depth. No team has perfect roster. Maxi deserves a chip and its best chance to receive one. If anyone trade OMAX.
Maxi putting us in the Luxury tax line right now as he isn't delivering on his 11 million dollar salary. He is getting traded. He got his money so the Mavs don't owe him anything
Fontecchio is a career SF, he's 6'7". Kleber is 6'10", Id rather Paul Reed from Detroit who plays really good defense and is only 1 inch shorter than Kleber, meaning he can eat Center and PF minutes where needed if fouls are an issue
I dont want to re-run the tires on DFS. did we forget how he can't dribble or playmake and is actually limited defensively? might as well wait for omax while maxi does more or less the same thing DFS would do instead constantly wasting away draft picks. no thanks on DFS
Omg my agenda for Toppin was now being recognized hahaha I have been saying this multiple times on every mavs channel Toppin is the best trade for Maxi
wait, i didnt even know he was an option 😭😭 havent watched the vid yet but im surprised hes even on the trade block, theres no way pacers move obi for max tho
@younglightskin2685 yeah that's the only problem Pacers often asked for too much during trades but if Nico somehow manage to make a deal without giving up too much then that will be a huge upgrade.
@@kirlobinar Defense is more on effort and experience, tho you could argue that some players has better defensive instincts. Being a super athletic big like Obi with the right system he can play great defense, just like how PJ is not known for his defense in Charlotte Obi being from Pacers and Knicks would not have a good defensive system to lean on does not help his case but if he come to Dallas with a good defensive system he can improve his defense and learn even if he doesn't become an elite defender he can still be an above average defender purely from his physical attributes.
On Liv or Gafford Yes we should listen but only for a super star in return. Why?? Liv can't stay healthy or out of foul trouble, has bad hands and is a total non shooter. Gafford right now is simply more dependable but Liv is our future.
Well at the time Kyrie was on the market and they wanted to take that big risk for him and it took Dorian and Spencer for it. It’s not that Dorian wasn’t good, it was just KYRIE. Had to get him asap.
It should've been THJ that was traded not DFS. The Nets wanted a wing defender for KD but KD had other plans. DFS is still a good player. Would fit perfectly as a PJ backup
Playoff rotation: Luka, Kyrie, Marshall, Grimes, Gafford, Lively, Thompson, Washington, Maxi, Dinwiddie. In my mind, everyone else is tradeable. Playoff basketball is completely different than first half of the regular season basketball. You might play 8-9 players. Maybe. Depends on injuries and what not.
Isaiah Stewart, Paul Reed, Trey Lyles, Larry Nance, and Obi Toppin are all realistic options we could get for Maxi's spot. Technically DFS too, but he's not the best option if it costs us a FRP for a backup big....
Obi Toppin is trash. Sure, he's super athletic, but that doesn't mean he's good. He's not a good shooter, rebounder, or defender. And you have to pay him 13-16 million and some decent assets to the Pacers?? Super PASS. Give me Larry Nance. Cheaper option to buy. He's an expiring contract this year. And he is better than Maxi
I dont understand why people are so down on Maxi. Kidd trusts him. He is familiar with the defensive system under Sweeney. He knows his role. He is a glue guy on defense. He does stuff that doesn't show up in the stats. Coach could bench him and he would still support his teammates like a vet. I understand he isn't worth 11 Mil anymore. But 18 Mil for Rui, or 16 Mil for Obi, to play 10 min of the bench?? And those guys only contribute on offense. Mavs need a back up 4 who thinks defense first. He has to cover up a lot for Dinwiddie and Hardy.
@@96wtfomg Marshall could play the back up 4 as well. If Maxi is injured. It isn't ideal but I would not waste any assets for a back up who plays limited minutes. Longterm I still think Omax can be that guy. I like his size and his motor. He seems like a great guy.
@@fabianfrey7649Naji is too small as 4 tho that's why when PJ was injured and Naji played while he is great at defense and offense he is one of the reasons they were on a 4 game losing stretch because he isn't good at rebounding. And it can be easily noticed when PJ comes back and they are back at being a great rebounding team again and also winning.
That all gets negated when he is getting paid 11 million this season. He isn't doing anything. He was mixing up his defensive assignments last game against the Blazers. Turned down open 3s just to turn the ball over. He is a slow clunky defender who also refuses to shoot. That's what he is now so stop the cap. We seen it in these games without Luka that he wasn't making an impact and in this game with Luka..... he still doesn't make an impact. 0/5 for 2 points in 27 minutes against the tanking Blazers. Normally I wouldn't point to one game for a player but this has been his season averages for almost 3 years now. It's time for him to go.
Kyrie’s and Grimes’ extensions will move us into 2nd apron. I’m not trading for any spare parts over 30. You got one last domino. Make it count.
Facts
I feel like the Mavs already have one of the deepest rosters in basketball, and are now starting to come together as a team. Not sure I would make any trades at all unless some amazing deal presents itself.
Luka is also due an extension next summer
@@TimothyWayne pj and gafford too
@@cognitivedisability9864 PJ, Kyrie, and Luka are all due for extensions next summer. Grimes will also be seeking a contract. We're not going to be able to keep everyone. Next year is Gafford's final year as a Mav. He understandably wants a starting position
Naji and pj to me way better then DJJ imo
Grimes too.
Obviously
Yup end DJJ is better then DFS.
Dfs would add nothing to this team he's a terrible ballhandler who doesn't rebound or score much
DJJ and Naji aren’t comparable. They just aren’t the same player, no matter how many people want to try and compare them lmao
DFS is not worth a 1st
He's donezo.
Agree but maybe players like O-Max and Hardy with Maxi and some 2nds would get the job done. Nets need young players as Cam Thomas doesn't want to be there
@@beastscale1892 they cant trade hardy this season because of his extension
If we could somehow get Obi Toppin for Maxi it would be huge imo. He's almost as athletic as DJJ and can commit to defense and running the floor. Luka plays really well with athletes imo.
Toppin is trash defensively
No
Maxi was never the same after falling on his back 😩
Yeah, i am so sorry for him. Maxi did a lot for our Mavs!
Maxi was never the same after the multiple knee injuries a couple years ago. He was bad all of last season until like the final month that carried over into the playoffs
And that. Play was so unnecessary too
DO NOT TRADE GAFFORD!
My head says toppin, my heart Dodo.
Haha same my friend 😂
My head says DoDo. He already knows Kidd's scheme, still plays defense and hustles at a high level, while also avg 10ppg while shooting 42% from three with 6 attempts per game on the trash Nets. It's just I wouldn't use a 1st round pick but it's not bad to shop for DFS as he provides a crucial asset in being PJ'S backup which we need to keep him fresh. This defensive scheme doesn't work without PJ Washington.
I think we should play Omax more, give him more minutes besides garbage time. And if we can't maybe trade him with Maxi for Dorian
The omax dream has been dead
He is a small forward and the Mavs are stacked at that position between Luka, PJ, (maybe Grimes)and Naji who are all young. He can't play PF so he might just need a fresh start somewhere else. Although I believe the Mavs should trade Hardy since Grimes isn't under contract. Could give O-Max a chance as a big SG off the bench.
In Maxi we believe. he is hearing all of the critics and Will make your regret your lack of support. Playoff Maxi is coming🙌
I still think there is a scenario where he becomes a positive for the team, he just needs to stay healthy.
Maybe you are right. But he will geht hurt again at some point. So maybe trade him aslong He has some value for a player with more future
Nah it’s over for maxi. I’ve been on the maxi train his entire career, but it’s over. . Even if he starts making his 3, HES NEVER AVAILABLE WHEN WE NEED. For almost the entire Luka era, maxi has been unavailable when we need him. I’ll take something more consistent for a one for trade and a draft pic or something like that
@TheFosgen88 Yea, I believe... in Maxi being washed. Sorry, but his best days are behind him. Not only has he lost a step on defense but he's lost confidence on offense. Mavs have to move on
No
lets go and get dani advija
fk no
No. Not necessary.
@@96wtfomg he can guard 1-5 good rebounder can put the ball on the floor great in transition
im tired of guys who can only hit catch and shoot 3's we need more. versatile guys
another player to feed. mavs have a lot already. some of these 20pts scorer will not gonna get touches ones everyone is back
That be crazy we would basically get everything back we traded for kyrie to the nets and would have spencer dfs and kyrie lol player wise
Damn ! Ur rite that is crazy
Wait until offseason and make a move for Santi Aldama. Or Maxi and O-Max for Aldama.
Either way they really should try and keep that 1st round pick.
Win. Now.
I like Aldama but why would you think they would trade him
@@richardcase9165 I don't think Memphis is trading him, which is why I think they should wait for the offseason when he becomes restricted free agent.
I don't think Dallas should trade either, unless it's clear cut like getting a younger better and more versatile Maxi Kleber as a backup 4. I wouldn't go for risky stuff.
@@96wtfomg We have to focus on shedding salary. Next year, Grimes will be seeking a contract and PJ/Kyrie will both be seeking extensions. We're not going to be able to keep everyone
Im liking Obi Toppin fits with the mavs and similar fit like PJ and Gaff
I won’t be sad if we get Dodo. But I think I’m on board with Obi Toppin. He’s not a great shooter. But he’s got everything else I want in the backup 4.
I love you Nic but if we need anything its a backup 4. We have 3 (third) ball handlers. It wouldnt be the best idea to trade limited assests we have on one..when Exum will be back around the trade deadline
“Someone who can catch a lob besides the two big men..” excuse me I think you mean 3 bit men because I’m pretty sure I saw Dwight Powell FLY to the rim two nights ago 😂
Vengeance Wood shoutout goes crazy
Obi Toppin sounds really good to me
We don’t need another back up Point guard for a minimum contract. We have Exum and Dinwiddie which is plenty. So please stop this discussion. We need defensive wings
Yes we need defense and rebounding. Idealy strong shooting four. But any defensive athletic wing would fit.
Hot take: Woods would be great backup at 4 spot and fits the small ball system
Do not let Gafford go we need the bigs to help on blow byes **cough cough** Luka… on defense.
Not to mention Lively is super injury prone.
Toumani Camara from the trailblazers Backup PF Maxi Kleber upgrade and/or replacement
Just trade if you can either surely upgrade your roster or get some trade value back. I still hope to have some better Hardy Performance. And the. him and 3 picks in the offseason could bring us some good player
Kevin Love is a great rebounder, shooter and playmaker. Only thing Maxi has over him is age and possibly defense
He would bring SOMETHING to the table. Maxi is overrated on defense at this point and a big Bronny James on offense
Love would instantly be the worst defender on the team
Idk if I’m sold on Spence. I pray he continues this greatness, but I’m nervous…. If He falls off then I go lonzo ball/Larry nance
Kinda random but I want to see Luka average 27 and 13-14apg. So much firepower with Naji and grimes hooping like this
omax and 2nd for Finney Smith
For me acquiring Herb Jones would be 😎😎😎😎
I’d volunteer for the celebrity dog walking
Make the backup 4 great again!
As much as I don’t want Hardy to leave, we might need him in a trade package
My thing is that i just dont think OMax will ever make the rotation behind PJ. I would rather send him somewhere where he could thrive.
That Butler to the rockets or mavs story sounds like something you put out there to increase Butler's price. If he leaves Miami via trade it's most likely to go to Houston. I'd be intrigued if it happened. More so than if they traded for KD or Booker. Everywhere that Butler goes he plays like he has to prove that he's better than everyone else, and I like that energy on the Rockets.
Booker and KD are not getting traded lol
Yes we need to move Maxi Kleber. If it has to take O-Max or Hardy or both to get it done to move him then so be it. I'm looking at DFS or Isiah Stewart from the Pistons personally. We are playing with fire with how many minutes we play PJ this early on in this Season and Maxi can't contribute nothing in his stead. Been saying this since the Off-Season we need a backup 4 because Maxi can't be trusted. Too small to be a 5, too slow as a 4, and too unwilling to shoot to be a "stretch big" so what does he offer for a 11 million dollar price tag this year? Nothing really. Its a slap to the face of players like Naji who is only getting paid 8 million a year or DJJ last year who only got paid around 4-5 million and still contributed more than Maxi.
Rant aside DFS is a sure fire quick footed defender we know who knows the scheme so we won't have to worry about a learning curve. Just the 1st round pick makes the deal shaky and I understand. But I'm willing to part with it if Hardy or O-max stay but not both going with said 1st.
If Dinnwiddie shows he can be relied on as the back up guard. Than really the only hole is depth at back up 4. A healthy Game ready Maxi is fine with that as he can slide to the 5 when our two big guys are out(we do NOT want Powell anywhere near being relied upon).
Anyway if Din is reliable, they can throw the late 1st and Maxi and Omax and get Doe if they will do that.
The 1st isn't going to be good and Shoes hasn't really drafted anyone other than Lively(which they threatened losing to a team who needed a center and could have moved up to 11 to snag him) Hardy and Omax right now are D and F grades.(But I still have some hope for them).
The main question is do we make the 1st part of a bigger deal by adding the 31 pick. If Shoes didn't extend Hardy. Then I could see Maxi and Hardy or Maxi Hardy and Omax straight up for Doe(maybe a 2nd if they have) but that was obviously a mistake. Which was the opposite mistake he made with Brunson.
Not to mention the other part of the first year 3 strikes of McGee, Wood.
Hey I think Cuban did those moves and would bet good money that SHoes was just hired as a PR guy. But ya want to give every credit to Shoes, So Ok I 'll play it yas way.
Now he actually is the GM and the first GM allowed to be one it seems since before Big Don and Cubes got into it over Nash. But when did that start. The Utah Shadow GM came in and the moves just seemed much better and was still around when they did the TDL deals. But people like to speak of the mavs in Absolutes. Like Cubes a Great Owner. Well yeah in 011 and before he was a Great Owner. He was trash after that. With lots of examples why.
I mean i love maxi kleber but we need scoring and defense and maxi seems scared to shoot the ball unless this is his plan on the team unless he is wide open and he is just out there for defense only then understand
I rarely ever say this but this team hasn’t had time to sit down at the dinner table together. No need to make a trade unless it’s just mine blowing imo
Can we bring up 7'5 Jamarion Sharp?
He’s not ready yet.
Don’t trade your 1st round pick this year, it’s a pretty stacked draft and the mavs need to bring some youth with potential
Hardy for Love?!?! Guys! This episode has a few bad takes, but this is ridiculous. A few months ago Nick said Hardy was one of our best assets..
Jake LaRavia from the memphis grizzles (could wait to attempt to get him in free agency for the 2025-26 season) will be a upgrade and/or Maxi Kleber replacement in 2025-26 if Maxi is still on the roster by this season's end.
The Heat are so petty. Against the Mavs I saw they had that 2006 banner all lit up special over the other banners.
Wat a legenda? Iam from Brasil, o need the legend
Are we giving up on Hardy too easily, or is the whole point of the talk is that he is our most optimal trade asset outside of bigs/stars
This is just dumb. The Mavericks biggest problem now is they have too many players who can play. I would take Love for Hardy in a second though. You get rebounding and 3 point shooting. Hardy is too streaky. The Maverick's don't need scoring. Trading 5 players for Butler is asinine too. Dumb as hell.
if you can get Deni, you give them gaff short of that no
Not to say that Gaff isn't tradeable cause he is, but if we trade Gafford we really lose one of our biggest advantages over most teams in the league which is our size and interior defense. I like Deni a lot, but we really struggle when we don't have that 1-2 punch at the center spot.
Yeah get deni or herb for Daniel who's been the healthiest big for us and was huge for the turnaround last season so we could play our GOAT Powell as a back up again and basically RELY on D-live being healthy for a full season and that doesn't include the playoffs. Man some of these trade ideas our bunkers, the reason OKC made a move for Isiah is because they have to matchup against our bigs in the long run. It's an asset to have two bigs on the team that can basically start on every team in the NBA not named Boston. Let's just stop this nonsense we're in November and were talking about trading one of our bigs to get smaller? Make it make sense LMFAO
I'd play Luka at the 4 long before I'd trade Gafford or Lively. Better off keeping a struggling Maxi than crippling the team by making Dwight Powell the starting center for ~30 games. No thanks.
I wouldn’t trade with pacers because I would feel like ric is trying to fleece us every time
I think the fact that Obi gets more money than PJ would create a dilemma in JKidd's mind "Should I start Obi over PJ?" and I don't want any of that lol :-)
I promise you that wouldn't happen
@@malikjames6815 Your promises are meaningless to me. JKidd is the coach and his not predictable. MFs were saying Lively will start from beginning of the season, and he didn't.
I get it that there is no logical reason to start Obi over PJ, but I don't think JKidd is using logic to reason lol
@antykwanty when you say money is the reason he would consider it you must not remember Christian Wood coming off the bench
Why we not getting the 3 man pod anymore? Isaac and Slightly not vibing?
trey Lyles could be good fit.
Maxi and hardy trade them
It is amazing to me how there are many who do not want to improve this roster . They are happy with maxi just floating along. One told me he is one of the best +\- players on this roster . It is the weakest and inconsistent +/- I’ve ever seen . Also, you don’t know when he will get hurt .
Be nice if Kidd would commit to playing Omax 15 per like he did Green in his second season. . If he can't contribute now he shouldn't be on the roster.
maxi is a lifer like powell
OBIE IS A MAJOR UPGRADE FROM MAXI
Someone like Anunoby. We would also take Giannis.
Mavs fans simultaneously think Maxi is trash and that every team in the league will just give us anything we want for him 😂😂
Keep our bigs together. Gafford is so consistent / solid ( & DLiv unfortunately has been injury bug prone). Topin or Nance sound good 2 me. K Love *could be interesting ( even at his age).!
Maxi is seriously frustrating. The Mavs can NOT keep playing 4 on 5 on the offensive end. At this point I would rather see Dwight Powell on the court instead of Maxi cause at least the offense can keep flowing. All I know is that the Mavs can't be giving 27 minutes and getting just 1.8 points. This will only blow up in their face come the playoffs.
So Maxi needs to get over this mental block or whatever and start hitting 35-38% of his shots or else get traded. There's no point in having a stretch 4/5 if he won't stretch.
Maxi Kleber is a straight up financial brick. Untradeable and unplayable. He’s not even willing to take a jump shot anymore. His regression has been very sad to watch.
Someone who could be solid is Jared Vanderbilt. He is a great defender and could be a great small ball five. The bigger issue, though, is his 3 point shot, but maybe Luka could give him a shooting boost.
Maxi deserves to be here. We have plenty of depth. No team has perfect roster. Maxi deserves a chip and its best chance to receive one. If anyone trade OMAX.
That’s the kind of thinking that only wins a conference finals and not the Chip.
Maxi putting us in the Luxury tax line right now as he isn't delivering on his 11 million dollar salary. He is getting traded. He got his money so the Mavs don't owe him anything
Simone Fontecchio from Detroit Pistons Backup PF Maxi Kleber upgrade and/or replacement.
Simone Fontecchio future Maverick
Fontecchio is a career SF, he's 6'7". Kleber is 6'10", Id rather Paul Reed from Detroit who plays really good defense and is only 1 inch shorter than Kleber, meaning he can eat Center and PF minutes where needed if fouls are an issue
@jacobwagner8984 Fontecchio has primarily been an SF during his career and is listed at 6'8.
@@Matthew_Kunovic Simone Fontecchio shot 2/12 his last game and is currently shooting 39% from the field and 34% from three. No thanks!!!!!
Detroit likes beasley, he's not going to be traded...
I dont want to re-run the tires on DFS. did we forget how he can't dribble or playmake and is actually limited defensively? might as well wait for omax while maxi does more or less the same thing DFS would do instead constantly wasting away draft picks. no thanks on DFS
Maybe they could sign Marcus Morris Sr. for a backup 4. I saw him play last year for the Cavs and he still got it.
Do you really think Mavs needs any improvment? They recently proved that they are ready!
Yes we need strong 4.
Dorian needs be in this team somehow. He was our heart and soul. I feel like Maxi will play better if we somehow get Dorian back.
Make it make sense.. a first for a player who is a healthy scratch every game 😂😂😂… the infatuation over a mid player is nuts
2 2nd rounders and Maxi yeah why not lol
@@SwazeyThaGod he’s been banged up but he’s shooting 40% from 3
@@ensleyhatfield3397 We have to focus on reducing our salaries. Next year Grimes will be seeking a contract and PJ/Kyrie are due for extensions.
@@PeterWilson-c3u good point. I wasn’t thinking about that
Bring in Dwight Howard for free
Lets hit him w that cartoon from 2014 😂
We already have centers who can do what he does. We need a floor spacing stretch 4
Toxic. Not even to think about it.
I'd rather deal maxi and 1st or 2nd for bringing back dorian
The only position without much depth is pf maxi is unreliable and cant score much
Simone Fontecchio and the Mavs win the championship
Santi Aldama?
Omg my agenda for Toppin was now being recognized hahaha I have been saying this multiple times on every mavs channel Toppin is the best trade for Maxi
wait, i didnt even know he was an option 😭😭 havent watched the vid yet but im surprised hes even on the trade block, theres no way pacers move obi for max tho
@younglightskin2685 yeah that's the only problem Pacers often asked for too much during trades but if Nico somehow manage to make a deal without giving up too much then that will be a huge upgrade.
Toppin is a garbage defender, 32 year old washed Maxi is still better than him at defense. Pass on Toppin
@@kirlobinar Defense is more on effort and experience, tho you could argue that some players has better defensive instincts. Being a super athletic big like Obi with the right system he can play great defense, just like how PJ is not known for his defense in Charlotte Obi being from Pacers and Knicks would not have a good defensive system to lean on does not help his case but if he come to Dallas with a good defensive system he can improve his defense and learn even if he doesn't become an elite defender he can still be an above average defender purely from his physical attributes.
@dreamvveaver
Knicks Thibs is an expert defensive coach. If Toppin couldn't click there then that's red flags
On Liv or Gafford Yes we should listen but only for a super star in return. Why?? Liv can't stay healthy or out of foul trouble, has bad hands and is a total non shooter. Gafford right now is simply more dependable but Liv is our future.
WTF DFS....FOR WHAT....
HE NOT A 4...
HE JUST A FAN FAV...
Indianas coach love Maxi. And Isaiah Jackson dont play in Indiana and is a young 4/5
I’d love butler but he’s too pricey.
This is funny. Maxis got that Dwight safety. He’s not going to get traded. 😂
Luka isn’t letting either of them go anywhere
Dwight and Maxi are the only remaining players left from Luka's rookie year.
@ it’s infuriating. Just wasting roster spots on his old pals
I do not understand this glaze for dorian if he was traded certainly it was becaude he wasnt that good
Well at the time Kyrie was on the market and they wanted to take that big risk for him and it took Dorian and Spencer for it. It’s not that Dorian wasn’t good, it was just KYRIE. Had to get him asap.
Yeah, people act like DFS has been decent since the trade which isn't the case
It should've been THJ that was traded not DFS. The Nets wanted a wing defender for KD but KD had other plans. DFS is still a good player. Would fit perfectly as a PJ backup
100% trade MAXI and O-MAX for Obi Toppin. I would love to see Gafford out there with Obi lurking as another lob threat.
These dudes will apologize to Maxi soon. Lol
We don’t want to trade Maxi because he’s garbage. We want to trade him because he’s to good and not getting enough playing time. 🤫 😂
Ugh, These trade pods are disappointing to the Max(i)
Cam johnson if we can somehow get him
He would do.
No he is bad on defense and we need a 4. Also don't like his deal.
What happen Jamarion sharp
How long is Maxi's leash. He needs to be cut off.
I really don't get our Finney-Smith love.He was here, he was traded. Lets move on. Toppin would be literally a perfect fit here.
Gaf for Naz Reid, who says no?
The wolves probably 😂
I do. Naz Reid isn't the shot blocker that Gafford is
Did that matter agaisnt celtics? Lmao Naz is trade is impossible but he will make difference@beastscale1892
Lively cant Play I would Trade him over Gafford
Dorian on expiring makes me wanna trade klay even more... need that money for the summer
Playoff rotation: Luka, Kyrie, Marshall, Grimes, Gafford, Lively, Thompson, Washington, Maxi, Dinwiddie. In my mind, everyone else is tradeable. Playoff basketball is completely different than first half of the regular season basketball. You might play 8-9 players. Maybe. Depends on injuries and what not.
this might sound crazy but they should trade for poole just imagine poole and grimes off the bench
Maxi is ass trade maxxi & Hardy
Maxi is definitely a trade candidate
Maxi is not in the rotation and offers nothing but size as a slow defender.
@@beastscale1892 Good luck finding another 6'10" swing man who can guard 3-5 and shoot the 3.
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Isaiah Stewart, Paul Reed, Trey Lyles, Larry Nance, and Obi Toppin are all realistic options we could get for Maxi's spot. Technically DFS too, but he's not the best option if it costs us a FRP for a backup big....
Luka and Kyrie missing each other on the floor reminds me of The Lake House with Keanu and Sandra Bullock.
Develop Omax. Maxi for Omax.
You guys are boring 😢😢😢
Obi Toppin is trash. Sure, he's super athletic, but that doesn't mean he's good. He's not a good shooter, rebounder, or defender. And you have to pay him 13-16 million and some decent assets to the Pacers?? Super PASS.
Give me Larry Nance. Cheaper option to buy. He's an expiring contract this year. And he is better than Maxi
I dont understand why people are so down on Maxi. Kidd trusts him. He is familiar with the defensive system under Sweeney. He knows his role. He is a glue guy on defense. He does stuff that doesn't show up in the stats. Coach could bench him and he would still support his teammates like a vet.
I understand he isn't worth 11 Mil anymore. But 18 Mil for Rui, or 16 Mil for Obi, to play 10 min of the bench?? And those guys only contribute on offense. Mavs need a back up 4 who thinks defense first. He has to cover up a lot for Dinwiddie and Hardy.
Problem with Maxi is not what he bring to the court. His problem is staying on the court. Too many injuries and Omax is clearly not ready.
@@96wtfomg Marshall could play the back up 4 as well. If Maxi is injured. It isn't ideal but I would not waste any assets for a back up who plays limited minutes. Longterm I still think Omax can be that guy. I like his size and his motor. He seems like a great guy.
@@fabianfrey7649Naji is too small as 4 tho that's why when PJ was injured and Naji played while he is great at defense and offense he is one of the reasons they were on a 4 game losing stretch because he isn't good at rebounding. And it can be easily noticed when PJ comes back and they are back at being a great rebounding team again and also winning.
That all gets negated when he is getting paid 11 million this season. He isn't doing anything. He was mixing up his defensive assignments last game against the Blazers. Turned down open 3s just to turn the ball over. He is a slow clunky defender who also refuses to shoot. That's what he is now so stop the cap. We seen it in these games without Luka that he wasn't making an impact and in this game with Luka..... he still doesn't make an impact. 0/5 for 2 points in 27 minutes against the tanking Blazers. Normally I wouldn't point to one game for a player but this has been his season averages for almost 3 years now. It's time for him to go.