These are a GREAT set of tutorials! You did a great job making them, and I really enjoyed how you went after the deer with this equipment. Good luck this season...I hope u get one! Billy
I wouldnt go as far as saying it was sophisticated. Everything needed back then was hand made, and made easier as time went on. And just like today, if someone found an easier way of doing something, it got passed along to others. Literally, hunter - gather mind set, they need to do this to survive, and already had thousands of years to perfect it up to this point. Kinda insane to say 100's of thousands of people didnt speak to each other to pass this kind of knowledge on over a few generations. With otiz, i see bothing more then a small village-farm person that travelled into the mountainous area for better game to hunt.
I have read all four volumes of Bowyer's Bible. I am especially lucky to live in Oregon and personally know two of the authors of Volume I (John Strunk and Steve Allely). Both men are extremely friendly and willing to pass on their knowledge.
I loved this video, and I'm a critical fellow. I believe I said "Awesome" several times out loud while watching. Very well done with both your studied and rehearsed technique, and their presentation in this video.
Main shaft is labour intensive and brittle. Foreshaft is simple, easy to make, and carries fairly disposable arrowpoints, and is usually stuck somewhere, and these two better be detachable, so that you can use the same main shaft over and over, even if your points break, are stuck in a tree or elsewhere.
I am so grateful, the detail you impart is wonderful. I would like to know how long the arrows were (main shaft) without the foresight, and how long the foresight dogwood pieces were...thanks
I believe they would place a animals skull underneath the birch bark and then cover it with tons of ash placing a stone in the skull for the tar to collect
Shawn, just a guess but likely similar to turpentine collection. A series of deep angled cuts (cat face) made into the tree and a collection container placed below the cuts to collect the resinous sap.
They used clay from the lowest layers of the soil. It was made into a form oy pottery with the same prisiple of your tin can. BTW ca nyou show us how to make a flint dagger/knife and the grass sheeth that Otzi had? Keep up the best stoneage tutorials on youtube.
My son and I just recently made our first primitive bow and really had a blast. I think we will take a look at your technique for the arrows and arrowheads. Can't wait for the next video! Also, @gotrocksinhead...I've been watching your channel for a while. Great stuff... you live in a beautiful area. Oregon maybe?
@gotrocksinhead Thanks Dan Your videos are what inspired me to start my own channel. I check every morning to see if you posted something new. Keep up the great work.
impressive, very nice skills you own, have you seen the videos called ......... How to split a feather using no tools for primitive archery ................. and .............. Otzi the Iceman's Firekit
Extremely interesting and well done. I make my primitive arrows using Arrowwood Viburnum and red osier dogwood which are both quite common here in Ohio. I have not yet tried using pitch to glue on fletching but will have to substitute it sometime soon for hide glue. Looking forward to your hunting video! Best Regards, Rey in Ohio
Maybe drying shafts tied together ( have to be dry place probably permanent village so dont have to transport lots of stuff following the herds) ancient alaskas had ARROW STRAIGHTING TOOLS bone or wood with hole put shaft thru and bent in the small bad areas..not the whole shaft..over fire heat i think. simple and quick ..and documented.
Orion Christensen so he couldn’t be classified as many things, maybe he was a hunter that used a bow, maybe he didn’t mean archer as in Olympic competitor
I'm not sure if you mentioned it in another video but I had a professor tell me that when you use feathers for an arrow they must all be from a right or left wing. If you use feathers from both wings on one arrow it will not fly true.
Probably when the arrow hits the animal and the animal runs away, the main shaft will drop to the ground as the arrow snags on bushes or twigs while the fore shaft is still jammed inside the animal. Therefore raise the chance of the arrow become reusable instead of broken.
Stone or Pottery containers used instead of metal and glass, that would be my hypothesis. Think how would you do it with primitive materials, and that's at least how they could do it, even if it's not actually what they did do.
You actually get a more accurate shot. It all has to do with the flex of the arrow as it leaves the string. A longer arrow can take a heavier point as a result of the flex. A shorter arrow needs a lighter point. The impact isn't on the accuracy, it's on the speed of arrow flight. Heavier flies a bit slower, but strikes with greater weight (F=MA). I use heavy long arrows that allow me to use better arrows on a lighter bow. It all makes sense once you get used to it.
I mean at the moment while the arrow still in contact with the string, doesnt the ligher back launches faster than the front and so it makes resonance of the wood
I would guess it is for versatility. (mind my spelling) Instead of making a 100+ arrows with a wide variety with only one use, you could make this types of arrows and depending on what you're hunting you could change the head.
+climber6916 The main shafting, lantana shoots has a reed-like tubular geometry, which is great for strength, but makes fitting a head difficult. It's also easily split, exacerbated if you're splitting the end to insert an arrow head. Dogwood can be used to make an entire shaft, being strong fibrous wood with nice longitudinal strength and density, but requires some pretty skilful straightening, because the shoots are quite kinked when harvested. This is not a problem is only using an 8 inch length up the front. I also concur, yes, it probably aids replacing the head if/when it gets broken on a target or from a miss, rather than having to replace the entire arrow. I think TheCombatClown also raises an interesting idea about changing the heads out for different targets. But I'd say the main reason why foreshafts are used is to make use of plentiful materials that have different but complementing capabilities, the end result being less labour intensive but still delivering performance.
Because it's heavier. The arrows were made so that they both long and as light as possible. Ötzis all arrowheads are the same, so there was no need for him to change them.
I found out having weight forward on and arrow makes the arrow more stable when i was 12 making my own bow and arrow... And to be honest, its just common logic.
oh i see why they made a foreshaft :) to seperate the head from the back of the arrow so they don't have to make a whole new arrow in case the flint part breaks?
few years back on discovery there was one show where they made tar from some wood dont rimbmber which one, by putting it in pot like thing with a hole on the bottom. Then they fillder it and put a lid on and started heating it . When wood got heated tar started driping out from wood. I think that wood was pine btw .. ( sry for bad spelling im not from england)
These are a GREAT set of tutorials! You did a great job making them, and I really enjoyed how you went after the deer with this equipment. Good luck this season...I hope u get one!
Billy
That's some pretty sophisticated technology for "primitives".
I wouldnt go as far as saying it was sophisticated. Everything needed back then was hand made, and made easier as time went on. And just like today, if someone found an easier way of doing something, it got passed along to others. Literally, hunter - gather mind set, they need to do this to survive, and already had thousands of years to perfect it up to this point. Kinda insane to say 100's of thousands of people didnt speak to each other to pass this kind of knowledge on over a few generations. With otiz, i see bothing more then a small village-farm person that travelled into the mountainous area for better game to hunt.
each arrow must of been precious back then, very cool video thanks for the upload
I have read all four volumes of Bowyer's Bible. I am especially lucky to live in Oregon and personally know two of the authors of Volume I (John Strunk and Steve Allely). Both men are extremely friendly and willing to pass on their knowledge.
I loved this video, and I'm a critical fellow. I believe I said "Awesome" several times out loud while watching. Very well done with both your studied and rehearsed technique, and their presentation in this video.
Perhaps Otzi was also trying newly made arrows for UA-cam video in the mountains and then got trapped.
Main shaft is labour intensive and brittle. Foreshaft is simple, easy to make, and carries fairly disposable arrowpoints, and is usually stuck somewhere, and these two better be detachable, so that you can use the same main shaft over and over, even if your points break, are stuck in a tree or elsewhere.
Dude loved #1 & 2 I can't wait for the next one.
Thanks
Wow you are an artist when it come to this I look forward to the next segment
I am so grateful, the detail you impart is wonderful. I would like to know how long the arrows were (main shaft) without the foresight, and how long the foresight dogwood pieces were...thanks
Great video, looks like a Bushcraft School. thank You for sharing it.
I am still trying to figure out how primitive people make birch tar. If you have any ideas let me know.
I believe they would place a animals skull underneath the birch bark and then cover it with tons of ash placing a stone in the skull for the tar to collect
Also how long do you cut the fletchings
Shawn, just a guess but likely similar to turpentine collection. A series of deep angled cuts (cat face) made into the tree and a collection container placed below the cuts to collect the resinous sap.
Im impressed how the ancients made 2 piece arrows so they could recover the labor etc intense main shaft. Clever..but not all tribes did.
i cant believe how much time and work goes into making a single arrow!
This video is so fucking good, exactly what i have been looking for. Thanks!!
Thank you so much for sharing this with us!
Very cool ....on the edge of my seat for part 3!!!!!
awesome series man! thanks for making these!
Ben
They used clay from the lowest layers of the soil. It was made into a form oy pottery with the same prisiple of your tin can. BTW ca nyou show us how to make a flint dagger/knife and the grass sheeth that Otzi had? Keep up the best stoneage tutorials on youtube.
Outstanding work. It's a pleasure to watch.
dude you should have went in the primitive archer magazine! you would have been made famous in the global archery world!
My son and I just recently made our first primitive bow and really had a blast. I think we will take a look at your technique for the arrows and arrowheads. Can't wait for the next video!
Also, @gotrocksinhead...I've been watching your channel for a while. Great stuff... you live in a beautiful area. Oregon maybe?
How long are the whole shafts ? I am making some soon ! Thanks, you are an awesome craftsman !
Awsome! Cant wait for part 3
I sure am glad modern arrows exist, because these look like a pain to make... :p
This how we were created to live.
your my favorite survivalist besides coyote peterson or bear grylls i like the detail you use when making your videos
bear grylls is an actor
Yeah I know but he has put him self in survival situations tha he could have died in
+xjonnyb03 i guess sleeping in a 5 star hotel after the cameras turn off is a survival situation.
No He has put himself on cliffs and stuff before. He has actually been through pain in his life
Whole year
They would make 100's of those and years probability go by quickly for them for natural reasons...
Nice video 👍👍 two big thumbs up nice goose shot did that really happen ?
Great demonstration!
@gotrocksinhead
Thanks Dan
Your videos are what inspired me to start my own channel. I check every morning to see if you posted something new. Keep up the great work.
impressive, very nice skills you own, have you seen the videos called ......... How to split a feather using no tools for primitive archery ................. and .............. Otzi the Iceman's Firekit
Awesome video, just curious as to why you use a stone chopping board while prepping the arrows, doesnt this damaged the flint?
He doesn't cut all the way hebaicallt cuts a notch all the way around and snaps it off I've done the same with my arrows
Incredible skills - great tutorial 👏 👍 🏹
Another great video.
Extremely interesting and well done. I make my primitive arrows using Arrowwood Viburnum and red osier dogwood which are both quite common here in Ohio. I have not yet tried using pitch to glue on fletching but will have to substitute it sometime soon for hide glue. Looking forward to your hunting video!
Best Regards, Rey in Ohio
👍👍 Thanks Shawn!
Maybe drying shafts tied together ( have to be dry place probably permanent village so dont have to transport lots of stuff following the herds) ancient alaskas had ARROW STRAIGHTING TOOLS bone or wood with hole put shaft thru and bent in the small bad areas..not the whole shaft..over fire heat i think. simple and quick ..and documented.
How hot does it have to get? a wet leather bag full of birch bark heated? I wouldnt have a clue. your stuff is great
Like what I see. Thanks for the vids.
stable arrow flight will make it more accurate, not less, you need to have weight at the front of the arrow for it to even paradox properly
Otzi wasn’t an archer he was either a herder or a hunter
He was perhaps all of those things and more.
Orion Christensen so he couldn’t be classified as many things, maybe he was a hunter that used a bow, maybe he didn’t mean archer as in Olympic competitor
He's hunting pumpkins
Sssshh! Don't scare 'em off. xP
Wild pumpkins kill an average of 6 archers a year. What this man is doing is extremely dangerous.
+TheCombatClown He is a brave man
will you make videos on ötzi's tools too? like his knife and other things he carried?
I'm not sure if you mentioned it in another video but I had a professor tell me that when you use feathers for an arrow they must all be from a right or left wing. If you use feathers from both wings on one arrow it will not fly true.
Question: What is the purpose of having a front- and backpart to the arrow? (Sorry if this was asked before)
As in two pieces? Just in case the arrowhead broke
maybe it has to do with different hardnesses and springeness like differential heat treatments, if you know what that is
it is normally because there is poison used on the tip. that way if the animal pulled the arrow out the poison part is still in.
Looking at the heads he builds this seems highly unlikely.
Probably when the arrow hits the animal and the animal runs away, the main shaft will drop to the ground as the arrow snags on bushes or twigs while the fore shaft is still jammed inside the animal. Therefore raise the chance of the arrow become reusable instead of broken.
Wonderful stuff.
I don't get how you drill out the center of the arrow shaft without it splitting on you
Stone or Pottery containers used instead of metal and glass, that would be my hypothesis.
Think how would you do it with primitive materials, and that's at least how they could do it, even if it's not actually what they did do.
Thats pretty interesting
Nettle fibers, for example. They are durable enough for the job and also shrink upon drying.
do you flintknapp your points?
Do you get the shafts laser straight or just enough
Heat the shaft over a fire and bend them until they’re straight
I'm fascinated
Did you make the bow too?
what does the 2 part arrow do better than the 1 piece
You actually get a more accurate shot. It all has to do with the flex of the arrow as it leaves the string. A longer arrow can take a heavier point as a result of the flex. A shorter arrow needs a lighter point. The impact isn't on the accuracy, it's on the speed of arrow flight. Heavier flies a bit slower, but strikes with greater weight (F=MA).
I use heavy long arrows that allow me to use better arrows on a lighter bow. It all makes sense once you get used to it.
primitive??? show me ananimal that can make anything besides a nest. and a year ahead of time... the planning... We are devo.
Can you make a video on making a Ötzi style birch bark container
I mean at the moment while the arrow still in contact with the string, doesnt the ligher back launches faster than the front and so it makes resonance of the wood
Did they use dogwood for the foreshaft because it's stronger? or replaceable?
I would guess it is for versatility. (mind my spelling) Instead of making a 100+ arrows with a wide variety with only one use, you could make this types of arrows and depending on what you're hunting you could change the head.
+climber6916 The main shafting, lantana shoots has a reed-like tubular geometry, which is great for strength, but makes fitting a head difficult. It's also easily split, exacerbated if you're splitting the end to insert an arrow head. Dogwood can be used to make an entire shaft, being strong fibrous wood with nice longitudinal strength and density, but requires some pretty skilful straightening, because the shoots are quite kinked when harvested. This is not a problem is only using an 8 inch length up the front. I also concur, yes, it probably aids replacing the head if/when it gets broken on a target or from a miss, rather than having to replace the entire arrow. I think TheCombatClown also raises an interesting idea about changing the heads out for different targets. But I'd say the main reason why foreshafts are used is to make use of plentiful materials that have different but complementing capabilities, the end result being less labour intensive but still delivering performance.
Because it's heavier. The arrows were made so that they both long and as light as possible.
Ötzis all arrowheads are the same, so there was no need for him to change them.
is there any way to speed up the drying process?
How long is the fletching?
you is my inspiration :)
Vitor Hugo you is my English teacher
did anyone else crack up at the very beginning when they shot the pumpkin?????? i did
@historichunter they could have use rocks or obsidian much like we use glass bottles for things today (reply to how they made birch tar)
Is there flint in Texas?
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@historichunter Wow! thanks
you must be proud.
have you heard which wood did he use for the two part of the arrow?
I'm not english so I didn't reconize the name of the wood
Watch part one
I found out having weight forward on and arrow makes the arrow more stable when i was 12 making my own bow and arrow... And to be honest, its just common logic.
clay pot with hole in bottom and clay pot to catch birch tar?
That is the definition what i wanted to say :)
oh i see why they made a foreshaft :) to seperate the head from the back of the arrow so they don't have to make a whole new arrow in case the flint part breaks?
Brilliant
Do you really need to let the arrows season for a whole year?!?
to be honest i dont think so. those pieces of wood will only need a few weeks to get dry. but the longer the better.
So it becomes harder. If it's still green it's still soft
Primitive Pyromaniac not necessarily I've made perfectly good arrows out of green wood but it's better if fire hardened or given a few days to harden
I didnt mean that back must be heavier than front. I meant, that front should be heavier, but not by that much.
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smarrt cawemen
impressive
cool
the dogwood foreshaft has bark and bite
Please don't use a rock as a cutting board.. Precious sharp edge could be wasted. Would think that would have been done on wooden board or rawhide
Its a piece of flint he can get a new one
It's way too big for him to get a sharp point. Flint and obsidian is good for cutting
probably by burning some tree sap or sth, not so big a deal
look into the archers paradox
Oatsi the riceman is smrt boi
should have used back sinew for fletching rap
few years back on discovery there was one show where they made tar from some wood dont rimbmber which one, by putting it in pot like thing with a hole on the bottom. Then they fillder it and put a lid on and started heating it . When wood got heated tar started driping out from wood. I think that wood was pine btw .. ( sry for bad spelling im not from england)
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