Mark Rothko at Tate Modern | TateShots
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- Опубліковано 29 жов 2024
- In 2008/09 Tate Modern presented an exhibition of the late works of Mark Rothko. The show's curator, Achim Borchardrt-Hume, takes us on a tour featuring the iconic Seagram Murals, Black-Form paintings, and the Black on Grey paintings -- the last series made before Rothko's death in 1970.
We find out how much importance Rothko placed on the way his work was displayed, and why these mysterious rectangles of layered pigment hold such enduring appeal.
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When I was art college and saw Rothkos work Id laugh and call it trash that was until I actually stood in front of one in person. It wasnt one of these but the one I saw felt like I was standing in sunshine, I felt warm and loved. Absolutely surreal experience when I came to the painting completely cynical.
Seeing the paintings on a flat computer screen really doesn’t give them justice, the way that the different paint layers interact differently with the light gives them a dimensionality that’s lost when photographed and reproduced.
I didn't really get Rothko until I visited the Tate and the Rothko room. I found them incredibly moving, I could almost feel the mans presence it was haunting. The atmosphere was incredible.
I think alot of us had that moment. Cheers!
I think, any HUGE canvas/or, sculpture is going to have, at least, some effect on us...; if I took a single 'pin'...and, blew that pin up to be supersize...200 foot pin...everyone would stop and 'stare'...and, think to themselves isn't this huge pin absolutely 'amazing'...and, how the artist had taken such a humble object...and, made into being the primary subject of art...; thus, implying that there are lots and lots of things...that we, mostly, don't even notice...unless that thing is put into some odd sort of context. But, to me, that is all related to being 'intellectual' art...or, in other words, total crap! Bullshit is NOT art...in my view.
I want to see work by people who can really draw/paint...even, Basquiat...! But, Rothkos, big blank/almost 'empty' canvases just leave me feeling totally lifeless/bloodless/cold. It has got to be some of the art worlds biggest BS ever...; and, to think it sells for, literally, MILLIONS...and, is brought/owned by major galleries all over the world...and, books and books are written about it...lol...total joke! Victor Vasarley, yes...Jean Dubuffet, yes...Andre Masson...but, Rothko...no way, never ever...completely forget it! NOTE: I'm always willing to accept that I might be missing something...; but, I do seriously doubt it...?! Rothko's art is nothing else but merely a joke. Auerbach, yes!
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@@PaulRamnoramaybe that was his point or plan. it's all subjective. sure made you feel some type of way. honestly with your long response I think the paintings are wonderful. sparked emotion.
Rothko is so made fun of and degraded but I find him so deep and his use of colors really draws you into them, you feel like you’re floating through light and colors!! I do love Rothko. I’m pretty sure what he does and how he combines colors is very hard to replicate.
So many of his paintings. my jaw dropped as the narrator led us from room to room to yet more rooms full of Rothko's work. It's like a stroll thru a garden of universes.
And you saw this in the video? The video makes them all look bland and monochromatic. No subtlety whatsoever.
I've seen 6 Rothko's in person. Each one was like a universe. The idea that someplace on earth there were ROOMSFUL of his works, one after another, like a garden of universes, is astonishing. An embarrassment of riches, if you will.
Be that as it may, the resolution of this video definitely does NOT show any subtlety whatsoever. Those blacks all looked exactly the same.
this is an excellent assessment of Rothko's work. I love Rothko because it's a different exploration of feeling than theater or literature. it's in a painterly form. he's deceptively simple. he is just being direct and as clear as possible. he captures the essence of deep feeling through color exchange within the painting. you have to know what you're looking at-and this assessment helps greatly.
I was a non-believer as well, until I saw one of his pieces at a museum in Arkansas(!) whilst on LSD. Needless to say, I'm a disciple now. His use of color as subject and medium is just indescribably visceral and gorgeous, sublime and overpowering. Genius.
Every artist creates a world of unique perception and vision. Rothko’s world forces one into solitude, isolation, and quietness. It’s a contemplative world where we experience our own thoughts and emotions. It’s a solemn, questioning world of mystery and darkness. An artists personality is always a part of his artwork, no matter how hard he tries to separate it out. For me, rothkos depression is present as mood and color choices. Reducing a painting to just a few colors creates thoughts of a dark void of unknown.
I have always love art that requires technical skills such as those of renaissance painters. I hated artworks by Rothko as they seem too easy. But now looking at them, my mind goes numb and I can just stare at his work for a long time. I guess you either feel it or you don't.
It's kinda irrelevant, but I got it while under the influence of LSD. Transformative.
Knowing full well who Rothko was but not being a particularly big fan, while spending an afternoon at the old Tate Gallery (now Tate Britain), I bumped into "The Rothko Room" and went in. The space felt smaller than the one where these paintings now hang at the Tate Modern, the paintings closer and the lighting dimmer, a more intimate experience. For reasons I could not articulate at the time and can only partially and clumsily do now (something strongly to do with a sensation of impermanence the art expresses), I almost burst out crying in there, stumbled out of the room 20 minutes later a full-blown Rothko believer.
Ten years later, recently married and back in London, my wife and I visited the recently-opened Tate Modern and I hurried her along directly to the Rothko Room. So I had the honor and privilege of seeing the Seagrams' paintings in two different rooms. Is it my memory failing me, or was the older setting really smaller?
beautifully produced esp. the gorgeously fluid tracking shots and ghostly time-lapse photography. also wonderfully informative about Rothko and the exhibition. thx.
I find Seagram Murals so amazingly evocative....I think of the final days of our planet, just before swollen Sun is about to engulf it....
5:19 -- I really like the one on the right.
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Rothko's dark ptgs r unbelievable I can sink into them and feel warm and safe
I cried when I saw them this June
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well said! I remember standing in front of a rothko painting looking at it and being unable to move... His art is really beyond words. I'm always upset on people saying "huuh? I could do that, too but would you care?" It's like with the egg of columbus. There has to be one who does it... and think about when he did this... I think that hardly anyone back in the beginning of the 20th century was thinking about art like this.
@bassmajor was rocking back and forth and had to step back. after that i finally "got it ". this is what i want art to do for me. i want it to capture me and give me that euphoric feeling of serenity or whatever it is meant to do for the veiwer. Rothkos paintings are like a glimpse of the soul to me or a religious painting. ill never forget that exact feeling, it was great. when i look at art or make art, that feeling is what i go for. if i dont get it i scrap the art im doing. i love rothko.
I love this decorative paintings
@bassmajor in 2004 i went to madrid with my teacher to buy guitars and look at all the guitar shops and makers. i wanted to go to the museums bc i had never been to a museum (bc ima bonafide trailer parker). so im in the bornemiza museo and looking at all the art. i walk past the rothko there and i thought, what?! this is art!? so i had to figure out why it is art. i walk up to it about 2 ft away and immediately i felt like i was being overwhelmed. it literally pulls you into the painting,...
Rothko the trend setter of contemporary art.
When they walked into the room of black paintings with the guy talking, and then cut to the black paint, it was like an artistic version of the office.
I'm not yet convinced this isn't satire.
Love the art & artist.
i agree. i personally think when one ridicules another the first person (the ridiculer) does not realize they are actually (symbolically) pointing out flaws in themselves.
I can understand how some people would find Rothko's work unimpressive or gloomy, but I think we need it to show the different sides of artistic expression - without Rothko, we could never fully appreciate someone like Monet, and without Monet, we wouldn't know the importance of Rothko, in my mind.
It is sad to see the ropes in front of the paintings due to some nut job who defaced one of the Seagram murals. So now the viewer has to stand at a pre determined distance and therefore cannot view the works as they were intended to be viewed. This is what the world comes to when nothing is sacred to anyone, they rip these things from an entire society, depriving the world of an entire experience.
Take two colors, make a shape, blend them slightly. Rothko recreation done.
Rothko is a nut job
Excellent observation. Rothko once stated a viewer should be 18" from the canvas, but to get the subtleties one should be right up to it.
Maestro_T just no
@@durfdurffigan8680 It's amazing that Maestro T totally missed the point of the original poster.
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You have to get into a certain mind set when viewing modern art, and open your mind to different ways of expression. I find Rothko's pieces incredibly moving, having seen them a couple of times, but my younger self would have thought of them as bull shit. They make you think, if you are open minded enough to not just cast them aside as trash.
keep an open mind and buy my art piece. ppl say its just a square. but if u have an open mind, its more than just a square. it is more of a box and u have to think outside of the box on the true meaning of the piece of art. u can pm me n ill show u the drawing. it should be worth millions but i can sell it to you for 100k cos i appreciate ppl who appreciates art.
I have a problem with new youtube version XDD wtf i didn't want to respond to this comment, i wanted to respond to Catman comment.
You were right the first time. Don't be afraid.
@jpapare I disagree with you both. While I know Rothko typically wanted his pictures hung low and close together, these works were made for the Four Seasons restaurant and were going to be hung fairly high in that space. So, I think the installation here is meant to resemble that view.
I would have loved to have seen this in 4k+
gran Rothko !! como puede jugar con el espacio y con el espectador ... impresionante
exact conclusion i came to...strength and power, not decline i saw the 79 traveling show
@jeffreycollins You are so right about this show having been hung too high. They are uncomfortably high, even higher from the floor than one would normally hang work this size. It kind of rings of a curator becoming more important than the works of art.
amazing
I'm a massive fan of Rothko, but a 360p video description of the black-form paintings is a hard-sell to those that don't get him.. lol
this video is 12 years old lol
It isn't lost on me that the black and gray series coincided with the alledged moon landing. 1969. I tend to think Rothko and Kubrick were more alike than one might initially imagine.
A common and pedestrian misinterpretation. However, the blacks represent the Black 1969 Chevrolet Camaro, Rothko's favourite car, and the greys represent the large grey metal box which was delivered to the office of Leonard Kleinrock in 1969 and marked the birth of the internet. One either _gets_ Rothko or one doesn't.
@@Valelacerte that has nothing to do with experiencing his work, and nothing with "getting" Rothko.
If your understanding of Rothko must start with researching the autobiographical trivia ( such as his favourite car ) in these paintings, then you aren't really "getting" Rothko.
@@gitnjur My comment was about 3 years ago, but I believe that there wasn't a word of truth in anything I wrote. I was merely taking the piss out the pretentious shit that people say about art.
@@Valelacerte ahaha fair enough my man
The first paintings are mounted too high, about 12-18 inches too high, requiring viewers to look up rather than out at the work. The next room of dark paintings are right.
Those would look terrific in my family room , especially over my chocolate brown couch , juxtaposed to the velvet Elvis I got at Barbs’ garage sale in April.
One can project whatever one likes onto these paintings, but they are just simple geometric shapes in a very narrow palette of colours. If no one had told attendees who the artist was or what his message was, they wouldn't be sitting there in feigned awe and reverence claiming to feel and see things that simply aren't there.
They just ignore it and move on lol 😅😅😅
Nowadays it is hard to enjoy the room with the Seagram Murals because of smartphones. That room is a temple and you can't be there undisturbed because of technology.
yer I bet that is annoying
Shapes upon the plain gives him the glory or do I say plane
I'm very sorry but I just don't get it...?! I have a really sneaky feeling that if a person wants to explain art 'intellectually'...then, it's possible to explain a dot...as the world...the universe...an ant crawling on the canvas...it is an atom...; and, so on... But, to me, truly GREAT art doesn't need any 'intellectual' explanation at all...; you just look...and, immediately, think to yourself this is really good. When I look a Mark Rothko canvases...I just think to myself...what a load of crap...?! It's a hoax that the art world has decided to play upon us all...; by pricing his, literally, almost 'empty' canvases...in the MILLIONS of pounds.../or, even, HUNDREDS of MILLIONS of pounds...so, people are just totally 'blinded' by all that money figure, alone...thinking this must be what truly GREAT art looks like...; however, to me, it is most surely not.
I prefer looking at Rubens, Watteau, Boucher...Picasso, Dali/even, Miro/-etc. But, Rothko's work...I really don't get it at all..? People break down and 'cry' before his canvases...what are they, nuts...?! I have walked into galleries such as Tate Britain/Tate Modern...where I've seen whole entire rooms devoted to showing off Rothko's work...; and, I try my best to sit down there for a while...and, just watch...trying to figure out what's truly 'great' about it...? But, no, after a while...I just think I've had enough of looking at this complete crap...and, frankly, I just can't wait to leave. Pollock, at least, was good...; Kline was good...; but, Rothko...no way. Not unless, I must be seriously missing something...somewhere...or other...
I don't get it
Yes, well...
Black squares......what the actual hell
I think some people look at a painting and expect it to solve some kind of problem in their lives. maybe this is why abstracts can be more difficult for some.
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I don't trust the colours of the Tate Rothkos to be true to the artist's intentions. The pigments used in his crimson toned pictures are known to be very impermanent. Some have faded, others have turned towards duller purples. Waxing lyrical about plumish blacks, maybe true to Rothko's desires, or it could just be very misleading.
Sa peinture me laisse un peu froide mais par contre son analyse du monde et de l'art me subjuguent.
Alright init, ain’t no bacon tho
Is this the series he created basically to punish ‘rich bastards’? Not his best work 😒
The Emperor Has No Clothes. He's fooled you all.
these people did a deal with satan or something
The emperor has no clothes.
. . . and his critics have no brains.
@@TheStockwell so what is so good about it...I would rather see a naked emperor than Rothko's so-called pretentious fraudulent art
@@aspiknf Mostly, it's the size of his work, not the goofy fanboy worship about his importance or colour theory or whatever. It's their massive scale and ambition that makes his stuff work. It's like Miles Davis's music. It's not for everyone and you either get it or you don't. You're not a sensitive genius just because you adore it - and you're not an unsophisticated moron if you don't. All I can say is that it wasn't until I was standing with a Rothko right in front of me that I thought, "Okay, now I see what the big deal is all about." Before then, I thought his work was okay - if you like pretentious, overrated, auction house cliches. Have a great year, wherever you are. 🐧
compared to francis bacon....hmmmmm......
I spent Sunday staring at a Mark Rothko painting in an attempt to understand it. In the end, it still still didn't get it. His painting, like so many artists, reminds me of the children's story "The Emperor's New Clothes". Bottom line, it's what an artist can fool the public into believing is great art when it really isn't.
scribe712, Define "great art."
Here's the beginning of that description: something that hasn't been done before...and something that can't be recreated. That latter point is where the avant-garde fails. This stuff was only innovative.
Extacly. And commentator inventing of this and that lol means shit
I am a lover of art, and I saw a rothko in the centre pompidou. I understand that the topic is pure color, but I am not really exited, I was rather disappointed when I saw it after all the hype about rothko. and I think it is ok and normal, that I dont like it so much.
I walked into the Rothko rooms and it didn't move me either. When I went to the national gallery, man, I was really impressed with most of the art.
this sound is waaaay too quiet
What is this ?
I've got one of these in my back yard, it's just waiting for someone to come along and talk utter bollocks about it, and no, l don't need to open my mind up.
Francis Bacon loathed this called it a depressing horrible color
Just because he made 30 doesn't mean they're all magical.
El pintor que se suicidó.
This is how people becomes foolish.... and they will take it as granted
100 brown pictures... boring
I wish I could become as famous as this person, I can do better art lol.
Boffffff. Ffffffffffffffffff
no, just a regular dirty thrift store with no air conditioning, a rack of nasty bent up shoes, dollar t-shirts and an electronic section that looked like it came out of a 1970s trailer park after a tornado
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I just don't 'get' Rothko !!
Was he genuine or was he laughing at us ?
+mary murphy Hi Mary, we have nine Rothko's on display at Tate Modern right now. Why not take a look and see what you think? www.tate.org.uk/whats-on/tate-modern/display/mark-rothko-0
There's nothing to get. The guy loved maroon and made money from it lol.
laughing at us lol
Warhol was definitely laughing at us. I've never seen a Rothko in person. My art appreciation instructor in college swears that there is something "spiritual" about Rothko's work. But I just don't see it in reproductions and videos. In this video for example, they all look like bland monochrome canvases.
Howard Wiggins "art appreciation instructor" made me vomit. Art is there to be seen and you don't have to be taught to like it, you are allowed to hate something at first glance.
I think that a lot of educated people deceive them selves when it comes to art.
They don't!
Frankly, these paintings are completely meaningless
Look at his face, trying to convince himself lol.
Crappy as hell !!!!
Awful
I have a block of concrete that I want to sell you for 100 million dollars. Its worth it cuz some douchebags in New York said it "moved" them in 1954. The concrete is so textured.
Lol looks rubbish
Your face is
Rothko couldn't paint so he does abstract
He definitely could, before he made these types of paintings he made some impressive detailed stuff, this isn't the only types of paintings he made, but these are what he is famous for.
Well no. His figurative work and surrealist phase were not all that. He came into his own with abstraction.
@@joshsmith7812 No he did not, all his other so-called complex art paled in comparison to Michelangelo, Leonardo Da Vinci, Botticelli, Raphael, young Piccaso.
@@joshsmith7812 not better than one polish painter Zdzisław ! His shit was fire and dark, crappy apocalyptic death 💀 not this crap lol
So stfu
What a terrible interior...
these are the type of painting that belong in a thrift store