Remington 700 5R Gen 2 Stainless - 6.5 Creedmoor Accuracy
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- Опубліковано 9 січ 2020
- Garrett tests out his brand new Rem 700 in 6.5 CM. This is a high quality heavy fluted barreled 6.5 Creed with a HS Precision stock. This is an Out of the box accuracy test. We will be running some hand loads coming soon! If you'd like to help out, give us a thumbs up. That helps to spread the video to more people.
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Nice review, Garrett. It's good to see you guys putting out some more videos. I will be back to supporting you on patreon right quick.
John that is highly appreciated. You are one of the few. Hopefully we can get more viewers over there and really help us take off. Every bit helps.
@@ChuckinTV I wish you guys had more supporters too. Solid shooting and hunting content on your channel deserves more viewers. Maybe you would consider doing some more reloading videos? Just a thought. I know you said you both have full time jobs, which doesn't leave much time to generate content.
8626John thanks a lot! I plan to be getting more involved with some loading videos as well as full firearm videos out here in MO. Thanks for your support! - Garrett
Just got ours and it shoots all my reloads well with 123 grain Sierra match king bthp and hornady 143 grain eld x with Mir 4350 and varget. Thank you for the video. Great job
Mark thank you very much!
Garrett did a great job producing and editing this video. Show some love and throw a like on this video!
Dave Alexander very cool! I’ll have to check them out! - Garrett
I run a 6-5 PRC and love it The six-fives kick butt!
Last Remington 700 ever. After doing the standard upgrades of bedding the receiver lug and putting in a new trigger, I took to the range and ran a box of Hornady 140 grain through it with impressive results. As l go to place it back in the case I notice the cerakote on the receiver not just flaking off but coming all off. Three in a row with issues out of the factory. The other two were from sloppy quality control with the chamber. Local gunsmith was a factory rep. Very disappointed and my new rifle is now in Remington limbo land. Tried a Tikka and Bergara both shoot great without the upgrades. Sorry Remington love the way they shoot but your competition is making theirs better.
I switched to 6.5CM this year out of a Savage 110 Storm and I love it. I'm using the Hornady 129 grain American Whitetail and it's very accurate. I also shot it through 1/2" board and then into gallons of water to catch the bullet...I got excellent retention and expanded to 3/4" at the widest point. That round is a great all around hunting and target round.
Good video. Glad to see my 6.5 isn’t the only one that didn’t like the Winchester rounds. I was really thinking something was wrong with my gun.
Yeah it’s a Winchester thing
Good to know on some of that ammo. I was always a bolt gun hunter but stopped hunting 12+ years ago. A couple years ago I purchased a S&W Performance Center 6.5, thinking it will be cool to shoot at the range but never as accurate as a bolt rifle. It's defiantly not against a bench rifle, but a bolt rifle out of the box? With that Hornady match ammo it is consistent at -.75" 5 shot ragged hole groups shooting off a atlas bipod. The rifle shoots accurate enough with that ammo I haven't even bothered hand loading for it yet. A friend keeps hitting me up about going hog hunting so I may try the accuracy of something like Gorilla ammo and hand load some ammo. The Hornady match is hard to beat for paper shooting
I ordered a Remington 700 Sendaro 26" heavy barrel in 25-06 and 300 win mag when they were first introduced back in mid-90's. Was able to set both factory triggers at 1.5 - 1.75 lb, have not checked them but both feel the same today. Now 25 years later the new 700 trigger sucks, that's messed up. I loved deer hunting with my 25-06 and hand loaded Nosler bullets, took deer out to 525 yds and never had to track a deer, probably took over 50 deer with that rifle. But every time I get behind the 6.5 at the range I think to myself, I wish I would have had this when I deer hunted!
Three ammos I've used w my 6.5 that are really outstanding and probably better than all you used but the "Match" are Hornady Precision Hunter, Hornady Superformance and Berger Match Grade Elite Hunter (yellow box). The Berger was the most versatile in that it performed well in two different rifles, while the other two were each best in a specific one of the two rifles.
Looks like it might like longer/ heavier pills from that display of the ELD-Ms. Most of the people I know that have a 6.5CM with an 8 twist shoot around the 140 weight. Should definitely load up some GMX to try not only on deer but shredding some chucks! Can't wait to see your hand loading results. Love where you guys are taking the channel.
Awesome review-- straight to the point and no fluff/brand jerking. Pointed out what works and what doesn't, no BS.
Also, just an idea for you guys, I personally would love to maybe see some vids of you two taking down some coyotes with some of your rifles! (especially the 7mm and this 6.5 😍)
Edit* said .300 instead of 7mm... been watching too much KEO lol
Thanks for watching and commenting as always. I would love to get some coyotes on video. We just don't actively hunt them very often. It's hard to find the time sometimes. Thanks for acknowledging our non - shilling approach to reviewing products. That's why we do it.
Wow. I couldn’t believe my eyes. I just picked up your channel a couple weeks ago. Didn’t even know where you are from. I saw this video and noticed you were at Scrivner shooting range. I’ve been there 1000 times. That’s crazy!
Glad to have you on board. Garrett lives down that way. Also check out Huntline TV, as he is the editor/cameraman/hunter on that channel as well.
@darin Braun that’s awesome! Yessir I
Live just north of Jeff City. It was a raining nasty day yesterday but perfect day for the range!
Wow that’s awesome. I know all the Barnhart boys. Good friends with them. I was actually coyote hunting out that way the other day.
Darin Braun I actually work for Dr Sam haha. I produce the Huntline show as well.
Small world! Lol
The Remington 700 5R Gen 2 Stainless has a black Cerakoted barrel and sand color HS Precision stock. How did you get yours with a stainless finish and green stock like the Gen 1s?
Love the vids man. I sub'd. I always wonder whats up with the barrel cooling between groups. I just picked up a Delta 5 and took to the range yesterday for first time. Shot five 5 shot groups back to back to back with different ammos. All groups were sub MOA 3 of the 5 were .75" or less. Does the cooling of the barrel really make a difference? I had 0 fliers or anything. I am brand new to precision shooting so just asking here I have no knowledge other than that experience from yesterday.
Niiice!!! Time for a supressor and some handloads 😁
Garrett could get a suppressor. He lives in MO. Can't wait to see what hand loads do too.
great review
Thanks. I'm in process of checking out some of your videos as well. Good stuff guys.
@@ChuckinTV We appreciate that! new episode coming tomorrow
Ive been looking for that rifle online, but they all have the tan and black webbing stock with black finish on the metal parts. Is that an early 2nd gen?
Good video well edited. My suggestion to you on your next purchase front and rear sandbags. Myself who tries to get the most out of the rifles I always use a good bench set up then Im testing the rifle not my rest and myself. Of course a person is always testing themselves. Friends that own the first generation 5R remingtons they get fantastic groups out of those rifles. I would expect the one you tested to do better. You did a great job with the video. I'm going to look into more of your videos.
I’ve since gotten a set of bags that “match” each other. Truth be told this was much more stable than a bipod and rear bag is (which I’ve shot off of plenty). I’ve got a set of bags that I’ve been handload testing off of and they work very well. You think factory Ammo should / would have shot better out of this gun if I had better bags? Your friends g1 r700’s have gotten better groups out of factory Ammo with factory triggers as well?
Chuckin' I believe that a better bench set up could have gotten better results on some of that ammunition. When you were getting the big big groups that is the ammunition but some of those smaller groups I believe could have tighten up because of the bench set up. The ones that my friends have shot with the match ammunition is 5/8 - 3/4 inch groups at 200 meters. Those rifles are tack drivers. I believe the one you have in that caliber could shoot better. Yes it was a factory trigger but I’m not sure if it wasn’t worked on. Yes factory ammunition. When I also test ammunition handloads or factory I also load them one shot at a time. I’ve noticed with my hunting ammunition that if I shoot one or two shots from the magazine that the lead tip gets flattened with the rest that are in the magazine so my thought on that is maybe it affects accuracy. I’ve never tested the theory. Maybe I will this year. What are your thoughts? Do you think that the bench set up is important for getting the best results out of your rifle. I’ve gotten good results with a bipod but my rear bag was solid.
Blayne MacPherson I totally agree about the mag loading issue with soft tip bullets. All of my hunting loads are either polymer tipped or open tip (Berger 140gr VLD hunting) and no lead to get mangled. I DO think a bench rest absolutely influences handloads where the tolerances are super tight. I do not believe that a better bench would make factory Ammo shoot any better than this however, I call out any shots I feel are my fault and point them out in the video. During this testing it was a very calm day, about 40 degrees out and I was very solid on the setup I had. We do this test specifically with a brand new rifle and break it in just before I start filming. I broke it in and sighted it in with the American eagle 120gr which you’ll notice shot better than the match Ammo so I found that super interesting, especially being the first Ammo out of the gun. Wait until you see my handload results!!
Chuckin' I can’t wait. I subscribe to your channel. I like to see this kind of progression in videos here’s out of the box here different factory and now here handloads. Fantastic. As one of my favourite lines in a movie “aim small miss small.”
I have the 24” fluted barrel version. I sold the stock and put the action and barrel in a Master piece arms BA competition aluminum chassis as well as changed the trigger to a Triggertech special trigger. The original bolt handle broke off trying to remove stuck S&B casings with a rubber mallet. I sent the barreled action to Rifles Inc to tig weld a longer EGW bolt handle and their accurizing service as well as installing a side bolt release. I reload 6.5 Creedmoore using Hodgden 4340 powder, Hornady 147 gr ELD match bullets, and previously Hornady brass and Federal large match primers. It’s a 1/2 moa gun.
Yikes on the S and B getting stuck. That sounds like a nightmare.
@@ChuckinTV Now I don’t shoot or use S&B 6.5 Creedmore brass just throw them away. Now I mainly buy and reload Hornady.
I have the 5r gen 2 stainless but it's cerakoted. Where did you find a stainless version?
Well you just sold a gun for Remington. I’ve been looking for a review on this very rifle. I’m super impressed.! No need to reload if it shoots like that. People talk about Remington’s quality control being terrible but your rifle seems to be excellent!
It's a hit or a miss really, unfortunately there are alot of misses with new Remingtons. My little Savage Axis II shoots dime sized groups at 100yrds with 140gr Federal Fusion.
KingLT82 savage rifles normally shoot very well.! I just can’t get over all the plastic and the bolt.
We will be reloading for sure. Can't afford to keep shooting rounds at 1.50$ a piece.
A 5r is not a standard Remington tho they shoot better and the action feels significantly better.
What was your MV with Hornady 140ELD? Thank you.
143gr eldx hand loads in mine are lazer accurate, i run with a coal of 2.877 which for me is 10 thou off the lands with reloader 16. the eldm and eldx just cant be beat, great bullets
All depends on where they hit on the lands for your specific gun. My mag won’t let me push past 2.830. Luckily my 123 eld’s land at 2.825 and shoot amazingly well. Be sure to check out my follow up review for hand loads soon!
I thought Gen 2 had a cerakote and the original 5R is just stainless... I could be mistaken.
you should have tried the precision hunter 143 gr and the federal Berger 130gr boat tail match the results were impressive from my rifle with all rounds I tried including nosler ballistic tip 130 gr, hornady American gunner, hornady precision hunter, Winchester deerseason xp, federal Berger match, and federal fusion from a bergara b14 hunter all but one was under an inch
Megadeth Maniac can’t afford that stuff haha. Wait until you see the reloading result ;)
Did you do a barrel break in? If yes what was it?
The 5r gen 2 is normally black cerekoted how did he get that gun that way ? The Gen 1 comes in that stock normally and that gun doesn't show on their website?
James Boreman this is a sports south exclusive gun.
Try the federal ammo that is loaded with the Berger bullets in that gun and see how well they shoot.
What ya sporting for a scope? I'm pretty sure I'm getting a r5 in 308.
Jeffrey Nye hey! The scope is a Vortex 4-16x44 Diamondback Tactical FFP. I bought it originally for my RP rimfire and then tore it off for the weaver that’s on it now. So this one was sitting around waiting for a new home!
143 eld x is an accurate and deadly load for myself.
I have T/C venture 30-06 that has 5R rifling bought it after loosing a remington custom 700 do to a house fire. Hornady 165 gr.SST 5 shot groups you can cover with a nickle. Cant beat 5R rifling
Sorry to hear about the fire. T/C makes a pretty damn accurate bolt action for sure.
Where did you find this gun in stainless I’ve only been able to find it in the matt?
Ron Barrow I mean, this is matte stainless. Is that what you mean?
Chuckin' I’ve only been able to find it in the black stainless with the sand colored stock in the 6.5 Creedmoor, is yours polished stainless with the Green webbing stock?
Didn’t know you could get the 5r gen2 in stainless and black with green webbing hs stock.
Jeffrey D don’t quote me on this, but I was told this was a Sports South (distributor) exclusive. This has the fluted bull barrel as well while most had a normal bull barrel
Is that a Gen 1?
5R rem is a different animal. I have one in 308 and it's accurate as hell 🤓
Definitely a few cuts above a standard 700.
@StephenAnthonyJr My 5R 308 does one inch groups at 200 yards with REM 168gr match ammo and FGMM 168.
@StephenAnthonyJr I'm late by saying this the reason why people say remington is a bad gun is because of the trigger and the law sued that came with it. People claim that the gun would fire without pulling the trigger and by touching the bolt the gun will go off I personally don't own a gun and I know for a certain people are on both sides of the fence some say it's a great gun others say it's a terrible gun but I look at all the recent videos of remington and a lot of them are positive. I mean there are some negative here and there but overall the person reviewing the gun are happy that they bought it when you have a gun that have a lot of aftermarket I think you can upgrade it if you don't like the current look of the Remington.
@StephenAnthonyJr the quality at Remington went down the drain the last 5 or so years because the CEO drove it into the ground. They were like Taurus at one time when QC was questionable. Taurus did a 180 turn and has made a comeback at least in the lady 5 years.
What’s the barrel length?
That barrel has a fast twist for the heavier match bullets, no wonder it sprayed the 120’s
Kent Croy sprayed the 120’s? Did we just watch the same video? Lol the 120 AE had the best group. The GMX just shot like garbage. I don’t think that and anything to do with the rifling twist. With the faster twist rate of 1:8 it just means it CAN stabilize those heavier bullets better than a slower twisting barrel. Wait until you see my handloading video with this gun.
Chuckin', no offense intended, that rifle is capable of 1/2 moa, my 5R, in 308, shot 1/2” ctc groups at 200yds, I shot six 199’s at 600yds, with a sling. If you remove as many variables as you can when handloading, you should be able to get five shot groups you can cover with a dime. In my 6.5-06ai, with 142 SMK’s, at 2950 aprox, shoots 1/2moa all day.
Kent Croy I guess I should have used a tape for you. The American eagle and the hornady match are both sub MOA and this gun is BRAND NEW. Keep watching, I have hand loads done for it and this thing is shooting ¼ moa.
I run a APA Little Bastard brake on mine
Remington is a pretty good basic gun for the money, however, I like Savage better for an out of the box gun. My approach is to find a 30 year old gun remove and replace the stock, rebarrel or change caliber, true the action, remove and replace the trigger and you have a shooter for under $1500.
Stan Malinky if you’ve followed our channel at all, you’ll know we are big fans of the Savage’s we have tested as well! This was my first Remington 700 I’ve bought brand new and in the perfect gun I was looking for. - Garrett
is this rville missouri?
Jake Harris yes it is
The old x mark trigger before the recalls would get down to 2lb or less, "awesome trigger" They must have cut the adjustment down in the new ones so can't accidentally go off when dropped. Thats My 2 cents and the 5r 308 love 168gr hpbt match loads or hand loads with varget powder. 1/2 moa all day
When you say 'pretty light' how many pounds is that exactly. My 700 CDL 30-06 is 9 pounds scoped, are you talking less than that?
Dutch Jennings I actually just weighed it and with this the strike eagle 4-24x50 which weighs more than the diamondback it was right at 10.8lb’s. Not a great pack rifle weight but plenty light for anything I will be doing. And plenty heavy to stay steady on the bench
24 inch barrel, 1:8 twist, 8.5 lbs., $1250. Starting price.
That looks like a gen 1?
Bigmac it’s a Gen 2. Check out the fluting.
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There’s nothing wrong with that factory trigger. It’s definitely no customer trigger though. You need to find the right pill for her and may be even let a friend put some down range. Not the same caliber but my 5r 308 shoots clover leaves all day @ 100yards with fed 168 Sierra match king and can’t remember but also sub moa with the whitetail or fed fusion all box loads factory rifle as it comes out the box. Also try bedding a good scope base and lap your rings if you haven’t. Or may be rem didn’t hit a home run with the 6.5 creedmore 🤷🏼♂️
try some nosler's.
brown dawg 130 AB shot quite bad. Don’t have good luck with nosler’s and I’ll be damned if I’ll pay retail for factory Ammo. I handload and have found great accuracy. Before sure to check out my follow up video for hand loads for this gun when I post it
No offense intended, but with a better bench set up, an actual front rest and rear bag that rifle should do even better.
Looks like the gun likes heavier bullets
Daniel Butler so far it’s basically loving everything. I’ve been handloading for it and have had some pretty amazing results straight out the gate. I’ll be uploading a new handloading video for it in the next week or so. It really loves the 123 hornady ELD
Accuracy on the total copper load sucked. I find all new rifles benefit from a shoot & clean barrel break-in process! Looks like Remington has gotten it’s act together on quality! Groups are terrific!
Dan Ross I broke it in off camera with the American eagle 120 otm and that’s why my zero was set with them. I wish you could post photos on comments and I could show you my new handloads results. Be sure to check out the next video with handload testing
I like these type of videos. Try prone position next time using a quality BiPod and a solid rear rest and I bet you tighten all your groups. Also don't clean your rifle until you see accuracy decrease. I bet your groups tighten. There is something called copper equal Librium going on in your bore and it is possible your best groups will come between 50 and 200 rounds. I have seen my 7MM Mag with over three hundred rounds through it and it still shoots half min groups.
All the hype for creedmoore a 260 will do everything it will do and faster same barrel life 284 x 6.5 just as accurate and a lot faster but hard on barrels but well proven so why a creedmoore cause Hornady said so lol
Punctuate your sentences so we can tell what you're saying.
Needed to clean your barrerl
Robert Carter it has been. Wait until you see the handload results. But I have to ask, why do you say I need to clean the barrel?
For more than 30 years I was a Remington guy-not any more. If we assume that the presenter can shoot, the rifle is awful. I've bought several 700's in the last decade and Remington's quality control doesn't appear to be anywhere near what it was in my experiences. On the recommendation of a gun shop owner I frequent, I bought a Bergara B-14 (Remington 700 clone, only nicer) in the same 6.5 Creedmoor caliber. The rifle is on the light side, but it averaged 3/8" for four three-shot groups at 100 yards in load development. Guys, I'm not very good anymore as I'm 71 years old and my best days are a long ways off in the rear view mirror, so that should tell you something. Remington, please straighten out your act before I'm gone.
At 72 years " young " , I must agree with Mr. Steele . Shot chucks in NYS since 1970 , handloading since 1974 . The junk trigger problem has been solved . Now work up a good handload with a good bullet . Best of luck !
Who makes Remington now it is not as good as your PRC
I don't think you will be happy with the stock either. Replaced the one on my 22-250, went from .750- .875. Down to .250-.375. Yes the trigger is pretty sad, damn lawyers and stupid people.
James T Boehm it’s an HS precision and I absolutely love the stock. Forgot to mention that in the video!
@@garretthamilton7580 that is an entirely different bird. HS is quality.
James T Boehm absolutely man! Honestly one of the biggest draws to this gun for me was it being packaged with the HS stock. It’s a $470 stock by itself and I love the green and black web color combo.
@@garretthamilton7580 seem if you want an accurate remmy it has to have a good platform under it. Plastic sucks.
James T Boehm I would agree with you there! A stock can make all the difference.
get a bigger cartridge,,,,2650 muzzle velocity with 140 gr bullets, 6.5 creed ,,,a 308 can get 3000 muzzle velocity with a 150,,,,grain bullet,,,
2900+ with 123ELD which this gun loves is what I’ll be going with. Will be releasing a hand loading video for this gun soon. Even at 2650 it’s plenty for ANY game in North America. Especially woodchucks and whitetails. We have a bunch of other guns in other calibers if you wanna watch our other videos on those as well.
And no BC ! 30 cal needs 220 gr or more ! To be apples for apples try that for speed in your 308 lol
Chuckin' May l say that you are on the right track with the 123 gr. ELDX at 2950.
The Creed was designed for competitive target shooting over known ranges and it really shines that way.
Having said that l believe it is also a good medium game sized cartridge within 400 yds. with that 123 gr. bullet.
For hunting when things happen fast and you don’t have time to range it and dope it out my personal preference is my .300 win. Mag.
I have never even shot a 6.5 Creed just the 6.5x55 quite a lot which is highly effective on just about anything with the right bullet and picking your shots carefully. That is under 300 yds. so therefore l am only speculating right now🇨🇦🤠
Sadly Remington's QC had gone down hill badly as of late, their rifles and ammo are complete crap compared to what they used to be. I couldn't buy a new Remington with how bad they are nowadays.
Remington had an organizational change over a year ago. They were aware of their diminishing reputation and brought in new leadership who are actually 'end users' (Competitive shooters, Hunters, etc.) as opposed to the 'bean counter', cost savings, cut corners ( remove some QA/QC) types. Since 2013, I've purchased 3 ADLs ( 1 Varmint/ 2 Tactical) for the barreled actions with full knowledge that I may need the services of a local Gunsmith. I have not had any issues with any of the three. My Remington 597 purchased in 2012...well I don't want to write a novel about the magazine issues and the Remington customer service encounter I had. Long Story Short: I purchased 11 magazines to find 4 working magazines without feeding issues. I was able to return the other 7 to the stores I purchased them from.
Bigmac post-2007 Freedom group buyout Remingtons are trash. The QC is non-existent.
Not really a good elk cartridge,you need a minimum of 1800 foot pounds at point of impact!!! Choose your shots and distance carefully!!!!!!!!!!!! 6.5 is not a miracle big game cartridge,regardless of what the manufacturers would have you believe!!!!
scott in Ohio that all depends on how far the shot would take place. Calculating this out, I could shoot an elk at 260 yards and still be above 1800ft lbs. however, if I really knew I was only going for an Elk, I’d take my trusty savage 116 7mm mag :)
@@garretthamilton7580 7MM MAG EXCELLENT!!!!!!!
According to Colorado Parks and wildlife it takes 1500ft/lbs of energy to kill an Elk and at 6000 ft/alt 6.5cm can deliver that at 600 yards and even further if the altitude is higher.
Gs Xr great info!
@@gsxr1189 That is with a perfect hit!!!!!! Yepper,anyone can do that under field conditions!!!!!!! NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You guys are breeding a lot of unethical shots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I can't believe you are shooting "groups" with a front bag and a hunting seat...
J DE worked pretty good didn’t it :)
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Sooo sick of this overrated cartridge... it will be a has been in a few years.
We're definitely not touting that it is the best cartridge in the world. Some of the fan base is a bit cringe for sure. But you can't deny that it is a great balance of power to recoil impulse and just a good all round cartridge.
@@ChuckinTV How does it compare to the .260 Remington?
@@8626John The Creed has a slight boost in performance if any at all. The real difference is availability in ammo and a variety of rifles to shoot these rounds in. 260 just wasn't marketed that much. So there wasn't many rifles chambered in it. The 6.5CM had the benefit of the internet marketing.
22lr makes me sick I'm just sooo tired of hearing about 22lr everytime I see a 22lr video it just makes me sick.........said no one ever but then 22lr never made anyone feel inferior and thanks for telling us how you feel. 🤣🤣🤣
@@8626John 260 has cartridge overall length issues with the longer higher BC bullets that's Hornady only loads 130gr max in 260.