Ceb's leadership and decision making during the crucial times is what made them win the match especially before the last 2 clash when some other members are thinking to buy time at least for their cool down and items. Ceb is a legend.
The ravage did create a lot of space and at that point in the game, the CD of an ulti can last as long as the death timer of your opponent's core so no biggie
one of the best dota vids i've seen in a long time. the team comms in a high-stakes game with a great example on how late-game heroes work and how teamwork is the most important part of dota. i love it. need more.
I really like these comm videos. match is outdated with the recent update but I still think these types of videos are so valuably insightful. hope we see more
they released this comm videos after the recent update so that they cant use this comm videos against og thats why they released this pretty late already remember they are a competitive team in a major right now
@@momsspaghett8492 ammar puts in an extra effort. He practises like every other pro and the puts in more on top of that. It is very simplistic to downplay it like this.
He probably hates jabz that much. But yeah he did put in effort. Haters will always say its natural but not every pro does this they leave everything to the coach
Ammar's toxic comms aside, you kinda see Ceb's and Ammar's difference in terms of experience in these comms. Both have great understanding of the game along with map awareness, but Ceb has waaay more confidence than Ammar. When behind, Ammar goes back to the 'farm your next item' mentality, while Ceb has to shake the team to tell them they're actually strong despite the kill deficit. Once Ammar actually realizes that Ceb is correct and they are indeed stronger, only then does he do what Ceb has been telling the whole time to go in first. If Ammar wants to be as legendary as Ceb, he needs to maintain that winning mentality even on a losing match.
The moment changes the outcome of the game happened around 28:12 by Ceb. He says "f*** it im going in guys" (which is not translated by the way) and acts as a bait. Then OG took the lead after that fight. Great decision making by Ceb and reading.
Ceb was sooo important to this team …..he is the only one who is telling them whole play and keeping them in same page instead like I have two black wholes or I buy wind breaker
Taiga said i have 2 black holes , and ammar said wind WAKER , although I agree to your point of ceb being important, i don't think they listened to him till the very end in the last 5-10 mins when they coordinated to take the racks , ceb often can be seen being the last one to speak so he can make sense for them in their hype and remind them what's important but they didn't always follow that. .he didn't make his own calls he just reminded them their own calls and helped them.
@@pruthvirajshinde9991 Yee. He was perfect. He never went too strong on them, respected all their input and only by the end when he knew his call was the absolute best, he communicated it in a way that you just know its the right call.
People love to point fingers but when we listen to something like this we realise how close the margins are and often it's just a bad call and not a noob player that loses a game
Ceb goated leader. Really natural. Notice how he always takes the other 4 input except when he knows his call is absolutely the correct one (last fight towards the end of g2) and he communicates it in such a way that you just know you have to follow.
2 time Ceb with the calls and knowledge of timings. Even made his undecisive teammates to man up and fast explained about utiliziing morph front during crucial times. Nice comeback from the young ones too.
Holy Ceb. Like they are winning and Ammar wants another minute for Windwalker another 2 minutes for Double ravage but Ceb sees through that adrenaline and is on point with his calls.
amazing content,.. Dota is not all about mechanics , its about team work team spirit and mental game and CEB my boy CEB is hands down is GOD in this situations Thank you again for releasing these kind of videos... amazing
8:51 Taiga: "I expect no death from you this game" 10:11 died to first blood before the horns :)) 12:08 "put tank in a mall" moment hype by the way, need more of this for sure!
i like this. one thing that could've been done was to color code the chat. like when ammar is speaking, the letters could've been pink, taiga on brown, yuragi green, etc (based on ingame player color).
i heard he was kicked because he couldnt play Micro heroes at the time, I mean OG could have just waited it out for a new patch tl drop like this one, Where there is more farm around the map, PERFECT for that ATF OG squad
Ammar is incredibly good player. Low hero pool does limit him for now, but man is he impactful on his heroes... He had no right to solo carry this many pro games at the start of his career. Also Timber is so broken now. I am a really average Timber player, have some games on him, but not many and my wr is like 40% and I still can't lose a game with him on the new patch. Can't imagine what Ammar is going to do now.
But he's awful at playing if he doesn't have his hero. His decision making is also awful. He should be a coach instead if drafting is all he's good at. Still, I don't think he's a top tier drafter, he just looks good because notail and ceb are there to point out the harder stuff which most people will miss which makes it easier for atf to point out the more obvious stuff. He really understands the basics of drafting which most pro players don't even know, I'll give him that much but his drafting won't carry any team to a trophy.
Unfortunately, they don't want him back. Too limited heroes. And they are forced to play around him. It's not that the team hates him, though. But it was mutual that they go separate ways (saw it from Gorc clip).
This was so awesome to watch. Thanks for uploading! Ceb is a fucking legend. But everybody had their moments in this one for sure. Just an amazing run.
Ceb so clutch with the voice in the team, also Taiga has shows good leadership making the calls with Ceb, was great seeing this. To the other teams, please stop making all star teams that fail, always balance with old players and new blood youngsters this prooves everything
Really happy OG exist, they had such a prodigious run that even when dota2 eventually dies (as all things do in time) one can still fondly remember those peak moments.
Ceb, is the real deal for OG not only a good player but for being a versatile coach because he knows that their opponent is super aggressive but OG heroes are very strong at late game, patience is a virtue, what a genius moves. More of this please with comms.
I wonder why they won these kind of games.. well turns out Ceb is a god at making calls, like he showed over and over again at Kiev and Boston major as a coach and TI8 / 9 as a player and here again. GOAT
That "lol" from jabz really hit hard after the game. He cried like hell after the game and blame himself for them losing. Even topson said that what he did was stupid.
Ceb understanding their power spike and forcing fights, really well played lmao. "i think we need to just man up" gets them to 4 man smoke without him. "we take this fight" walks up hg and dies to force fight, now thats a good support. Be nice if my team saw how strong I think we are
I honestly hope ammar comes back to OG as offlane i know hes really good friends with BZM they really should put them together and make them the core lineup of og and build around them.
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Ceb's leadership and decision making during the crucial times is what made them win the match especially before the last 2 clash when some other members are thinking to buy time at least for their cool down and items.
Ceb is a legend.
without him, they would have lost. These comms looks soloQesq with some of these kids
and a frickin nazi
duh
yea Ceb is thinking about winning while others are thinking not to lose. sometimes its all about leadership
I love ceb but Armel made them win. 😂😂😂 Armel positioning is s2pd af.
Ceb was a stand-in but he had the strongest voice in strategic calls. What a leader! :)
Literally every time he knew his team were stronger he forced his team to fight what a boss.
I mean, he was OG's coach before the Fly-OG split, he better knew that shit
i mean if your teamate is 2 times TI champion, you should listen to him
this is funny, he is a 2 time TI champion plus major winner as a coach. ofc they will listen
like come on dude, this guy 2 times win the aegis back to back because his motivation and strategy
Ammar: I ravaged nothing
Caster: The ravage hold back the backline so they can't help their KotL
XD
well ck and treant is invis, ammar didnt see anything there.. haha
The ravage did create a lot of space and at that point in the game, the CD of an ulti can last as long as the death timer of your opponent's core so no biggie
Its insane watching this after seeing taiga 322 issue
Ceb : Listen, let me talk now
Yuragi , taiga , ammar , bzm : *Listening*
💯💯💯
I was begging for this type of Dota 2 content. Team comms. I love it. Dota 2 needs more of this from other teams!!
hearing notail and ceb command together is such a blessing to dota
Hearing notail voice reminded me of ti 8&9
one of the best dota vids i've seen in a long time. the team comms in a high-stakes game with a great example on how late-game heroes work and how teamwork is the most important part of dota. i love it. need more.
MORE VOICE COMMS! Ceb is a great leader, but the team also responded well with a last minute stand-in. 🔥
When one esports tourny again 👉👈
@@MewTwo0 there will be a dota tourney this year 👀
@@ONEEsports ohhhh👀👀 seshhh make it happen again GGWP
I really like these comm videos. match is outdated with the recent update but I still think these types of videos are so valuably insightful. hope we see more
Fr I was like how tf did Taiga run through the cliff and remembered spider legs was even an item 😂
they released this comm videos after the recent update so that they cant use this comm videos against og
thats why they released this pretty late already
remember they are a competitive team in a major right now
If you release the comms for the back-to-back run, the dota 2 community will thank you!
fr
The Editor: 🗿
those are owned by valve. ask gabe
UPVOTEEEEEEE
they wont leak and risk strategy from the team , they only do this because the game is already patched .
need more content like this, it's great to hear what they're saying to each other. Great insight into how they draft and how to communicate in-game.
The fact that ammar called safelane CK by looking at jabz history matches is crazy. 15 year old first major and he is researching like old pro
If you get paid for playing ofc you'll do tons of research for matches
@@momsspaghett8492 ammar puts in an extra effort. He practises like every other pro and the puts in more on top of that. It is very simplistic to downplay it like this.
@@momsspaghett8492 not necessarily not all players are involved in drafting.
He probably hates jabz that much. But yeah he did put in effort. Haters will always say its natural but not every pro does this they leave everything to the coach
@@ondrejhusar ammar in div 2 now
Ammar's toxic comms aside, you kinda see Ceb's and Ammar's difference in terms of experience in these comms. Both have great understanding of the game along with map awareness, but Ceb has waaay more confidence than Ammar.
When behind, Ammar goes back to the 'farm your next item' mentality, while Ceb has to shake the team to tell them they're actually strong despite the kill deficit. Once Ammar actually realizes that Ceb is correct and they are indeed stronger, only then does he do what Ceb has been telling the whole time to go in first.
If Ammar wants to be as legendary as Ceb, he needs to maintain that winning mentality even on a losing match.
was going to say this too
I really like how ceb motivates his teammates even they are really down in early games
He always have confidence on their heroes
The moment changes the outcome of the game happened around 28:12 by Ceb. He says "f*** it im going in guys" (which is not translated by the way) and acts as a bait. Then OG took the lead after that fight. Great decision making by Ceb and reading.
Ceb was sooo important to this team …..he is the only one who is telling them whole play and keeping them in same page instead like I have two black wholes or I buy wind breaker
Taiga said i have 2 black holes , and ammar said wind WAKER , although I agree to your point of ceb being important, i don't think they listened to him till the very end in the last 5-10 mins when they coordinated to take the racks , ceb often can be seen being the last one to speak so he can make sense for them in their hype and remind them what's important but they didn't always follow that. .he didn't make his own calls he just reminded them their own calls and helped them.
@@pruthvirajshinde9991 perfect stand-in
@@pruthvirajshinde9991 Yee. He was perfect. He never went too strong on them, respected all their input and only by the end when he knew his call was the absolute best, he communicated it in a way that you just know its the right call.
yeah delaying for windwaker makes no sense. Aegis would run out by then
Ceb is the magic that's been missing in the new iteration of OG
People love to point fingers but when we listen to something like this we realise how close the margins are and often it's just a bad call and not a noob player that loses a game
Ceb goated leader. Really natural. Notice how he always takes the other 4 input except when he knows his call is absolutely the correct one (last fight towards the end of g2) and he communicates it in such a way that you just know you have to follow.
Love the video. The documentary couldn't do justice to how resilient OG were to come back in this game
Ceb is really good in bringing the team together even during the drafting phase. Really a legend 💯
Ceb truly carried the comms so fucking hard. Huge props to Ammar and Taiga not losing their nerves from the stomp in early phase.
Ceb is a beast, the balls to call an easy game while losing so badly, this man deserves his post
2 time Ceb with the calls and knowledge of timings.
Even made his undecisive teammates to man up and fast explained about utiliziing morph front during crucial times.
Nice comeback from the young ones too.
12:10 I can read lips and I'm pretty sure Jaunuel said "put tank in the mall" which must be code for "kill the tide"
It's probably not english though
They're Philippines so putanginamo? lol
He exactly said that word and it's so unprofessional, but yeah peenoise are always annoying. LOL
Common for pros to curse.. not new
No he said "putang ina mo" its basically a curse in Pinoy 😂 as sea player, i can guarantee that
look at that graph dude 35:27
classic OG comeback 💪
This is pure gold, passionate players like me love this. Great job Red Bull.
this is what we need thank you for uploading this
I have been craving for this type of content for years! I hope you could release TI8 and TI9 Grand Finals Comms as well!!! More power to OG!!
True sight tho
@@Joe-uo4mk Fair point. There's just this curiosity on how much we still haven't heard from what was shown in True Sights. :D
Holy Ceb. Like they are winning and Ammar wants another minute for Windwalker another 2 minutes for Double ravage but Ceb sees through that adrenaline and is on point with his calls.
Now I think everyone will be happy with TI comms for all games :)
Taiga so happy in the end hahahaha heartwarming
damn ceb's leadership is something else
amazing content,.. Dota is not all about mechanics , its about team work team spirit and mental game and CEB my boy CEB is hands down is GOD in this situations
Thank you again for releasing these kind of videos... amazing
8:51 Taiga: "I expect no death from you this game"
10:11 died to first blood before the horns :))
12:08 "put tank in a mall" moment
hype by the way, need more of this for sure!
This is incredible, please post more of these!
Team: Discuss discuss about heroes etc.
Last pick*
Ammar: Okay space I give you captain
Yuragi: *Picks morph without discussing/bringing it up* 😂
FYI, spAce is Yuragi's old nickname
I mean they did discuss it, just they had trust in their carry.
If only kuro would trust his team like this
Ceb smiling thinking about flash backs of TI 8 and 9 with N0tail I think that why he laughed
i like this. one thing that could've been done was to color code the chat. like when ammar is speaking, the letters could've been pink, taiga on brown, yuragi green, etc (based on ingame player color).
also 12:09 "put*ng in* m*" xD
"could have picked courier" 🤯🤯
I question ammar at times but he played one of the best tide games i’ve ever seen this game, amazing patience in team fights
i heard he was kicked because he couldnt play Micro heroes at the time, I mean OG could have just waited it out for a new patch tl drop like this one, Where there is more farm around the map, PERFECT for that ATF OG squad
He decided to leave OG thats what he said he wanted to play carry
Ammar is incredibly good player. Low hero pool does limit him for now, but man is he impactful on his heroes... He had no right to solo carry this many pro games at the start of his career. Also Timber is so broken now. I am a really average Timber player, have some games on him, but not many and my wr is like 40% and I still can't lose a game with him on the new patch. Can't imagine what Ammar is going to do now.
@@shieldhero681he not get kicked, he leave he want to be carry player, but he sadly he fail being carry player
@@TheSLashera Low hero pool isnt a limit, Remember Topson Ti8?
18:33 "I think in like 10 minutes we got this"
Yo BZM should try Oracle mid as he was one himself.
By 10 minutes they were still losing man
Thanks for all the great memories you've made us, back from TI to this
Really excellent content! More comms pls
If i remember correctly, after that 2-0 Armel taunt, OG gone straight up winning the major without losing another series, or maybe another match.
That 1 is malaysia tournament..
Ammar is actually very smart about the game, and the drafting
yeah but he got tired of it and went to nigma so kuro can do all the drafting
But he's awful at playing if he doesn't have his hero. His decision making is also awful.
He should be a coach instead if drafting is all he's good at.
Still, I don't think he's a top tier drafter, he just looks good because notail and ceb are there to point out the harder stuff which most people will miss which makes it easier for atf to point out the more obvious stuff. He really understands the basics of drafting which most pro players don't even know, I'll give him that much but his drafting won't carry any team to a trophy.
Ammar is such a genius at his age, he is able to draft with veterans. Idc even if he cant play micro heroes, he needs to go back at OG.
Unfortunately, they don't want him back. Too limited heroes. And they are forced to play around him. It's not that the team hates him, though. But it was mutual that they go separate ways (saw it from Gorc clip).
@@chadfabela1533 ATF's ego is too big for OG. TI8-TI9 OG we're all humble and grounded. The perfect Dota team.
despair all game, and they STILL WIN IT. GOD I LOVE DOTA SO MUCH!
When Ceb goes "guys, listen to me". Changed things instantly
This was so awesome to watch. Thanks for uploading! Ceb is a fucking legend. But everybody had their moments in this one for sure. Just an amazing run.
Watching this gave me chills 😮
Good job OG. We need more videos like this. You have the most interesting channel in all dota 2 franchise team. Job well done to the staffs.
Ceb so clutch with the voice in the team, also Taiga has shows good leadership making the calls with Ceb, was great seeing this. To the other teams, please stop making all star teams that fail, always balance with old players and new blood youngsters this prooves everything
and that's what i call a perfect shot call for Ceb .. goosebumps at the end
more content like this please, it's so fun to watch ❤
Awesome upload thanks!!!
We see a bright future with this young players of OG with Ceb leading at guiding them
wowowowo this is awesome! more of such content please!
Need more of these!
We’ve seen it over and over, ceb is the heart of the team.
Really happy OG exist, they had such a prodigious run that even when dota2 eventually dies (as all things do in time) one can still fondly remember those peak moments.
We need more comms videos.this is so nice
Ceb, is the real deal for OG not only a good player but for being a versatile coach because he knows that their opponent is super aggressive but OG heroes are very strong at late game, patience is a virtue, what a genius moves. More of this please with comms.
What a show from Ceb. Please do more videos like this!
Have to say i love this. Would love to get more comms content
I wonder why they won these kind of games..
well turns out Ceb is a god at making calls, like he showed over and over again at Kiev and Boston major as a coach and TI8 / 9 as a player and here again. GOAT
you can tell the young guys needed someone like ceb and notail to reel em into whats really important during the pick-ban phases
very cool video. i want more like this from all the teams
I thought Ammar was only breathing hard in Gorgc stream but he is also a breather official games lol
This is great content guys!!
OG: We don’t expect a death from you Morph.
FNATIC: First to die, Morph 😂
I love hearing team comms man
That "lol" from jabz really hit hard after the game. He cried like hell after the game and blame himself for them losing. Even topson said that what he did was stupid.
I forgot about the cat and mouse game enigma and treant were doing the entire game, neither using ult recklessly or the other one benefits a lot.
Ah yes, the natural urge to let team know of your amazing placement of an aggressive high ground ward
Please release the comms for the back-to-back to run, or atleast the IO game in the finals, everyone would love it
Unfortunately those Comms belong to valve because of true sight so you're asking the wrong people
Omg this is what i always wanted, THX OG
amazing video, hope to see more of it :))
Seriosuly, OG Games like this are way more better and fun to watch than any other movies.
Ceb: think about how to win the fight
Kuroky: Stop thinking about winning!
No that was miracle who said that to kuroky😂
@@Harz02 check TI7 True Sight for the reference Miracle made at TI9 True Sight
POG CONTENT FROM OG AS USUAL
That music is exhausting... especially in an endless loop.
damn! no wonder OG won TI 2x in a row. Ceb is a legend!
Just gonna like the video before watching it.. because i'm already thankful for it
The day that to comms are released for the back to back will be the day the Dota community will always remember.
I gotta say i miss ammar in this team. He doesnt sound toxic at all though he is really assertive but in a good way.
put tank in a mall spotted @12:08
This and Berlin Major prove that these talent kids need an experienced leader to lead them
OMG! more of this PLEASE!!!
Thank you Redbull for this insight!
Ceb is my favorite player of all time for a reason. He makes our entire country proud ! GG
More of this OG!!!!
Ceb understanding their power spike and forcing fights, really well played lmao. "i think we need to just man up" gets them to 4 man smoke without him. "we take this fight" walks up hg and dies to force fight, now thats a good support. Be nice if my team saw how strong I think we are
goosebumps man. nice to feel the vibes of the team
Ceb telling the others to "man up" reminded me of TI8 JerAx when they were hesitating.
It feels so tactical with this edit. Call of duty like. Loving it
I honestly hope ammar comes back to OG as offlane i know hes really good friends with BZM they really should put them together and make them the core lineup of og and build around them.
When OG gets over confident, they lose. Ceb is the guy who keeps the team calm
ceb comands always on point . what a lagend
35:55 Ammar knows that KOTL bought a new items.. He's very smart.. But stubborn..
we want more of this!