Jeremy Christiansen's Conversion from Mormonism to Roman Catholicism
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- Опубліковано 1 лис 2024
- I sat down with, lawyer and author, Jeremy Christiansen about his conversion from Mormonism to Roman Catholicism.
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Fun new Catholic content creator! Nice!
I know… there are a lot of us, aren’t there 😅
@@IntegratedAngela I was not being sarcastic or anything. The interview was great and the tone was down to earth. We need more of this!
Awww thank you so much! I’m honestly very relieved to hear that! ♥️
8 million members and counting in the LDS church. Mormonism is NOT going away.
@@Christine-y3m9hhey I love Mormons…you people are so loving kind and gentle. My deepest respects to you all. but can you please please do a research on what the early Christians believed in? These teachings are being continued until today. You would get a better understanding of who God the Father and Jesus are, the way the early Christians saw them. Love always❤.
I read this book in a day. I loved it. I have been figuring out the best approach to discuss this with my sister who was a fallen away Catholic who converted to Mormonism. At first I thought LDS were Christians and the more I learned about their teachings and true beliefs, the more concerned I have become.
I sent my sister a text message about faith and quoted to her Jeremiah 17:9. 5 minutes later I open the door and the package with your book was there. When I opened the cover and the first thing I see was Jeremiah 17:9, I was brought to tears! I will be ordering another copy to send to her.
Keep us posted on how this goes for you! Praise be to God for His goodness and providence!
I know multiple LDS members and they are all wonderful, faithful people. Their cultures and customs are very wholesome and similar to traditional Catholicism (family values, modesty, patriarchy, etc.). I would be overjoyed to see them convert to Catholicism some day, but it is difficult to lift the scales from their eyes as the teachings of LDS are so engrained in them that as Jeremy says in your video Angela, I can see how it would be an extremely jarring, difficult experience to leave their church’s teachings behind. Thank you for having Jeremy on your show, I am going to buy his book and pray for my Mormon friends!
I agree- Mormons are so hardworking and giving of themselves. Wholesome is a great way to describe much of their life.
Here is the point, there is no benefit to converting to Catholism. Catholics, for the most part, want others to convert because the Catholic church is the bog mama of Christianity, and everyone's mom and moms mom all the way back were Catholics.
I say that with a wife that grew up Catholic, she still couldn't sit down and study her scriptures. It's not something the Catholic church pushes.
Let me give you some examples:
1) If my wife or I die our marriage is over in Catholicism, on the other hand because we actually do have Peter's keys what is bound on earth is bound in heaven, that includes our marriage.
2) I wouldn't be able to hold the priesthood in the Catholic church, it's exclusive for unmarried men. To the contrary, the priesthood in the Old Testament required marriage a child bearing. In the New Testament Bishops were required to be the husband of a wife and he was to show he could rule his own family well. The priest and bishops of the Catholic church including the pope are unmarried men. Peter was married.
3) Apostolic succession is supposed to take place through apostles. There is no evidence Linus was the leader of the whole church after Peter, it was John the Apostle who was receiving revelation for the church and writing epistles after Paul and Peter were killed.
4) Baptism is suppose to be by immersion, that's literally what Baptism means in Greek, plus the one being baptized and the one baptizing must both be standing in the water,
" And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him." (Acts 8:38)
5) you have to be able to confess your sins to be baptized:
"And were baptized of him in Jordan, confessing their sins" (Matthew 3:6)
Babies can't confess sins, but for the most part are the ones being baptized in the Catholic church
6) the scriptures are very clear against idol worship but the Catholic church does that, and they have modified pagan patron dieties into patron saints and have renaimed images of Diana, Venus and Isis "Mary" and have adopted maryology as part of their worship.
To the contrary when a woman shouted praises to Mary in front of Jesus this is how he responded:
"¶ And it came to pass, as he spake these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto him, Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou hast sucked. But he said, Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it." (Luke 11:27-28)
7) Jesus was clear not to give titles of rabbi and father to men
My wife is a Jehovah's Witness and it's a similar situation. The Mormons, JWs and the SDAs all have founders who witnessed "The Great Disappointment" after William Miller convinced everyone the world was going to end somewhere around the 1840s. Then these psuedo-Christian organizations that I just mentioned, all started their own religions while being obsessed with predicting the end of the world and failing the Deuteronomy 13 test Sadly these organizations practice shunning, which only works if you take the scriptures they use out of context. They seem to have forgotten that God gave us free will and that shunning prevents ones from freely expressing their concerns, which then makes ones conflicted, causing much anxiety and even depression.
@TruLuan The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints started in 1830, and the Great Disappointment took place in 1843-1844. Joseph Smith is on record stating that the Second Coming wouldn't happen those years. Other than that, he was not affiliated with Miller's movement at all. Sorry to disappoint you with facts it's just so-called Christians are so dumb you can't get any facts right, but you are absolutely sure your interpretation of the Bible is the right one.
Wait till you learn about the Muslims, which is basically the same thing.
Morphing of religions is where the world is heading.
I’m also studying the Catholic Church history! I have begun reading Jeremy’s book!
Praise be to God!
Thank you for doing this outstanding interview with Jeremy! I’m almost finished with his memoir, “From the Susquehanna to the Tiber.” I knew quite a few things about Mormonism, but his book covers so much more that I’m grateful to know about now. He does this by using such an easy to read yet intellectual approach. I’ve had to look up a number of words… lol! I wasn’t familiar with you, Angela, until this interview. Your questions were great. Jeremy’s responses educated and inspired me. I have a son who converted to Mormonism (they dislike this term now, as Jeremy mentions in his introduction, which seems crazy since their definitive book is named “Book of Mormon”) from the beautiful Catholic Faith that I instilled in him. You could’ve knocked me over with a feather; I was in such disbelief. He & his wife are raising my four awesome grandchildren to be believers in all things LDS. I am trusting Jesus that my prayers and fasting may influence their family to one day take a second look at what they really believe. As much as I’d love to point them to your interview or buy them Jeremy’s book, I would be accused of trying to start an argument. I just need to love them where they’re at, and ask the Holy Spirit to give me the right words at the right times. God bless you for your beautiful conversation from which we can all learn!
Wow! Thank you for this comment! It is a great encouragement to me and I’ll be sure to make sure Jeremy sees it as well. We are praying for you.
I had never known about the name it and claim it aspect of Mormonism. This makes sense with it coming out of the original great Awakening and the Millerite movement. Very interesting. This show was very informative thank you for having the conversation.
I’m glad you enjoyed it. I learned a lot from Jeremy too!
Great show and interview.
Thank you! I’m so glad you enjoyed it!
31:13 Going to the temple was the catalyst that led to me walking away from the LDS church. It didn't feel at all like the same religion. It was such a bizarre experience and several people advised me to just keep going so I would get used to it.
It felt too much like insisting that I brainwash myself. I began investing "anti-mormon" literature after that, which we were all Explicitly told to Never do.
I was out after that.
If you’re religion insists you’re not allowed to investigate it’s claims 🚩🚩🚩🚩
The temple is my favorite part of Mormonism.
@IntegratedAngela that's why the Catholic church would burn people at the stake for translating the Bible into other languages, it allowed the people to investigate the scriptures beyond what the clergy was telling them.
Good. . Glad to see you go!
Had to watch the reaction to the dry town comment. 😂
Hahahaha the town adjacent to where I graduated HS was a dry town until sometime in high school if I remember correctly! I grew up in an area with a high number of Protestants from the Laestadian Lutheran sect. Very strict. But also really great people for the most part, though it was a couple of kids from that denomination that spit in my face for being Catholic on the school bus.
Whoa! How awful! Looking forward to watching this later, y’all.
@@IntegratedAngela Isso é inaceitável!!!!
Hey I’m Mormon and guess what going from Mormonism to Catholicism is the best religion to convert to because most if not all Catholics treat others with kindness and respect especially our church where both leaders help with humanitarian aid around the world.
This is a really interesting comment.
There is a lot of infighting in the Church right now. I pray that we have the unity you are describing 🙏🏼
@@IntegratedAngela yes I wish this was the case because most Catholics I talk to call us Christians but you go online and you see a bunch of are Mormons Christians and the answer for what ever reason is no because we don’t interpret the Bible the same way as them this is the biggest misunderstanding of our church we believe in one god and that’s the father. his son and the holy spirt are one in purpose doing the will of god.
@@Spark_Horizion so I think I see what you’re saying a bit better. Yes- Catholics believe that unless you believe and profess belief in the Trinity- 3 divine persons, 1 God- then you are technically not a Christian. This is a core doctrine of Catholic belief (many Protestants as well). Due to these differences in how we define Christianity and essential beliefs, that tends to leave LDS/Mormons outside of that fundamental belief system. I know Mormons profess being Christians, but they have redefined doctrine and belief in the Trinity, which was always believed by early Christians- and it was swiftly condemned by the early Church fathers when sects of Christianity deviated away from that belief.
@@IntegratedAngela everyone in the Trinity is the divine just like we are divine. It’s just the God that we all worship is God the father do you want me to pull up that verse for you or or no?
When my oldest brother finished his freshman year at Notre Dame he announced his desire to become a Mormon (go figure :-). It had more to do with his fellow hs co-captain of the football team's Mormon grandparents who were naturally virtuous people. So my parents wisely decided that we would stop in Salt Lake en route to LA for the '84 Olympics that summer. After a tour of the Mormon Tabernacle & reading the LDS literature he changed his mind.
It makes a lot of sense to convert
from Mormonism to Catholicism but still shocks me when I learn of thinkers (Glen Beck) who make the opposite switch. Well done Jeremy, you obviously did your homework... AMDG
Great story! Thanks for sharing!
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Mormonism did not save me. Jesus Christ saved me. If you read the Book of Mormon, your knowledge and testimony of Jesus Christ will become more powerful.
I have no idea how he didn’t find Jesus Christ in the teachings from the church of Jesus Christ latter-day Saints.
Sometimes you can get caught up in the culture or in the weeds of things and not see the source . The same thing could happen to a Catholic, protestant, and any other faith that believes in Jesus Christ.
Most of this video I feel like I just watched a soft defense of Mormonism. Either way it was an intriguing and engaging conversation
Pax Christi
I guess I saw his approach as his way of being respectful of his family who still practices Mormonism. I didn’t feel it was a defense at all, but I’m glad you enjoyed the discussion!
36 minutes into it, I felt the same way too. But then I also understood that it is probably the best way to go at this conversation because we need to practice our Christian charity, and pray for them to come home.
@@cristinamz2137❤
There it is “if only God will show himself” . . . Are you kidding?
To become “like” God. You better check your sources.
Out of the frying pan into the fire...
Praying for you!
From one works based religion to another one. Not a stretch really.
That’s a strawman. Catholics don’t believe in “works-based” salvation. This trope of intellectually dishonest “argumentation” really needs to stop.
@@IntegratedAngelado Catholics believe both faith and works are required for salvation? I am LDS and considering Catholicism.
@@Whiskey.Tango.Actual we believe that works/faith are really two sides of the same coin. Works are an expression of faith, but it’s God’s grace that saves us. Grace is a free gift that we can receive and than act accordingly. Every time our Lord talks about the judgement of the righteous/unrighteous, he highlights that they will be separated based on their works/lackthereof. Baptism is also necessary (which is a work of God that leaves an indelible mark on the soul) and brings us into His family.
Feel free to email me if you have more questions at angela@integratedangela.com
Praying for you while you discern! 🙏🏼
@@IntegratedAngela thank you for taking the time to respond. Does the Catholic Church recognize my LDS baptism as a Christian one? Or would I be required to be baptized to be received into the Church?
@@Whiskey.Tango.Actual it is my understanding that the Catholic Church doesn’t consider Mormon baptism to be a proper baptism. According to Catholic.com the reason can be summarized as follows: “The Catholic Church does not recognize Mormon baptism as valid because, although Mormons and Catholics use the same words, those words have completely unrelated meanings for each religion. The Mormon’s very concept of God is infinitely different from that of Christians…”
Wow from Mormon to Catholic! I’m not of the opinion that the move was an improvement. In my Opinion neither is correct. Remember I said “in my opinion.” You can have any opinion you choose.
And are you willing to share how you came to your opinion?
@@byonnoyb Yes I can share I read the Bible (was raised in two different denominations Pentecostal until about 8-9 years old the SDA until I was adult) and the Bible says the Seventh Day is the Sabbath. So I respect you enough to not criticize your choice of which church you attend but the Bible backs Saturday as the true Biblical Sabbath
@@byonnoyb Yes I read the Bible and it says the Seventh day is the Sabbath and history confirms that the Catholic Church is the denomination that sanctified Sunday, (not in scripture anywhere that Sunday is the new Sabbath). History confirms what I just texted.
Yes, because the eighth day signifies a new heaven and a new earth- a new creation and a new Church, the day of his resurrection.
@@cdmcintyre1854 The SDAs position on the Sabbath was already debunked. Google Catholic answers and check out some of their articles. Also check out the shameless Popery podcast. The SDA position is asinine.
In other words, from satan to satan. Both are apostate.
Praying for you!
@@IntegratedAngela om sure of my salvation. Catholics aren't.
@@rubenmontiel5000 Don't worry you're all going to hell for worshipping capitalism and politics.