It all depends on the genetic health of the parents. Like people to unhealthy course on more likely to produce unhealthy youngsters were asked to fit and healthy animals are likely to produce puppies which are themselves healthy and will live long lives. Just being a half sibling is a relatively minor factor but something you do have to take into account when you are reading animals from the same gene pool - as you are with pedigree dogs.
And there are taboos about close inbreeding in most human societies (although cousin to cousin over several generation is not uncommon) but these are totally ignored in the animal kingdom- by the animals!
I think that what you say has been true - certainly until ten years ago - but things are changing fast. You only have to see the improvement in Chows to realise how quickly these problems can be resolved given the will. Rome and day come to mind. Why is it that so many people demand and instant solution and, if they cannot get think that banning it is the only answer - patience is the virtue we need here - and understanding
Dogs do not die of inbreeding. In fact, very few dogs have conditions brought about by inbreeding from which they die. This is not to suggest that having a dog which is ill or disabled is not heartbreaking or that there is not a problem with irresponsible selective breeding - there is. However, by definition, dogs with a genetic disease will probably not be from responsible breeders.
What you say is not wrong but it does not tell the whole story. Well managed and thoughtful selective breeding has provided us with more meat, and more eggs, milk and wool than nature could ever provide. It has also resulted, generally, in excellent, healthy pedigree dogs . There are problems it is true - but it is selective breeding which will solve them Do no condemn out of hand - it betrays narrow mindedness
ok guys get you facts straight.... line breeding that is monitored and controlled by experienced people can be a very good thing and doesn't harm any offspring in fact.... when researched... in our breed, the lines that were line bred were actually "cleaner lines" with less health problems.... done badly line breeding can be a disaster but done well it can be beneficial ....
You are still wrong. It is much more complicated than you suggest. If an outside agency (human) is controlling matings and are aware of the possible outcomes and understand the genetic implications it is quite different to a random instinctive mating.
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It all depends on the genetic health of the parents. Like people to unhealthy course on more likely to produce unhealthy youngsters were asked to fit and healthy animals are likely to produce puppies which are themselves healthy and will live long lives. Just being a half sibling is a relatively minor factor but something you do have to take into account when you are reading animals from the same gene pool - as you are with pedigree dogs.
Helpful, thanks
Great information are you still doing uploads .Also I have a few questions that I would love for you to answer.
Pretty informative, thank you for sharing.
And there are taboos about close inbreeding in most human societies (although cousin to cousin over several generation is not uncommon) but these are totally ignored in the animal kingdom- by the animals!
I think that what you say has been true - certainly until ten years ago - but things are changing fast. You only have to see the improvement in Chows to realise how quickly these problems can be resolved given the will. Rome and day come to mind. Why is it that so many people demand and instant solution and, if they cannot get think that banning it is the only answer - patience is the virtue we need here - and understanding
Dogs do not die of inbreeding. In fact, very few dogs have conditions brought about by inbreeding from which they die. This is not to suggest that having a dog which is ill or disabled is not heartbreaking or that there is not a problem with irresponsible selective breeding - there is. However, by definition, dogs with a genetic disease will probably not be from responsible breeders.
So you agree with inbreeding? Would you do it yourself?
With a breed that is genetically healthy and have a conformation which is not extreme there would not normally be a problem
What you say is not wrong but it does not tell the whole story. Well managed and thoughtful selective breeding has provided us with more meat, and more eggs, milk and wool than nature could ever provide. It has also resulted, generally, in excellent, healthy pedigree dogs . There are problems it is true - but it is selective breeding which will solve them
Do no condemn out of hand - it betrays narrow mindedness
if you want to see inbreeding like youve never seen before study the gamebred pitbull terriers pedigree. the real performance bred ones.
Nothing wrong with boring if what yiou are saying is important - they are not synonymns
ok guys get you facts straight.... line breeding that is monitored and controlled by experienced people can be a very good thing and doesn't harm any offspring in fact.... when researched... in our breed, the lines that were line bred were actually "cleaner lines" with less health problems.... done badly line breeding can be a disaster but done well it can be beneficial ....
You are still wrong. It is much more complicated than you suggest. If an outside agency (human) is controlling matings and are aware of the possible outcomes and understand the genetic implications it is quite different to a random instinctive mating.
@MrMisanthrope1 what are you saying is this english
you're reading. Just share the link
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You are wrong on all counts. IT is much more complicated than you suggest.
Is the logic behind all this sounding stupid to anyone else?
It sounds stupid to stupid people