Well it IS originally a kids game Sakurai never imagined it would get this popular competitively Heck..the new kirby fighters game has a competitive community
Which is exactly how it should be, this is a fun party game not an ultra competitive esports fighting game yeah I’m obviously aware Smash has a competitive scene but smash is an extremely accesible and easy game to play compare to plenty other fighting games, specially the esports stars
I can’t find any of the episodes other than this and the one for ultimate newcomers, where can I find the others? Or are they just releasing these episodes out of order (as in not the order the games came out)
Honestly people need to subscribe to the Panda channel, they are so consistent with their content and they really surprise me sometimes Btw that was my brain Wadi, in case you were wondering
As an Ike main I know exactly what they are going to say and I've never been so upset by something I completely agree with. Though I will say he at least requires fundamentals to play but after that you can just do whatever you want for the most part even if some off your knives are very committal.
@@AzureAetherXx my switch broke for like 1 and a half years so when I got back from sm4sh ike to ult ike he genuinely felt like a baby bc in ult whiff punishing is hard and spacing doesnt matter
@@AzureAetherXx This is exactly why I picked up Ike, cause I play Palu and I like simple braindead characters. If you have good fundamentals you can play them and do well with little trouble. I respect people that play harder characters cause they put in a lot of effort but personally I just want to play the game and have fun so simple characters are best.
You guys should make this a podcast about competitive smash. It would be cool to see what these veterans have to say about tournament results and changes to the balance
As a rosa main i completely agree with this sometimes you gotta think twice in what action do you make, like: "do I keep luma?"or "should I throw luma?" and you always have to watch out on what the enemy does because one single hit could make you lose luma and by that lose a stock
I would agree ESAM was wrong when he said Tea isn't smart because that's not true. He's the only one who makes pac-man look galaxy brain. In other words: pac man is not galaxy brain, Tea is. ESAM was right any other and even sometimes Tea are only smashers campers it hurts yall, hypekids, or not that's a fact
@@danthony8681 Nah, people don't main the white haired anime guy, they main the white haired anime girl. Unless you mean Robin, the OTHER white haired anime guy, who people actually use the base male alt for.
Yeah they play zss and pikachu, literally the gods of frame data, speed, and hitboxes, and they slander tea? I swear if they put their characters in lumpy or galaxy ima scream.
@@ghanaria7996 well, brawl is next (if they continue like this) and ZSS is from brawl Marss on the chopping block. But we wont see ESAM get chewed out for a while lol
Robin has 5 Resources that he needs to manage at all times, a limited recovery, and item pressure and combos from used-up Tomes and Sword. That's beyond Fake Smart, a solid Lumpy Brain character. The only reasons why he wouldn't be PHD is because Robin's non-item projectiles are two really good projectiles, and Levin Attacks are arguably the best set of aerials and smash attacks in the entire game and are all mad stupid.
Yeah, i definitely feel like he should have been a tier higher. I think they forget that, besides Levin Sword, all the magic was resources. And you COULDNT EVEN SEE HOW MUCH RESOURCES YOU HAD LEFT! You had to keep track of that in your head unless you wanted something to run out at a terrible time! Then you use the discards to change your playstyle too.
Honestly, on paper he's more complex than he is in practice. You can just throw out whatever you want with him. The only thing you actually need to manage is wind for recovery, but unless you're offstage for the whole stock you don't need to worry about that 95% of the time. Honestly, the most complex thing about Robin is using his empty items in combat.
2:25 I’m pretty prideful about being a Koopaling solo main but damn Mars is actually so right about this fml I just do bowser jr things at random and then see if they get surprised by it
I actually thought Little Mac belonged in Fake Smart cause you have to be really good at recovering to play him and really good at not getting grabbed by DK
I definitely believe Pac Man should be PhD brain. You have to understand the fruit, the HP of the hydrant, and also how to use both recovery options as attacks...but that's just me.
I have been so hyped for this video since the first one, and I'm even more hyped for brawl. That was my game growing up and it has some of my favorite fighters introduced
Guess we will have to wait until Brawl Newcomers edition to hear Wadi talk about Mewtwo, Marrss talk about Zero Suit and 64 version for Esam to talk about Pikachu.
I find it interesting how Esam is complaining about frame data and advantage for pac when he literally plays Pikachu. Pac is the one who wrote the PH D.
I just love his complaining about tea when he literally describes himself better. “He just does what he wants and it works because his character is broken”
ESAM criticizing Tea for being a masher and abusing Pac-Man's frame data because he is broken. This is gold coming from the player that uses arguably the most broken character in the game. The irony is just too damn high.
DefenestrateYourself it might not be “ironic” by definition but it’s weird how lacking he is in self awareness when he says “he does what he wants and it works because his character is broken”
Nah man. Pac-Man is by far one of the most big brain characters to play in the game. Esam was salty that he got outplayed by Tea for simply being the better player. He also complained about Pac-Man's frame data when he literally mains Pikachu and Zero Suit Samus, and Marss just agrees with him. They put him in a lower tier out of salt when Pac-Man should have at least been a tier higher, and I don't even play Pac, it's just the truth.
I was ready to be tilted as a jr main until their description was completely accurate with the spreadsheet lol ... still, give my boy larry koopa a little more love
I usually don’t like when people try to goad me into subscribing but that made me laugh and I actually did to Panda and Wadi’s channel. AND HE LIKES LEMMY. Lemmy has always been the boy.
Looking for your favorite WiiU newcomer to get mad about? Here's the alphabetized timestamps for you!
1:14 - Bayonetta
1:42 - Bowser Jr.
3:13 - Cloud
6:58 - Corrin
9:19 - Duck Hunt
12:39 - Greninja
6:46 - Little Mac
8:01 - Lucina
11:36 - Mega Man
15:01 - Mii Brawler
3:58 - Mii Gunner
12:24 - Mii Swordfighter
16:11 - PAC-MAN
17:34 - Palutena
10:33 - Robin
8:11 - Rosalina
6:20 - Ryu
5:14 - Shulk
14:05 - Villager
13:10 - Wii Fit Trainer
Nice that you've already put it in the chapters/description this time lol
That Marss comment with “they all have peanut brains and are all allergic” is underrated as hell
FOUND YOU FAKER
@@andrewfirth9858 oh shit
look at my guy on the grind
If we were talking about players, have “peanut brain” wouldn’t be an insult at all 😂
Lumpy Brain or Galaxy Brain, the series where you slowly realize 75% of the cast of Ultimate needs the brain power of an eight year old to function.
Well it IS originally a kids game
Sakurai never imagined it would get this popular competitively
Heck..the new kirby fighters game has a competitive community
Why melee is better lol
Almost like it’s a children’s party game
Which is exactly how it should be, this is a fun party game not an ultra competitive esports fighting game
yeah I’m obviously aware Smash has a competitive scene but smash is an extremely accesible and easy game to play compare to plenty other fighting games, specially the esports stars
"Can't even tie his own shoes, that's why he's barefoot."
Damn.
Shoes are overrated.
Reject humanity, return to monke.
walking biped
@@TheMasterBlaze DK players in a nutshell😂
Esam: overrates everything
Marrs:underrates everything
Wadi: has to choose which ones right
Two r’s, Bud. Thank me later
Wadi is Goldilocks
I’m glad to see that this is a series
I can’t find any of the episodes other than this and the one for ultimate newcomers, where can I find the others? Or are they just releasing these episodes out of order (as in not the order the games came out)
@@eddiemarkhamdrums5676 It’s just starting but they are doing it.
@@eddiemarkhamdrums5676 i think this is the second video of making this tier list. At least this is the second vid i have seen.
@@ghanaria7996 it is the second. Ult newcomers was a little bit ago, and theyre going backwards so Wii U now, brawl yet to release
@@eddiemarkhamdrums5676 theyre still releasing them
Honestly people need to subscribe to the Panda channel, they are so consistent with their content and they really surprise me sometimes
Btw that was my brain Wadi, in case you were wondering
You're a hero
@@lollol9598 wait that's weird Canada spells it cheque
Yooooo, similar pfp's nice
Honestly they do, also the way they say subscribe make me laugh more than any others I love it
Fake ass comment
I can’t wait for brawl where Ike is going to be toddler brain
As an Ike main I know exactly what they are going to say and I've never been so upset by something I completely agree with. Though I will say he at least requires fundamentals to play but after that you can just do whatever you want for the most part even if some off your knives are very committal.
@@AzureAetherXx my switch broke for like 1 and a half years so when I got back from sm4sh ike to ult ike he genuinely felt like a baby bc in ult whiff punishing is hard and spacing doesnt matter
@@AzureAetherXx This is exactly why I picked up Ike, cause I play Palu and I like simple braindead characters. If you have good fundamentals you can play them and do well with little trouble. I respect people that play harder characters cause they put in a lot of effort but personally I just want to play the game and have fun so simple characters are best.
You guys should make this a podcast about competitive smash. It would be cool to see what these veterans have to say about tournament results and changes to the balance
The occasional guest would be sick as well
The issue is that there isnt too much to talk about until IRLs start again or big stuff happens
“I can see your brain out the damn window”
*Me living in another continent:*
That megaman in the thumbnail is me when I take 3 vitamins gummies instead of 2
I love the face Marss made when Wadi agreed with him about Mega Man
Tea has a galaxy brain. Get outta town ESAM!
As a rosa main i completely agree with this sometimes you gotta think twice in what action do you make, like: "do I keep luma?"or "should I throw luma?" and you always have to watch out on what the enemy does because one single hit could make you lose luma and by that lose a stock
This may be my new favorite panda series! I hope they go thru the rest of the cast
16:53 Ironic coming from ESAM and especially when Tea is higher ranked than he is lmaooo
bruh
must be because of all the mashing lol
ESAM not recognising the irony of "he does what he wants and it works because *character* is broken" is fantastic
I would agree ESAM was wrong when he said Tea isn't smart because that's not true. He's the only one who makes pac-man look galaxy brain. In other words: pac man is not galaxy brain, Tea is. ESAM was right any other and even sometimes Tea are only smashers campers it hurts yall, hypekids, or not that's a fact
As a corrin main WE TAKE THOSE!!!!
Corrin mains, the most unexpectant Smash players lmao
Lmao people actually main the white haired anime guy
@@danthony8681 it's not about the anime it's about the water
@@danthony8681 Nah, people don't main the white haired anime guy, they main the white haired anime girl. Unless you mean Robin, the OTHER white haired anime guy, who people actually use the base male alt for.
@@JacobPDeIiNoNi Male Robin got some legit drip going. Corrin alts all kinda suck, I only use the 2nd and last alt cause the rest look weird.
11:36 I like how wadi agrees unironically and marss just has his look on his face afterward
I love seeing all three of their personalities interacting
Yeah they’re so different so it’s fun to see the clash
😤 I am the angry Bayo main. 😠 The angry Bayo main is me.
If you are a bayo main same my fellow witch
Oh no, we found one of the 6 of them
Dark Pit so forgotten that he didn't even get into the video, let alone get a splash screen when he got "revealed" 😔
damn...
Lmao, Esam got outplayed by Tea harder than he did by male pattern baldness!
The disrespect was actually insane
Marss face at 11:38 when wadi says mega man is lumpy made me laugh pretty good.
They agreed with each other so much more than they did with the previous video, the PGR wasn't even brought up, just ESAM getting fucked by Tea
Wadi is such a fire addition to panda
I lowkey could listen to Smash podcast with these three all day.
ROB,ZSS and Pika mains talk about other characters are poo brains is funny pt 2
@Andre Babani ehh I mean last video wadi saw a ROB mash down tilt and down air at ledge and said that ROB was slick soo...
ZSS is kinda hard tho. Pikachu takes too long to practice.
I mean all of those are pretty hard characters
The amount of Tea disrespect has me steaming
"Would you put Fox in lumpy brain?"
"No."
*Puts fox in galaxy brain*
esam hates gunner because gunner beats pikachu and doesnt want the agenda out there
ESAM slandering Tea because hes still salty is cash
Actually true lmao
Yeah they play zss and pikachu, literally the gods of frame data, speed, and hitboxes, and they slander tea? I swear if they put their characters in lumpy or galaxy ima scream.
@@ghanaria7996 well, brawl is next (if they continue like this) and ZSS is from brawl
Marss on the chopping block. But we wont see ESAM get chewed out for a while lol
Absolutely loving this series! It's so fun how they play off each other
That Fur Fighters BGM was not expected at all, but i LOVE that
How were Cloud and Bayo almost in the same tier!?!? I am OUTRAGED.
same bro
tier*
Bayo is so fucking hard versus any player who knows any amount of counterplay. But then again, wheeeee abk and at least 40% combos off of 1 hit.
Lumpy
@@DJinThaMatrix even then players who know how to sdi don't make combos too easy
@@DJinThaMatrix I mean yes, but then try to find the kill 😭
Bayo is somewhat lumpy UNTIL you have to eventually kill your opponent, which then takes a Galaxy brain lmao
A yeah three of my favorite you tubers uploading together. This is awesome.
When you do Brawl there better be a tier at the bottom specifically for Sonic
with rosa your constantly SPACING,get it
Can't wait for the next episode covering Brawl and the Glory of Ike.
8:02 Little Z is fuming right now.
ESAM has crippling PTeaSD
Be nice
You’re embarrassing the adults. Quiet now, sweetie
I personally am a Larry Koopa main. I’m also a Ludwig von Koopa fan.
Robin has 5 Resources that he needs to manage at all times, a limited recovery, and item pressure and combos from used-up Tomes and Sword.
That's beyond Fake Smart, a solid Lumpy Brain character.
The only reasons why he wouldn't be PHD is because Robin's non-item projectiles are two really good projectiles, and Levin Attacks are arguably the best set of aerials and smash attacks in the entire game and are all mad stupid.
Yeah, i definitely feel like he should have been a tier higher. I think they forget that, besides Levin Sword, all the magic was resources. And you COULDNT EVEN SEE HOW MUCH RESOURCES YOU HAD LEFT! You had to keep track of that in your head unless you wanted something to run out at a terrible time! Then you use the discards to change your playstyle too.
Yeah i feel like robin should've been Lumpy as well, they kinda did them dirty
i played robin for like 6 months and got decent results with him, character is mad easy bro
@@Jay-qc9lj whos ur main
Honestly, on paper he's more complex than he is in practice. You can just throw out whatever you want with him. The only thing you actually need to manage is wind for recovery, but unless you're offstage for the whole stock you don't need to worry about that 95% of the time. Honestly, the most complex thing about Robin is using his empty items in combat.
Can’t wait for Roy to be placed in *jab forward smash* when melee comes around
Ngl Esam saying Tea is just a masher is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard a smash player say.
Waiting for that one person like"WhErES dArK pIt"
2:25 I’m pretty prideful about being a Koopaling solo main but damn Mars is actually so right about this fml I just do bowser jr things at random and then see if they get surprised by it
How are y'all giving respect to Raito and NOT giving Tea the same respect. If you watched him win Kagaribi recently you know that's messed up
What a lovely surprise hearing the New Quack City theme, props to the editor.
I love the moment where you can see WaDi think about counter parries for the first time in his life.
I guess you could say you need a Megamind to play Mega Man.
watching these 3 makes me cry of happiness every time thank you panda
Marss is still salty that he lost to Kome. Shulk is PHD required.
I actually thought Little Mac belonged in Fake Smart cause you have to be really good at recovering to play him and really good at not getting grabbed by DK
All the Fake Smart Macs switch to Roy
@@seanhogan9196 TRUE
Me a Mega man main: thanks for the compliment! Goes to play him and spams U-air
I definitely believe Pac Man should be PhD brain. You have to understand the fruit, the HP of the hydrant, and also how to use both recovery options as attacks...but that's just me.
Look at what they did to my boy robin
I have been so hyped for this video since the first one, and I'm even more hyped for brawl. That was my game growing up and it has some of my favorite fighters introduced
I agree. Corrin is indeed fake smart. Our options are monke, but we have to think about how we hit our monke options.
12:39 Apolotion is typing...
Is it bad that Marss saying "The only difference between good and bad Greninjas is that they read air dodges" made my Greninja better?
Thank fuck someone said it-
Everyone in comments will say 'dsmn psc man players be jumbo brain!!?' when they're the goofiest gremlins you'll ever meet
Wadi gets it, Lemmy is the best koopaling
11:40 lmaoooo marss wasn’t ready to get a vouch
Guess we will have to wait until Brawl Newcomers edition to hear Wadi talk about Mewtwo, Marrss talk about Zero Suit and 64 version for Esam to talk about Pikachu.
Wadi is my new favorite member. Lemmy is the best koopaling
I agree with marss's robin statement, Arcfire yells jump and levin aireals yell shield, it's free conditioning if you're a decent player
I find it interesting how Esam is complaining about frame data and advantage for pac when he literally plays Pikachu. Pac is the one who wrote the PH D.
I just love his complaining about tea when he literally describes himself better. “He just does what he wants and it works because his character is broken”
6:15 Shulk can never "get away with doing whatever", lol
Steve needs the biggest brains
It takes more brain power to spam projectiles then it does to do incredibly precise combos that very easily be messed up.
ESAM criticizing Tea for being a masher and abusing Pac-Man's frame data because he is broken. This is gold coming from the player that uses arguably the most broken character in the game. The irony is just too damn high.
Is it ironic? He can identify similar behavior between himself and others. Looks like you learned irony from Alanis Morissette
DefenestrateYourself it might not be “ironic” by definition but it’s weird how lacking he is in self awareness when he says “he does what he wants and it works because his character is broken”
1:57 ahh yes, a man of taste as well.
As a Pac-Main I think that's a fair assessment of my playstyle and at least I'm willing to admit it
Nah man. Pac-Man is by far one of the most big brain characters to play in the game. Esam was salty that he got outplayed by Tea for simply being the better player. He also complained about Pac-Man's frame data when he literally mains Pikachu and Zero Suit Samus, and Marss just agrees with him. They put him in a lower tier out of salt when Pac-Man should have at least been a tier higher, and I don't even play Pac, it's just the truth.
Wadi says there are 17 newcomers in Smash 4
There's 20 time stamps
And they also forgot Dark Pit
*remembers mega man custom moves - shadow blade, tornado hold, etc)
I was ready to be tilted as a jr main until their description was completely accurate with the spreadsheet lol
...
still, give my boy larry koopa a little more love
When your main is called fake smart. Sad bayonetta main noises
same lmao
I, a Greninja main, feel your pain
4:22 WaDi knows to not deal with the devil
Panda makes my day better... Thank you from the bottom of my heart.
Wadi and Marss are so wholesome. We just needed Plup or little z for a perfecta trifecta.
Having your list and pandas align perfectly is so cathartic. All pacman matches are frustratingly slow chaos I swear
I usually don’t like when people try to goad me into subscribing but that made me laugh and I actually did to Panda and Wadi’s channel.
AND HE LIKES LEMMY. Lemmy has always been the boy.
DUUUUUUDE! THE SKULLGIRLS OST AT THE START! YAAAAAS!
Thank you very much
Did y'all forget it's a game more geared to kids?
4:11 *Marss putting little mac in poo brain*
Me: *Remembers all the times peanut YT has beat marss*
“Would you put Fox in Lumpy Brain?”
“No”
So that didn’t age well.
That megaman is so cursed LOL
Edit: I also agree with poo brain. Back air and pin are FREE
You mean blessed, right?
@@PandaGlobal 🧐🧐🧐🧐🧐🧐
The hardest thing about corrin is wanting to play him
POV: WaDi is watching your brain
In defense of Cloud:
Have y’all tried recovering with this man?
Bruh Have you seen any doubles tournaments?
@@voltingmaster5458 Bruh have you bruh’ed?
11:08 that cool tho 😭
Can’t wait for the rest of the roster
oh thank god this is a series
The best Koopaling is Morton.
I just want to say that thumbnail is cursed. Thank you, I hate it :) (but also love it)
10:36 yessir my boi
Great list, but where tf is Dark pit?
I need one of these for brawl newcomers, melee newcomers and then 64 roster. These are sooooo good.
I give Wadi Respect Because Cuphead As A Mii Costume Reveal Made Me Cry Tears Of Joy