Hey guys! Thanks for the response to this video! I really enjoyed making it, and I'd love to do more analysis/essay-style videos like this in the future! Also a big shoutout for everyone keeping the comments cool, respectful, and spoiler-free!
@@nirn_ i fully believe he read ahead. the "oh i could totally be wrong about things" and then being spot on about it over and over kinda rubs me wrong
Something to think about why Laios' nightmare is this simplistic is because Marcille's Nightmares have been feeding on her for a long time now. They were already there in episode 1! And episode 2 Marcille's nightmare is also very, very simplistic. The implication is that the Nightmares will adapt more and more to you, until they create a dream that literally kills you.
@@TamsCake episode 2 starts with marcille's nightmare, but they went to sleep at the end of episode 1, meaning that the nightmares were in her pillow already.
@@grinstrashcan okay that makes some sense. I guess they don't immediately give you something immediately horrific. It could also be because of all the built up stress she's acquired since ep 1 and the falin chimera thing bringing that fear of mortality and losing friends back to mind, resulting in a more terrifying one. Or maybe both
With 'running faster than others' also has another interpretation, as you get older you slow down. And since she's an elf she has more 'speed' than anyone else because she ages slower so she can run comfortably for a longer timeframe than the other races
Also the happier dream actually does have a symbolism too; as the dog is Laios and the doll is Falin, them “going on a treasure hunt” kinda shows how much the Toudens subconsciously mean to Marcille given Falin is a close friend (maybe more) for her. Abd while she is frustrated with him, Marcille and Laios also clearly have a good friendship too
You say she’s not there, but in the painting with Marcille’s mother overlooking the father’s grave, little Marcille is there, tightly clinging to her left side. It’s easy to miss, but she is there.
Giggling and kicking my feet seeing analysies of this, the anime handled it greater than I could've ever expected. Like I love that Marcilles dream is in grey and that the only splash of colour in there is the yellow of the book, and I also just generally love that Laios used what's basically his mary-sue monster oc to defeat his own nightmares 😭 also very cool to see ur perspective!!
I wonder how Marcille's character arc will conclude. Is she trying to find a way to defeat death? Will she learn the mad mage's immortality spell from his grimoire? Is she going to try and make everyone immortal so that nobody ever leaves her again? I can't imagine that being the ending, with immortality for everyone. Instead, Marcille's arc will probably conclude with her learning to accept death. But does that mean that she's going to accept Falin's death? Unless they find a way to separate Falin's soul from the dragon's soul, it doesn't seem like Falin will ever be human again. Will Laios and Marcille accept that Falin is beyond saving? I'm scared for this sort of depressing ending. I wonder if Marcille and the mad mage might have comparable motivations.
if a literary development is anything to go by, and with the reveal that the mad mage cast a spell of immortality on every person in the Golden City and on the dungeon, then i think it's more likely she'll conquer her fear of her loved ones dying by ending that spell
I don't know if it's a translation issue in the dub specifically or if it's a difference between the official English translation vs. the fan translation I originally read the manga in(I only own a few English volumes of the manga) but I remember what Marcille's mother said to her being "You run at a different pace" rather than "you run faster" than those around you.
Small correction about Marcille being no where in the paintings where her mother is overlooking the grave: She's there collapsed on the ground and clinging to her mother's dress.
As a manga reader, Dungeon meshi is one of those rare shows where if you've read the source material and then proceed to watch the anime it elevates the entierty of if even further. Also you were cooking with that analysis, Senshi would be proud ^^
Omg a breakdown video for this amazing episode love to see it Yea lets not forget marcille is pretty much a necromancer fifhtning death is her ehole thing really nice breakdown
Laios is definitely very talented as magic. It's hilarious how good he is despite not fully realizing, especially because we get this feeling that his skills are sometimes overlooked because of how "weird" he is (to me the shapeshifter ep marks a turn in the party realizing his abilities but I'd say they already believed in him since they followed him all this way). Also Marcille is mostly the only person who can tell us about his level because she's the only one who knows magic.
the way you predicted marcille's whole arc throughout the manga lol. incredible video!!! marcille is my fave and i love her arc a lot so i loved seeing you talk about it and I'm amazed by how on point you got it aaaaa
Great video! Very pleased to hear your thoughts beyond just the reactions. Small correction, at 4:30 you said Marcille is nowhere to be found in the paintings with her mother---But she's there too, at the gravesite, clinging to her mother's leg. It's not a huge difference since the context is still the same, and this still ties into her mother's attempt to explain her situation while Marcille is still inconsolable.
Excellent analysis! It’s so fun seeing anime-only fans analyze and theorize about future plot developments. The nightmare chapter has so much juicy foreshadowing.
Spoilers for the manga... . . . . I was doing a little bit of chapter counting for the remaining episodes and what might be covered by the end of the season, and I suspect that this will end with chapter 52, bacon and eggs... I really do hope we get to that one before the end of this season because that one has a great hook for the next season. We would get their end-game goal.
You are not over thinking anything. This is the level Kui's writing and world building asks its readers to meet it on, an understanding that it won't hide or disrespect your intelligence of the greater story being told through the dungeon along as you are willing to pay attention.
I actually never thought about it until now, but losing one parent during childhood must be standard trauma among first generation half-elves. Even as far back as Aragorn and Arwen’s son Eldarion, what would be way more interesting to see then “what was Aragorn’s tax policy🤓” was how Eldarion had to deal with the reality he will see Aragorn grow old while he is still developing.
Except in Tolkien works, I don't believe he took the odd route of said children developing longer and generally elves who chose to love a mortal were choosing to give up their own immortality. Marcille is in her 60's, and it seems that at least half-elves in the Dungeon Meshi setting do develop over a far longer period of time.
that old mentor with marcille could also just be her father, because elves mature much slower, she still looks like a child while her father is already an old man
I've been excited for the promised theory videos and you did not disappoint!!! The more I think about this episode the more I want to cry to be honest... I'm also an anime only so I don't know exactly what will happen either, but I know it will not be good for my heart, just this scene already destroyed me.
BRO IS COOKING FR FR Haha but real talk, awesome video!! I love your videos, ideas and your voice, I can't wait to hear what other theories you have in any following videos, I've been expecting the top 10 theories since you first mentioned it and I bet the latest episodes might have given you some new ones:D
Laios dream is important too! His fear of rejection and disappointing others, I reeeaaally believe this is plays a huge role in how much he respects Marcille and allies himself with her during his scuffle with Toshiro and everything moving forward. Laios has faced all sorts of abuse for being autistic and a monster lover weirdo. His interests and passions are taboo. Marcille for all intents and purposes was a goofy clumsy lovable straight A student and the best friend of Laios' best friend, his sister Falin. To have her come forward and announce herself as a practicioner of forbidden magic and throwing away her reputation and possibly her freedom to save Falin.. I mean how do you think Laios sees that? And then Marcille faces Toshiro's anger and everyone elses distrust and disdain.. this is really where they become eachothers supporters. Hell Marcille defends Laios from Chilchucks insults in early episodes one or twice, and Laios is always looking out for all the party members, but specifically Marcille. Though that may be because its usually Chilchuck being snarky or Senshi hating magic... either way. Theyve built a solid partnership to save Falin by any means necessary. Theres a lot of trust between the party, but specifically these two. Romance, no romance, whatever. Partners in crime. Black magic save Falin crimes.
Also your theory is really good, it's normal for anime onlys to not be sure and get things wrong but that's also what makes it fun. I was surprized when they showed all those paintings that basically told you Marcille's backstory already, but I also realized that it's harder to put together as an anime only. So I guess it continues this trend of dropping obvious and less obvious hints that will be properly addressed later.
Anime appears to be going through a renaissance with Frieren, Delicious in Dungeon and Bocchi. All of them are far deeper than just adventure-action anime. Thanks for the analysis. It's an interesting dive into a complex character.
I enjoyed this video (and your reactions!) a lot as a manga reader and I love how the anime gives people a chance to theorise a little more than the manga did. Hearing your thought process is really cool and it's lovely to share in how much you're enjoying the series :)
I hope no one will be spoiling you in the coments. Love reading and hearing anime only people coming up with theories. It's like reliving the time when I was reading the manga and the chapters where coming up.
As another anime-only, I wanted to point some things out. The painting of that "older mentor figure" is definitely just her dad, IMO. Same hairstyle, if you look closely, so I don't think the paintings are shown in order. And second, I can't help but notice parallels between Marcille and the Mad Mage, who also seems to be gunning for the same thing she is, considering his relation to Delgal and the golden kindgom. It feels like the obvious narrative for this is that because the Mad Mage has to accept that Delgal is dead and so is the golden kingdom, so will Marcille also have to accept that she can't beat death either, and maybe those plots will tie themselves together? This is assuming my read on the Mad Mage is correct, anyhow. I feel like we're early enough that they could subvert what they've laid down, especially because the latest episode introduces so many more pieces to the plot that I don't even know what to do with.
The other older person in the paintings *is* her father. The hair is the same. We see in another shot that her father looks old in the painting where he's in his bed with Marcille by his side. He didn't die young like Laios assumed, he died of old age. It's actually very depressing to think that he spent his entire life raising his daughter but she was still a child when he died. He never saw her grow up.
Oh my god i never realized before now but no one else was in the graveyard with young laios and falin. We don't know if he could see the mans ghost because he was visible or if the incident that revealed falins magical ability hinted to his as well
Real world facts on hybrids 1) Most hybrids are infertile. Its mainly because of the mismatched number of chromosomes 2) But some hybrids are fertile, but it is very rare. 3) Some hybrids are stronger/better stamina than the parents. Mules are a great example. 4) how a hybrid's looks and health can depend on "who is Mom" and who is "Dad". Example: Horse Mom, and donkey dad, or vice versa.
While I haven’t read the manga, I have gotten some hints and lore from a friend that has, so potential spoilers: I wonder how magic exactly works in this setting, though to my knowledge it is restrained in some way. The Book appears nearly divine in the dream, bringing color to a dulled world, like imagination. If magic calls upon imagination, I wonder if Marcielle’s desperation in a semi-real world has drawn the attention of magic itself, as if it has awakened to her desires? The scene where she pulls the book from Death’s jaws feels… incredibly important. The leitmotif that plays then also plays during Falin’s resurrection and the chimera’s reveal - I think it’s the leitmotif of Ancient Magic, as Marcielle calls it. The fact that those seem to be the only times it plays, and the significance of those scenes… I think that Marcielle has awakened something far more dangerous and powerful than when she gained the ire of the Mad Mage.
As in: that dream was real enough that two REAL people were able to experience it, so perhaps that lent the dream power. Falin said that going into a dream was dangerous - maybe she meant more than just “you could die in there”? And if magic *is* restrained, perhaps those restraints don’t extend as far into dream worlds? Especially if magic is informed by imagination or desire or emotions - things that are heightened in dreams.
I have a theory regarding Laios & Falin having talents in using magic 🤔 perhaps they are descendants of elven race, an elf who was a very powerful magic user centuries ago, I guess? that's why Marcille told Laios something like "it runs in the family/it's in your blood," 🤔 or maybe their ancestors were tallmen who dealt with some black magic in the past and in result there is a side effect/lasting effect that will make their descendants to have some abilities related to the dark magic? who knows? maybe Laios & Falin's ancestor/great grand parents practiced Necromancy? if we pay closer attentions, both siblings can communicate with the spirits or ghosts, am I correct? that is definitely not normal, I guess? even though Marcille is an elven magic user/spell caster, she is unable to see nor communicate with ghosts/spirits the same way Laios and Falin do, right? RIGHT? AM I RIIITTTEEEE? (fangirl mode - ON)
SPOILERS ABOUT RACES IN DUNGEON MESHI (no story spoilers, just worldbuilding) Good catch on how Marcille's father is a human and Marcille is a half elf (with her ears slightly rounder than those of pure elves). What amplifies Marcille's tragedy is that being half-elf is rough in DM world. Half-Elves are sterile, they mature in a wonky way, for example, they can be unable to walk years after being born, and worst of all, because of combination of elven and human blood, they have a lifespan of proto-humans other races stem from, living two and a half times longer than elves themselves (up to 1000 years). So yeah, Marcille has a life full of dead loved ones before her.
or Marcille may not have to endure the loss of her elven friend if her life expectancy turns out to be not much longer than an elf's which could still be a problem, for her as a half-elf, she might only have friends from other races (in particular tall-men, the other half of her blood) who are still shorter living than her she might not care if other elves die before or after her, but she might still grieves over her short-living tall-man & half-foot friends, like she grieved over her tall-man father
In the manga the fact that marcille is only half elf is only revealed many chapters latter. Spoilers The thing is. In the D&D and most fantasy universes a half elf life expectative is of 200 to 300 years while elfs live up to 1000. However, in this universe elfs live up to 500 years and half elfs live up to 1000 years. This happens because in this universe half elfs are like mules. Most elfs became adults at the age of 80, but a 14 years old and a 80 years old half elf can both look like either a 10 years old or a 25 years old human. When Marcille's father died he was 85. The thing is, and this a even bigger spoiler, the Dungeon feeds on wishes, and the mages tomes is the locked body of the Dungeon's Demon. This demon may be unaible to use his full set of powers, but he can hear and feel the urges of the dungeon crawlers. Now that laios made Marcille express her wishes, she is now in danger. Do not wish inside the dungeon, you are going to be eaten.
Hey guys! Thanks for the response to this video! I really enjoyed making it, and I'd love to do more analysis/essay-style videos like this in the future!
Also a big shoutout for everyone keeping the comments cool, respectful, and spoiler-free!
as a manga reader, i love seeing the theories that anime watchers are coming up with about this episode
Yea, this episode is pretty important *wink wink
@@nirn_ i fully believe he read ahead. the "oh i could totally be wrong about things" and then being spot on about it over and over kinda rubs me wrong
Something to think about why Laios' nightmare is this simplistic is because Marcille's Nightmares have been feeding on her for a long time now. They were already there in episode 1! And episode 2 Marcille's nightmare is also very, very simplistic.
The implication is that the Nightmares will adapt more and more to you, until they create a dream that literally kills you.
They were in episode 1? Really?
@@TamsCake episode 2 starts with marcille's nightmare, but they went to sleep at the end of episode 1, meaning that the nightmares were in her pillow already.
@@grinstrashcan okay that makes some sense. I guess they don't immediately give you something immediately horrific. It could also be because of all the built up stress she's acquired since ep 1 and the falin chimera thing bringing that fear of mortality and losing friends back to mind, resulting in a more terrifying one. Or maybe both
@@TamsCakeepisode 1 end with the narration saying "that night, Marcille had a nightmare" you can check it.
@@brenosobral9500 yeah I know, I just thought it was a normal nightmare. Not a nightmare nightmare
With 'running faster than others' also has another interpretation, as you get older you slow down. And since she's an elf she has more 'speed' than anyone else because she ages slower so she can run comfortably for a longer timeframe than the other races
Also the happier dream actually does have a symbolism too; as the dog is Laios and the doll is Falin, them “going on a treasure hunt” kinda shows how much the Toudens subconsciously mean to Marcille given Falin is a close friend (maybe more) for her. Abd while she is frustrated with him, Marcille and Laios also clearly have a good friendship too
Marcille and Laios really feel like siblings to be honest. The pair of weirdoes kinda adopted her.
@@TheStephaneAdam yeee
You say she’s not there, but in the painting with Marcille’s mother overlooking the father’s grave, little Marcille is there, tightly clinging to her left side. It’s easy to miss, but she is there.
I remember seeing that yeah
the best part about being a manga reader is re-experiencing the story through anime-onlies
マルシルの夢は日本語の『廊下』と『老化』が同じ発音というところも面白い
Woah, I love this fact! Thanks for sharing!
Marcille: "You can't beat death!"
Laios: "Then I'll EAT IT!"
Call this man Senshi, cause he is COOKING
Giggling and kicking my feet seeing analysies of this, the anime handled it greater than I could've ever expected. Like I love that Marcilles dream is in grey and that the only splash of colour in there is the yellow of the book, and I also just generally love that Laios used what's basically his mary-sue monster oc to defeat his own nightmares 😭 also very cool to see ur perspective!!
As a manga reader I really appreciate this analysis! Thanks for giving us your thoughts and ideas!
yea, seems elfs have some emotional problems with other people dying and a strong desire as an appetiser *wink wink
4:29 Small nitpick, but Marcille is in the funeral painting. She's on the right one grabbing onto her mother's dress :)
I wonder how Marcille's character arc will conclude. Is she trying to find a way to defeat death? Will she learn the mad mage's immortality spell from his grimoire? Is she going to try and make everyone immortal so that nobody ever leaves her again?
I can't imagine that being the ending, with immortality for everyone. Instead, Marcille's arc will probably conclude with her learning to accept death. But does that mean that she's going to accept Falin's death? Unless they find a way to separate Falin's soul from the dragon's soul, it doesn't seem like Falin will ever be human again. Will Laios and Marcille accept that Falin is beyond saving? I'm scared for this sort of depressing ending.
I wonder if Marcille and the mad mage might have comparable motivations.
if a literary development is anything to go by, and with the reveal that the mad mage cast a spell of immortality on every person in the Golden City and on the dungeon, then i think it's more likely she'll conquer her fear of her loved ones dying by ending that spell
@@EpicMuttonChops Yeah the mad mage is basically Marcille's failure state.
As a manga reader, mild spoiler: she moves on with realisation after a series of cooking in the end.
I don't know if it's a translation issue in the dub specifically or if it's a difference between the official English translation vs. the fan translation I originally read the manga in(I only own a few English volumes of the manga) but I remember what Marcille's mother said to her being "You run at a different pace" rather than "you run faster" than those around you.
yea it is a translation issue even in the sub as well I think. Much prefer the fan translation tho since it has a better implication
in any case, both lead kinda to the same meaning in our case here, so yea no problem for now but let's hope no other problem like this happens again
Not much of a problem, but running at a different pace seems better
Small correction about Marcille being no where in the paintings where her mother is overlooking the grave: She's there collapsed on the ground and clinging to her mother's dress.
As a manga reader, Dungeon meshi is one of those rare shows where if you've read the source material and then proceed to watch the anime it elevates the entierty of if even further.
Also you were cooking with that analysis, Senshi would be proud ^^
I already read the manga once, but I've been re-reading it as the anime progresses, and I don't get bored of it in the slightest.
8:48 no cause was actually given to why marcille got de-petrified, and they mention in that episode that it could have been a lot of things.
He is at least right that Laios is actually pretty good with magic as he got the knack for healing magic when Marcille taught it to him
They also don't know what went right either because they have been trial & error to dispel with magic, and magical reagent.
Omg a breakdown video for this amazing episode love to see it
Yea lets not forget marcille is pretty much a necromancer fifhtning death is her ehole thing really nice breakdown
Laios is definitely very talented as magic. It's hilarious how good he is despite not fully realizing, especially because we get this feeling that his skills are sometimes overlooked because of how "weird" he is (to me the shapeshifter ep marks a turn in the party realizing his abilities but I'd say they already believed in him since they followed him all this way).
Also Marcille is mostly the only person who can tell us about his level because she's the only one who knows magic.
As a manga reader it’s really fun to hear your theories cause they are pretty good and give a different way of looking at information I already have
the way you predicted marcille's whole arc throughout the manga lol. incredible video!!! marcille is my fave and i love her arc a lot so i loved seeing you talk about it and I'm amazed by how on point you got it aaaaa
Great video! Very pleased to hear your thoughts beyond just the reactions.
Small correction, at 4:30 you said Marcille is nowhere to be found in the paintings with her mother---But she's there too, at the gravesite, clinging to her mother's leg. It's not a huge difference since the context is still the same, and this still ties into her mother's attempt to explain her situation while Marcille is still inconsolable.
Excellent analysis! It’s so fun seeing anime-only fans analyze and theorize about future plot developments. The nightmare chapter has so much juicy foreshadowing.
Sometimes, you outrun everyone else in your life. Marcille's nightmare is my own
Bro is absolutely cooking
You could check the first couple of conversations in episode 18 as well :)
with 5 episode left i think this is a clever way to show some parts of the later chapters.
5 episodes left in this season...Which will only go halfway through the Manga's story.
Spoilers for the manga...
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I was doing a little bit of chapter counting for the remaining episodes and what might be covered by the end of the season, and I suspect that this will end with chapter 52, bacon and eggs... I really do hope we get to that one before the end of this season because that one has a great hook for the next season. We would get their end-game goal.
Guess season 2 only about 13 episode huh?
@hafirenggayuda Given that there will be about 45 chapters left, it would be more than 13 episodes unless they speed up.
@@michaelcreel6522 Way more than that, usually it's two chapters an episode; not three. So it's enough for an entire 24 episodes.
You are not over thinking anything. This is the level Kui's writing and world building asks its readers to meet it on, an understanding that it won't hide or disrespect your intelligence of the greater story being told through the dungeon along as you are willing to pay attention.
I actually never thought about it until now, but losing one parent during childhood must be standard trauma among first generation half-elves.
Even as far back as Aragorn and Arwen’s son Eldarion, what would be way more interesting to see then “what was Aragorn’s tax policy🤓” was how Eldarion had to deal with the reality he will see Aragorn grow old while he is still developing.
Except in Tolkien works, I don't believe he took the odd route of said children developing longer and generally elves who chose to love a mortal were choosing to give up their own immortality. Marcille is in her 60's, and it seems that at least half-elves in the Dungeon Meshi setting do develop over a far longer period of time.
that old mentor with marcille could also just be her father, because elves mature much slower, she still looks like a child while her father is already an old man
Yeah that man has the bow her father wore so it’s probably the same person.
I've been excited for the promised theory videos and you did not disappoint!!! The more I think about this episode the more I want to cry to be honest... I'm also an anime only so I don't know exactly what will happen either, but I know it will not be good for my heart, just this scene already destroyed me.
BRO IS COOKING FR FR
Haha but real talk, awesome video!! I love your videos, ideas and your voice, I can't wait to hear what other theories you have in any following videos, I've been expecting the top 10 theories since you first mentioned it and I bet the latest episodes might have given you some new ones:D
Laios dream is important too! His fear of rejection and disappointing others, I reeeaaally believe this is plays a huge role in how much he respects Marcille and allies himself with her during his scuffle with Toshiro and everything moving forward. Laios has faced all sorts of abuse for being autistic and a monster lover weirdo. His interests and passions are taboo. Marcille for all intents and purposes was a goofy clumsy lovable straight A student and the best friend of Laios' best friend, his sister Falin. To have her come forward and announce herself as a practicioner of forbidden magic and throwing away her reputation and possibly her freedom to save Falin.. I mean how do you think Laios sees that? And then Marcille faces Toshiro's anger and everyone elses distrust and disdain.. this is really where they become eachothers supporters. Hell Marcille defends Laios from Chilchucks insults in early episodes one or twice, and Laios is always looking out for all the party members, but specifically Marcille. Though that may be because its usually Chilchuck being snarky or Senshi hating magic... either way. Theyve built a solid partnership to save Falin by any means necessary. Theres a lot of trust between the party, but specifically these two. Romance, no romance, whatever. Partners in crime. Black magic save Falin crimes.
Hey man, thanks for making this video. As a person who has been with the series for half a decade I'm thriving on the anime only's reactions.
Great analysis! Watched this video with the widest grin as a manga reader.
Also your theory is really good, it's normal for anime onlys to not be sure and get things wrong but that's also what makes it fun.
I was surprized when they showed all those paintings that basically told you Marcille's backstory already, but I also realized that it's harder to put together as an anime only. So I guess it continues this trend of dropping obvious and less obvious hints that will be properly addressed later.
bro cooking better than senshi
Will he cook ⁉️⁉️
Anime appears to be going through a renaissance with Frieren, Delicious in Dungeon and Bocchi. All of them are far deeper than just adventure-action anime. Thanks for the analysis. It's an interesting dive into a complex character.
I enjoyed this video (and your reactions!) a lot as a manga reader and I love how the anime gives people a chance to theorise a little more than the manga did. Hearing your thought process is really cool and it's lovely to share in how much you're enjoying the series :)
lol you are the real dungeon meshi channel
A1+ decision to use Professor Layton music 🙏🏽
4:49 I'm pretty certain that man in the painting is just... very frail yet not frail enough to be hospitalized father of Marcille.
I hope no one will be spoiling you in the coments. Love reading and hearing anime only people coming up with theories. It's like reliving the time when I was reading the manga and the chapters where coming up.
As a manga reader this is soo funny holy shit you're gonna love season 2
I really appreciate anime show analysis like these as a manga reader. Y’all are cookin’!!!
I love hearing your analysis of this. Well-spoken and presented. Thank you for taking the time to make this video!
The analysis and its emphasis on dreams makes me wonder if the OP is meant to tie into that in s significant way.
Very fun and very enjoyable analysis! Thank you for sharing!
As another anime-only, I wanted to point some things out. The painting of that "older mentor figure" is definitely just her dad, IMO. Same hairstyle, if you look closely, so I don't think the paintings are shown in order.
And second, I can't help but notice parallels between Marcille and the Mad Mage, who also seems to be gunning for the same thing she is, considering his relation to Delgal and the golden kindgom. It feels like the obvious narrative for this is that because the Mad Mage has to accept that Delgal is dead and so is the golden kingdom, so will Marcille also have to accept that she can't beat death either, and maybe those plots will tie themselves together? This is assuming my read on the Mad Mage is correct, anyhow. I feel like we're early enough that they could subvert what they've laid down, especially because the latest episode introduces so many more pieces to the plot that I don't even know what to do with.
The other older person in the paintings *is* her father. The hair is the same. We see in another shot that her father looks old in the painting where he's in his bed with Marcille by his side. He didn't die young like Laios assumed, he died of old age. It's actually very depressing to think that he spent his entire life raising his daughter but she was still a child when he died. He never saw her grow up.
Laios said he died when Marcille was young , which is technically correct
@@Hanmacx Huuuh, my subtitles were saying 'her father died young'. Weird.
4:31 marcille is on her knees in the painting clutching onto her mother
Having read the manga, I love what you ended up with in this video
sheeesh you are really cooking loool i mean yea who knows wut is the truth is and to which extend ^^
The background with the paintings tells us a lot (I am a manga reader)
Quote from Doctor Who:
"Immortality isn't living forever, that's not what it feels like, it's *everybody else* dying"
Oh my god i never realized before now but no one else was in the graveyard with young laios and falin. We don't know if he could see the mans ghost because he was visible or if the incident that revealed falins magical ability hinted to his as well
Real world facts on hybrids
1) Most hybrids are infertile. Its mainly because of the mismatched number of chromosomes
2) But some hybrids are fertile, but it is very rare.
3) Some hybrids are stronger/better stamina than the parents. Mules are a great example.
4) how a hybrid's looks and health can depend on "who is Mom" and who is "Dad".
Example: Horse Mom, and donkey dad, or vice versa.
If this is true and the tome actually has the way to defeat death this would be crazyyyy foreshadowing
This was a really good analysis. I've been enjoying the anime a lot so far, but this episode really stands out above the rest to me.
1:36 beside maybe monsters going extinct or something haahahahahahahah wut what a great line to describe laios true greatest fear lool xDDD
I look forward to the giant pot of dry pasta lightly seasoned with a bit of salt. 🥰
And in canon half elves happen to have longer life spans than normal elves
does anyone know the song from chapter 19 minute 15:11?
Very interesting analysis as a manga reader.
While I haven’t read the manga, I have gotten some hints and lore from a friend that has, so potential spoilers:
I wonder how magic exactly works in this setting, though to my knowledge it is restrained in some way. The Book appears nearly divine in the dream, bringing color to a dulled world, like imagination. If magic calls upon imagination, I wonder if Marcielle’s desperation in a semi-real world has drawn the attention of magic itself, as if it has awakened to her desires?
The scene where she pulls the book from Death’s jaws feels… incredibly important. The leitmotif that plays then also plays during Falin’s resurrection and the chimera’s reveal - I think it’s the leitmotif of Ancient Magic, as Marcielle calls it. The fact that those seem to be the only times it plays, and the significance of those scenes… I think that Marcielle has awakened something far more dangerous and powerful than when she gained the ire of the Mad Mage.
As in: that dream was real enough that two REAL people were able to experience it, so perhaps that lent the dream power. Falin said that going into a dream was dangerous - maybe she meant more than just “you could die in there”?
And if magic *is* restrained, perhaps those restraints don’t extend as far into dream worlds? Especially if magic is informed by imagination or desire or emotions - things that are heightened in dreams.
This will make a cameback 😢😢
It is very interesting to see the anime only perspective :D
at 4:30 u say that marcille isnt found in the paintings, but isnt she the little one clinging on to the mothers legs on the painting on the right?
just a word from the future to keep in mind, "mule" : )
Shhhhhhh
I have a theory regarding Laios & Falin having talents in using magic 🤔 perhaps they are descendants of elven race, an elf who was a very powerful magic user centuries ago, I guess? that's why Marcille told Laios something like "it runs in the family/it's in your blood," 🤔 or maybe their ancestors were tallmen who dealt with some black magic in the past and in result there is a side effect/lasting effect that will make their descendants to have some abilities related to the dark magic? who knows? maybe Laios & Falin's ancestor/great grand parents practiced Necromancy? if we pay closer attentions, both siblings can communicate with the spirits or ghosts, am I correct? that is definitely not normal, I guess? even though Marcille is an elven magic user/spell caster, she is unable to see nor communicate with ghosts/spirits the same way Laios and Falin do, right? RIGHT? AM I RIIITTTEEEE? (fangirl mode - ON)
4:28 I am not sure you reference it, but...is it just me, or there are two gravestones there?
Manga readers do indeed know whats up.
Interesting takes
OH GODMPUNK
Loved it!
Amazing work bro ✌️
I'm a manga reader.
It seems like the animation gives away too much information compared to the manga, but I really like your analysis.
Manga hinted as mush, just with different dialog and back ground art. Still basically the same
SPOILERS ABOUT RACES IN DUNGEON MESHI (no story spoilers, just worldbuilding)
Good catch on how Marcille's father is a human and Marcille is a half elf (with her ears slightly rounder than those of pure elves).
What amplifies Marcille's tragedy is that being half-elf is rough in DM world. Half-Elves are sterile, they mature in a wonky way, for example, they can be unable to walk years after being born, and worst of all, because of combination of elven and human blood, they have a lifespan of proto-humans other races stem from, living two and a half times longer than elves themselves (up to 1000 years).
So yeah, Marcille has a life full of dead loved ones before her.
or Marcille may not have to endure the loss of her elven friend if her life expectancy turns out to be not much longer than an elf's
which could still be a problem, for her as a half-elf, she might only have friends from other races (in particular tall-men, the other half of her blood) who are still shorter living than her
she might not care if other elves die before or after her, but she might still grieves over her short-living tall-man & half-foot friends, like she grieved over her tall-man father
Banger video
[Foreboding remark]
Half elves' lifespan is doubled compared to a pure elf. So Marcile would eventually outlive her own mother.
how old is Marcela
50
This shit was sad
::)
In the manga the fact that marcille is only half elf is only revealed many chapters latter.
Spoilers
The thing is. In the D&D and most fantasy universes a half elf life expectative is of 200 to 300 years while elfs live up to 1000. However, in this universe elfs live up to 500 years and half elfs live up to 1000 years. This happens because in this universe half elfs are like mules. Most elfs became adults at the age of 80, but a 14 years old and a 80 years old half elf can both look like either a 10 years old or a 25 years old human. When Marcille's father died he was 85. The thing is, and this a even bigger spoiler, the Dungeon feeds on wishes, and the mages tomes is the locked body of the Dungeon's Demon. This demon may be unaible to use his full set of powers, but he can hear and feel the urges of the dungeon crawlers. Now that laios made Marcille express her wishes, she is now in danger. Do not wish inside the dungeon, you are going to be eaten.
Leggggooo
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Great Video :)