Why the Ottomans Never Colonized America?
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- Опубліковано 22 лип 2020
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Kings and Generals' historical animated documentary series on the history of the Ottoman Empire continues with a video explaining why this dominant naval power never expanded to the American continent during the age of colonization.
Previous episodes in the series on the Ottoman Battles: • Ottoman History covering the battles of Kosovo, Ankara, Varna, Second Kosovo, Constantinople, Belgrade, Targoviste, Otlukbeli, Vaslui, Valea Alba, Skanderbeg's rebellion, Breadfield, Krbava, Otranto, Chaldiran, the Ottoman-Mamluk War of 1516-1517, siege of Rhodes in 1522, the battle of Mohacs of 1526, the siege of Vienna of 1529, the battle of Preveza, the battle of Gorjani, siege of Castelnuovo, sieges of Buda and Eger, the siege of Malta, siege of Szigetvar, Famagusta and Lepanto.
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The video was made by Yağız Bozan and Murat Can Yağbasan, while the script was researched and written by Johan Melhus
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Our Ottoman battle series will make a comeback relatively soon. Turns out quarantine is not helpful, as libraries are not working.
:)
الترجمة العربية
early arab conquest second part needed
I second. Can you make individual episodes from your big Arab Conquest episode?
Keep up the great work guys
They didn't have Turkish Airlines back then.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
what,,, is there something i’m missing or is this the lamest joke ever
@@3alaiyer who hurt u :(
LoL, good one
@@almira4745 His Mommy :,(
America is out of colonial range for the Ottomans to colonize, unless they conquered Morocco (which they never had), in this case only a late game diplomatic tech could help them colonize America
jeffrey1017 I guess you have played Europa Universalis XD
@Plo Koon Err.. what? XD
They never lost the spice trade, at least not when they were still a big power, they just had to share it. But the Aceh Sultanate for example was a big concurrent for portuguese-controlled Malacca and traded almost exclusively with Ottomans ^^
@Plo Koon Fighting over routes is different though. I don't see how the Iberian navies would've prevented the ottomans from landing a large army somewhere in the Americas.
You will have access to most of the African, SE Asian, Australian colonies after annexing the Mamluks. If you would get all the colonization ideas, you may still be fast enough to grab some colonies in South America or even North America. Anyway, there isn't a colony the mighty Ottomans could not get by force.
I see you are a man of culture as well
If Ottoman colonized USA :
New Yozgat
Los Ankara
Mardniami
Las Vangas
Siirteatlle
@Antoine Shelby we are not arab, and we have never used these words BRUHH...
Laz Vegas
@Antoine Shelby lmfao
Antoine Shelby your name would have been Ahmed
Hahahaha as a Turk, I would confirm this would be 100% true.
Outstanding - I am sorry I missed this in July, what a great look into some overlooked history!
The Ottoman Empire suffered the same problem Eastern Romans (or Byzantines) had.
They have enemies in all sides.
well they made those enemies
because they didn't treat well the people of the new lands the ottamans took
if the ottoman hadn't behaved well, now all balkans would be speaking Turkish
@@angryyoungman66 No they treated people from the new lands well. Where did you hear they didn't? They were just to all christian, jews, and muslims of the lands they took. They made enemies cause they were jealous. Don't you know the basics of the Ottoman Empire and how the father of the founder of the Ottoman Empire was one of the best muslim men who fought for Adalete (Justice) He taught the same to his son Osman and Osman to his kids. They took lands and they kept those lands because the people preferred their keeping it then the ones from before.
@@angryyoungman66 remember all the jews that had to leave europe to escape church's persecution? The ottomans gave them refuge...Had it been not for the generosity of the ottomans,all of balkan would speak turkish and say azan today.
NUEVO HEMRES “Being a Turk is hard you fight against the world. Not being a Turk is harder , you fight against the Turks”
It is not nessecary to search for New lands, when you already have control of trading with East.
Makes sense.
Unknow to them the new trade routes made the old ones less important
@@El-Silver its not less important, its still very important. But the ottoman empire was a hostile power for the christian kingdoms of europe, so they instead chose the other routes which are significantly longer, but tax free.
Yep, back in the day it just looked like a risky investment.
Yes Exactly, Europeans who could not control the trade routes were looking for another way to go to India. Meanwhile, they accidentally discovered America.
Ottomans🇹🇷: we want to see the atlantic ocean.
Morocco🇲🇦: go see it in national geographic, its so beautiful.
@@revivalist355 We defendend ourselves, we fought just like the mamluks, the persians did. The only difference between us and theme, that we won, and the fell on the ottoman colonization. The ottomans imposed taxes on every people they colonize, like they were khawarij.
We saw it already for centuries you french dog research 1576
Because to the East, they had the Persians as their enemies, to the South, the Arabs, the Europeans to the West, and the Russians to the North.
more like, they kept trying to invade europe, not the other way around, ldiot weeb
@@darkalan1562 Ok, person on the internet who knows more than me.
@@killme2675 ok, creepy weeb
@@killme2675 ok, muslim loving weeb
@@darkalan1562 I'm an ex Muslim though...
So, Venize had a monopoly to buy things from Mamluks who had also a monopoly? No wonder spices were expensive as hell at the time, double monopoloy plus the transport fees XD
Everyone needs money my brother
@@default8274 It's not a judgement or a critique ;)
@@krankarvolund7771 i know
Then British came and took it with five finger discount
@@order_truth_involvement6135 Trade nodes are in EU IV no? ^^
“He who controls the spice, controls the universe “
The spice must flow
What happened if He is a She
@@fathfez7991 controlling women is first step in becoming a civilization. All over the world it's same
well, Indonesia have spice.
Ah, I see you're a man of culture as well.
i read history a lot and i think i am capable of analyzing it in modest level.
So as a turkish person i can tell that this video is the most accurate and precise source to suggest to people even in turkey...congrats my friends, following you since 2017... love u :)
Your history ia far greater than most people know.
@@JRobbySh not really. turkish history isnt nearly as old or as “great” as other nations
@@hayots_lernashkharh what do you mean by that? Don't get that in a negativ way i'm just curious.
@@hayots_lernashkharh Check out this clown. Nobody said anything about other nations/civilizations. Just a statement that it is great, which it is.
@@hayots_lernashkharh why are you mad
And why isn't it great
Just wanted to say how high-quality this channel is!
it is perhaps worth mentioning, from a historian's perspective, that the americas were less profitable than india and china until the 20th century. this is usually overseen, if you are not an academic historian, or familiar with economics. although spain became rich thanks to the silver mines of the americas, it was still inferior to both india and china until today. we, westerners, often overestimate the wealth of the americas, although it should be clear that the heavily populated and developed empires of south and east asia, especially the indian sub continent and china, were the number 1 and 2 wealthiest economies until 1850 for good reasons. yes, great britain became the world's biggest economical power only after it took large portions of india, and after it defeated china, and then won in the second industrial revolution (around 1850).
Yes, it was super unnecessary for the Ottomans because they had everything back then.
wow!
@@celdur4635 the gold and silver only led to inflation or as the casus belli of Opium War had shown, just unsustainable commodity compared to the wealth and bulk of Asian industry products.
Think about how tough would it be to even get some silver and gold from the Americas back even if they succeeded, they would still face raids and attacks against the Spanish, they would have their colonies constantly under threat by the Spanish, and the Portuguese, I mean sooner or later it would be knocked out of the game no?
are you really sure?. There were many products from the americas that replaced indian and china products some were even of higher quality and cheaper. England was big because of India and china? Yes maybe but not mainly for the products of those places. As far as I remember England mayor economy income came in the form of manufactured objects being clothes one of the most profitable thing they exported everywhere. They not only sell their clothes to Europe but they sell it to all of their colonies and non colonies, the same with tea and else.
Ottomans: We control the spice routes!
Europeans: We got cocaine!
hahaha ^^
China: We got opium!
Still China: Wait shi-
😀😀😀 We got cocaine.
And this is how *Crab Rave™* began.
Gold = Cocaine, apparently
Excellent choice of background music.
I see there are people with insider k knowledge on the OE.
Thanks and keep up the good work!
Thanks for teaching everybody man!!! It is appreciated!!!
The only thing of Turkish origin that colonized Latin America was his TV series
And its immigrants. There's a bunch of Arabs in Latin America. Carlos Slim "from Mexico" is the fifth-richest person in the world. Nayib Bukele is the President of El Salvador. And Shakira's family is from Lebanon.
@Ben Ova Vast majority of immigrants from the Ottoman Empire in Latin America are Arabs. They are mostly Lebanese and Palestinian Christians, who are Arab, such as the Maronites.
@@Kubrab55 Fool yourself, the Ottoman is mostly Turkish. Not even a small minority of Arabs in Turkey do not even now you can observe not only the Kurds as a minority nobody else
There is no such a thing as Turkish diaspora in Latin America. All of them are christians of ottoman empire. Mostly levantines but also Armenians.
Samsunlu 55 It‘s false to say that today the majority of turkish people just have middle eastern roots. There are also greek roots. Generally considered, there is a proper mixing.
Too good. Very clear and good explanation. I love history and especially your videos they are beautifully designed and just too interesting.
Magnificient video, I've never been able to find any sources on this topic in my University library, great video that you've made, wonderful visuals though
They only sought to destroy the Fountain of Youth, with help from a Scottish knight and a pirate
Ah, another man of culture!
And accidentaly, the scottish knight, out of curiousity, manage to drink it
and of course to fight against the circle
A ship has arrived from Malta!
AoE3 Legends
*Reads title*
Me: "They had Otto tings to do."
evil pun but good pun none the less
@@marcus4046 Tanks
They couldn't cross the Atlantic in their Ottomobile.
Get out
Haha
Thank you so much for uploading this video. It is helping me get through the pandemic!
I love all your videos.. very creative refreshing and I can even explain to my children about history using the videos. Straighforward and simple explanation
People tend to forget that creating a transocean empire was a remarkably difficult task and, contrary to the common belief, they consumed more resources than could be benefited from. France failed in creating a sustainable colony, England needed over a century and The Netherlands only created little more than commercial posts. The Otomans never had a realistic chance.
Interesting statement.
i wonder how space colonization will turn out
I think the French simply never bothered enough about America. Their main concern was always France's place in Western Europe, hence Napoleon's cavalier abandonment of Louisiana just so he could focus on Europe.
You make it sound as if it wasn't a good deal for the colonizers and they spent more wealth on the colonies than they extracted from them. That is a preposterous statement. Obviously not true, as it is not sane nor natural for humans to go against their self interest. You're also suggesting that it was a 'too difficult task' for the ottomans, even though the video clearly shows that it was difficult because of very specific reasons, not because they lacked the ability. Your comment is reeking of racism in many ways, against ottomans, against colonized people, and frankly, it's pathetic. It's obvious that the western europeans, due to their geographic advantage, got to colonize and that created the wealth and the success of their societies in the following centuries. Without the riches of faraway lands, who knows, they would probably all be colonized by Ottomans instead, as the eastern europe already had! It is truly chillingly pathetic and racist that you think of colonization as an 'accomplishment', a 'difficult task' the western europeans had undertaken and succeeded in. Why? Why would that be? Are they superior, smarter human beings? Cause that's clearly what you are trying to imply only you are too much of a coward to say it out directly. Truly pathetic. Hate your kind of racists. If you're going to be one, have the balls to be one openly .
@@dailybls cringe
I don't know who does your art and editing for these videos but they are becoming ridiculously high quality. They are almost as interesting to watch as the stories themselves! Kudos!
Agree, I thought they couldn't improve their quality more but they are improving their animations and overall quality every week
Thank you for the big answer to a question i have never asked.
Very interesting topic.
This is the way we make history videos too, short & sweet! We love this channel!
Ottomans were surrounded by predatory empires. Uk geography was a blessing.
Opens my eyes a bit. Were we on easy mode?
@Chat noir Explain me, biggest predator by what? Taking taxes? LOL
"Geography is destiny."
- Ibn khaldun
@Chat noir
Islam fights all religions.
So it was good ottoman empire broke.
@Booter Shooter you corward choping off peoples head reilgon of peace my ass.
Two things are missing in this video:
Columbus asked Ottoman Sultan Bayezid II for sponsorship to his project, which was declined. (However, i am informed that this story is fabricated later by Evliya Çelebi in 17th century)
Hayreddin Barbarossa suggested venturing to Americas, which the Grand Vizier Ibrahim Pasha declined, stating that "The Empire should focus on dominating the Mediterranean and Indian Ocean.
Thank you for your information
Yok lan öyle bir şey evliya çelebinin götünden uydurduğu bir hikaye o bayezid hikayesi :D ilber hocanın kendisi bile söyledi geçenlerde
@Emir Eser
Dumb decisions? The Americas were basically a goose chase after Indian riches.
The Ottomans HAD Indian riches and instead focused on controlling it
@Emir Eser Dumb decisions falan yok bu arada. İlk söylediği hiç olmamış bir hikaye ikincisi ise hayreddin istese bile hangi gemiyle gidicekler amerikaya? Kürekli kadırgalarla koca okyanusu aşması teknik olarak mümkün değil sanki ibrahim izin verse gidebileceklerdi :D Okyanusta gemi yüzdürmek tamamen farklı bir konu ve Osmanlı donanması bu konu hakkında bir tecrübeye sahip değildi hiçbir zamanda olamadı zaten. Portekiz gibi denizci ülkenin bile kıyıdan kıyıdan afrikanın burnuna ulaşması için kaç tane denizci öldü gitti bir sürü sefer yapıldı öyle geminin ucunu Amerikaya çevirince varmıyorsun oraya.
@Emir Eser not dumb, but unnecessary. First, why the hell you need to sponsor an enemy traveler?
second, Ottoman already controlling Indian sea and old trade routes, venturing Americas would be expensive and risky since Spain and Morocco are controlling the Gibraltar. Ottoman empire is too fragile for another expansion
Geographical disadvantages is the main reason behind all of this
Very very good quality...congratulations for this job 👍🏼
Many years ago during my first undergraduate polisci class, this was one of my biggest WTF questions.
I appreciate your channel!!!
And then we'll talk about why no Austrian Colonies...
Shame there's no James bizenette
Austrians had their own empire to colonize
@E Fig True, the Habsburg monarchy controlled both spain and Austria, but I dont think the many Austrians or broadly speaking citizens of the HRE would choose to move away from their home land.
I think they had colony in North Borneo
@@fritz404 you mean the philippines ?
Spain: "Never thought I would fight side by side with an islamite..."
Saadi Morocco: "What about fighting alonside someone who also hate the Ottomans?"
Spain: "Aye, I can do that..."
Word thise sayddi allied with spain aganist ottoman for the sake of interests so ottoman dont invade their country lol..both were scared from ottoman 😅
@Aq qoyunlu mapper That's what led to the Anglo-Moroccan alliance.
"Spain: "Never thought I would fight side by side with an islamite..."" They never said that in the first place. ;)
Morocco was in a pricurious situation in one side there is the inbeleivers in iberia which they were the rivals of the moroccan empires for centries , on the other side the enormous ottoman war machine in the Est was threathning moroccan independance . The saadi didnt ally themselves with spain but with portugal and were crushed in the battle of the three kings by the ottoman backed branch if the saadis
Lotr quote?
Love it. Never would have thought to ask this question.
Este canal es sencillamente excelente!
The 'Calif of California' would have been a cool title, but they would have called the place something else anyway.
Hahaha, we call it Kaliforniya.
California is actually derived from an arabic-spanish hybrid word and though the ottomans are Turks they used a lot of Arabic at that time so maybe could have stayed that way lol
Caliopornia sounds nice , Calif of Calipornia would be legendary
Los Angeles = Al-Malaikat?
@Liberty Constitution Legacy Ah yes, the Taqiyyalies of WMDs.
They didn’t colonize it because of today’s sponsor Raid: Shadow Legends
hahahaha XD
Explain
😂😂
@@MrLowrevia they didn't want the raid ads to be in their language
Believe or not, Muslims have only one actual goal " Just To Spread True Religion The Islam To All Humanity". Colonization is unknown to Them.
Don't know why the Turkish historians don't focus on this topic. Best video so far on this topic! Unfortunately the Ottoman Empire is very unknown to the Europeans although they changed the history remarkeble. Thanks you for introducing them!
A very thoughtful and well done video.
I've literally been waiting for somebody to make a video explaining exactly this topic for years, thanks so much you guys i love your channel! :D
i love how y'all used the ottoman national anthems in the background
That was not a national anthem, it’s a 19th century song titled “Üsküdara gideriken” (or “Katibim”). Ottomans did not have a national anthem as it wasn’t an empire based on nationalism. The concept of “national anthem” is very new in history.
@@boratokel9301 ottomans had anthem. check "mecidiye marşı"
MrHL5 No, “Mecidiye Marşı” is not a national anthem. It is, as in the name, a “marş”. Ottoman Empire was, as in the name, an (dynastic) empire, not a national entity, hence no national anthem. There are many “marş” pieces but regardless of their popularity at the time none of them was an official “national anthem”.
He use a civ VI music too. Arabia medieval theme, in the end
@@campbelldutch75 Jesus, peace be upon hım, is not the god. He is the messenger and the light to humankind sent by God, before Muhammed, peace be upon him. They both say the same thing. Love, forgive, don't kill, don't steal, basically don't be a jerk is the message. And you know what? You are being a jerk!
Than ending with the map on the table and the hand putting off the candle was great
WOW!!!
Nice history bro❤️
Ahh Suleiman. If he could go to America, the dollar rate wouldn't be like this right now.
atam neler diyorsunuz
True it would have been as low as the Turkish currency or the Saudi currency now and the world would have been more miserable
@@zecoprimalpride nothing to do with the world being miserable However the dollar wont be as much
Are you supposed to be impersonating someone significant my mate?
@@harisjutt69 who
This is by far the most eloquent historical and economics description of the monumental historical events in Europe and the Middle East in the 16th Century. Thank you.
Great video, that shows the importance of straits control which remains priority for superpowers to our modern day
quite good and objective video. thanks guys )
Shame that the great naval Battle of Diu, between the Portuguese and the Ottomans, wasn't even mentioned in this video. It would be awesome to see it covered in this channel one day.
They consider it to be sign of power of the Ottomans when in 1654 we lost the battle of Aceh in the other end of the world, however when a country with less than 1.5 million people like us created forts under their noses in Ormuz, Muscate, Socotra Island is considered irrelevant xD. Yet they didnt ever built forts in any atlantic island anytime nor in the western coast of Africa whatsoever.
K&G said they would do ottoman-portuguese wars sometime later.
They should cover when madeira was pillaged by the ottomans and the entire population was taken in slavery
Great video!
Thanks!
I liked how you used Ceddin Deden as a background song. Good video, keep up your great work! Also lots of love from Turkey.
Awesome video! I love watching your content when I wake up and any time I eat.
Did anyone else notice the East Indies theme at 12:40 from Anno 1404? I'm so glad you picked that, it's a great song and the perfect vibe for this part of the video.
Fun Fact, Jack Sparrow is inspired by the Ottoman Admiral Jack Ward (later Yusuf Reis). :)
Also there are Ottomans in few scenes in the Movie.
Not true
Jack Sparrow is inspired by various pirates in Caribbean including the infamous & flamboyant Jack Rackham a.k.a. "Calico Jack". While his characterizations and mannerism are inspired by Keith Richards from rock band Rolling Stones and Pepé Le Pew from cartoon Looney Tunes.
Jack Ward was only operating in Tunis or Mediterranean Sea, which clearly has different environment and warfare style than the Caribbean.
And some "foreign" looking pirate crews in Jack Sparrow's fleet can be interpreted as Indians. We can also see African and Asian-looking crews in some scenes.
@@Etendard1708 What I have said is %100 true. Muslim North Africans were calling Jack Ward "Asfur" which translates to "Sparrow". Jack Sparrow. 😉 because he was obsessed with Sparrows and he had so many pets. Research is good mate.
@@Etendard1708 Its inspired by Jack Ward, but of course in Carribean Style and Culture. HE CARRIES A CRESCENT MOON AND STAR EAR RING, which is also a symbol of Islam and that time the Ottoman Empire. 😉😊
As a Turkish guy myself I am curious about this subject. There are some theories about it. First Ottomans were a land Empire beacuse of their Central asian steppe origins. Seafaring traditions started by first Turkish admiral Çaka Bey but not continued after his murder by Seljuk Sultan. After that Barbarossa made Ottomans rulers of the Mediterrenean and built a strong navy but failed to persuade the İbrahim Pasha to sailing to the New world. Also the Janisseries were influential on Ottomans war policy and they insisted on conquering the Hungary and Vienna. But most importantly Ottomans had trade routes from İndia and China to İstanbul. They think it is too little to gain with going to such faraway lands. And it was not easy because of Spanish naval force on Gibraltar and Mediterrenean. Lastly Ottomans failed in İndian Ocean campains in Suleiman the Magnificents time beceause their ships were Kadırga not Galleons suited for voyaging the oceans. If you have any other ideas please let me now🙂
Let's be honest, they had they're hands full colonizing Egypt, Eastern Europe, and the Arabian Peninsula as well as being imperialistic in India, Indonesia, & Morocco. England, France, Spain, etc. didn't have their hands quite as full in the old world before they started their own efforts in colonialism & imperialism in The New World & Africa.
I say this empire to former empire of course; I'm fully aware of the USA's history of colonialism, imperialism, and its current neo-imperialist (hopefully future as well (What can I say, I bleed red, white, and blue & I'm not ready to had everything over to China yet.).) tendencies.
@@patrickblanchette4337
Dude what Ottoman's did wasn't colonising.
Colonising equals to exploiting but Ottoman Empire clearly never exploited.
For example taxes from Balkans they took were lower than the money they invested to there.
Their ideology was spreading islam.
So they only conquered but no exploiting.
Also this is one of the reasons of not going that far.
Not only because america is far but also because in the lands they are governing people weren't asimilated or so...
So it was difficult to rule.
While they were challenging hard with those problems no opportunity was left for other huge issues.
jason mcallister Who are you insulting? Did you mean to post this reply in another comment thread?
Muhammet Emin DİNÇER Would you say that expanding into the Balkans was the Ottoman’s version of Manifest Destiny? I mean, I could also say that America clearly wanted to spread freedom in South America, Iraq, and Vietnam, but regardless of whether that’s true or not, at the end of the day, we intervened in those places for our own benefits first and foremost (Economically, politically, religious, etc.). It’s what all empires do; it doesn’t make those nations mustache-twirling supervillains; just very human. I’m also not trying to knock the Ottomans down a peg; they were an interesting and cool empire (plus they invented military bands!🎶). I’m just saying that all empires expand to benefit themselves.
@@patrickblanchette4337 ofcourse there will be benefit from expanding the borders.
But can you say that USA made more investment (i mean for flourishing the country) than the money they got feom Iraq?
The archieves say that Ottoman invested for flourishing Balkans more than the revenue from those countries.
What do you understand from this?
More, when British, Spanish or the others invaded america there was a systematic slaughters against natives.
Can you show an evidence that Ottoman did any systematic slaughter against Balkans and others? Let me say: Never!
We know this from archieves and also from the demografik structure of the post Ottoman countries and their languages.
They are like never ruled by ottomans.
These show us that those people lived the same way in Ottoman rule as before.
Good research and narration buddy !
This was EXTREMELY informative, sheeesh
Really glad you mentioned Peter Frankopan's book. It is the most intricate, detailed piece of historical document/book I have read so far. It's almost comically detailed and he manages to set the full picture through extensive, but very intriguing descriptions. The author covers not only the immediate geographical regions of the the silk road, far from it, it is merely used symbolic and as an anchor point, the book ventures through internal politics, trade over the oceans, warfare, aristocratic attitudes, quotes on internal and foreign affairs and so much more. It is a book that covers the linking dots more or less all over the world.
Thank you for your time :)
Great Stuff!
Excelent explanation! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Welcom , I am from algeria and thanks for this nice vedio.
The Ottomans were fat and happy with their existing trade routes. They didn’t have any need to peruse alternate routes to Asia. Western Europe was hungry and had reasons to seek alternate trade routes.
Another reason was that they couldn't even expel the Portuguese from India, if they wanted they couldn't even do that they wouldn't be able to do something against Spain and Portugal in the New World.
@Ibrahim Somali They expelled the Portugese from encroaching further but they didn't manage to drive the portugese off from their trade routes and didn't break portugese naval supremacy
They were content trading with the indians in the east. But the golds and silvers from the americas slowly strangled the ottoman economy (due to inflation) which would eventually lead to their decline.
Leo Scarpe The people of Hungary recall this differently.
Leo Scarpe I only claim to speak on behalf of the people Hungarian people who spoke to me on the issue. I’m quite sure the people of Turkey see it differently. The victors usually do recall things differ fly than the victims.
Imagine Latino’s but they speak Turkish and have Turkish names 😂
Wow
ottomans didnt force other nations to change their language or religion so it would still stay gonzalez lol
😂😂😂
Sohrab The Socialist yea might be but first spanish colonized there thats why i said that .
Alexandros Var blood tax ? they needed soldiers and many christian families were happy that their kids will grow up in palaces . Lets talk in general . Look at the colonizations of england france and compare with ottomans you should be happy that u controlled by ottomans if you are still able to talk your language and practice your religion. I know you have butthurt you cant look from that perspective.
Very well made video!
🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻thnxs for this unbelievable magical work
Where history has been enfused with life.
As someone who loves history i am overwhelmed at the minute detailing, accuracy and perfect presentation
And not to forget unforgettable music corresponding exactly with place mentioned is pure genius
Every Ottoman episode is backed up with "Üsküdar'a Gider İken" and every time it is a home run, both in the terms of content and soundtrack. Keep up the good work. Suggest: while on topic of Ottomans, a couple of episodes are due for their decline
This feels tautological. The reason for the Iberian interest in the Americas was the Ottoman conquests in the East (which blocked access to the Indian ocean). How could the Ottomans be motivated to head West across the Atlantic if the motivation to do so was to arrive where they already were?
I think the debate was more, why didn't they at least attempt a smaller less expensive incursion into the new world and the reason was because it wasn't sustainable. They either went through Spain&Portugals backyard or they sailed all the way around Africa. As the video mentioned they also were experiencing a great many growing pains due to their expansion into Europe and Africa.
Exactly. They had discovered the world was round and they thought they could get to India by going around in the opposite direction and would arrive at the same place.
@@adrianalainez8499 They're separate continents. Saying they're the same continent is like saying Europe and Asia are the same continent.
@@adrianalainez8499 lol k
@@jonathanlondon4265 Depends on what country you're in.
Some recognize 4, others 8. Some have the Americas as one, or Eurasia as one, and others don't. Some (cough) don't even recognize Oceania.
Love the background music
great video!
The reason is a little something called the "straits of Gibraltar" :D
Neither the Spanish nor the Moroccans would let them pass
That is it, all in a nutshell.
Except Morrocans would let them pass considering that Ottomans are the Caliph and if thats not enough They are littearly neighboors so brute force is always an option
@@Val-ng2um The Moroccans would never let them pass ! The Turks tried to take over twice ... the north Africans also had quite a presence near Gibraltar constantly harassing Spain and Portugal but hated the Turks more for they saw their attack as a betrayal to the trust they put into them being both Muslims and all (read about it really fun subject)
@@denzelsmashsymptom4264 quite. The Morrocans were almost enemies of the Turks. They were more like rivals with the Spaniards and the Portuguese.
well they freaquently passed the strait. They just did it for raiding Christian lands.
I love this map design !
I just “discovered” this channel... that must mean it never existed before.. aside from the current “natives” or “viewers” that were here before, but obviously they didn’t really count. Now I can take knowledge of this “new land/channel” back to my “people/house”. Good news for all the previous inhabitants you technically exist now, and when I pass on this information to my heirs you will forever be known to begin existing today.
Great video. Just poking fun at how we still you this generalized term.
I like how Civ V and Civ Vi music are used
i find kings and generals to be the best unbiased & thorough source of information on ottoman history, a subject so delicate and complicated many history enthusiasts on this platform have failed while attempting to explain.
I love ceddin deden in the background
its actually "Üsküdar'a gider iken" ..not "ceddin deden" :)
@enes akhan No, it is ceddin deden mostly...
@@muratozdemir7729 ohh i thought he meant the last part
Pink Lemonade the song is only 100 years old...
@@anlyuksel2194 Turks ruled Arabs for more than 1000 years. Turkiye 💪🏼
love this channel from Bangladesh
This is the best channel
Great video, I have just one correction to do. Brazil was discovered by Pedro Alvares Cabral instead Columbus
Very nice animations and music so well used, that I enjoyed every minute of the documentary. You guys are getting better and better with every video. It is very nice to experience this development, while learning so much in the meantime. Keep up the astonishingly great work, K&G.
I love your videos
Love the use of civilization music near the end
History matters and Especially James Bizzanet would be outraged that kings and generals did a video on the same topic they did a video on quite a while ago
I think SPINNING THREE PLATES is the one you should fear.
What a man of culture
Party boyko
Lol, compared to most communities on UA-cam, the history/grand strategy game community is pretty endearing and actually pleasant.
We are running out of topics in this network of history-related creators. I do not know how many versions of Caesar's sieges or Byzantine-Sassanid tribulations I have already watched.
I’m so early the Northman had just arrived in Vineland
I’m so early Istanbul is still called Constantinople
@@TurquazCannabiz I'm so early Constantinople is still called Byzantium
@@btsnake Byzantium is the term called by the HRE. Eastern Roman Empire is the correct naming.
Basil Syed I am so early, I was with the founder of Byzantium colonist
Thank you for all your hard work. See Utube is not useless
Esse canal é excelente. Pena que muitos vídeos ainda não tem legenda em português. Mesmo assim assisto pelo menos em espanhol. 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
The maps in this episode are the best to date. I love maps to an unhealthy degree. I need help. I need map rehab. I’m a map addict. Who needs pornography when you have geography? Mmmm maps.
ahah exactly the same, looking at maps for hours and still desire to have and look at more more maps
Me too
As a Turk , I would like to make references to a modern scholar from Turkey, Emrah Safa Gürkan, who is studying mediterranean naval history. According to him, in addition to all other factors you mentioned, ottoman navy was not able to navigate in high seas, let alone competing with spanish and portugese. The problem is that ottoman ships were limited to galleys whose main source of propulsion was human effort (rowing). These galleys were also very low and not able to store high amounts of supplies. These ships were appropriate for mediterranean where sailors could land at various stops and find new supplies for the galley slaves and for the crew. The lack of galleons in the fleet was also the main reason why ottomans lost the battle of Lepanto because the galleys were not able to board the enemy galleons.
Another reason was that ottomans lacked the knowledge about navigating in high seas. They simply had no developed maps and experienced sailors. Although you have Piri Reis as an example for ottoman carthography, we should remember that he was later executed by the order of Sultan Sulemain.
Apart from issues of technology and knowledge, the scholar emphasizes that the fact that ottomans had no extra population to send to establish colonies. If they had, they would have used the land they had in africa and middle east to grow the products colonial powers produced in their colonies like sugar, tobacco, cotton, coffee etc.
Interesting, I would have assumed they had a higher population density than the spanish for example or the english
@@SaidMetiche-qy9hb They did have a much bigger population but with huge stretches of land under control where get the sparred population. Unlike Portuguese with overpopulated cities they just could keep sending men ...
If they were limited to using galleys, how did they dominate the Indian Ocean? The Indian Ocean was way too turbulent and large for galleys to be effective. Pretty sure their navy had diversified by then.
Whether piri reis was executed or not, his map was intact and quite ahead of the time in terms of cartography. It mysteriously had access to information no other European monarch did at the time.
The Ottomans had a solid manpower base by the time of Suleiman as is evident by the huge levies he could muster even for island campaigns
@@RexGalilae yes, navigating in the indian ocean is hard (as portuguese First did It by using islamic captive navigators) but you can use the montions and Go next to the shore. It is not diminishing to the ottomans, Just another kind of navigation to Cross the atlantic
@MrMtube87 Well it did not happen then, but I feel like it is happening now with no colonization needed Islam is the fastest growing religion ever ...
Europe is literaly getting overun and they allowed it, soon it will happen to America too !
I recently finished The Silk Roads by Peter Frankopan and it was incredible! A crash course of central Asia history
nicely presented. always love the content here. unrelated question though. what's the music playing in the background? sounds pleasant
So the only question that remains is, why didn't the Ottomans colonize Australia?
The emus man... the fucking emus.
The scourge of mankind
And the military and musical prowess of Rolf Harris were important too.
@@jax2728 They landed janissaries, saw the emus, and noped the fuck outta there haha I like this version :)
Because their enemy, the Mamluks, got there first.
Nobody:
Kings and Generals: Why the Aztecs never conquered Sub Sahara Africa.
pickledbushman actually this is a big question (f*** Selim the second)
look Pan Turks are part of main sponsers of K&Gs
Reza Pouya lol
*Why the Aztecs never conquered Sub Saharan Africa?
*reconquered
civ 6 music, nice touch ^^
I always had this question but was never curious enough to search about it
I don't exactly know why, but every videos about the Ottomans with these traditional like music and things seems and sounds so calming.
Battle of Diu: victory of the Portuguese naval, heralded the end of the old trading giants and led to centuries of European naval and trade dominance, that shaped the modern world.
Everything has an End my friend, would not be surprised to see those Arabs kicking back in some centuries from now !
That is why we should never underestimate an enemy even during their time of despair ...
@@denzelsmashsymptom4264 Turks arent Arabs though. They actually ruled the arabs.
But true. But at this age, it was the Portuguese and the Spanish who opened alternatives and the gates for the European domination of the world. The portuguese are so underrated at this period, they had huge wins so far away from home against Asians and even Europeans, in a battle they even defeated Turkish, Venician and Indian forces.
but they were driven out of the Red Sea and Aden
That battle was made by an angry father that wanted to avenge the son death, ignored the Portuguese king orders
@عبد الرحمان بن محمد العامري nice cherry picking on wikipedia, mate
Good job
it's 3 AM, and I can't sleep, so i opened the youtube app, i see this as vid as recommended, sleep has to wait now :)
Actually the ottomans did try venture into the new world, and we're in fact aided by a renegade contingent of Maltese hospitaller knights and Inca prisoners. They were commanded by Sahin 'the falcon' to stop the secret society known as the 'circle of ossus' and successfully defeated them by destroying the fountain of youth. There's a great interactive documentary about it called 'Age of Empires III'
I was just play that ... i forgot about that campaign
Not colombus found the America land ITS the Muslim 5 century before colombus
Aoe 3 wars of liberty is also awesome
@@gursimarsingh5505 agreed. I hope they add the Sikh confederacy
@@zubersingh yes. I also hope. A modder has already made sikh confederacy but it is a mod that we have to install. I hope they do some changes and add the mod( mod means modification) in aoe3 wars of liberty.
"Why did the Ottomans never colonize the Americas?"
Try shipping thousands of colonists, and their supplies, *through the Spanish-controlled Strait of Gibraltar.*
Through Egypt you mean and then through the bab al mandeb down the swahili coast to south Africa
Colonize that and booms straight to southern region of the Americas (argentina, Uruguay, south chile)
Expand north
Or around Africa, or across the pacific :)
@@adrianbundy3249 @Yuri Tarded Problem with those plans would be that all of these areas were already controlled by the Portugese Navy and it would have been easier for the ottomans to sail straight through the Strait of Gibraltar than to sail through the portugese armada
@@JasonDoe1000 It was a joke, I didn't think it was feasible for them. Hence the :) when agreeing with the disagreement with the Ottoman chances.
But no, I do disagree with the thing being hardest with the other routes being having to go against the Portuguese, vs Gilbratar. No, they probably would have had to contend with both, in any eventuality. As it was, their issue was needing to upgrade to having a better navy, with better ships, which they didn't have. If they did, then they could confront them in either ocean, but then the biggest factor would have been the distance and logistics of such voyages to places like the new world, via the African or Indian ocean channels, where they simply weren't there at that time. And needing an entirely new class of boats from their navy to be able to do it. If they could get through the straights, it at least would have been a LITTLE more economical. That is taking the military angle out of it; but as it was, it simply wasn't feasible.
@@JasonDoe1000 ottomans were already at war with the portuguese in the horn of africa
There lack of care for expanding is what made suleiman give up the war effort
Ironically they defeated the portuguese and even took back the coastal cities of pate, lamu and Mombasa
There were alot of muslims in the horn of Africa and swahili coast
Yet there lack of care for expanding into the region is their problem
Hey even helped somalis defeat and take over 3/4 of ethiopian highlands aswell as defeat the Portuguese
If they wanted to that route would have been possible for them
Portugal swiftly took back the swahili coast after sending for reinforcements from india
Great video! I was pleasantly surprised when the Sid Meier’s Civilization soundtrack kicked in!
sorry I just couldn't think once you started playing the ottoman medieval civ 6 theme lol so iconic.