Sidiki & Toumani Diabate (RTM)

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  • Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
  • Kora legend Sidiki Diabaté with his son Toumani recorded by Malian television for the programme "L'Artiste et sa Musique", presented and hosted by Zoumana Yoro Traoré.
    Sidiki explains the origins of the kora in Mandinka (or Malinké) music.
    Unfortunately the video is incomplete, and I don't have the end.
    Malheureusement le video n'est pas complêt, et je n'ai pas le fin.

КОМЕНТАРІ • 142

  • @01Minaba
    @01Minaba 5 років тому +26

    On a tellement à apprendre dans cette Afrique qu'on aura pas le temps d'étudier, l’Amérique, le Japon, la Chine ou je ne sais quoi. Merci pour l'histoire grand père. Dors en paix !

  • @eddyc4603
    @eddyc4603 4 роки тому +14

    Je ne comprends pas un mot mais j'ai l'impression d'avoir appris quelque chose.
    I don't understand a word but I feel I learned something.

    • @TheMoulsauce1
      @TheMoulsauce1 3 роки тому +5

      He's telling the history of Kora. Where it cames from. Origins from Guinée Bissau, Gambia, etc...right before colonisation. The history of mandigue in general.

    • @eddyc4603
      @eddyc4603 3 роки тому

      @@TheMoulsauce1 thanks. Do you also know... The tuning is slightly different here from most modern recordings in the conventional scale - or it just sounds different. I was wondering if in modern times koras were tuned to reflect "standard" occidental piano (or guitar, etc) tuning while this wasn't the case before? Of course it could also be due to VHS sound being inaccurate, hence my question.

  • @simbon5531
    @simbon5531 8 років тому +33

    Sidiki Diabaté fut le maître incontesté de la Kora en Afrique de l'Ouest. Merci d'avoir contribué de manière éloquente à l'histoire du Manden (Mandenka). Quel bonheur de vous écouter !

    • @niamakannidjinemakan6802
      @niamakannidjinemakan6802 3 роки тому +2

      Tu mets Batrou Sékou Kouyaté où ?

    • @SamDickey
      @SamDickey 3 роки тому +1

      @@niamakannidjinemakan6802 personnellement, je le mets au même niveau que Sidiki. Ce sont deux pionniers de la kora au Mali.

  • @aminatacisse9849
    @aminatacisse9849 6 років тому +12

    Oh! J'adore j'écoutes cette chanson chaque jour avant de dormir

  • @editionsafricana
    @editionsafricana Місяць тому +3

    Africa is unique. They just divided us to have their food. There is no borders. Nor Sénégal, nor guinea ,nor Mali.. there is just Africa

  • @ballatouba1489
    @ballatouba1489 Рік тому +5

    Awesome Jaliba 🇬🇲🤲🏾👑👑🇬🇲

  • @chancelekeufack1320
    @chancelekeufack1320 4 роки тому +28

    77 generations of beauty in this family. Toumani's son is also named Sidiki Diabate and the only disappointment with him is that he is a genius but wasting precious time doing hip hop, which by the way, he is very good at but I would rather he plays kora full time

    • @tomerbarkay2449
      @tomerbarkay2449 4 роки тому +2

      100% true

    • @SKY911
      @SKY911 3 роки тому

      What’s wrong with hip hop?

    • @ballamoussakeita840
      @ballamoussakeita840 Рік тому

      True

    • @louisebarber2984
      @louisebarber2984 Місяць тому

      71 generations, which is still astounding. Hip Hop is a huge love of mine, and Toumani himself had wide tastes. But none of that detracts from how wonderful this is. I love to see more of the young Toumani with Sidiki Senior. RIEP dear souls.

  • @bamanasoyakoteba
    @bamanasoyakoteba 7 місяців тому +1

    Oui
    oUI
    oui
    Merci le vieux
    Merci de nous avoir conté sans publicité, niarrogance l´histoire des ancetres
    l´histoire de la Cora
    Celle de Tiramankan et de la belle Nantcho auc cheveux en crinieres!

  • @bubasanneh2536
    @bubasanneh2536 5 років тому +5

    We need the man like you papa in gambia

  • @souleymanekamissoko9927
    @souleymanekamissoko9927 4 роки тому +5

    paix à ton âme je confirme que le pont qui traverse le fleuve non loin de mon village natal Tambaga s'appelle "Tiramakanteguedan "

  • @ray-oo4hv
    @ray-oo4hv Місяць тому +1

    mes prieres pour que ton âme ainsi que celle de mon feu pere et tous nos defunts reposent en paix ... i m so sad

  • @IbrahimaMane-oq7jy
    @IbrahimaMane-oq7jy Місяць тому +1

    Paradis a tous nos aïeux Amine 🤲🏽❤️❤️

  • @daoudacoulibaly9669
    @daoudacoulibaly9669 5 років тому +3

    J'adore découvrir davantage l'histoire de mon Afrique merci infiniment au maître incontesté de la kora pour ses explications merci d'avoir existé paix à ton âme.

  • @compter809
    @compter809 5 років тому +4

    Sidike you are from Gambia we love you

    • @niamakannidjinemakan6802
      @niamakannidjinemakan6802 3 роки тому +5

      And Sidiki Diabaté also parents are from Mali, Kita. The epicenter of manding culture.

  • @diefagatambambdiefaga9040
    @diefagatambambdiefaga9040 8 років тому +5

    Un grand pretre de la cora dort en paix ton oeuvre t immortalisera a jamais

  • @bajunkung
    @bajunkung 7 років тому +8

    base is in Gambia. i love this man

  • @fadis903
    @fadis903 Місяць тому +1

    Abaraka Jali...Manding was a great empire with a very rich history.

  • @silviasimoesdossantos3933
    @silviasimoesdossantos3933 2 роки тому +4

    Eu adoro o som desse Instrumento musical 😁😋😍😍😍😍😁😁😁

  • @Mouhamedtounkara09
    @Mouhamedtounkara09 5 років тому +3

    C'est Le Grand Sidiki BA

  • @Ilyfb_96
    @Ilyfb_96 Рік тому +3

    I never thought Sidiki looked like his dad but now that I see him young he really do😂

  • @fatimasylla4937
    @fatimasylla4937 3 роки тому +2

    merci beaucoup c'est magnifique❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @maimounadiouf3035
    @maimounadiouf3035 7 років тому +4

    c'est ça l'histoire. c'est merveilleux vraiment
    j'adore

  • @sowsouleymane9956
    @sowsouleymane9956 7 років тому +7

    sa me fait drole de revoir toumami avec son pere grand depositaire de la culture africaine

  • @laminekonate5631
    @laminekonate5631 5 років тому +5

    Fier d'être mandingue

  • @ousmanediallo-ne6mf
    @ousmanediallo-ne6mf 9 років тому +3

    Dors en paix benke Sidiki. vous etiez un grand lion!!!

    • @fatousonk4274
      @fatousonk4274 7 років тому

      ousmane diallo sonko sagnan corimbalou diabaté je vs envois un chèque et vide tout mon compte je reste en découvert wolaï je pense à mon pére

  • @kabamory3465
    @kabamory3465 4 роки тому +2

    Le vrais Sidiki Diabate

  • @WCisse
    @WCisse 5 років тому +3

    Bonjour et merci pour nous avoir faire revivre une partie de l'histoire de notre cher continent. Mais si vous avez l'émission en intégralité slvp met la en ligne.

  • @koralessons
    @koralessons 8 років тому +6

    A masterpiece!

  • @mamadounjaay144
    @mamadounjaay144 Рік тому +1

    Repose en paix legend...

  • @amadoudiallo1437
    @amadoudiallo1437 7 років тому +3

    great historian family from MALI.

  • @khalifakamissoko2183
    @khalifakamissoko2183 6 років тому +2

    Super la suite sur tout histoire de nous kamissoko a kita

  • @kabamory3465
    @kabamory3465 4 роки тому +3

    le grand père de sidiki diabate et son père toumani diabate à coté

  • @maimounadiouf3035
    @maimounadiouf3035 7 років тому

    Avoir la suite de cette vidéo serait fantastique

  • @mikenayl
    @mikenayl 2 роки тому +1

    Legends!

  • @dozonitramakha1470
    @dozonitramakha1470 6 років тому +1

    Traoré traamaraa !! 👊🏾👊🏾👊🏾

  • @williamwallassmith7031
    @williamwallassmith7031 8 років тому +1

    repose en paix Mr Sidicki

  • @khalifakamissoko2183
    @khalifakamissoko2183 6 років тому

    Merci beaucoup stp la suite

  • @adamamacamou1560
    @adamamacamou1560 8 років тому

    Trop trop trop bien je kiffe trop

  • @dickoabdourahmane1656
    @dickoabdourahmane1656 8 років тому +2

    paix à son âme

  • @modydembele3654
    @modydembele3654 5 років тому

    Beautiful story and rip

  • @jeanamadoundiaye9525
    @jeanamadoundiaye9525 8 років тому +2

    wollof ndiayè ! 5.46

  • @toumanisoumano7871
    @toumanisoumano7871 8 років тому +1

    paix éternelle pour mon père

  • @judiyanox34
    @judiyanox34 Рік тому

    Excellent

  • @boubadjaf1433
    @boubadjaf1433 5 років тому

    Une bonne histoire la suite

  • @wullywestwully9424
    @wullywestwully9424 7 років тому

    beautiful story

  • @mbianyorarrey4680
    @mbianyorarrey4680 8 років тому

    This is nice.

  • @Kobatchegny
    @Kobatchegny 6 років тому

    RIP, father of Toumani, RIP.

  • @mohammadnasibzadeh2506
    @mohammadnasibzadeh2506 5 місяців тому

    best👍

  • @diarrasadio8201
    @diarrasadio8201 9 років тому

    magnifique

  • @bd4992
    @bd4992 6 років тому +11

    Il a dit que Kora est d'origine Guinée Bissau.

  • @jenyenkomone5852
    @jenyenkomone5852 6 років тому

    wow granpa so nice history

  • @amadoudiallo1437
    @amadoudiallo1437 7 років тому

    my love and respect

  • @tasilimydiaby43
    @tasilimydiaby43 7 років тому +3

    qui peut me donner le reste de cette vidéo s'il vous plai

  • @WCisse
    @WCisse 8 років тому

    RIP in peace the Big.

  • @Abdoulie
    @Abdoulie Рік тому

    KORA

  • @boubacardiandiabate3868
    @boubacardiandiabate3868 6 років тому +2

    J'aime mandékalou

  • @sissokosekou8495
    @sissokosekou8495 9 років тому +1

    Dors en paix

  • @tasilimydiaby1215
    @tasilimydiaby1215 5 років тому

    la suite s'il vous plaît

  • @bajunkung
    @bajunkung 7 років тому +5

    mandinka in Gambia

  • @bintouniang6458
    @bintouniang6458 6 років тому +1

    S'il vous plait le reste de cette histoire

    • @dtoure4700
      @dtoure4700 5 років тому

      Great history in Mandigo

  • @balloamer1809
    @balloamer1809 8 років тому

    repose en paix

  • @issadoukoure8909
    @issadoukoure8909 8 років тому

    le bon temps

  • @lacinetoure4901
    @lacinetoure4901 6 років тому

    la suite svp

  • @doucouremohamed5318
    @doucouremohamed5318 Рік тому

    Le reste de l'histoire svp

  • @oumarfoutanke4858
    @oumarfoutanke4858 4 роки тому +1

    J'aurai bien voulu comprendre ce qu'il dit

  • @kanoutebakary5400
    @kanoutebakary5400 8 років тому

    pouvez vous rajouter le reste de cette émission

  • @mamadounjaay144
    @mamadounjaay144 Рік тому

    Je ne comprends rien de ce qu'il dit mais je le sens...

  • @laddiyoussoufkeita5896
    @laddiyoussoufkeita5896 5 років тому

    dors en paix

  • @diabasako1422
    @diabasako1422 5 років тому

    Bonjour, avez vous trouvé la suite?

  • @diarraberouge1799
    @diarraberouge1799 7 років тому

    oui ont foyer? ?? dé luî

  • @cheicksadiboukonate653
    @cheicksadiboukonate653 6 років тому +1

    if you undertand manika he said in the video in my village in kita a mandingo village what wrong with you all bamabara is spoken in the center of mali manding south

  • @tasilimydiaby43
    @tasilimydiaby43 6 років тому

    La souite s'il vous plait

  • @samuelezeh8392
    @samuelezeh8392 7 років тому +12

    He is of Gambian origin, he settled in mali .

    • @habnjie5342
      @habnjie5342 7 років тому +2

      Samuel Ezeh very true he originally from Gambia.

    • @sissokobobo7108
      @sissokobobo7108 6 років тому +1

      Samuel Ezeh
      Non ce pas origine du Gambie ce origine du Mali vient di kita la ba ce de mandenka village natal de sidiki diabibate ce de il s'appelle gallin si tu et à kita

    • @litchi9362
      @litchi9362 6 років тому +1

      You right Samuel! His Gambian originally and settled to mali and returned back home gambia ( bansang) where am born! Grandpa sidiki death in The Gambia and babading sisoko sent a airplane to take sidiki death body to barre to mali.
      Grandpa may your gentle soul continues resting in perfect peace.

    • @moussadiarra6347
      @moussadiarra6347 6 років тому +1

      fast and furious

    • @cheicksadiboukonate653
      @cheicksadiboukonate653 6 років тому +2

      no sidiki is from mali he is a mandingo of mali specialy from kita

  • @user-gd3sd7yq3r
    @user-gd3sd7yq3r Місяць тому

    Could anyone teach me, What language is it? I would like to learn this language and understand.

    • @DeversBeats
      @DeversBeats Місяць тому

      I’m from Mali and it’s the bambara language. It’s not really difficult to learn it

    • @user-lx7op7uv6k
      @user-lx7op7uv6k Місяць тому

      C'est langue malinké et non bambara

  • @Morrikunda
    @Morrikunda 6 років тому +1

    ߞߐߣߌ߬!

  • @hamidouba5784
    @hamidouba5784 8 років тому +1

    C est tristes

  • @mamadoukeita2785
    @mamadoukeita2785 6 років тому

    Ce quelle année svp ?

  • @koudywane7253
    @koudywane7253 5 років тому

    Qui peut me traduire ça ?

  • @gabehcoud
    @gabehcoud 8 років тому +2

    Is this the present toumani Diabate father?

    • @Hermes_bergermalinois
      @Hermes_bergermalinois 8 років тому +1

      yes

    • @yayadiakite1195
      @yayadiakite1195 5 років тому

      This is his grandfather who he was name after,the actuel sidiki diabate father is the man next to him whose is playing whit has father

    • @yayadiakite1195
      @yayadiakite1195 5 років тому

      This is sidiki grand father ,he was name after him ,he ,s the senior sidiki is junior ,the man next to him is toumani diabate which is sidiki father

  • @alkalybangoura3023
    @alkalybangoura3023 7 років тому +2

    Dors bien Grand prêtre

  • @omarshyncsowenxunfe5687
    @omarshyncsowenxunfe5687 5 років тому

    Je pense que c'est le kora qu'on appellai avant conni?

    • @syllakai
      @syllakai 3 роки тому

      Le n’goni est cet instrument à 4 cordes que jouait Bazoumana CISSOKO du Mali (faudrait vérifier).
      La kora c’est ce qu’il joue à l’écran.

  • @almamysylla970
    @almamysylla970 6 років тому +3

    La kora c'est le kaabu et rien d'autre. La preuve : vous autres tilibonka ne savez pas la signification de kora.

    • @niamakannidjinemakan6802
      @niamakannidjinemakan6802 3 роки тому +3

      😂😂😂 Il faut bien écouter pour comprendre. Koring bato c'est également le dialecte malinké de konkodougou Kénieba.
      Et il faut reconnaître également que présentement la symphonie du Kora du Mali est plus répandu. C'est plus doux. La mélodie du Kora de Kaabou est très chaud, prédestinait aux batailles alors celle du Mali soigne l'âme.
      Sidiki koroba a du apprendre beaucoup de Sékou Batrou Kouyaté de Kita, le maître de Mory Kanté de la Guinée Conakry et tant d'autres.

  • @compter809
    @compter809 5 років тому +1

    Kora Is from Gambia origin.

    • @dtoure4700
      @dtoure4700 5 років тому +1

      Cora came from Guinea Bissau not gambia

    • @youssoufsanogo1106
      @youssoufsanogo1106 5 років тому +1

      Kora is from Mande and Mande includes Gambia, Mali Guinea etc....so Relax

    • @compter809
      @compter809 5 років тому

      @@youssoufsanogo1106 sidike jaberteh learning the Kora in Gambia after finishing take the Kora to Mali so relax well

    • @youssoufsanogo1106
      @youssoufsanogo1106 5 років тому

      @@compter809 hello I am talking about Mande!!! Not countries from Mande divided by colonialism

  • @user-mz7uj2zu6n
    @user-mz7uj2zu6n 8 місяців тому

    😅

  • @Bambabah
    @Bambabah 9 років тому +1

    He speaks bambara with mandinka "accent", funny.

    • @Bambabah
      @Bambabah 8 років тому +2

      What I meant with "mandinka" is the language in Gambia/casamance/Guinea-Bissau; that language is definitely not the same as maninka/bambara/dioula of eastern Senegal, mali, Guinea...there's very little or no mutual intelligibility. Just because "mandinka" and "maninka" are confusing words and some westerners like to bunch all of them as 1 language doesn't actually make them so. On the other hand, probably the dialect continuum of Guinea/Mali etc can be considered a language, they have actual mutual intelligibility to a large degree as I understand it.

    • @oumouclby7989
      @oumouclby7989 8 років тому +1

      yepp Sidiki Diabaté was originally from Gambia :) Sidiki Diabate (born 1922 in Basang in Gambia)

    • @Bambabah
      @Bambabah 8 років тому +1

      +OceanBreeze
      You seem to be reasoning from an ideological standpoint rather than facts.
      And the fact is, Mandinka which has now several different meanings [because of the Europeans], such as the name of the ethnicity as a whole or the one particular language spoken in Gambia/Casamance/Guinea-Bissau. I mean mandinka as the language and not the ethnicity. The language is many centuries old, mande people were emigrating from Manden (the "original" location around the upper Niger river) to different locations of the empire. Westward emigration is very, very old, I'm sure you've heard of Tiramagan, which the gentleman in this video is talking about. This is more than 700 years ago. There were no colonialism or any influence at all from Europe at this time, the language developed naturally, as one can imagine the area we're talking about is huge and the fact is there were non-Mande people already there.
      So it had all the ingredients to diverge from the central Mandekan (Maninka) and so it did in the aforementioned regions, even forming their own realm independent from Mali as soon as it collapsed (probably already practically existing before that). So this divergence of culture and language is far more deeply rooted than you realize. I suggest you read books on the matter if you don't believe me as your words here seem to be rather opinionated; you said yourself you didn't even know there were Manden in Gambia...so you aren't informed what obvious differences there are in language in between different macro language of the rest of Manden and for instance Gambia, which differs dialectically already within it's borders and not less so than compared to for instance Guinea-Bissau.
      I never said we are different ethnically which is what you seems to work about.
      There are no Wolofs in Guinea-Bissau or Casamance btw. And of course travelers can understand both languages, same as in any two different languages, you can learn both. It's eased to a great degree because of similar vocabulary and grammar. But they obviously aren't similar enough to be classifed as a single language. And this again has nothing to with Europeans.

    • @Bambabah
      @Bambabah 8 років тому

      +OceanBreeze
      Surnames doesn't necessarily has to do with anything at all, but often in Africa it suggests same or similar ethnicity rather than language. And again I never said Mandinka aren't of Manding ethnicity so I don't even know what you're talking about.
      They aren't different dialects. They are different languages.
      www.ethnologue.com/language/mnk
      Soninke are Mande speaking- not Mandekan (Dioula, Bambara, Maninka, Khassonke, Mandinka). Saying they too are of Manding ethnicity is like saying the Susu of Guinea and Mende of Sierra Leone are also of Manding ethnicity, in other words Germans, English, Dutch, Scandinavians and more are all of the same ethnicity, on the basis of them being Germanic language speakers. Similarly, All romance language speakers like French, Spaniards, Portuguese, Italians are all of the same ethnicity because of their shared language family. And that's wildly missing the point of the (necessary) division of a language, a language group and language families. Also doesn't make any sense in popular speech.
      I know there are some Mande people in Mauretania yes, but they aren't Manding in neither ethnicity nor language. I'm not sure being part of an empire has anything to with it.
      It's not quite true, there are wolof villages in the north border but most of the Wolof Census has basis on the Serer people in and around the capital, those aren't actually Wolof but they very similar to wolof and being lumped together (partially on their own initiative). I never said Wolof are only found in Senegal either.
      Could you be more precise what I'm being ignorant on? Because what I'm saying - every study says the same - Mandinka of Gambia/Casamance/Guinea-Bissau is not the same language as the macro languages in Mali/Guinea. And arbitrary Mande people are definitely not part of the particular Manding ethnicity.

    • @Bambabah
      @Bambabah 8 років тому +1

      +OceanBreeze
      If you could cite a single source of scientific work from a linguist or ethnologue the discussion would be much simpler. Instead your aunt is the basis of your arguments which makes me think it's you that is ignorant and not me. Your aunt does not reinforce your arguments more than I contradict it: I speak Mandinka fluently, it's my mother tongue and I barely understand any sentence by Manding Guineans or Malians. Certainly I understand more if they talk slower and with less accent but as far as everyday speech goes, it's easy to understand why these two languages aren't mutually intelligible.
      Speaking the same language or speaking similar "enough" languages are one piece of many for two peoples to be considered to be ethnically same. None of the Susu or Mende are other Mande people are considered to be of the same ethnicity of the Mandings of Kankan, Bamako etc because of the profound language differences AND many cultural differences as well. This is according to themselves as well as ethnologues and it's obvious why.
      Mandinka on the other hand already suggests cultural similarity with other mandings just in it's own ethnic definition. We call ourselves Mandingo. We call other Mandings in Mali/Guinea/Senegal for Mandingo (tilibo). But absolutely do not call the Soninke or other non-Manding people Mandingo. That's our own distinction and from what I know it's the same as in Guinea, they call us "Mandingo" or something equivalent. Given the similarity of the different languages, curiously similar culture practices (I was watching a Guinea theatre one day and noticed the minute long greetings and walking out with your guest after a visit and many other things we do exactly the same in Gambia) and above all same ethnic distinctions, one can consider them to share ethnicity. It's certainly no science where the "ethnic" border lies hence the importance of the involved people's own views of themselves and others.
      So I don't know where I'm "contradicitng" myself. The manding peoples are arguably of the same ethnicity, because if you ask them then that is what they will say; the same cannot be said of a Manding and a Soninke; or certainly not in Gambia (we make fun of their language in fact, fully knowing we share the same ancient heritage).
      Yes, you shouldn't reply when all of what you're saying comes from your hearth rather than from people that study these languages as their job, including mandings themselves - it's far from just "foreigners" that's studying African languages.
      Why would I learn N'ko when it's not my language? What use does it have? Certainly the Gambian, Casamance and Guinea-Bissau people/governments hasn't found a reason to actually use it. If you'd know more about N'ko and it's practices you'd know that already. It's only used in Guinea/Mali/Ivory-Coast etc. In other words, countries within the greater Manding dialect continuum. Not used by countries of former Gabu or even other Mande people like Susu, Soninke or Mende. So guess who is contradicting himself....
      PS: N'Ko has the same meaning only within the *Manding* languages and generally speaking, not other Mande languages.

  • @omarshyncsowenxunfe5687
    @omarshyncsowenxunfe5687 5 років тому

    Moi je pense que c'est le kora qu'on appelle en Guinée conni?,je savoir la différence entre kora et conni?

    • @NouhCoulibaly-gp5kq
      @NouhCoulibaly-gp5kq Місяць тому

      Y'a kora ,y'a conni,y'a kamaleconni.
      Connin est composé de quatre corde , kamaleconni a sixe corde .et ce que le vieux entraîne de jouer c'est ça qui le cora.

  • @MsHelene2009
    @MsHelene2009 8 років тому

    Histoires fictif et unutule

    • @assetoumatherson5810
      @assetoumatherson5810 7 років тому +6

      Aethiop Al-Nasara .LE ridicule ne tue point.Surtout, ce ridicule qu 'enfante l'abjecte ignorance.
      Ce que raconte notre feu pere est la vraie histoire

    • @india5011
      @india5011 5 років тому +1

      Great oral history, please post more of this great history of west Africa.

    • @syllakai
      @syllakai 3 роки тому +1

      Tradition orale ==> culture africaine monsieur !!! La transmission des connaissances se fait par les griots...

  • @omarshyncsowenxunfe5687
    @omarshyncsowenxunfe5687 5 років тому +1

    Je pense que c'est le kora qu'on appellai avant conni?

    • @dtoure4700
      @dtoure4700 5 років тому

      C'est choses differentes mon frere