Gary, your video is the best video I have seen yet. I have watched alot of videos on building a cart like this and they never break down the details as you did on building it. Please keep doing detail videos like this and I will watch all of your videos in the future. I gave you a thumbs up because of your detail in explaining how you build it and the measurements you used! This is what beginner wood workers like myself want to gain confidence!!!
Wow your comment means a lot! I am actually in the middle of editing a video to help beginners plan a project easier and to to give them help at the sawmill when buying lumber. Please tell your friends about my channel….. more videos coming so make sure to subscribe! The next few videos I release will be related to my Roubo bench build but are intended to be skill builders for the techniques needed to build the bench and then I will do the actual bench video.
Gary, I think you are the only I've seen that has used 1/2" threaded rod for the rotating rod. And it makes absolute sense! Especially when you are using 1/2" eye bolts, brilliant! Then all you need is 1/2" ply, simple! Great job! 👏👏👏👏
Thanks Guy! I’m glad you liked the video. Please subscribe so you don’t miss future furniture projects. The next few videos will be skill builders for building a Roubo bench, then a Roubo bench and then furniture builds.
Gary, thank you for a great video. the level of detail was perfect. I am going to use your information to make flip stand for my planer and a DWS779 12 In. Double-Bevel Sliding Compound Miter saw. Have not drawn it up yet but will need to be bigger to accommodate a large saw. Thanks again - well done!
I’m designing my cart with the same planer. I really like you showing measurements with some reasoning as there were a few items I hadn’t thought of. Thanks and keep making videos.👍🏽
Thanks for watching and commenting Paul. I appreciate it. I will definitely continue making videos and try to explain my reasoning and provide measurements when I can too. I’m hoping to do some build videos over the next few months so please make sure to subscribe and let other woodworkers know about my channel.
Gary, I really appreciate your clear and concise descriptions of your cart and why you built it to satisfy the functions you needed. This is the first cart I have seen with the planer turned in this orientation on the cart which makes a lot of sense for what I assume is to make good use of how the cart stores when not in use.
Gary, I just can't get over all the detail and craftsmanship you put into this cart. I like how everything functions especially the drawer on the bottom. Great job and I am looking forward to the next project! Asplenia.
Thanks for your kind words. I hope to start cranking out some real projects for everyone to see very soon. So far my channel has been mostly me just getting my feet wet with UA-cam.
Thanks Duncan. I'm glad it helped! It has worked well for a couple years now. The next few videos I release will be related to my Roubo bench build but are intended to be skill builders for the techniques needed to build the bench and then I will do the actual bench video. Thanks for watching!
@ 8:10 you mentioned wanting to do a 4" or 5" caster... I actually wouldn't advise that. I had the same issue of using 3" casters and having issues rolling carts around, so I bought a few sets of 4" and a set of 5" for my tables/carts. The problem is they will rock and wobble when locked in place. It's like they are too tall and the center of gravity makes it wobble. The 4 inch were bad, but the 5 inch were REALLY bad. I took those off my router table asap. I've been trying to locate a 4 inch dual wheel casters in the hopes that the wider base will prevent wobble.
Larger wheels will make it roll over stuff easier, but raising the height by that much will make is tipper. Can you mount larger wheels 2-3 inches above the base of the stand?
@M Frit yeah, I had a typo in my post. It said "Dust wheels" where I meant it to say "Dual Wheels". And I did exactly what you mentioned in a roundabout way. I used a 4" caster with a ⅜-16 post rather than a flat post. Then I coupled it to longer ⅜-16 rod, through a series of supports. Now, I can raise and lower the wheels as much as I need l, when I need it. Basically I made a caster base version of those leveling mounts that are on a longer scale. Also, I mounted them internally on the frame so they don't protrude outwards. The only issue I'm worried about is the actual caster wheels. I bought a cheap set to see if it would even work... and now I'm concerned as the casters are just a plastic hub without bushings or bearings. So I'll likely just replace the casters and mount them to a piece of plywood with a ⅜-16 bolt facing upwards.
A very smart design and a great looking cart! I'm interested to know how you connected the sides to the bottom and any consideration you may have made as to the possible cutting action and wear caused by the threaded rod.
Hey Franklin. I simply used biscuits (in pairs). I know I used a pair at the front and a pair at the back but I forget if I used a set in the middle as well. Knowing me I likely put a set in the middle too. As far as the threaded rod goes, I did not consider the possible wear that will happen as the top is rotated but you’re right it will wear over time for sure. I only flip the cart a few times a year so I’ll likely die before it’s an issue. Luckily both ends should wear evenly. I like the way you think so keep the comments coming!
I wish people would make videos like this in two parts 1 (like this one) after building project and explaining functionality etc. And part 2 the building of the project. Mostly all videos will jump right into the building of the project or in the same video building and show that takes more then 5 minutes maybe 10. Some people like me look at time of the video's and will look at the short video 1st, to get started on one video first because there is so many. I hope this makes sense. Thank you for your video great job I will subscribe 😀
Thank you Jp! I never thought about your suggestion before but I can see how that could be beneficial. Any suggestions on how I should do the video for my split top Roubo bench?
Hi, Appreciated this build and the detailed description. Especially liked the threaded rod through the middle and the way the eye bolts very safely locked the top in place. Just wondering what the weights of the planer and sander are and how much they can differ before this concept doesn’t work so well?
I know the Dewalt 735 is about 90 lbs but offhand I don’t know about the sander. It’s fairly light. I would estimate less than 40 lbs. This design will work fine for any weight difference because when you are using one machine or the other all the weight is vertical. However, the top will be more challenging to flip the greater the weight difference is. I hope that helps.
This was a perfect video for me. I have the flip cart but was concerned about the size of the planer, if it would fit (and if it could be flipped). Thanks for sharing! I do have one other question.... what is the matting you're using on you floor? My shop floor is double 3/4 inch plywood and painted with a sealer. However, it make is a tiny bit slippery. So when I lock my wheel, my carts can still slide some. The matting you're using strikes me as a good idea. What is it and how do you like it? Thank you again!.
Shop Flooring Over Concrete // Enjoy Working Again! ua-cam.com/video/a3RGSIgBu3I/v-deo.html I don’t move many of my machines around so this flooring works fine. If I actually rolled my machines over the flooring I would get denser/harder flooring because it would stay put rather than bubbling up as the wheels rolled across it.
I really like your take on the flip-top cart. Thanks for sharing your dimensions and giving very clear explanations as well. You have come up with an original version that really appeals to me. A question for you - Do you find that the height is a little too high for your spindle sander? I feel like it might be hard to see what's going on at that height. (I'm 5'10"). It's nice that your infeed/outfeed clears your table saw, but mine wouldn't have to.
I just used biscuits Dave. Thanks for watching! Make sure to subscribe (if you aren’t already),…. you don’t want to miss the split top Roubo Bench build soon to be released!
I’m not sure. I got them from a local cabinet shop so they were loose in a box. It’s cool that someone has actually built something based on my project. I think you are the first person to tell me that! Thanks for watching!
Thanks for watching Len! I have a set of Veritas bevel up planes (low angle block, smoother and jack) but I’m debating on replacing them with Woodriver bevel down planes. Why do you ask?
Do you know what the minimum clearance is for just the planer? I inherited a 3" x 2" rolling bench with butcher block top. Thinking about doing.something like this with it. I have about 17" below the top and the lower metal shelf. Thanks.
So I just took a look at mine to try and estimate those measurements for you and I think it may be possible with 17” of clearance (I think 18” would work). Just to be sure I think I would make a model of some kind before wasting time, building it for real. Based on what you told me it’s going to be very close.
@@garynelles good idea. I'll just make a cardboard box roughly the same size and see what I need. I may be able to model it up in CAD as well and spin it at the axle location.
@Gary Nelles Woodworking Just did that and I'm short about an inch. I may be able to drop the lower shelf a couple inches to make it work. It's a Gladiator 3' mobile workstation. Pretty heavy duty, can hold 600 pounds, so I want to make it work. With the planer flipped under, it can slide under my current workbench.
I actually do not have plans Len. I built the flip cart before I even considered making UA-cam videos and the plan is in my head. If there are details you need that are not in the video just ask here in the comments and I’ll take them directly off the cart and reply back.
Nice stand but in your design it only leaves what looks like 1/2 inch of plywood above the grooves in the sides of the stand that the eyebolts slide into to lock the top down. I feel that piece could easily break if the eyebolt is left in the wrong position while turning the top. Fix This Build That design has a lot more “meat” above those grooves. Nice stand thou
Frank, this is a great comment because I bet others are thinking the same (I know I was a little skeptical when I first built the cart too). You are correct.... just 1/2" above the slot for the eyebolts. You made me rethink this while I was having my coffee this morning so here are my thoughts and experiences. 1. That area is also 1" wide (the thickness of the side) which greatly strengthens it. 2. Even with all eyebolts in the unlocked position, the top balances on its own until it it rotated at least 5-10 degrees from perfectly level so even if one eyebolt was in the locked position, there really wouldn't be any significant stress/force on it until someone tried to flip it. 3. Whenever I have tried flip the top and forgot to unlock one of the eyebolts, I am met with enough resistance that it's obvious at least one eyebolt is still locked and it simply won't budge. I don't think I have ever even heard the plywood cracking or making any noise either. I hope this helps everyone!
Currently [January 2022] our only local source for 12mm baltic birch is $3/sq. ft. How many square feet did your project end up consuming? My desire would be your design to accommodate DW735 planer and DWE7485 saw.
Hey Lance. Off the top of my head I would say about 40-45 or so. I bought it about 5 years ago for another project I didn’t end up making and don’t recall what the cost was at that time. It was only available as 5’x5’ sheets so two sheets should do it with the offcuts for a drawer. I’d go to: www.cutlistoptimizer.com and put your pieces into it to minimize waste so you know for sure.
Gary, your video is the best video I have seen yet. I have watched alot of videos on building a cart like this and they never break down the details as you did on building it. Please keep doing detail videos like this and I will watch all of your videos in the future. I gave you a thumbs up because of your detail in explaining how you build it and the measurements you used! This is what beginner wood workers like myself want to gain confidence!!!
Wow your comment means a lot! I am actually in the middle of editing a video to help beginners plan a project easier and to to give them help at the sawmill when buying lumber. Please tell your friends about my channel….. more videos coming so make sure to subscribe!
The next few videos I release will be related to my Roubo bench build but are intended to be skill builders for the techniques needed to build the bench and then I will do the actual bench video.
Gary, I think you are the only I've seen that has used 1/2" threaded rod for the rotating rod. And it makes absolute sense! Especially when you are using 1/2" eye bolts, brilliant! Then all you need is 1/2" ply, simple! Great job! 👏👏👏👏
Thanks Guy! I’m glad you liked the video. Please subscribe so you don’t miss future furniture projects. The next few videos will be skill builders for building a Roubo bench, then a Roubo bench and then furniture builds.
Gary, thank you for a great video. the level of detail was perfect. I am going to use your information to make flip stand for my planer and a DWS779
12 In. Double-Bevel Sliding Compound Miter saw. Have not drawn it up yet but will need to be bigger to accommodate a large saw. Thanks again - well done!
That’s gonna be cool!
I’m designing my cart with the same planer. I really like you showing measurements with some reasoning as there were a few items I hadn’t thought of. Thanks and keep making videos.👍🏽
Thanks for watching and commenting Paul. I appreciate it. I will definitely continue making videos and try to explain my reasoning and provide measurements when I can too. I’m hoping to do some build videos over the next few months so please make sure to subscribe and let other woodworkers know about my channel.
Gary, I really appreciate your clear and concise descriptions of your cart and why you built it to satisfy the functions you needed. This is the first cart I have seen with the planer turned in this orientation on the cart which makes a lot of sense for what I assume is to make good use of how the cart stores when not in use.
Thank you for your comment. I appreciate it. Thanks for tuning in as well.
Your assumption is correct.
Great video! Thanks for posting this!
Gary, outstanding build, nice work.
Thanks for watching and commenting. It helps the algorithm. I appreciate it!
Hi Gary! Finished my flip table yesterday and thrilled with the final product! Thanks again for all the details in your video.
Awesome! Glad it was helpful!
That is so smart! I'm copying this for myself or maybe incorporate it in to a bench. Simple amd effective.
It’s been working great for me. Thanks for watching and good luck with your build!
Gary,
I just can't get over all the detail and craftsmanship you put into this cart.
I like how everything functions especially the drawer on the bottom.
Great job and I am looking forward to the next project!
Asplenia.
Thanks for your kind words. I hope to start cranking out some real projects for everyone to see very soon. So far my channel has been mostly me just getting my feet wet with UA-cam.
Thanks Gary. The measurements are helpful. It looks like a really solid unit. Best Wishes from Edmonton.
Thanks Duncan. I'm glad it helped! It has worked well for a couple years now. The next few videos I release will be related to my Roubo bench build but are intended to be skill builders for the techniques needed to build the bench and then I will do the actual bench video. Thanks for watching!
Thanks Gary. Some great tips.
Thanks Duncan I appreciate your kind words and that you watched the video. Make sure to subscribe because I’ve got lots more coming!
@ 8:10 you mentioned wanting to do a 4" or 5" caster... I actually wouldn't advise that. I had the same issue of using 3" casters and having issues rolling carts around, so I bought a few sets of 4" and a set of 5" for my tables/carts.
The problem is they will rock and wobble when locked in place. It's like they are too tall and the center of gravity makes it wobble. The 4 inch were bad, but the 5 inch were REALLY bad. I took those off my router table asap.
I've been trying to locate a 4 inch dual wheel casters in the hopes that the wider base will prevent wobble.
Interesting, I’ll keep that in mind. I wouldn’t have thought of that.
Larger wheels will make it roll over stuff easier, but raising the height by that much will make is tipper. Can you mount larger wheels 2-3 inches above the base of the stand?
@M Frit yeah, I had a typo in my post. It said "Dust wheels" where I meant it to say "Dual Wheels".
And I did exactly what you mentioned in a roundabout way.
I used a 4" caster with a ⅜-16 post rather than a flat post. Then I coupled it to longer ⅜-16 rod, through a series of supports.
Now, I can raise and lower the wheels as much as I need l, when I need it.
Basically I made a caster base version of those leveling mounts that are on a longer scale.
Also, I mounted them internally on the frame so they don't protrude outwards.
The only issue I'm worried about is the actual caster wheels. I bought a cheap set to see if it would even work... and now I'm concerned as the casters are just a plastic hub without bushings or bearings. So I'll likely just replace the casters and mount them to a piece of plywood with a ⅜-16 bolt facing upwards.
Good explanation Gary. Thanks for posting!
You are very welcome!
thanks Gary very helpful video
You’re welcome. Thanks for watching!
Well done
Thanks Gary and thanks for watching! I appreciate it as I want to get this channel up off the ground.
A very smart design and a great looking cart! I'm interested to know how you connected the sides to the bottom and any consideration you may have made as to the possible cutting action and wear caused by the threaded rod.
Hey Franklin. I simply used biscuits (in pairs). I know I used a pair at the front and a pair at the back but I forget if I used a set in the middle as well. Knowing me I likely put a set in the middle too. As far as the threaded rod goes, I did not consider the possible wear that will happen as the top is rotated but you’re right it will wear over time for sure. I only flip the cart a few times a year so I’ll likely die before it’s an issue. Luckily both ends should wear evenly. I like the way you think so keep the comments coming!
Gary, Thank you for your reply. I think you are probably right about the wear. It should take a while.@@garynelles
@franklincawthon5047 no problem. So the million dollar question is: are you going to build one?
I wish people would make videos like this in two parts 1 (like this one) after building project and explaining functionality etc. And part 2 the building of the project.
Mostly all videos will jump right into the building of the project or in the same video building and show that takes more then 5 minutes maybe 10.
Some people like me look at time of the video's and will look at the short video 1st, to get started on one video first because there is so many. I hope this makes sense. Thank you for your video great job I will subscribe 😀
Thank you Jp! I never thought about your suggestion before but I can see how that could be beneficial. Any suggestions on how I should do the video for my split top Roubo bench?
Hi, Appreciated this build and the detailed description. Especially liked the threaded rod through the middle and the way the eye bolts very safely locked the top in place. Just wondering what the weights of the planer and sander are and how much they can differ before this concept doesn’t work so well?
I know the Dewalt 735 is about 90 lbs but offhand I don’t know about the sander. It’s fairly light. I would estimate less than 40 lbs. This design will work fine for any weight difference because when you are using one machine or the other all the weight is vertical. However, the top will be more challenging to flip the greater the weight difference is. I hope that helps.
@@garynelles Thanks for the reply, it is helpful.
You’re welcome
This was a perfect video for me. I have the flip cart but was concerned about the size of the planer, if it would fit (and if it could be flipped). Thanks for sharing! I do have one other question.... what is the matting you're using on you floor? My shop floor is double 3/4 inch plywood and painted with a sealer. However, it make is a tiny bit slippery. So when I lock my wheel, my carts can still slide some. The matting you're using strikes me as a good idea. What is it and how do you like it?
Thank you again!.
Shop Flooring Over Concrete // Enjoy Working Again!
ua-cam.com/video/a3RGSIgBu3I/v-deo.html
I don’t move many of my machines around so this flooring works fine. If I actually rolled my machines over the flooring I would get denser/harder flooring because it would stay put rather than bubbling up as the wheels rolled across it.
Do you have plans for this? Amazing work!
I unfortunately do not. That’s why I tried to give as many measurements as possible.
I really like your take on the flip-top cart. Thanks for sharing your dimensions and giving very clear explanations as well. You have come up with an original version that really appeals to me. A question for you - Do you find that the height is a little too high for your spindle sander? I feel like it might be hard to see what's going on at that height. (I'm 5'10"). It's nice that your infeed/outfeed clears your table saw, but mine wouldn't have to.
I’m 5’7”. Although I would like the table of the spindle sander a little lower, I can easily see what’s going on so you should be fine at 5’10”.
@gary - i am building the cart now & almost done - question - how deep is the drawer? Is it the full 27” deep? Thx!
Yeah, it fills the entire bottom cavity. I figured that I should maximize the use of the space for storage.
@@garynelles thanks - i love the cart design so far and will share pics when done - thanks for the info to get it done!
It’s worked well for me for a couple years. I don’t see any reason to change it anytime soon.
Hi Gary. I can't wait to build this cart. Thanks for the video!! How did you affix the sides to the bottom and the 'shelf' to the sides? Thanks again.
I just used biscuits Dave. Thanks for watching! Make sure to subscribe (if you aren’t already),…. you don’t want to miss the split top Roubo Bench build soon to be released!
@@garynelles I've subscribed. 😁 One more question, what is the length of the 1/2" eyebolts? Thanks again!
@@daveluebkeman1952 grand total 5” but the shaft portion is 3”.
@@garynelles Appreciate the quick reply! Starting gluing the side panels yesterday. Excited to see how it 'turns' out. 😉
Nice build. I used this as my model for my build this weekend. I am curious- what specific Blum drawer mounts did you use?
I’m not sure. I got them from a local cabinet shop so they were loose in a box. It’s cool that someone has actually built something based on my project. I think you are the first person to tell me that! Thanks for watching!
Gary nice job on your flip top planer stand do you have a set of planes
Thanks for watching Len! I have a set of Veritas bevel up planes (low angle block, smoother and jack) but I’m debating on replacing them with Woodriver bevel down planes. Why do you ask?
Do you know what the minimum clearance is for just the planer? I inherited a 3" x 2" rolling bench with butcher block top. Thinking about doing.something like this with it. I have about 17" below the top and the lower metal shelf. Thanks.
So I just took a look at mine to try and estimate those measurements for you and I think it may be possible with 17” of clearance (I think 18” would work). Just to be sure I think I would make a model of some kind before wasting time, building it for real. Based on what you told me it’s going to be very close.
@@garynelles good idea. I'll just make a cardboard box roughly the same size and see what I need. I may be able to model it up in CAD as well and spin it at the axle location.
@@mfrit67 ya if you can easily do in CAD or sketchup that would take all the guesswork out of the equation.
@Gary Nelles Woodworking Just did that and I'm short about an inch. I may be able to drop the lower shelf a couple inches to make it work. It's a Gladiator 3' mobile workstation. Pretty heavy duty, can hold 600 pounds, so I want to make it work. With the planer flipped under, it can slide under my current workbench.
Great cabinet. What was used to secure the planner to the top?
Just bolts through the factory mounting holes in the planer chassis.
Hi Gary when I committed on flip top cabinet I see that ask you for planes I meant to say a set of plans for your flip top cabinet .
Thank You
I actually do not have plans Len. I built the flip cart before I even considered making UA-cam videos and the plan is in my head. If there are details you need that are not in the video just ask here in the comments and I’ll take them directly off the cart and reply back.
Nice stand but in your design it only leaves what looks like 1/2 inch of plywood above the grooves in the sides of the stand that the eyebolts slide into to lock the top down. I feel that piece could easily break if the eyebolt is left in the wrong position while turning the top. Fix This Build That design has a lot more “meat” above those grooves. Nice stand thou
Frank, this is a great comment because I bet others are thinking the same (I know I was a little skeptical when I first built the cart too). You are correct.... just 1/2" above the slot for the eyebolts. You made me rethink this while I was having my coffee this morning so here are my thoughts and experiences.
1. That area is also 1" wide (the thickness of the side) which greatly strengthens it.
2. Even with all eyebolts in the unlocked position, the top balances on its own until it it rotated at least 5-10 degrees from perfectly level so even if one eyebolt was in the locked position, there really wouldn't be any significant stress/force on it until someone tried to flip it.
3. Whenever I have tried flip the top and forgot to unlock one of the eyebolts, I am met with enough resistance that it's obvious at least one eyebolt is still locked and it simply won't budge. I don't think I have ever even heard the plywood cracking or making any noise either.
I hope this helps everyone!
Currently [January 2022] our only local source for 12mm baltic birch is $3/sq. ft. How many square feet did your project end up consuming? My desire would be your design to accommodate DW735 planer and DWE7485 saw.
Hey Lance. Off the top of my head I would say about 40-45 or so. I bought it about 5 years ago for another project I didn’t end up making and don’t recall what the cost was at that time. It was only available as 5’x5’ sheets so two sheets should do it with the offcuts for a drawer. I’d go to: www.cutlistoptimizer.com and put your pieces into it to minimize waste so you know for sure.
Baltic Birch ply??? Does that still exist? 😆 😢
I had some leftover from a project in 2016. Thanks for watching! I appreciate it!