What makes this fight even funnier? They actually handicapped Thor in this fight so Vegeta can put up a fight. They didn't add that Thor had access to the Odinforce which makes him even stronger & would have ended the fight a lot sooner. Vegeta had no shot in this fight Lol.
To be fair with the multiplier they gave Thor and vegeta vegeta should have won against their version of Thor they really compared the transformation that rivals ultra instinct a 20x but if you take the spirit bomb amp vegeta should have bin 3200x stronger then his blue evolved version the other versions of Thor would just clap his shit but the version death battle picked should have lost because going by their own math vegeta should have an advantage in raw power (against their version of Thor any other version would kill him)
What's funny is these are all 616 Thor's feats. So they aren't really combining universes that much if at all in this fight. Hell, they nerfed Thor in this since they didn't give him the Odin force. Vegeta would have been destroyed way easier if they gave him that.
@@logandelaharpe6362 Composite Hulk, composite Sentry, composite Thanos, composite Jean Grey, composite Scarlet Witch, composite Doctor Strange, composite Superman, composite Wonder Woman, composite Flash, composite Green Lantern, composite Doctor Fate, some Digimons and Transformers as far as i know, several Umineko characters, Xenoverse Goku, and so on, many of them could even defeat composite Thor.
@@marmyeater Not giving him the Odinforce isn't nerfing him, since Odinforce isn't standard. It would be like saying they nerfed Doom by not having it be God Emperor Doom fighting Lex.
@@youngmelo4963 No, it isn't standard to Thor. Standard for Thor is Thor without the OF. That's what standard means. His default isn't him having the Odin Force.
6:12 No the hell there not. They literally low balled the S**t out of him for the episode and only mentioned a small portion of him Abilities, Powers, And Hacks. It’s literally the same version of Thor that has access to all of these abilities. It’s all Standard. And he literally Destroys Vegeta because It’s not even close
@@logandelaharpe6362 Exactly. Because If they gave him The Odin/Thor Force. Then he Stomps even harder and the debate that never existed, Somehow becomes even less.
If they have him The Odin Force then Vegeta Is BEYOND F***ED, And Thor Is now one of the most powerful characters Death Battles ever used as of now. Let alone Rune King Thor
6:08 No there not. That was literally all done by the same one version of Thor that there sticking with. Death Battle only used one version of Thor for this episode. And also, What they just listed was literally a small portion of what he could actually do. And they Really Nurfed him too because they didn’t even give him The Odin Force because then he Stomps even harder
@@HeadGodoftheGodCouncil Exactly. It doesn’t just hold one version of Asgard. It holds every version of Asgard across all Infinite Time Lines, Dimensions, Reality’s, alternate universes, Etc.
So you do know that Dragon Ball has several different cannons right? The Games, the Anime, the manga, Dragon Ball GT, and Dragon Ball Hero's are all different continuities, so your argument against Thor is pretty invalid, not to mention they only used 616 Thor and downplayed him as well.
I find it interesting that you talk about Dragon Ball having one canon, even though it technically has two as the anime and the manga contradict one another on several occasions!
Like how Gohan can match Kefla in the manga but not so in the anime? Yeah. A lot of anime only watchers don’t grasp the Dragon Ball Super stuff. I feel like it’s partially on the fault of whoever decided it was a good idea to just create outlines of the plot, but no firm guidance, thus they can take creative writing liberties.
@@theomnigamer9177 It's also really interesting that Dragon Ball Manga (including Z arc) > Dragon Ball/Dragon Ball Z anime Dragon Ball Super Anime > Dragon Ball Super Manga Super anime trumps the manga while Z and older manga trumps anime
@@mel-el5862 Yup. Also, for Super, if something in the Manga/Anime contradict each other, the anime is the canon source, while Manga isn't. Opposite for Dragon Ball/Dragon Ball Z anime and manga. Heroes is it's own thing, same with Xenoverse. Never watched GT though so can't really say about that.
Keeping it canon by having the Final Flash not defeating Vegeta’s opponent. Vegeta should really just learn to stop using that move all together, that way he will get more wins.
Not to mention even the weakest base galactus beat Hyperstorm who one with the Hypersapce which is beyond Infinite dimensions and a weak galactus beat him like he was an ant. Even weak base galactus is like 1-A beyond anything Dragon ball has to offer not even the entire franchise.
Once again dragon ball (anime) fans whining about their guy losing. Can't take a point that your characters aren't the true bad asses they think theyare. I've had my picks lose but don't throw a tantrum about it. I don't think I've seen more fans of a group of characters whine, piss and moan more than dragon ball fans!
Marvel comics have one sequence of canon, when a book is about a different universe, they made it _very_ clear. Frog Thor is canon, BTW. It's part of his history, and there's still a frog out there with a tiny piece of the hammer, he's part of the Pet Avengers.
It felt like you were over salty here, made it a degree of uncomfortable to watch. Had enough reprieve for me to finish, but you wanna check that temper man. Made you seem fairly toxic. I did finish the video, and I will acknowledge how you got VERY much lighter energy. Perfect recovery. Though, you're projecting a lot of your own frustration to other people. I'm a anime fan, and I wasn't pissed off because it made sense. When it fits within reason, there's no reason to be upset.
@@marmyeater Indeed it was. In fact it was so bad that I choose not to watch their reaction to Vegeta vs Thor. Because I wholeheartedly expect it to be at least as bad.
@@psb123x Same but they were surprisingly chill about that outcome. Wish they were like that with Popeye vs Saitama because boy that reaction was hot garbage
That moment when you say comic book bullshit but dont realize manga is literally just a comic book. Yeah, I'm sure screaming to overpower time is an actual legit and logical explanation. Also, literally the same version of Thor from the main 616 continuity. MCU Thor is played down so he doesn't immediately solve everything. Same with Hulk. There's no stacking. If anything, Thor is downplayed.
6:20 Because he still can and that’s still a thing. The only reason It wasn’t a factor for Hulk VS Doomsday was because The Immortal Hulk story Line didn’t happen till 2018. Witch was way after the episode. It’s called, There’s a time gap between those 2 things
@@danielwilson8604 More like It would he a stale mate at this point. Neither of them can kill the other anymore. And both would just evolve to get even stronger at the fight goes on
@@Anime_Stand_5 he's killed immortals before, even spirits. and while they both grow, hulk has to start over every time while doomsday just keeps getting stronger, even to the point of stealing powers.
@@danielwilson8604 Well yes. But at the same time. By Death Battle rules (Rule number 3) Characters are factord at there maximum potential and final form. Even If the opponent could kill or blitz them before they go finale form. The character would automatically be factord at there true power. So Hulk would be In his Immortal form When the fight starts. And yes Doomsday has killed Gods. A lot of that just comes from: He’s lost to them So Many times In the past that after going after them so many times. They ran out of ways to kill Doomsday and that’s why they lost. He only beat Darkside because he’s lost to Darkside so many times and just evolved after every fight, That Darkside Rannout of ways to kill him. And It was just a stale mate till Doomsday won. And Hulk Is actually more then just brought force, Believe It out or not (and I S**t out not) The Hulk actually does have Hacks. But for obvious reasons. We’re not counting Devil Hulk because that’s basically just The One Below All, possessing Hulks body and using his powers though him (This part of Tye Immortal Hulk story line was F***ING Wild)
Look, We can go at this for a while because these 2 have done some absolutely absurd stuff In the past (Hulks even a Marvel Sky Father Now) But This conversation Isn’t the point I was trying to prove. The point I was trying to make Is that Hulk does actually beat Broly now. Witch everyone should be aware of at this point. And (from what I’m able to tell) Doomsday loses to 682 witch makes me happy
“Add on comic book bullshit” you mean use feats from the source material? Seems ridiculous to complain about that since they do that with all characters. Db doesn’t have one timeline and comics do have one canon. Anything else is usually a different universe. The character is owned by a company of editors and writers. It’s not a different version of thor with each writer, it’s all one thor. That’s how comics work, it’s not the exact same as manga. Bitch all you want but they’re giving thor his canon feats that he’s done. Deal with it.
13:24 Because they already listed the exact numbers for those feats 3 Times In the past for past episodes. So you should really know What the numbers are because you do. You know how powerful he Is because that’s literally the highest he can scale to In terms of Dragon Ball Feats.
Im a huge DB fan, but if you thought for a second that Vegeta had a chance in hell here, im sorry. Lol. They even nerfed thor. They didnt give him the odinforce. Comics Thor is literally insane compared to Vegeta. A better match up would be like.... superman.
And I don't think that they would do a Thor vs Superman battle, because besides Wonder Woman, Shazam, and Orion are the Superman-style characters of DC with more similarities to Thor than Superman.
Honestly, the Dragon Ball universe has alot of bullshit when it comes to power levels and feats, but what most don't understand is that as a fictional world it's nowhere near being the strongest In anime? Sure Dragon Ball is easily the strongest world but in all fiction it's not even close It's very easy to see why this battle was even brought onto to the table, to showcase that the Dragon Ball universe isn't really as strong as most hype it up to be and that other fictional worlds like Marvel and DC are no pushovers whatsoever and shouldn't be underestimated no matter what
Even though Thor won You can't deny Vegeta Was the Highlight of the fight, Lani (Vegeta's voice actor from DBZ Abridged) was God Dang Amazing, That Final Flash Still Gets me. Plus the music was good and even paused for the fake out leading to the Sick hand drawn Thor after tanking the Final Flash, and of course the Kill is Still so Good. All in all even though Vegeta lost, this is still to date my favorite Death Battle of the season
I have to say that this might be the best death fake out. It might be because the music went quite and right when Thor’s hand grasped Vegeta mouth, the music kicked in again. If someone would like to bring up a better fake out I’m all ears.
6:22 And the Death Battle researchers have confirmed that they got the outcome wrong for that episode and Wanked Broly WAY TO HIGH, And had him higher then he had any right to be. And That Hulk does actually win because he’s literally a Marvel Sky Father Now. And His “One Night” With Umar Is now actually Multi Versal Plus because, Acroding go the Silver Surfer: It was. Messing with the concept and fabric of Eternity and destroying time and space. (And this was Multi Eternity too so the context makes It way funnier) And that If they went on for long enough/to long then they would have destroyed The Entire Infinite Marvel Multi Verse just by having Sex.
"The Death Battle Researchers have confirmed that they got the outcome wrong for Hulk vs. Broly." Out of curiosity, where did they say this? I assume an episode of Death Battle Cast.
@@psb123x Kind Of. One of The Death Battle researchers confirmed this On there Twitter Account. And I believe they’ve mentioned this on Death Battle Cast as well
Sorry, but you can't assume every comic character thrown into DB is a composite. If this is all because of the Kuro video on Ben 10 vs Green Lantern, that guy barely did any research on GL himself. Comic characters just have a longer canon history and more impressive feats to pull from most of the time.
Yeah, I don't think Dragon Ball is all "one" canon. Dragon Ball GT, anyone? Also, I heard that the Dragon Ball Super anime has plenty of differences from the Dragon Ball Super manga. And you have to remember that one reason Broly won is that he's MUCH stronger than base Gogeta and tanked hits from Gogeta Blue, the fusion of Goku and Vegeta who's MANY times more powerful than the sum of his parts? By the way, Stormbreaker is actually the name of Beta Ray Bill's hammer in the comics, while Thor's axe is called Jarnbjorn. Speaking of Thor, can you guys do the new trailer for Thor: Love and Thunder.
Broly is weaker than Gogeta Blue. What Death Battle said was that since Broly survived hits from Gogeta Blue that means Hulk would never land a hit strong enough to kill Broly. Also current Manga Vegeta is stronger than the Gogeta from the Broly movie.
“Unless they add on comic book bullshit” Ah yes because scaling a character to its source material is bullshit… except for when it’s the character you want to win then it’s cool. Did I get that take right? Look man I’m an anime fan to, Vegita is awesome but getting that upset because he lost is ridiculous Thors just plain stronger that’s it the same way he’s been bested by other opponents before and that wasn’t any more “bullshit” than this. All characters have feats and refusing to acknowledge them would be actual bullshit.
Wait u guys think Death battle themselves are the ones that make this shit up. everything they said ab thor is comic based, which everyone knows comic writers go insane with heros powers. But thor is him in the comics, hence why he is who he is in the MCU bc he's too powerful same things with hulk and tbh all the MCU characters. all nerfed
To be honest, I haven't been really into Death Battle recently. It's OK but nothing they've shown has gotten me as excited since Dio-sama went up against Alucard as they tend to repeat a lot their past mistakes. Maybe when they do something out of the box, I'll come back to it. P.S. sorry I couldn't make it to your stream, Josh. Considering that it was 1am in the morning when you went online. I'll try my best to catch your next one.
I get that the character you want to win loses sucks, but you were just calling anything Thor did “comic book bullshit” anime overall is just weaker than the majority of comic book characters as a whole.
Vegeta would absolutely be worthy lol, there's been 4 major versions of the worthiness enchantment and none of them have anything to do with moral goodness or purity. You either have to believe that you are worthy without a single shred of doubt in your heart, have the qualities of a good warrior king, be the kind of person Odin would approve of, or have the God Tempest inside Mjolnir take a liking to you. Vegeta can fit all of those. also holy shit it can't be good for your health to be so insanely salty. Vegeta was heavily highballed in this fight, and yet nothing they said about the result was wrong, not a single one of your criticisms make sense. Dragon Ball has several canons, and they used 2 of them for Vegeta, whereas they only used 1 Marvel canon for Thor, for example. If you're a Dragon Ball fan and you're still pissed off at Death Battle, then you haven't been paying attention at all. They didn't lose a single match between season 2 and Goku Black vs Reverse Flash last year, that's the longest winstreak in the entire show. I wonder if we'll ever see the day where a video with debunk in the title is even slightly correct
Your aware that people like Vegeta haven’t been able to lift Mijnor. Even with the hole pure of heart Sayin thing. Unless your trying to argue/talking about the characters that aren’t worthy Of Mijnor but have been able to lift It by sheer Power, extra dimensional bi biassing, Or just hacks. This list Includes but Is not limited to - Red Hulk - Thanos - Loki - Hella - Dormamo - Mephisto - Dead Pool - Squirl Girl - etc. So you could argue that Vegeta having the power to destroy the universe thousands of times over would be enough to by pass the Rule and lift Mijnor like other characters have done. But If you try to agree him doing It by being worthy. There have been characters exactly like Vegeta but even more noble, That haven’t been able to Lift Mijnor. And the people that we have seen Lift It by being worthy. That’s been inconsistent and occasionally Ret Coned depending on the situation and who’s writing the characters half the time. The characters that have lifted It by being worthy are - Iron Man - Caption America - Black Widdow - Halk Eye - Hulk - Beta Ray Bill - Jane Foster Thor - Thog (Frog Thor) - Odin - Super Man - Etc Half of these characters have been ret conned to No longer be able to lift Mijnor when the time calls for It. And there have been characters who were/are willing do sacrifice everything and risk there lives for the sake of others and to protect the universe. And even they weren’t Worthy. So Vegetas definitely up In the air when you take everything Into consideration. So no, He wouldn’t “absolutely” be worthy. You have to remember that this Is the same guy that killed kids and destroyed a entire planet willingly just for fun with a Smile of his face
SpongeGod-Omnipants Yeah Mjolnir (realistically the writers) is rather questionable or strict with its enchantment. Because you brought up Superman, I’m assuming you’re referring to the crossover event that happened a long time ago, and he was able to wield Mjolnir in that story. But shortly after he wasn’t. Some people really wonder what worthiness means if Thor can wield it, but said person can’t. And I just say “The writers are just writing, they might be writing as they go along”. However there are times in fiction that I’ll give writers the benefit of the doubt.
Actually you do require qualities such as moral goodness and purity in most versions of worthiness. Becoming worthy by not having a shred of doubt you're worthy was a retcon and also contradicts most of the lore in the comics because there have been several characters who think they'd definitely lift the hammer but couldn't. Being the person Odin would approve of would not make you worthy. Odin would simply lift the enchantment or make an exception for you to lift the hammer. So you're not really worthy it's just that Odin made an exception. The God Tempest inside Mjolnir liking you and allowing you to lift the hammer is also a retcon and even this only works if Odin's power is decreased and if Tempest now has more control over the hammer.
One thing I will say (I do like this fight no matter what I say) in the manga Vegeta fought someone who could out speed Goku's instant transmission, which death battle themselves say is instant and plank time isn't, and Vegeta went toe to toe with this guy making Vegeta faster then instant even with that Thor would win but no way he was faster
While the act of Instant Transmission is instant, priming it still takes a visible amount of time. Granolah is only faster in the visible act of priming, not the TP itself. It doesn't scale to his movement and combat speed. Also, Odinforce thor would be faster still.
As everyone should know by now because they’ve mentioned this count of times on Death Battle Cast. The animation Is not a representation of the research. And simply meant for Entertainment
Thor wouldn't fight vegeta with 100% capacity immediately, it's not in his character. Vegeta wasn't doing too much to thor as far as actual damage so understandably, thor was not too reactive - until vegeta crossed a threshold and showed himself to be a actual threat, also attacking thors pride by questioning his bravery. The fight felt lore accurate. Stronger entities will let themselves be hit by weaker people sometimes.
Dont know why every single time its a Marvel character vs an anime character, reactors always brings up how "tHeY'Re mIxInG tHe cAnNon" when in this episode, Death Battle clearly, and uncharacteristically, made effort to only use one canon for Thor. I can name every single issue for the feats they brought up and show its in the main canon. While they did mix the anime and manga canons for Vegeta but no one ever mentions it. curious.
What makes this fight even funnier? They actually handicapped Thor in this fight so Vegeta can put up a fight. They didn't add that Thor had access to the Odinforce which makes him even stronger & would have ended the fight a lot sooner. Vegeta had no shot in this fight Lol.
They nerfed base Thor.. Had they given Thor the Odinforce, he would have one-shot the DB universe and all that it is.
...It makes me sad to say this as a dragon ball fan but your right
Actually, he does have the Odinforce. King Thor however doesn't need to rely on Odin's magic because he's far more powerful.
To be fair with the multiplier they gave Thor and vegeta vegeta should have won against their version of Thor they really compared the transformation that rivals ultra instinct a 20x but if you take the spirit bomb amp vegeta should have bin 3200x stronger then his blue evolved version the other versions of Thor would just clap his shit but the version death battle picked should have lost because going by their own math vegeta should have an advantage in raw power (against their version of Thor any other version would kill him)
@@marvik7437 where are you getting 3200x stronger then blue evolved?
What's funny is these are all 616 Thor's feats. So they aren't really combining universes that much if at all in this fight. Hell, they nerfed Thor in this since they didn't give him the Odin force. Vegeta would have been destroyed way easier if they gave him that.
Even without the Odinforce, they lowballed Thor to all hell. Thor should have been FAR stronger than they made him out to be. Even in base form.
I mean technically if we’re mixing universes we could do rune king with the power cosmic Phoenix force Odin force with all black the necro sword
@@logandelaharpe6362 my point is they didn't merge universes. They used only the feats of main 616 Thor. And only a hand full at that.
I know but now I am trying to think of someone that could fight comp thor
@@logandelaharpe6362 Composite Hulk, composite Sentry, composite Thanos, composite Jean Grey, composite Scarlet Witch, composite Doctor Strange, composite Superman, composite Wonder Woman, composite Flash, composite Green Lantern, composite Doctor Fate, some Digimons and Transformers as far as i know, several Umineko characters, Xenoverse Goku, and so on, many of them could even defeat composite Thor.
6:12 Stacking Thor? They fucking lowballed him since they never gave him the Odinforce, which is now fully his.
Why do people say they lowballed him by not giving him the Odinforce. Like, they lowballed Base Thor....
@@HeadGodoftheGodCouncil Because they did. That's like asking: why are people saying that the sky is blue?
@@marmyeater Not giving him the Odinforce isn't nerfing him, since Odinforce isn't standard. It would be like saying they nerfed Doom by not having it be God Emperor Doom fighting Lex.
@@HeadGodoftheGodCouncil it is standard
@@youngmelo4963 No, it isn't standard to Thor. Standard for Thor is Thor without the OF.
That's what standard means. His default isn't him having the Odin Force.
6:12 No the hell there not. They literally low balled the S**t out of him for the episode and only mentioned a small portion of him Abilities, Powers, And Hacks. It’s literally the same version of Thor that has access to all of these abilities. It’s all Standard. And he literally Destroys Vegeta because It’s not even close
They even left out the Odin force
@@logandelaharpe6362 Exactly. Because If they gave him The Odin/Thor Force. Then he Stomps even harder and the debate that never existed, Somehow becomes even less.
If they have him The Odin Force then Vegeta Is BEYOND F***ED, And Thor Is now one of the most powerful characters Death Battles ever used as of now.
Let alone Rune King Thor
@@Anime_Stand_5 Sun Wukong: Am I a joke to you?
@@Starwarsfan1253 (I know your joking but)
This comment was before that obviously
6:08 No there not. That was literally all done by the same one version of Thor that there sticking with. Death Battle only used one version of Thor for this episode. And also, What they just listed was literally a small portion of what he could actually do. And they Really Nurfed him too because they didn’t even give him The Odin Force because then he Stomps even harder
They also placed Yggdrasil on 10 realms when it's literally stated to have an infinite amount of realms..
@@HeadGodoftheGodCouncil Exactly. It doesn’t just hold one version of Asgard. It holds every version of Asgard across all Infinite Time Lines, Dimensions, Reality’s, alternate universes, Etc.
So you do know that Dragon Ball has several different cannons right? The Games, the Anime, the manga, Dragon Ball GT, and Dragon Ball Hero's are all different continuities, so your argument against Thor is pretty invalid, not to mention they only used 616 Thor and downplayed him as well.
I find it interesting that you talk about Dragon Ball having one canon, even though it technically has two as the anime and the manga contradict one another on several occasions!
Like how Gohan can match Kefla in the manga but not so in the anime? Yeah. A lot of anime only watchers don’t grasp the Dragon Ball Super stuff. I feel like it’s partially on the fault of whoever decided it was a good idea to just create outlines of the plot, but no firm guidance, thus they can take creative writing liberties.
@@theomnigamer9177 It's also really interesting that
Dragon Ball Manga (including Z arc) > Dragon Ball/Dragon Ball Z anime
Dragon Ball Super Anime > Dragon Ball Super Manga
Super anime trumps the manga while Z and older manga trumps anime
@@HeadGodoftheGodCouncil they also forget xenoverse and GT exist as another timeline after the canon z. if anything gt is just as canon as super.
Fun fact! Only certain events in Super are canon. So Goku beating Hit is canon but not the way it happens in the anime/manga isn’t canon.
@@mel-el5862 Yup. Also, for Super, if something in the Manga/Anime contradict each other, the anime is the canon source, while Manga isn't.
Opposite for Dragon Ball/Dragon Ball Z anime and manga.
Heroes is it's own thing, same with Xenoverse.
Never watched GT though so can't really say about that.
Keeping it canon by having the Final Flash not defeating Vegeta’s opponent. Vegeta should really just learn to stop using that move all together, that way he will get more wins.
that point they made about galsctus was enough to decimate every dragonball fanboy lmao. galactus shit stomps the verse
Not to mention even the weakest base galactus beat Hyperstorm who one with the Hypersapce which is beyond Infinite dimensions and a weak galactus beat him like he was an ant. Even weak base galactus is like 1-A beyond anything Dragon ball has to offer not even the entire franchise.
Believe or not this is just Nerfed Base Earth 616 Thor with no compositing and no Thor-Force.
Crazy Vegeta never stood a chance
Y'all know they tried to give Vegeta this win but they couldn't find anything to help him with Ultra Ego
They really tried to give Vegeta the win? Where they mention that?
@@HeadGodoftheGodCouncil They didn't use Thor's strongest canon form.
Once again dragon ball (anime) fans whining about their guy losing. Can't take a point that your characters aren't the true bad asses they think theyare. I've had my picks lose but don't throw a tantrum about it. I don't think I've seen more fans of a group of characters whine, piss and moan more than dragon ball fans!
Marvel comics have one sequence of canon, when a book is about a different universe, they made it _very_ clear. Frog Thor is canon, BTW. It's part of his history, and there's still a frog out there with a tiny piece of the hammer, he's part of the Pet Avengers.
It felt like you were over salty here, made it a degree of uncomfortable to watch. Had enough reprieve for me to finish, but you wanna check that temper man. Made you seem fairly toxic.
I did finish the video, and I will acknowledge how you got VERY much lighter energy. Perfect recovery.
Though, you're projecting a lot of your own frustration to other people. I'm a anime fan, and I wasn't pissed off because it made sense. When it fits within reason, there's no reason to be upset.
Plus the "some b*tch from Sailor Moon" comment. Yeah definitely uncomfortable
I won't lie. I kind of thought he was getting a little too salty myself. But I've seen worse. Renegades React: Saitama vs Popeye anyone?
@@psb123x Yeah, that reaction was absolute ass.
@@marmyeater Indeed it was. In fact it was so bad that I choose not to watch their reaction to Vegeta vs Thor. Because I wholeheartedly expect it to be at least as bad.
@@psb123x Same but they were surprisingly chill about that outcome. Wish they were like that with Popeye vs Saitama because boy that reaction was hot garbage
That moment when you say comic book bullshit but dont realize manga is literally just a comic book. Yeah, I'm sure screaming to overpower time is an actual legit and logical explanation. Also, literally the same version of Thor from the main 616 continuity. MCU Thor is played down so he doesn't immediately solve everything. Same with Hulk. There's no stacking. If anything, Thor is downplayed.
6:20 Because he still can and that’s still a thing. The only reason It wasn’t a factor for Hulk VS Doomsday was because The Immortal Hulk story Line didn’t happen till 2018. Witch was way after the episode. It’s called, There’s a time gap between those 2 things
doomsday would probably still win too....
@@danielwilson8604 More like It would he a stale mate at this point. Neither of them can kill the other anymore. And both would just evolve to get even stronger at the fight goes on
@@Anime_Stand_5 he's killed immortals before, even spirits. and while they both grow, hulk has to start over every time while doomsday just keeps getting stronger, even to the point of stealing powers.
@@danielwilson8604 Well yes. But at the same time. By Death Battle rules (Rule number 3) Characters are factord at there maximum potential and final form. Even If the opponent could kill or blitz them before they go finale form. The character would automatically be factord at there true power. So Hulk would be In his Immortal form When the fight starts. And yes Doomsday has killed Gods. A lot of that just comes from: He’s lost to them So Many times In the past that after going after them so many times. They ran out of ways to kill Doomsday and that’s why they lost. He only beat Darkside because he’s lost to Darkside so many times and just evolved after every fight, That Darkside Rannout of ways to kill him. And It was just a stale mate till Doomsday won. And Hulk Is actually more then just brought force, Believe It out or not (and I S**t out not) The Hulk actually does have Hacks.
But for obvious reasons. We’re not counting Devil Hulk because that’s basically just The One Below All, possessing Hulks body and using his powers though him (This part of Tye Immortal Hulk story line was F***ING Wild)
Look, We can go at this for a while because these 2 have done some absolutely absurd stuff In the past (Hulks even a Marvel Sky Father Now)
But This conversation Isn’t the point I was trying to prove. The point I was trying to make Is that Hulk does actually beat Broly now. Witch everyone should be aware of at this point.
And (from what I’m able to tell) Doomsday loses to 682 witch makes me happy
Stormbreaker and Jarnbjorn are two different weapons
I can’t believe they downplayed thor 😔
But at least he got that sweet victory.
@@Starwarsfan1253 True
They didn't.
@@animegx45 they never gave him odinforce but gave vegeta ultra ego
@@andrewalvarez3983 Did you even watch/read the analysis?
“Add on comic book bullshit” you mean use feats from the source material? Seems ridiculous to complain about that since they do that with all characters. Db doesn’t have one timeline and comics do have one canon. Anything else is usually a different universe. The character is owned by a company of editors and writers. It’s not a different version of thor with each writer, it’s all one thor. That’s how comics work, it’s not the exact same as manga. Bitch all you want but they’re giving thor his canon feats that he’s done. Deal with it.
13:24 Because they already listed the exact numbers for those feats 3 Times In the past for past episodes. So you should really know What the numbers are because you do. You know how powerful he Is because that’s literally the highest he can scale to In terms of Dragon Ball Feats.
Remember how Dragon Ball had a 6 year win streak?
Never change, DBZ fanboys. Never change.
23:45 thousands actually.
What do you think millennia actually means?
Im a huge DB fan, but if you thought for a second that Vegeta had a chance in hell here, im sorry. Lol.
They even nerfed thor. They didnt give him the odinforce. Comics Thor is literally insane compared to Vegeta. A better match up would be like.... superman.
How the heck is Superman a better match-up?
@@marvinkant5205 against thor??? Because theyre more on the same level than thor and vegeta are.
@@l33_generic37 I thought you meant against Vegeta.
And I don't think that they would do a Thor vs Superman battle, because besides Wonder Woman, Shazam, and Orion are the Superman-style characters of DC with more similarities to Thor than Superman.
@@marvinkant5205 oh i wasnt saying that they SHOULD, just that it would be a fairer fight than this was. Lol
Honestly, the Dragon Ball universe has alot of bullshit when it comes to power levels and feats, but what most don't understand is that as a fictional world it's nowhere near being the strongest
In anime? Sure Dragon Ball is easily the strongest world but in all fiction it's not even close
It's very easy to see why this battle was even brought onto to the table, to showcase that the Dragon Ball universe isn't really as strong as most hype it up to be and that other fictional worlds like Marvel and DC are no pushovers whatsoever and shouldn't be underestimated no matter what
Even though Thor won You can't deny Vegeta Was the Highlight of the fight, Lani (Vegeta's voice actor from DBZ Abridged) was God Dang Amazing, That Final Flash Still Gets me. Plus the music was good and even paused for the fake out leading to the Sick hand drawn Thor after tanking the Final Flash, and of course the Kill is Still so Good. All in all even though Vegeta lost, this is still to date my favorite Death Battle of the season
The writing and voice acting was good on both parts.
I have to say that this might be the best death fake out. It might be because the music went quite and right when Thor’s hand grasped Vegeta mouth, the music kicked in again. If someone would like to bring up a better fake out I’m all ears.
Jonah Scott is also great as Thor.
@@Silent_Fool he has definitely improved as Thor since his last performance in Thor vs Wonder Woman
6:22 And the Death Battle researchers have confirmed that they got the outcome wrong for that episode and Wanked Broly WAY TO HIGH, And had him higher then he had any right to be. And That Hulk does actually win because he’s literally a Marvel Sky Father Now. And His “One Night” With Umar Is now actually Multi Versal Plus because, Acroding go the Silver Surfer: It was. Messing with the concept and fabric of Eternity and destroying time and space. (And this was Multi Eternity too so the context makes It way funnier) And that If they went on for long enough/to long then they would have destroyed The Entire Infinite Marvel Multi Verse just by having Sex.
"The Death Battle Researchers have confirmed that they got the outcome wrong for Hulk vs. Broly."
Out of curiosity, where did they say this? I assume an episode of Death Battle Cast.
@@psb123x Kind Of. One of The Death Battle researchers confirmed this On there Twitter Account. And I believe they’ve mentioned this on Death Battle Cast as well
@@Anime_Stand_5 Sauce?
@@marmyeater You know very well I meant Source
@@Anime_Stand_5 Proof or it didn’t happen
Sorry, but you can't assume every comic character thrown into DB is a composite. If this is all because of the Kuro video on Ben 10 vs Green Lantern, that guy barely did any research on GL himself. Comic characters just have a longer canon history and more impressive feats to pull from most of the time.
Yeah, I don't think Dragon Ball is all "one" canon. Dragon Ball GT, anyone? Also, I heard that the Dragon Ball Super anime has plenty of differences from the Dragon Ball Super manga. And you have to remember that one reason Broly won is that he's MUCH stronger than base Gogeta and tanked hits from Gogeta Blue, the fusion of Goku and Vegeta who's MANY times more powerful than the sum of his parts?
By the way, Stormbreaker is actually the name of Beta Ray Bill's hammer in the comics, while Thor's axe is called Jarnbjorn. Speaking of Thor, can you guys do the new trailer for Thor: Love and Thunder.
Broly is weaker than Gogeta Blue. What Death Battle said was that since Broly survived hits from Gogeta Blue that means Hulk would never land a hit strong enough to kill Broly. Also current Manga Vegeta is stronger than the Gogeta from the Broly movie.
@@groverrover6856 Right. I was thinking of BASE Gogeta. not Goteta Blue.
@@DinoCam1795 Oh ok
(16:48) You're not ruining my fun. I love this kind delicious salt.🧂😋
The Red Hood fakeout still pisses me off to this day
They downplayed thor crazy how sad
He at least still won. If he was given everything this fight would be even quicker
I don’t think it’s sad at all. Better they downplay than make Vegeta get washed harder.
Yes here we goooooooo
MCU & DCEU ARE VERY DIFFERENT FROM THE COMIC THE MOVIE ARE JUST THERE WEAK VERSION OF THEM SELF
Sol Badguy has some ridiculous plot armour. His adversary killed his past self therefore should’ve erased his existence but it didn’t work
The god blast would one shot everyone in dragon ball
“Unless they add on comic book bullshit”
Ah yes because scaling a character to its source material is bullshit… except for when it’s the character you want to win then it’s cool. Did I get that take right?
Look man I’m an anime fan to, Vegita is awesome but getting that upset because he lost is ridiculous Thors just plain stronger that’s it the same way he’s been bested by other opponents before and that wasn’t any more “bullshit” than this. All characters have feats and refusing to acknowledge them would be actual bullshit.
Wait u guys think Death battle themselves are the ones that make this shit up. everything they said ab thor is comic based, which everyone knows comic writers go insane with heros powers. But thor is him in the comics, hence why he is who he is in the MCU bc he's too powerful same things with hulk and tbh all the MCU characters. all nerfed
23:54- Anime fan here: You are wrong.
Edit: 25:06- ua-cam.com/video/0cgbZqR2AGI/v-deo.html
Even from just the shows Homelander is FAR inferior.
24:00 and Ben 10 fans
27:30- Yeah, in the comics Nolan just curb stomped them.
They piss off anime fans or just you because you cant take an l?
To be honest, I haven't been really into Death Battle recently. It's OK but nothing they've shown has gotten me as excited since Dio-sama went up against Alucard as they tend to repeat a lot their past mistakes. Maybe when they do something out of the box, I'll come back to it.
P.S. sorry I couldn't make it to your stream, Josh. Considering that it was 1am in the morning when you went online. I'll try my best to catch your next one.
Guess You Guys Skip Tanjiro VS Jonathan Joestar (Demon Slayer VS JoJo's Bizarre Adventure) Video
25:04 Oh not even close. Goku VS Super Man and DIO VS Alucard are already on The Phone for you.
And of course, Naruto VS Ichigo
Jarnbjorn is Old Norse for "iron bear" in case you're curious
Did you guys react to Tanjiro vs Jonathan Joestar?
in the comics it's just a slaughter with Omni man and the Guardians. And the Boys Comics is so different from the Tv show.
Jace, what was that face you made at the start of the recording?
I get that the character you want to win loses sucks, but you were just calling anything Thor did “comic book bullshit” anime overall is just weaker than the majority of comic book characters as a whole.
Tfs Vegeta reference: in mere moments all you feel is oblivion
Vegeta’s va I’m this is lani who played vegeta in the abridged series of dbz on UA-cam, honestly a fantastic va
Salty weeb is salty.
Vegeta would absolutely be worthy lol, there's been 4 major versions of the worthiness enchantment and none of them have anything to do with moral goodness or purity. You either have to believe that you are worthy without a single shred of doubt in your heart, have the qualities of a good warrior king, be the kind of person Odin would approve of, or have the God Tempest inside Mjolnir take a liking to you. Vegeta can fit all of those.
also holy shit it can't be good for your health to be so insanely salty. Vegeta was heavily highballed in this fight, and yet nothing they said about the result was wrong, not a single one of your criticisms make sense. Dragon Ball has several canons, and they used 2 of them for Vegeta, whereas they only used 1 Marvel canon for Thor, for example.
If you're a Dragon Ball fan and you're still pissed off at Death Battle, then you haven't been paying attention at all. They didn't lose a single match between season 2 and Goku Black vs Reverse Flash last year, that's the longest winstreak in the entire show.
I wonder if we'll ever see the day where a video with debunk in the title is even slightly correct
Your aware that people like Vegeta haven’t been able to lift Mijnor. Even with the hole pure of heart Sayin thing. Unless your trying to argue/talking about the characters that aren’t worthy Of Mijnor but have been able to lift It by sheer Power, extra dimensional bi biassing, Or just hacks. This list Includes but Is not limited to
- Red Hulk
- Thanos
- Loki
- Hella
- Dormamo
- Mephisto
- Dead Pool
- Squirl Girl
- etc.
So you could argue that Vegeta having the power to destroy the universe thousands of times over would be enough to by pass the Rule and lift Mijnor like other characters have done.
But If you try to agree him doing It by being worthy. There have been characters exactly like Vegeta but even more noble, That haven’t been able to Lift Mijnor. And the people that we have seen Lift It by being worthy. That’s been inconsistent and occasionally Ret Coned depending on the situation and who’s writing the characters half the time. The characters that have lifted It by being worthy are
- Iron Man
- Caption America
- Black Widdow
- Halk Eye
- Hulk
- Beta Ray Bill
- Jane Foster Thor
- Thog (Frog Thor)
- Odin
- Super Man
- Etc
Half of these characters have been ret conned to No longer be able to lift Mijnor when the time calls for It.
And there have been characters who were/are willing do sacrifice everything and risk there lives for the sake of others and to protect the universe. And even they weren’t Worthy.
So Vegetas definitely up In the air when you take everything Into consideration.
So no, He wouldn’t “absolutely” be worthy. You have to remember that this Is the same guy that killed kids and destroyed a entire planet willingly just for fun with a Smile of his face
SpongeGod-Omnipants Yeah Mjolnir (realistically the writers) is rather questionable or strict with its enchantment. Because you brought up Superman, I’m assuming you’re referring to the crossover event that happened a long time ago, and he was able to wield Mjolnir in that story. But shortly after he wasn’t. Some people really wonder what worthiness means if Thor can wield it, but said person can’t. And I just say “The writers are just writing, they might be writing as they go along”. However there are times in fiction that I’ll give writers the benefit of the doubt.
@@theomnigamer9177 Yes. It’s Inconsistent depending on who’s writing at the time
Actually you do require qualities such as moral goodness and purity in most versions of worthiness. Becoming worthy by not having a shred of doubt you're worthy was a retcon and also contradicts most of the lore in the comics because there have been several characters who think they'd definitely lift the hammer but couldn't.
Being the person Odin would approve of would not make you worthy. Odin would simply lift the enchantment or make an exception for you to lift the hammer. So you're not really worthy it's just that Odin made an exception.
The God Tempest inside Mjolnir liking you and allowing you to lift the hammer is also a retcon and even this only works if Odin's power is decreased and if Tempest now has more control over the hammer.
What they got wrong about Ultra Ego for every attack delt to Vegeta the stronger he gets
Wow, I see how it is. My name is Ben too.
When are you guys going to react to tanjiro vs jonathan joestar?
I agree, Thor hammer not that good, now seems better than odins spear, mmm not likely.
What about Tanjiro vs Jonathan Joestar?
How is any of this pissing off anime fans vegeta just doesnt win
One thing I will say (I do like this fight no matter what I say) in the manga Vegeta fought someone who could out speed Goku's instant transmission, which death battle themselves say is instant and plank time isn't, and Vegeta went toe to toe with this guy making Vegeta faster then instant even with that Thor would win but no way he was faster
While the act of Instant Transmission is instant, priming it still takes a visible amount of time. Granolah is only faster in the visible act of priming, not the TP itself. It doesn't scale to his movement and combat speed. Also, Odinforce thor would be faster still.
Wheres jojo vs tanjiro
Thor is epic
Wiz: Their power was close to even, but Thor was far, far faster.
The fight: "Vegeta lands 5-10x more hits and dodges most of Thor's shit"
As everyone should know by now because they’ve mentioned this count of times on Death Battle Cast. The animation Is not a representation of the research. And simply meant for Entertainment
Thor wouldn't fight vegeta with 100% capacity immediately, it's not in his character. Vegeta wasn't doing too much to thor as far as actual damage so understandably, thor was not too reactive - until vegeta crossed a threshold and showed himself to be a actual threat, also attacking thors pride by questioning his bravery.
The fight felt lore accurate. Stronger entities will let themselves be hit by weaker people sometimes.
@@Anime_Stand_5 Buddy, it was a joke.
@@twocents3050 You say that Like It’s a problem with Thor. As If Vegetas not gonna start the fight off In a even wearer state. AI, His Base Form
@@animegx45 I know. I felt
Appliance to bring it up anyway
Thor ⚡🔨 ❤❤❤
Lmfaooo
Ohh Yeah Josh Death Battle does this type of BS a lot of times especially pissing off Anime fans
You mean give accurate results? 😂
Collecting evidence...such bullshit...good god.🙄
Cope harder lol
Dont know why every single time its a Marvel character vs an anime character, reactors always brings up how "tHeY'Re mIxInG tHe cAnNon" when in this episode, Death Battle clearly, and uncharacteristically, made effort to only use one canon for Thor.
I can name every single issue for the feats they brought up and show its in the main canon.
While they did mix the anime and manga canons for Vegeta but no one ever mentions it.
curious.