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Do you know any app that works like airtable but allows to view the data vertically instead of horizontally. My only problem with airtable is that when you end up with a large number of fields you waste a lot of time finding the relevant ones. Example would be the sell prices, different types of costs with quantities and qualitative data and the total costs, profits, and logistical information necessary to calculate the costs and profits (for example cases per pallet, cases per truck, units per case, and you have Uk and Eu pallets, differnt types of loads - truck, 40ft container, 20ft container and that’s just a tip of the iceberg). You would suggest to create different views but I already have so many that I’m actually trying to cut them down. May be airtable is not best tool for such stuff, but excel although a lot more flexible is very prone to errors and not great for storing large data especially when you want to add images to entries and other attachments. If you are aware of such tool, would appreciate if you could tell me. But my dream would be if airtable allow for vertical views (not the gallery type where you can’t update multiple entries quick enough)
This video popped up on my LinkedIn this morning. I’ve been building with Knack since 2016 and been a Partner since 2018.One of Knacks unique selling points is its per record, rather than per user pricing. 🚀Great video walkthrough, thanks for sharing your experience with Knack 🙏
Hi! Back in the day through Paul’s group, you folks convinced me to start my UA-cam channel. Knack is great and my practice is mostly about that. Thanks for calling it out … Knack is incredibly powerful.
I agree that I'd like more data from Airtable, but I think the issue here is a business model problem (charging by user instead of charging for data used). Knack is a pretty cool alternative and I feel like they solved the right problem with their business model 💪
Question re the pricing - for Knack - is that 50k records in TOTAL or PER BASE? The airtable price is per base. 50k records is very limiting if that is supposed cover all bases in the workspace.
Hey, Thanks for this review... It's an eye-opener for me especially when it comes to pricing. I think Knack is the best. Yes, it may not have all the flexibility that Airtable has but it makes financial sense to try them out. Have you, in any of your videos compared Airtable with Quixy?
Heard Airtable was deprecating it's api, requiring use of OA security instead. Knack still uses api. Does Knack actually store the image and file attachments?
Right on about Airtable‘s pricing and business model. Ridiculous that we need all of these workaround apps to deal with their sorry ass pricing, especially now that we have interfaces working.
Im sorry, maybe im not fully understanding... i have a nocode app. I use airtable to store my data Airtable is charging me for the users accessing that data?? Also does airtable even allow user authentication?
Airtable's paid accounts charge for users who you grant access to, although read-only viewing is free. If you want users to interact with, edit, and update data, then they incur a charge to your account because you pay per user
I have grown beyond this particular level but would have found this video very useful a few months ago as a very clear overview that I couldn't then find! We're currently exploring Knack and very pleased with what we've so far achieved. However. I'm also curious about Tadabase which is very similar in appearance to Knack (more so, in contrast to Airtable, etc). Although starting more expensive, Tadabase seems to have many of the features required externally with Knack, such as Zapier/Make integration or PDF production features. I'm trying to find review/comparisons between Knack and Tadabase but all these new generation 'database' systems are still lacking much material other than the sometime frustrating feature comparison lists. Has anyone experience of the two.
@@GarethPronovost They are nearly identical. I read somewhere on a forum many years ago that Tababase was built by ex-knack employees. Knack rejected funding in its initial growth phase, but has since taken on 20M in funding that has seen it shore up its operations and modernize its platform. Support and expert network has gown substantially. I stuck with knack as it was more established and fit my workcase better, although Tadabase appears to have a slightly more polished look. Anything knack can't do natively, can be done through javascript or CSS. Recently I've found that using Power Automate also is a good way to navigate around some limitations. I haven't used in Airtable in many years, but I recall it having more limitations to the user interface and how to manipulate data.
I think this depends on the size of the team you're working with. 10 users on an Airtable pro plan cost $240 per month, or $24 each. This same team can switch to Knack and spend half that amount because they won't be charged per user.
Looking at Airtable pricing, their starter is free, and has unlimited bases so that I can fully flesh out a demo of a product. How is this worse than a 14 day trial on Knack when they expect payment after the fact? It should be that a user can build in a sandbox for free, then start paying, not a 14 day trial.
Agreed it would be nicer if you could build in a sandbox for free. The Airtable pricing is quite different from Knack though, as Airtable charges per user and Knack charges per account
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Do you know any app that works like airtable but allows to view the data vertically instead of horizontally. My only problem with airtable is that when you end up with a large number of fields you waste a lot of time finding the relevant ones. Example would be the sell prices, different types of costs with quantities and qualitative data and the total costs, profits, and logistical information necessary to calculate the costs and profits (for example cases per pallet, cases per truck, units per case, and you have Uk and Eu pallets, differnt types of loads - truck, 40ft container, 20ft container and that’s just a tip of the iceberg). You would suggest to create different views but I already have so many that I’m actually trying to cut them down. May be airtable is not best tool for such stuff, but excel although a lot more flexible is very prone to errors and not great for storing large data especially when you want to add images to entries and other attachments.
If you are aware of such tool, would appreciate if you could tell me. But my dream would be if airtable allow for vertical views (not the gallery type where you can’t update multiple entries quick enough)
This could be game changing for me--I'd heard of Knack but hadn't given it a second of thought until this video. Thank Gareth!
Glad this helped and hopeful that it led you to the answers you seek!
This video popped up on my LinkedIn this morning. I’ve been building with Knack since 2016 and been a Partner since 2018.One of Knacks unique selling points is its per record, rather than per user pricing. 🚀Great video walkthrough, thanks for sharing your experience with Knack 🙏
Thanks for watching and glad to hear you've had such a positive experience with Knack over the years! 🤝🤝
Hi! Back in the day through Paul’s group, you folks convinced me to start my UA-cam channel. Knack is great and my practice is mostly about that. Thanks for calling it out … Knack is incredibly powerful.
Excellent, so glad to hear!
Hey I found your channel and watch a bunch of your videos. It's a treasure trove of data. Thanks for starting your channel.
Really hope Airtable kicks in those extra data options soon. Its taking way too long for them to do it and in the meantime there loosing market share.
I agree that I'd like more data from Airtable, but I think the issue here is a business model problem (charging by user instead of charging for data used). Knack is a pretty cool alternative and I feel like they solved the right problem with their business model 💪
Question re the pricing - for Knack - is that 50k records in TOTAL or PER BASE? The airtable price is per base. 50k records is very limiting if that is supposed cover all bases in the workspace.
Hey,
Thanks for this review... It's an eye-opener for me especially when it comes to pricing. I think Knack is the best. Yes, it may not have all the flexibility that Airtable has but it makes financial sense to try them out.
Have you, in any of your videos compared Airtable with Quixy?
I've never used Quixy, but thanks for putting it on my radar!
Heard Airtable was deprecating it's api, requiring use of OA security instead. Knack still uses api. Does Knack actually store the image and file attachments?
I haven't gone deep enough myself to answer that, but I'm sure someone from Knack can help!
Right on about Airtable‘s pricing and business model. Ridiculous that we need all of these workaround apps to deal with their sorry ass pricing, especially now that we have interfaces working.
I remain hopeful that changes will come, but I suspect it's a longshot. In the meantime, Knack is doing it right from the start!
Im sorry, maybe im not fully understanding...
i have a nocode app.
I use airtable to store my data
Airtable is charging me for the users accessing that data??
Also does airtable even allow user authentication?
Airtable's paid accounts charge for users who you grant access to, although read-only viewing is free. If you want users to interact with, edit, and update data, then they incur a charge to your account because you pay per user
I have grown beyond this particular level but would have found this video very useful a few months ago as a very clear overview that I couldn't then find!
We're currently exploring Knack and very pleased with what we've so far achieved.
However. I'm also curious about Tadabase which is very similar in appearance to Knack (more so, in contrast to Airtable, etc).
Although starting more expensive, Tadabase seems to have many of the features required externally with Knack, such as Zapier/Make integration or PDF production features.
I'm trying to find review/comparisons between Knack and Tadabase but all these new generation 'database' systems are still lacking much material other than the sometime frustrating feature comparison lists.
Has anyone experience of the two.
Thanks for the comment. We haven't tried tadabase yet so I couldn't say. Maybe someone else here has an opinion?
@@GarethPronovost They are nearly identical. I read somewhere on a forum many years ago that Tababase was built by ex-knack employees. Knack rejected funding in its initial growth phase, but has since taken on 20M in funding that has seen it shore up its operations and modernize its platform. Support and expert network has gown substantially. I stuck with knack as it was more established and fit my workcase better, although Tadabase appears to have a slightly more polished look. Anything knack can't do natively, can be done through javascript or CSS. Recently I've found that using Power Automate also is a good way to navigate around some limitations. I haven't used in Airtable in many years, but I recall it having more limitations to the user interface and how to manipulate data.
I hope that SmartSuite is watching this and possibly re-thinking their business model. So expensive...great app though
It seems pretty expensive... i guess their pricing model is different, but doesn't seem that inexpensive to start.
I think this depends on the size of the team you're working with. 10 users on an Airtable pro plan cost $240 per month, or $24 each. This same team can switch to Knack and spend half that amount because they won't be charged per user.
@@GarethPronovost I guess small companies aren't their target markets.
For sure not for medium to large businesses that use much more sophisticated and a lot more expensive software
Looking at Airtable pricing, their starter is free, and has unlimited bases so that I can fully flesh out a demo of a product. How is this worse than a 14 day trial on Knack when they expect payment after the fact? It should be that a user can build in a sandbox for free, then start paying, not a 14 day trial.
Agreed it would be nicer if you could build in a sandbox for free. The Airtable pricing is quite different from Knack though, as Airtable charges per user and Knack charges per account